• Welcome to all New Sikh Philosophy Network Forums!
    Explore Sikh Sikhi Sikhism...
    Sign up Log in

Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale Ji Ever Get The Respect He Deserved As Sikh Martyr

Jul 30, 2004
1,744
88
world
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Gurfateh
It was Balbeer Punj of BJP and now Advani,who use unworhty words for Sant Ji.
It is condemable.
 
Apr 27, 2008
25
0
72
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

My statement was about the word 'shaheed' and you jumped to other conclusions. I know quite well the difference between Wahhabism and the plight for an independent Khalistan. Your viewpoint is from someone raised as a Sikh in a Punjabi cultural environment. Religious fundamentalists tend to be fanatical. Operation Blue Star was the encounter of Indira's corrupt government and methods which fostered a young man with high ideals (Bhindranwale) and a behavior without measuring consequences. A hard backlash was the natural reply.

I didn't say Jarnail Bhindranwale used OBL methods; I said combatants from both sides are called shaheedeen.
 
Dec 7, 2006
44
1
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Indira's corrupt government and methods which fostered a young man with high ideals (Bhindranwale) and a behavior without measuring consequences.

Dear B Kaur.

My view has always been that Sant Ji very carefully and skilfully thought through his actions and the possible consquences of them. I would be interested to why you form the directly opposite view?

It is important that we lay the blame for the aftermath of Bluestar at the right door, not the convenient one that the Media spin would have you believe.

You may be interested to read this from Dr Subramaniam Swami, Ex MP;

June 6, will be remembered as a landmark in modern Indian history. On that date, the indian armed forces took control of the Golden Temple complex after destroying the Akal Takht and killing Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. The nation, on the whole, expressed releif. A few of us, however, expressed sorrow and felt that Operation Bluestar, as the action was called, was horrible blunder which would aggravate the problem of "terrorism", not contain it. Since then, the problem has, indeed, been aggravated. New crusaders for the Sikhs have now surfaced.
To put the record straight, Ram Jethmalani - the new Galahad - was not one of those who had opposed Operation Bluestar. Today he may pose at a defender of the underdog, but on June 6, 1984, he expressed satisfaction with goverment's ation.

This is said not, of course, to defend the BJP in sacking Jethmalani. The BJP is wholly communal. As long as Jethmalani was defending Haji Mastaan, the alleged smuggler king, Varadarajan Mudaliar, Jaspal Singh (of the CIA espionage case), and the Sarda case murders in Pune, the BJP was at peace with its principles. But the moment Jethmalani decided to defend the two alleged comspirators in the murder of Mrs Gandhi, the BJP expressed great revulsion. This revulsion is due to the fact that the BJP is once again wooing the vote-bank in North India which laid the foundations for Pakistan. Besides, the BJP is now busy trying to make Khalistan inevitable. The forces behind this vote bank are actively trying to polarise Punjab. The BJP, thus, is aspiring to be the agent of the "silent terrorists" - the Hindu communalist' - Jethamalani is merely the fly in the ointment.
The Jethmalani issue is typical of the machinations that have created the present situation in Punjab. Various actors in the drama have indulged in posturing without regard for the consequences on their histrionics. First, there was Mrs Ghandi, who described the Akali Dal's 41 point economic and social demand charter as "secessionist" in a effort to win the communal Hindu vote. There was nothing separatist about these demands. Then came her son, Rajiv Ghandi, who maintained that the Anandpur Sahib Resolution was antinational. There was nothing unpatriotic in this resolution - if one cared to read it. He also raised the alarm on the Sikh's use of words like "quam" and phrases like "Raj Karega Khalsa" and on that basis denounced the whole community as Khalistanis - all by clever innuendos. "Quam" is no more unacceptable that the "desam" in Telugu Desam or "nadu" in Tamil Nadu. And "Raj Karega Khalsa" is roughly, the equivalent of "Satyameva Jayate". And yet Sikhs were made to feel traitors for using these words .
Arguing the counter-point on the Punjab issue, all discussions must ultimately zero in on Bhindranwale, about whom there is so much disinformation that this column is insufficient to remedy the situation. In fact, i am writing an account of the Punjab tragedy in the form of a book in which Bhindranwale figures objectively - warts and all. I hope, my book will inspire a future government to set up a special commission to find out the true story of what happened. My first hand knowledge of events in Punjab also lead me to say the following about Sant Bhindranwale.
He never advocated Khalistan even when the indian army laid seige to the Golden Temple.
He was a strict moralist, totally against liquor, drugs and promiscuity. Hence, i totally disbeleive any rumours about pregnant abducted women kept as his prisoners, which were only spread to malign him.
He was stance anti-communist, and had broken the hold of the Naxalities and pro-soviet communists on the youth of Punjab.

