Gurfateh
Dear Members,
I'm realizing all threads and respective answers aim to discuss Sikhee in its own realm without any effort to make it plain for non-Sikhs from other cultural background which corresponds to almost 100% of mankind. I do believe Gurbani has the power to change lives and not only be a matter of discussions within any forum. First and foremost bravery in our age corresponds to be a skilled devote able to show people why Gurus' heritage are vital to enhance our life in all aspects. No weapons are necessary, only coherent testimony. For this reason kirpan could be very small, a pin in some cases. Of course I'm talking about places,cities and countries other than Punjab. It's a myth to think AKJ garments, no matter how they're beautiful, could be our daily clothes.
BK
Respected Sister,
Das does agrees to you comments.
Das is batised from Budhadal along with two more members of SPN and hope that more will join us.
In there at any point of time it is OK to remove any 5 Kakars(we consider Blue Keski as a Kakar).So in Samagams of budhadals,das wears Bana(which yourself are saying is dress of AKJ,while thier founder Singh Sahib Bhai Randheer Singh Ji got inspire to be dress up like us and keep Beebeck(will be explained below) and Nihungs also gave him respect for being from our linage).But unlike AKJ brethern Das sometime wears only one langot(a kind pantees,used in wresting).While he swims ,he also wears swining costume(with a head geard above blue Keski).
In us we have Five kuerhits which are to be safe guraded against.
1.Not to commit adultary ie to sleep with married lady with other person or prostitute.
2.Not to use Tobbaco at all and not be be addicted to any drug or alchohal.
3.Not to eat Halal meat.
4.Not to shave any body part.
5.Not to colour any hairs.
Outside this bebeick Rahit(more stricter code of conduct) is there in us also which is deto with AKJ but there are there option.
1.Not to keep beebeck at all.
2.Keep as much beeebeck as you could keep(as situation of evil era of Kaliyua Permits)
3.Keep the full Beebeck as it is done with AKJ.
Sprituality has nothing to do with beebeck but it is there to conserve our traditons an culture(nothing to do with Punjabis but with Sikhs as we have Beebeckis in Bihar and Deccan also).
Lastly as yourself say that when das went into Air Flight,he also kept a small kirpan in thread of his neck.
But after alighitng big Kirpan was worn.In India Kirpan is OK with some size in domestic flights while not OK in international flights the world over after 9/11.
But still when we talk of having kirpan in the size of pin,we need to understand that Kirpan is there to defend the weak.If we do not know its use then it is useless even if it is of 3 feets.So he should know how to use it and we should have the motivation to make use of it at appropirate time.
But still when we say up to the size of pin,there has been the tradition of martial arts of Muslims and Brahmins called Bankait and Bannaut respectivly and is dying.In Brahmins traditon a small ring was tied to to the Janeu and its sudden bullet like swing was known to give harm to the opponent(das himself is a marital artist with brown black belt in Karatedo and Tai Kuan do).So if we need to keep the pin size Kirpan,we either coudl develop our own martial art(like Jews ahve developed Krav Maga) or could learn the use of pin from Muslims and Brahmins.
Yet das is apprihensive that after making kirpan of a pin size,tommorow some can tell us to have smaller kes.As Kala Afghan Sahib also talks of Gyan Kharag.And one of his suppertor,who is also our member of SPN and runs an online magzine from US,also calls hair keeping Sikhs as orthodox.
In an interviews with Mr G.S.Lamba Maan Singh Nirankari hastold that some of our Gurus have also undergone shaving of Mundan.
Another referance givne here is from old text of Sikhs(das has forgottan the name but could be found from
www.amritworld.com 's subject of Sahijdhari.In that we are told that Sikhs from Brahmins and Khatri side(of Delhi) refused to belive that Tenth Master has stopped the Bhadani kriya(shaving the sons's head on fathers death).
Case was sent to local court and Guru sent message against the Khatris and Brahmins.
As per Anti hair Guru Granth Sahib Purists,this may mean that only after Tenth Master,did Sikhs start to keep hairs.
As after his going back to Sachkhand,Guruship is with Guru Granth Sahib,and keeping of hair as code is not in there.Das was givne a qoute by such fellow at some other forum.And what das replied is also givne.(Das did discuss this matter with missioary Amarjeet Singh Ji of Delhi).
ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਇਕ ਸਿਉ ਕੀਏ ਆਨ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
कबीर प्रीति इक सिउ कीए आन दुबिधा जाइ ॥
Kabīr parīṯ ik si­o kī­ė ān ḏubiḏẖā jā­ė.
Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart.
ਭਾਵੈ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਰੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਘਰਰਿ ਮੁਡਾਇ ॥੨੫॥
भावै लांबे केस करु भावै घररि मुडाइ ॥२५॥
Bẖāvai lāʼnbė kės kar bẖāvai gẖarar mudā­ė. ||25||
You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. ||25||
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Das replied.
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ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਸਭੁ ਸਉਪਿ ਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਮੰਨਿਐ ਪਾਈਐ ॥
तनु मनु धनु सभु सउपि गुर कउ हुकमि मंनिऐ पाईऐ ॥
Ŧan man ḏẖan sabẖ sa­up gur ka­o hukam mani­ai pā­ī­ai.
Surrender body, mind, wealth, and everything to the Guru; obey the Order of His Will, and you will find Him.
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So as Guru has body with 5 ks and our form and body should be of Guru so as that mark we wear 5ks. Form of Panth Guru of Panj Piare we have been givne 5 Ks as they also have been wearing it since 1699 AD.
In our dressing we have to follow the Guru Panth. Guru Granth Sahib purists have no answer to this as dress of Human has to copied by Human devotees who ahve been given the status of Guru Roop Sadh Sangat.There are good lots of contradiciton with Bani of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and present day Sikh life style.We have to understand the meaning of Bani in that context and our life style in the prsent context.Das will open a bani onto Sant Fareed Ji,which could be followed in some context and not universally and Guru Mahraj sometime put thier comments within the Bhagat Bani or Tenth master clarified it later.Akal Bless.
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