Reincarnation

hello readers,
(i am sikh) when i was told about reincarnation and how it was involved in sikhism i had to try to adjust to this concept, but as time progressed i realised you dont always HAVE to believe what you are told you can actually question things. So im questioning reincarnation....over the last 6 years i have fought with the idea that reincarnation really exists, to be honest i have come to the conclusion that i dont believe in reincarnation. I believe that those who have led their life the way Gxx wanted and basically avoided the bad stuff in the world will rest with the waheguru ji when they pass away. I feel that only this aspect of sikhism has been majorly been incorporated from Hinduism. In fact I believe that the reincarnation idea may have been added from Hinduism as if to provide support for their religion? this is only my opinion. if you believe in reincarnation tell me why you believe in it, if you think otherwise i dont mind you telling me so but explain why. i would also like to here other view points about those who dont believe in reincarnation.....

 
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reincarnation is mentioned several times in gurbani

ਸੁਖੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਪੁਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਕੇ ਕੀਏ ॥
सुखु दुखु पुरब जनम के कीए ॥
sukh dukh purab janam kay kee-ay.
Pleasure and pain are the consequences of the actions of past lives.


ਸੋ ਜਾਣੈ ਜਿਨਿ ਦਾਤੈ ਦੀਏ ॥
सो जाणै जिनि दातै दीए ॥
so jaanai jin daatai dee-ay.
The Giver, who blesses us with these - He alone knows.


ਕਿਸ ਕਉ ਦੋਸੁ ਦੇਹਿ ਤੂ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਸਹੁ ਅਪਣਾ ਕੀਆ ਕਰਾਰਾ ਹੇ ॥੧੪॥
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किस कउ दोसु देहि तू प्राणी सहु अपणा कीआ करारा हे ॥१४॥
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kis ka-o dos deh too paraanee saho apnaa kee-aa karaaraa hay. ||14||
So who can you blame, O mortal being? The hardships you suffer are from your own actions. ||14||

i do beleive in reincarnation and there is simple reason behind it.1 life is not enough to be with the god.there are so many different kind of destinies.some persons are born like princes while some are born without anything even sometime without limbs.if we have 1 life then why god is discriminating between us..just an example for you.if a person is born mentally retarted or with very low iq then where these people will go.they don't understand what is right what is wrong for them.will the person autonmatically be with god if yes then what is the purpose of his life and all the people in this world do not have same age.some people die at the age of 1 ,2 10 or 15 years,then again the question is what is the purpose of their life why god has given them such a small life.

Its probably true, i think reincarnation comes about about your karma...the good and bad you have done. Life may be a cycle of births and deaths through different life forms..according to sikhism 8.4 million or something like that? But what i dont understand is, how come in hinduism is says the same about 8.4 million life forms of births and deaths. But anyway, just be yourself and you dont have to keep thinking about god, because everything is god, we just have to be ourselves ..just be yourself, and take the pressure and joy of life at thesame time by being yourself.

We go through cycles of different life forms, and it is an adventure, we should appreciate the creator, and this life is just....just too great! We should love it, no matter what situation we are in. just let god handle everything, and all we can do is, be ourselves, because that is how our soul will progress, your inner self!

We are here in this life to learn and to progress! Love everything! Dont think to much, dont try to be too much into god...dont try being devoted if you cant handle it, just be yourself, and be thankful for everything! Everything is one! We are all humans, we all have the same organs and everything! Just think about it...life is so interesting, we cry when our loved ones die, but we dont realsie, death can come about anytime. But we dont need to worry, just be at ease and be truthful, and handle what you can only handle! Life is an adventure, do what it says in your heart, be yourself!!
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Do not live for money, or anything, be yourself, and you will find the truth of the divine loving god!

How exactly does this advocate reincarnation?

This is the author effectively talking to Hindus, saying that - even if you happen to believe in reincarnation as a Hindu - that it doesn't matter. All that matters is what you do in this life.

This is not saying that reincarnation exists. In fact, it's emphasising quite the contrary.

exactly, you dont have to look back at your past lfe, just get on with this...same with worrying...stop worrying about life and just get on with it..be yourself!

gurbani can be interpretted in many ways and nobody knows the correct meaning of gurbani.

i read the translation of pro sahib singh of the above lines and according to him the meaning is that we should not blame god for the sufferings in this life
because it is according to our actions of previous lives.and i don't think there is anything wrong in it.

Veerji, you REALLY need to read this book:

UNDITTHI DUNIYA (The Mystical Invisible World)
by Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji.

It will take you awhile to read. My advice is to read the book few pages at a time to TRULY ABSORB whats been wrtten down. I still havent not finished reading.

The other books are by Bhai Rama singh Ji.

hey everyone thankyou so much for replying i didnt think i would get a response like this. Anoop you message was especially so uplifting to read because your the first person who has ever given so excited about life!
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thanks everyone...keep posting....

its ok brother,

Most of us forget who we are, we are stuck into the physical!

I am not a hindu but a sikh, but i am not a proper sikh. I dont really belive in religions, because they come and go, i think religion had its meaning when there was a time for it, and i think the guru jis, and the guru granth sahib ji is all truth, from the divinity of god...

The thing is people treat sikhism as a religion, when in fact we shouldnt be calling it anything but gods divine rule.

In life, the you reach divinit truth by having pure concious. We are already one with creator, its how we realise it in this life that matters.

Our soul takes into this life memories and records of your life. Nothing is bad and good in life...everything is perfect! Dont worry if you havent reached your pure concious, as long as you be yourself, just tke the pressure of life, and be yourself, there will be time swhere you get confused and have pressure, but whateva happens, just be urself, because ur soul is one with the truth which we call god!

I advise you to watch sadhguru jaggi vasudev's show on aastha channel 808 sky digital!

Everyone wil give uplifiting messages, everyone is perfect...no matter screwed u por not, there are all members here who have good threads forums! we are all perfect and unique, we are here to share our love to this human race. We always forget about the animals, how beautiful creation is...all the worlds misery, with dead bodies in terrorist attacks happening, all is life! explore it! May you go through life wisely!
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life is a cycle of many different life forms creations, dnt try ur hard to look upon god, dnt ask questions about where god is, just be urself! remember tht, and thnk god in ur heart!

And look upon Guru Nanak Dev Ji, what a philosopher! god realsied, passion for waheguru ji! listen
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give love to others, dnt try so hard to, but by lovin urself, u give love to others, so do that, and just tke time in life to wonder how beautiful this life really is, as it is going through the divine plan!