Sat Sri Akaal,
Focus of shabad
- Ek ONE ( ONENESS TRUTH / Everpresent root Energy Neither Born Nor Die )
- Akal Without Bondage of Time or Everlasting Without Origin or End
- purkh Doer Balancer In action Complete Wholesome
- Sabad WORD form in language
- Naam Realisation in Word Form / Aware / Able to imagine /
- Hukum Order in normal language/ Universal Order in spiritual terms
OUR Energy is in spirit which bring thought biochemistry speech and physical action to all
Its not for person specific its universal phenomenon for all animate and inanimate.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
WJKK WJKF
You are so right: “OUR Energy is in spirit which bring thought biochemistry speech and physical action to all”. In your earlier response you mentioned God as the “Root Energy” so you are essentially saying that God is the creator (and therefore doer) of everything.
Fortunately, I think every Sikh has learnt this at the outset of AGGS in Mool Manter that God is the Creator and therefore the Doer ( Karta Purkh)
So I wonder, are you suggesting that this is all we need to learn about Gurmat and leave aside what Gurbani strives to teach us in the following 1429 pages?
There may be a “thought biochemistry” injected by the spirit as you suggest but why our thoughts turn out to be good or bad; why we think something is good or bad – is it all relative?
Do I have control on my physical actions that you are alluding to? And then who is this “I” (i.e. “Who am I”)? How do emotions develop, why some of us are elated, narcissist or display intellectual arrogance when others are intellectually humble. What is mind and consciousness? What is life and death; is there life after death? There are thousands of questions which are outside the purview of science, since you are using science terms. You talked about "positive, negative and neutral" - is there any supporting reference from Gurbani to attest the existence these forms of energies/entities?.
Many of us with scientific ideation use scientific jargon to explain spirituality/ Gurmat. This raises the following question:
Should science be used to validate or supplement our understanding of Gurbani?
Perhaps the answer to the question seems to depend on the degree of caution one chooses to exercise in this approach. Undoubtedly, it is going to add a science-induced prejudicial layer (Manmat) to our approach to understanding gurbani depending on the degree of caution one exercises.
If one uses scientific training/background to reflect and interpret gurubani then one may stay within the domain of "Bibak Vichar". On the other hand, if one chooses scientific arguments to seek validation of Gurmat, then we are treading a confounding path -- and it is very problematic.
Science and scientific thought are confined to the physical reality bounded by time and space; Gurmat extends far beyond this bounded reality. Science has neither the tools nor the capacity (as yet) to validate, comprehend or conceptualize what exists beyond the physical reality (of three Gunus) that Gurbani often alludes to. If our arguments to understand Gurbani are based on ensuring that there is a supplementary support from Science then we may be treading a wrong path.
When we say that we should rely on Science to supplement our interpretation of Gurbani the question arises which science are we alluding to -- the Science that existed 500 hundred years ago or the one that exists today or the one which may emerge in the future.
Science and scientific thoughts are constantly changing with new discoveries that often refute the earlier scientific thinking and findings. Gurmat is immutable (Atal) and its message universal. (Aad Saach, Jugad Saach, Habi Saach). How can a constantly changing instrument provide a reliable information about something that is fixed?
If we relied on scientific reasoning which existed even a few decades ago before the validation of proposed Higg's phenomenon by the Large Hadron Collider, some among us, with overly scientific ideation, would have been challenging certain aspects of the Jupu ji Sahib's message.
Gurmat radiates message of equality, peace, love, compassion, "live and let live", and so on. On the other hand, the destructive power of Science and its potential to annihilate humanity are well known. With such drastically different foresights and potential outcomes, how can one imagine that their internal and inherent pathways to final outcomes can meaningfully inform each other?
"Mind" is central to Gurbani. Many of us do not know what "Mind" is but those among us who are truly Gurmukh have experiential knowledge, understanding and its insight. Science does not have a clue; at least there is no consensus among scientists on this concept -- Mind, Brain and Consciousness is an outstanding problem for decades.
Gurmat is path of diligent and thoughtful inquiry - not a conglomeration of random thoughts.
WJKK WJKF