It was Bhindranwale's anti-communist stance that activated the Russians and the KGB lobby in Mrs Ghandi's camp to spread disinformation and thus discredit him. A few days before Operation Bluestar, Pravda wroted that Bhindranwale had a direct telephonic link with the CIA in Langley, Virginia, the headquarters of the agency. That was untrue, but leading dailies in New Delhi published wire service reproductions of that article. Who organised this negative media blitz?
A large number of the murders committed in Punjab brought swift condemnation from him, but these were never published. Such were the maneuvers of the goverments media mafia. In my presence, Bhindranwale had condemned the massacre in which Hindu's travelling in a bus were segregated and shot. He sent money to the affected Hindu families. But this was never published in any newspaper. When Dr V.N Tiwari, MP, was shot dead in his house in Chandigarh, Bhindranwale wrote to his wife expressing his sorrow and called the murder an act of cowardice.
But there was such as frenzy in the country at the time that no one was willing to listen. The government encouraged the rumours and disinformation. Even i, who never said anywhere that there were no arms in the Golden Temple, was quoted as having said so by Rajiv Ghandhi in the 1984 monsoon session of parliament. When i challanged him to produce just one news report from a reputable paper as proof, he was unable to do so. All this is part of the Lok Sabha proceedings which we can refer to and yet, from Kanyakumari to Kashmir, wherever i went, the statement that i had never made was quoted again and again to discredit whatever else i would say about Punjab. Who arranged this publicity? The same people who finally murdered Bhindranwale?
 

drkhalsa

SPNer
Sep 16, 2004
1,308
54
Re: Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale- TRUE SAINT SOLDIER

I really don't know. There are so many threads probably I posted my reply in the wrong place and others did the same...

You are alright !There is nothing wrong on your part dear . I was just mentioning this because of my personal experience
As I was born in The City of Amritsar and My memories of this issue goes back to time when I was just 4 years old in 1984 and till date people have diff view point about the case.
 
Jul 30, 2004
1,744
88
world
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Gurfateh
WJKK, WJKF

Sant Ji is FINALLY getting a modicum of the respect he deserved.

The unveiling of his picture in Harminder Sahib as an immortal shaheed is evidence of this.

The script below his picture is poignant and apt;

"The great Sikh General of the 20th Century, the 14th chief of the Damdami Taksal, Sant Giani Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, who along with numerous valiant Sikhs attained martyrdom on Wednesday, the 6th of June, 1984, fighting against the Indian Armed Forces for the honour and prestige of Sri Harmandar Sahib and Sri Akal Takht Sahib."

Sant Ji was the subject to a character assassination of a massive scale by the criminal Indian government and right wing, neo fascist, Hindu factions.

It is up to us to bring the truth about him into the mainstream.

Bhai Sahib Ji,

present Indian Govt. is pro left rather neo left.It is neo leftist in the grab of Sikhs who are opposing Sant Ji.When donkey in the hiding in hide of lion makes noise,donkey is recoganised.

Coming to hindu forces fighting the communists and more bigot then RSS and want to make India a Hindu Natioan.Das without any doubt wants to say consider Sant Ji as thier Hero and a role Model.

Sant Ji were never anti hindu,but were Anti to those guys,who wanted to drive the vedge be ween Sikhs and Hindus.Within his force there were good lot of Kharku,who were from hindu families and joined his movement.

Same congress,who at that time was supporting Narakdharis and Punjab kesari(Lala Jagat Naryan was made minster by congress).Has been supporting spokesman and Hari Rattan Yukta.

Bhai Rajkhalsa could give testomnay to it that class fellow of Sant Ji from DDT,with Six years in jail(for General Vaidya murder conspiracy) now Head Delhi unit of Rashtiya Sikh Sangat and he is motivating Hindu youth fed up from RSS's slow approach,trying to have thier own establishement,to be like Sant Ji.(in action and in in Faith).

