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Answering Doubts Of Dalbeer Singh Ji Regarding Bani Onto The Tenth Master

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Covering letter by Mr Dalbeer Singh.

He wrongly calls head serviceman or Mukh Sevadar as per his creed as Jathedar Akal Takhat Sahib.

He talks of people appearing as Singh killing animals as scarifies and offering liquor to one temple of Demigoddess .He should now that there a great lot of Sikhs who could be seen with bodies gurudom like Radhwamis, Sachha Sauda or Nirankarsi(who are also of the faith that Tenth Master did not wrote any text). All these guys preach Bani from Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Further we have Hindus preaching bani from the same text, by which they claim that Vishnu be worshipped by Sikhs . Better to see Ashta Channel or other Hindu Channels where we see so called Sikhs dancing in front of picture of Vishnu.

Then writer talks about Shri Dasham Granth Sahib as one text which tries to prove tenth Master as goddess worshipper. While there are verses in Guru Granth Sahib Ji,which could be used by same logic of writer to prove it as for Vishnu worshippers. He talks of teeka or explanation by Mr Ratan Singh Jaggi. Well ,will he agree to Teeka of Shri Guru Granth Sahib by Fareedkotis Nirmalas?

Then he talks of Adhar Granth. Well those Hindus text themselves have no standard edition at all.

He talks of 9 points.

  • Details of text included and some points for 2 pages
  • 7 pages to prove that Ardh Narishwar is talked about in this text. We will prove that how writer is intellectually bankrupt and such logic could play havoc with Adi Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s interpetaion.
  • Names of poet Syam,Ram and Kal and who are they in two pages.
  • Well one page to prove that poet is committing mistake and it will be proved at last that writer himself is mistaken. There are verse in Shri Guru Granth Sahib where Guru could use term dog or Haramkhor for poet.
  • He claims that Hiqayats are there to encourage vulgar terminology and usage of intoxicants. He will be proven wrong on the basis of Shir Guru Granth Sahib ji.2 pages
  • His claims about condemning the female will be sorted out.one page.
  • So called vulgar terms exposing the racial inclination of the writer.
  • He calls present day Rahit Maryada as Hippocratic based upon his so called intellect, with same logic tomorrow keeping hairs could be proved as against Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.Right of Sikhs to defend will be off.
  • Then its comparision with Hindu texts. Das has seen a pamphlet by B L Sharama Prem Singh Sher, who used reference from Shri Guru Granth Sahib, to prove that Rama is god of us and we should defend Ram setu. Logic of his was same as writer.
Then writer does a self praise of knowing Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji well. It will be proved at last that how good does he know.
He says that he does not believes in Ardas and misquote that part of Anand Sahib which says that voice is false with without true Guru ie Akal.

He talks of verse by Tenth Master as poison as milk. It proves that he is afraid of poison and it also proves that he has not yet gained eternity by the nectar of Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

He tries to create rift between faith and the guide while both are same ie Akal. He claims that Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji are opposite.

Then he gives another plea that he could be non believer as not reading the verse of tenth Master. Das has question that while he talks of the form of demigods yet he does not talk about attributes of Sikh God. Then maybe his claim to be a non believer could be true.

He further says that if he is not replied in few days then he thinks that he is true. Well does he thinks Panths is only bounded to reply to his hoaxes.

Let us show the sangat his hoaxes.
 
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He talks of one version of 1328pages and give details of the publishers.

  • Japu(Sahib).As per writer there is no ending sign of it. So what is fuss about it ? Only one examples from many ie Salok Sahas Kirti Mahala Panjavan (5th ) in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also does not have any ending sign. Then he says that some similar words are there in Japu Sahib Ji, which are there in Hiqayats so what is so fuss as writer of both is same ie Tenth Master getting words from God or Syam. Does not term Akal, Agadh, Anoop, Apaar are to be found in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and in fact whole of that text is work of poet Shyam ie poet God.
  • Then he talks about Akalustat without any starting. So what about a line before Sarang Mahala 5 Surdas? He further cribs upon Akal being termed as killer of buffalo demon so it becomes Kal or Devi. Well where on earth term Kal is used for Devi in Hindus ? This term is used for Shiv or some times his warrior form. Akal is told to be killing the same demon in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also.
  • Then he talks of Bachitar Natak and tells that form of worshipped is Sarabkal Kalka. So as per this logic of Hindu names only we can say that from of worshipped as per Japu Sahib Ji is Lord Rama of Hindus as per verse
(੭੮੩-੧੮, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਪੂਰਨ ਪੁਰਖ ਅਚੁਤ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਜਸੁ ਵੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਗਾਇਆ
pooran purakh achuth abinaasee jas vaedh puraanee gaaeiaa ||
The Vedas and the Puraanas sing the Praises of the Perfect, Unchanging, Imperishable Primal Lord.
18 Soohee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 783)
(-, ਜਪੁ, )
ਜਿਨ ਕੈ ਰਾਮੁ ਵਸੈ ਮਨ ਮਾਹਿ
jin kai raam vasai man maahi ||
within whose minds the Lord abides.
4 Jap Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 8)


  • Here he talks of Chandi Charitar Ukti Bilas, as per him as per Markandeya Purana is mentioned so it becomes Brahmanical. While the fact is that as per Hindus as if Sudra listen to even a word of Veda, the molten lead should be put in his/her ear, So Veda Vysa,who was son of boat woman and a sage without wedlock wrote Puranas.

