Redirected from this thread http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/9096-reincarnation.html#post132441 Narayanjot Kaur ji I agree ultimately when the Gurmukhi words are processed through our brain, what we come know and understand is from our own intellect and filters within that intellect. By keeping in mind historical context, knowledge of mankind in th 15th century, etc etc... by keeping in mind these variables, I think they will reduce those filters that tend to give a scientific spin to these texts. And even though, its our intellect that has determined the meaning, we will know that we are getting closer and closer to what it actually meant by them. We will get close to their essence. Um... that would be Dr. Singh with the Theory of Evolution. And have you forgotten about Project Naad? Their "Sikh Dharma, Science and Quantum Physics" pamphlet? We may not hear those exact words, but that is what is being implied. Narayanjot Ji, I am glad you mentioned this. Its not about limiting it, its about being honest. I have no problem with interpreting verses with a modern spin and with scientific integration BUT when these interpretations are muddled up with the original and are further credited to Guru Nanak and such... that is just dishonest - whether intentional or unintentional. I mean can we really applaud Guru Nanak for what he has done if we interpret his work to describe string theory? What will the upcoming generations think of this? I am saying that there is no need to muddle it in, in order to keep Guru Nanak's message relevant. They could be kept separate, while maintaining the authenticity of the historical interpretations, we could do modern interpretations as time changes. I am asking for some clarity as well here. IMO Sikhism is not really a religion. Religion is like the Abrahamic Religions. Sikhism is a tradition, like the other Eastern traditions: Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism. Just look at how religions were/are in India (excluding Islam)... IMO let's leave these ISMs to the west where they belong. Let's keep Sikhi as Sikhi. Sikhi is a unique tradition that made an attempt to integrate spiritual, social, political and martial practices in an attempt to get the society to progress. Spiritual practices are available in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. The others, social, political and martial, we find in history. Guru Sahibs building proper housing and villages, and setting up farm land. Amardas ji starting a langar tradition to enforce social unity through equality. Political stance was eventually taken up by Guru Hargobind Sahib, and then came the martial practices. To everyone I have known so far, only a complete bundle of this historical period could ever be considered Sikhi. Sri Guru Granth Sahib alone is not Sikhi. Langar alone is not Sikhi. Rehit maryada alone is not Sikhi. Gatka alone is not Sikhi. Only these practices together are known as Sikhi. Does that sound like a religion to you? It does not. It sounds like an awesome tradition! Ok so why am I talking about this? What is the relevance of considering Sikhism a tradition, at least in formal discussions? I think a religious framework (like that of Abrahamic Religions) leads people to attribute their own beliefs to the religion (unknowingly) because they want to be "Sikh", they want to be part of the religion but cannot believe in some of its beliefs. I mean times change and beliefs change, there is nothing wrong with that... but wait, is that how we work in religion?... No at all, in religion there is something wrong with it... and no doubt, there are consequences for professing different beliefs. SO In an attempt to reconcile their own beliefs with the religion, they attribute their own beliefs (with some compromise) to it (again unknowingly), which leads to (unintentional) dishonesty. However, if we view Sikhism as a tradition (even if only in formal discourse), then we can mentally rest assured, and study Sikhi with a clear view. Remember, in a tradition, there can be no fanatics. Well if everyone chimes in and gives a modern version of Guru Nanak's work, then no doubt we will have many more than just 2!