Das had once himslef givien a speach to Hindu militants ,ie "to protect the word Ram in your name,you need to have surname Singh and to let India be free from threats each of you have to be like Sant Ji".Sant Ji are the legend.Kala Afghan Sahib were planted by Punjab Police with Sant Ji,but in Mana Wala episode,when Singhs came to know Kala Afghana Sahib's ture colour,he fled to Canada.(as told to das by Kanwar Ajeet Singh Ji).

attacks on babbers,Taksalis,Sant Singh ji Maskeen,Akal Takhat along side all Gurbanis are work of hidden enmies of us.
 
Dec 7, 2006
44
1
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Gurfateh

Das had once himslef givien a speach to Hindu militants ,ie "to protect the word Ram in your name,you need to have surname Singh and to let India be free from threats each of you have to be like Sant Ji".

Bhai Sahib,

Would be interested to learn of the militants reaction to the notion suggested.

As they regard Sikhism as being under their umberella they should not have a problem with this.
 

Admin

SPNer
Jun 1, 2004
6,689
5,244
SPN
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Admin Note : Two threads dedicated to Sant ji have been merged. Please be informed.
 

Gyani Jarnail Singh

Sawa lakh se EK larraoan
Mentor
Writer
SPNer
Jul 4, 2004
7,706
14,381
75
KUALA LUMPUR MALAYSIA
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Sister Brazilian kaur was caught in an unfortunate crossfire..misunderstanding.
She is absolutley right in saying that the word "Shaheed" is used widely. To the Alfatah Plaestinins, the Hammas Group etc all their fighters/bombers/suicide bombers /hijackers/ etc etc are all SHAHEEDS ( for their palestinian Cause) While to the Israelis they are all criminals..
To the British Bhagat Singh was a Criminal convicted in court of law and worthy of being hanged as one...to many Indians Today...Bhagat Singh is SHAHEED... it is no ones intention to EQUATE ALL THESE...
its just the Same word being used for all by their supporters. Sometimes many of us are too quick on the draw...and we shoot ourselves in the foot.

Regards
Gyani jarnail Singh
 
Apr 27, 2008
25
0
72
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

I acknowledge I have no elements to issue an opinion about Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. My local references were only from revolutionaries, communists who followed Che Chevara ideals (for whose who don't know Che Chevara he helped to expand Cuba revolution to Latin America). I'm politically very conservative and Brazilian politics is so corrupt I don't have stomach to talk about. I'd like to live in other country - I like USA - but immigration laws are almost impossible to be followed in full. Only religious ministers have a chance to get a permanent residency visa.
 
Jul 30, 2004
1,744
88
world
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Gurfateh
Bhai Sahib,

Would be interested to learn of the militants reaction to the notion suggested.

As they regard Sikhism as being under their umberella they should not have a problem with this.
most of them are illinformed about thier own faith so thier knowing about us something very remote.

Before das came to this point das did explain them things in thier own faith.Then das told that good things in them retained by us plus good lot of unpreceedented things to destroy unprcedednted evil unto mankind and strenghted the man kind.

It was surprising that even before das said these things many were interested to be Sikh and one even said that keeping uncut hair is actually thier own legacy.

But then there was a pause.where das should have sent them to be baptised.

In delhi Akalis were fighting.

Das could not belive missionaries for now as good lot of leftists have entered them ,with whom Hindu militants are fighting.

in DDT,Dhuma Ji fights with Baba Ram Singh Ji.

Life of AKJ is unfit for jungle living guirillas.

So das took one of them to one Budhadal Bunga.But there too we have drugs etc. not good for revloution.Das hopes that within year or tow with change in government at centre.Sikhs will have end of infighing in thier institution.And we will have new converts.Else also das will be getting permission of Baba Balbeer Singh ji to conduct the conversion by himself(with Panj Piaras living near Das).

Hindus has some points which das did clarfied.
1.Sikhs worship god Shiva

Das explined that our Shiva is one who is in all and odes not lives on the moutain.That should be your shiva as per your text.As per us the Nihung Shiva living on the mount Kaliash was first worshippe rof Sikh God Akal.
2. Jaats use to make one son as Sikh(they mistook it for Khatris).

Das explained that it was much later during Sikh rule that upper caste wanted to come near rulers that this thing happened else faith belongs to outcastes and tribals and they should be our leader.
3. we are made to defend hinduism.

hindu is nation specific thing and we are universal faith(Vedas have no wordl hindu for faith)We are made to defend weak and poor and empower them by making them have faiht in true God.We destroy the opprsor,if he/she does not surender to us.We have history to fight for Muslims also for thier just cause.

Even while we fight so called Islamic teror,Leftist ultra or west backed chirstian separtists.We do not have to have any sense of hatred towards any.

We will have to control those Hindu in our movement,who are racial(with superiorty complex of being from Aryan race)

meeting was held on 25/12/2007 at some location.

In future we should be ready to see the ralisation of Karani Nammah.

Only thing is to keep tab of idiots like one who run spokesman.Even if Sikhs do not keep tab on them,thier self distrcution phenomina is on.But yet we will have to have more true Sikh Missioary ,who are more interested to convert more human kind to faith then to condem the fellow Sikhs in public and let potential be dis enchanted.
Akal bless.
 
Apr 27, 2008
25
0
72
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

My ignorance: who is 'das' ? Can anybody rewrite the text above? It seems Vijaydeep Singh wrote in English thinking in other language. Sorry, I can't understand. Any volunteer?
 

spnadmin

1947-2014 (Archived)
SPNer
Jun 17, 2004
14,500
19,219
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Kaur ji

"Das" means servant or slave. It is not uncommon for people with an Indian background to refer to themselves in communication in the 3rd person, using the word "das." It signifies that the person is placing himself/herself in a humbled position before others. A matter of a personally chosen communication style.

Vijaydeep is a long-time member of the forum. He is known for his humor and his passion in writing about all kinds of Sikh issues, but in particular Gurbani and spiritual growing. As a person, he is an astute scholar and a humanitarian. After a while you will be able to understand him -- he says some very profound things.
 

Gyani Jarnail Singh

Sawa lakh se EK larraoan
Mentor
Writer
SPNer
Jul 4, 2004
7,706
14,381
75
KUALA LUMPUR MALAYSIA
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Definitely and precisely said aad ji. I have known Vijaydeep Singh on SPN as well as Tapoban for quite a few years now. We have a few disagreements on a few subjects...( ususal in the realm of Gurbani/dsm granth/gurmatt etc) but i respect him immensely (although he is half my age ). His wriitng style and language is "desi" ( not meant negativitely as he is indian after all just as i am but we have lived and used English differently..so...cant comment further !!)..but his heart is in the right place and his wriitngs command respect. Bhen ji Brazilain kaur Ji..just slowdown a bit and read his posts slowly..you will get the gist of what vijay is saying...He is surely an asset to SPN and will remain so...Guru Ji Kirpa karan.
Regards to all
Gyani jarnail Singh
 

drkhalsa

SPNer
Sep 16, 2004
1,308
54
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

Dear Brazillian Kaur Ji

I have tried to make changes to his writing to make it more easy to read .
Below is the edited text

Actually as I know Vijaydeep Singh , he is multitasker kind of man so has got pretty much thin time to do lot many of things so he write in hurry and hardly get time to amend it .





HERE HE ( VIJAYDEEP SINGH)IS MENTIONING ABOUT HIS MEETING WITH HINDU MILITANT IN DEC 2007


Most of them are illinformed about thier own faith ( ie Hinduism)so thier chances of knowing about us is something very remote.

Before das( Vijaydeep Singh) came to this point das did explain them things in thier own faith.Then das( Vijaydeep Singh) told that good things in them ( their Faikth ie. Hinduism)have been retained by us ( SIKHS )plus good lot of unpreceedented things to destroy unprcedednted evil unto mankind and Things to strenghted the man kind.

It was surprising that even before das ( Vijaydeep Singh)said these things many were interested to be sikh and one even said that keeping uncut hair is actually thier own legacy.

But then there was a pause.

Where das should have sent them to be baptised.??

In delhi Akalis were fighting.

Das could not belive missionaries for now as good lot of leftists ( Left Ploitical View) have entered them ,with whom Hindu militants are fighting.

In DDT( Damdmi Taksal ),Dhuma Ji( Leader of One Faction) fights with Baba Ram Singh Ji( Leader of other Parallel Faction)

Life of AKJ ( Akhand Kirtani Jatha)is unfit for jungle living guirillas.

So das took one of them to one Budhadal Bunga ( Nihang Faction).But there too we have drugs usage etc. so it does not seems good for revloution ( the work Sikh should be doing!).Das( Vijaydeep Singh) hopes that within year or two with change in government at centre ( India national Level ).Sikhs will have end of infighing in thier institution.And we will have new converts.Else also das( Vijaydeep Singh) will be getting permission of Baba Balbeer Singh ji ( Head od Major Nihang Faction )to conduct the conversion by himself(with Panj Piaras living near Das( Vijaydeep Singh)).

Hindus has some points which das( Vijaydeep Singh) did clarfied.


1.Sikhs worship god Shiva

Das explined that our Shiva is one who is in all and does not lives on the moutain.That should be your shiva as per your text.As per us the Nihung Shiva living on the mount Kaliash was first worshipper of sikh God Akal.

2. Jaats use to make one son as sikh(they mistook it for Khatris).

Das explained that it was much later during sikh rule that upper caste wanted to come near rulers that this thing happened ( the point two above) else faith ( SIKH ) belongs to outcastes and tribals and they should be our leader.

3. we are made to defend hinduism.

hindu is nation specific thing and we are universal faith(Vedas have no word hindu for faith)We are made to defend weak and poor and empower them by making them have faith in true God.We destroy the oppresor,if he/she does not surender to us.We have history to fight for Muslims also for thier just cause.

Even while we fight so called Islamic terror,Leftist ultra or west backed chirstian separtists.We do not have to have any sense of hatred towards any of them .

We will have to control those Hindu in our movement,who are racial(with superiorty complex of being from Aryan race) against the South Indians

meeting was held on 25/12/2007 at some location.

In future we should be ready to see the realisation of Karani Nammah.

Only thing is to keep tab of idiots like one who run spokesman ( Local Media Banner with Newspaper and Magzine).Even if Sikhs do not keep tab on them,thier self distruction phenomenon is already on.But yet we will have to have more true sikh Missionary ,who are more interested to convert more human kind to faith then to condem the fellow Sikhs in public and let potential be dis enchanted.

Akal bless
.



if there is need of further clarification feel free to ask

Jatinder Singh
 

ballym

SPNer
May 19, 2006
260
335
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

as a young boy I was highly impressed by Sant ji's words .
All this continued till finally 'terrorists' struck and killed my uncle . I felt so different and it was only then I first realised that the pain of death is the same for everybody.
I could identify more with the affected people and this was basically the reason for the end of terror in Punjab and not any Gill or Rebiero or Beant Singh.
There was no leadership for the Sikhs. I was like many other capable of following but not good enough to be a leader probably and hence the youth were lost which is partially the reason for the present state of Punjab.
Sant Jarnail Singh Ji was an excellent leader . In fact the reality is we are a scared lot. We know more than 50% of our population is 'Patit' as per the Rehatnama and the rest are also nonchalant. But how does it matter? If we only infuse the spirit of humanity in ourselves and incorporate truthful living as shown by Guru Granth Sahib Ji without having a face of Khalsa would that make us less of Sikhs? For sure being intolerant and insensitive to fellow human beings is much bigger a vice. And maybe this attitude will one day restore our pride and we stop talking big about our historical heroes and start following them in action.
And casteism, which the great Guru took out of us, will never leave us whatever we do. Because we have lost the essence of Sikhism.
We have definitely failed our Gurus. We are yet to learn to respect each other as human beings.
It is good that your childhood ideas changed later!
What KPS Gill did was to kill about one person in nearly everyfamily or khandan so that the same feeling you had also comes to each one. Gill may have done wrong but , other option is worse... all duplicate khalistanis dictating you!
Yes ,.. you r right about leadership needs but bhindranwale was not a great leader. he captured the opportunity. Everyone was scared of him.
I agree with the rest I quoted above for emphasis.
We do not even respect patits ... forget about Hindu, muslim, Christians.
 
May 24, 2008
546
887
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

IMHO , Bhindranwale was planted by Indira , Zial singh & agencies into Sikh mainstream to take revenge from Akalis for their unparralleled courage shown during emergency when the whole country did not have guts to oppose her .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emergency_(India)
The whole national mainstream media after the Emergency just crumbled in front of Indira & Congress . They were fed with doctored reports & news making Bhindranwale a national hero in 1980 onwards , slowly he was made more popular than anything Sikhs had known since Master Tara Singh . Many ex Naxalites joined his ranks , also ex-army officer General Subeg singh a veteran of 1971 Indo-Pak war joined him . The growth in power accompanied by Bhindranwale's moving into Guru nanak Niwas made all calculations of Akalis go awry .The agencies started meanwhile started murdering selective Hindus & also Sikhs , blaming it on gun totting Bhindranwale's boys who were supplied arms by the same agencies , who was busy gathering limelight running his court from Guru nanak Niwas & passing judgements , while Indira was preparing a fool proof case against him . He was being portrayed as a terrorist , a danger to India's unity by National mainstream media , just a few days before Operation Bluestar Rajeev Gandhi termed him as a Saint in newspaper interview . Then all the pre planned attack came about for which Indian security forces had been planning & training for more than a year & half in Chakrata in Doon valley.
IMHO Bhindranwale was a opportunist who tried to use Indira but he did not judge that Indira would go to any length to teach both him & Akalis a lesson , the other factor was the collective votes of Hindus & Muslims without annoying any of these communities , at the same time projecting herself as the saviour of India's unity & integrity . But the last three days of Bhindranwale washed all his misdeeds , when he & his boys fought with unparralleled grit & determination for upholding the sanctity of Darbar Sahib when he had all the chance , choice to escape to safety , thereby making him immortable in Sikh history . Any body interested in events of 1984 Bluestar & Nov 84 genocide kindlt read the book Kion Keete Visah by Narain Singh written in Feb 1985 , just after 1984 events , a complete independent , transparent account of atrocities commited on Sikhs pre-post 1947 . Any body interested kindly Pm your address & I'll do the needful .
 
Feb 19, 2007
494
888
75
Delhi India
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

There are some things which are beyond my limited comprehension. I will be grateful if someone could clear the cobwebs in my head.

  1. Did Bhindranwale seriously believe that he could fight the might of of the Indian state by being holed up in a few acres of Darbar Sahib?
  2. Surely he could not have been carried away and imagine himself of doing a repeat of Guru Gobind Singh jis battle at Chamkaur? Anybody can say that these two situations are not comparable.
  3. Did he not realise that Indira Gandhi was just giving him a long rope and wanted to fix him and simultaneously humiliate the Sikhs. Did not Bhindranwale neatly fall into her trap?
  4. When passengers were selectively being pulled out of buses and murdered in cold blood, why did not Bhindranwale condemn these acts? Is not killing of unarmed innocents of any faith, specifically against the teaching of our Gurus?
  5. Did not the entire Sikh leadership come out poorly in the whole sorry episode and common Sikhs subjected to entirely avoidable trauma and ridicule worldwide?
Nehru and Indra Gandhi harmed the Sikhs a lot but INMO the response of Sikh leadership was without any well thought of Strategy. This was unlike any of our Gurus who were extemely alert to the situations and their actions well thought out and planned
 
Aug 17, 2009
153
105
Re: Did Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale ji ever get the respect he deserved as sikh ma

His political views are not all agreeable, but let me tell you the things are not all clear due unavailability of unbiased accounts. History will never be unbiased.

For me i admire his love and zeal to a certain limit. His parchaar was excellent but again had a tint of naxalism in it in a certain way.

He would go from village to village and do amrit sanchaar, he would setup small groups armed to the teeth, they wouldnt allow any video parlours or wine shops in the area. The women were happy since after a long time the husbands were returning back home by dusk!

He had a dedicated following due to his winning the hearts. But everything was run on the base of gun power.There are two sides of a coin.The hand which holds the gun to protect may not always do what was supposed to be done !

How much control can one have when one is away from the location? the guys whom he had setup, had direct power and the Congress was also wooing him. h
 

❤️ CLICK HERE TO JOIN SPN MOBILE PLATFORM

Top