(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਅਸਟ ਦਸਾ ਖਟੁ ਤੀਨਿ ਉਪਾਏ
asatt dhasaa khatt theen oupaaeae ||
He created the eighteen Puraanas, the six Shaastras and the three qualities.
8 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 839)
(੮੮੬-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਦਸ ਅਸਟੀ ਮਿਲਿ ਏਕੋ ਕਹਿਆ
dhas asattee mil eaeko kehiaa ||
The eighteen Puraanas all speak of the One God.
4 Raamkalee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 886)
So what Guru tells is that Puranas talk of God and these are only a few verses.
Why did Guru talks of so called Brahmanical texts ?

  • Then we find him talking about the end of next of Last Chandi Charitra where demigods sing the praise of formless manifesting as killer of demons. Which as per writer is ploy to preach us worship of demigoddess while term refered there is Brahm Kavach or aroumour of God in manifested form.
  • Then he asks that why third time again Var Durga Ki is written ? Answer is that this time it is Punjabi. First one was from Markandey Purana but some details were not given like Brahm Kavach etc. Which were given in second one. It is the case of time management. First arise natives with symbol of their demigoddess attributed to from less in fast mode, then strengthen it further with details latter on. He cribs on term Durga Path. He should know that there is verse in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with name Karhale or camel. That does not mean that we are told to worship camel in there. In fact it is written in there that Durga is creation of God.
  • Then perhaps without reading Gyan Prabodh writer says that it encourages alter fire Yagnas and demigoddess worshipping. While fact is that it discourages this with explicit verses that no Yagana could come near name(of God) remembering. And twice demigoddess are told singing praises to lord of Sikhs, further at last we are told to have such sort of Yagna like demigoddess killed demons in war. We are told that war is Yagna.
  • Then in Chaubees Avtar he says of poet Shyam, who he does not know is meant for God as poet. He further tells lie that it is wholly based upon Shrimad Bhagwat Puranas, While Vishnu taking incarnation as told by Akal Purakh is not in that text nor we have Rudra/Brhama/Sun/Moon as Avtars. So this tells that he has not understood Shrimad Bhagwat Purana.
  • Then he talks of Krishna Avtar. He talks that term Shrimad Bhagvat Purana being mentioned makes it from Shrimad Bhagvat Purana. As per Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha it has amalgamation of both Devi Bhagwat Purana and Shrimad Bhagwat Purana. While writer forgets here that there are some ditto reference from Shrimad Bhagwat Purana regarding lion man manifestation is there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji
He also talks of vulgar language and poet Shyam who is God in which Dalbeer singh Ji has no faith declares that this is work of God. Langugae vulgarity could be understood by the fact that writer is not in touch with the language used by farmers, laborer, urban poor or rural folks. He tries to fit Guru who is in all into the mould of upper caste urbanite. Demigoddess worshipping Krishna who is black is proven to be Dravidian in here and he has been told abusing Brahmins also(while he sends his companions to get food from Brahmins of Mathura). Then with regard to term Mahakal he talks of Chritropakhyan 266. In there we are told that when Princess worships formless God, Brahmin calls he drug addict type of lady, when she makes that Brahmin also give up worship of demigods. Then that is termed as addiction. Such examples are there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, where worship of God is told to be like having wine or cannabis.

  • Then he talks of other manifestations and Kalki also. No where it is written that Mahidi Meer is Avtar yet he writes him as Avtar. No Hindu will write that tier demigod will be killed by future holy person of Islam ie Mehadi Meer as we are told here. Coming of Mehdi Meer is at end of Kalki and not an avtar as in Islam such things are not there. At last Mehadi Meer is also told be killed by an insect created by Akal. Then he talks as Kalki being Anti Shudra while he misses verse 163 ,where is written that by lowly deeds creation become lowly. Further in coming verse term Chhatri is used for armed kings fighting Kalki. eg verse 402.
  • Then writer talks of Brahmas Avtar while he forgets that here an outcaste Balmeek is told to be the manifestation of God.
  • Then he talks about strange way of Datt’s birth while forgets Brhama born of lotus as per Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Parasnath is told wrongly about worshipping demigoddess. Here in Rudra Avtara we are told that Akal commands Rudra and that is not demigoddess as in Akal Ustat, Var Durga Ji Ki and Gyan Prabodh and even in Parasnath Avtar(Verse12.86) demigoddess is termed inferior to God of Sikhs.
  • In Shaster Nam Mala Purana he says that start is with praises of Bhagouti, does not Bhagouti over there is termed as sword. Verse 1 to 4. Likewise we find sword being praised with Jai Tegan ,in the start of Bachitar Natak
  • Then he talks of Charitropakhyan. Well as per poet Kal, Syam and Ram are concerned they all are name of Gods. Then again he wrongly takes sword as demigoddess as per first Charitropakhyan. He repeats the mistake of 266th Charitropakhyan as told before. He attacks Chaupayee Sahib again which is at end of last Charitropakhyan ,He says that Mahakal term is not for God of Sikhs while demigod Shiv and his Shakta version also is mentioned within that Chartropakhyan and demigoddess is also mentioned as separate over there but One God of Sikhs is there who is in all. He further talks of vulgarity, adultery ,hair removal and usage of intoxicant being mentioned. So just by mentioning such things in oppressing rulers who are from upper caste or foreign invaders hardly makes the differences.
  • Then he cribs upon Guru Ji’s having a satire over the irony of Aurangzeb. Any objective person could analysis as person and informs his weaknesses and strengths. But Guru is never a subjective like missionaries. There is figure in Hindi poetry called Stuti Ninda or praise criticism ,which Guru has no bonding to not to use.
  • Then he cribs upon the similarty between Hiqyats and Charitropakhyan. It has to be as Guru’s Sikhs were as far as in Afghanistan, Central Asia and Iran and perhaps Sipleeds of Iraq. All could understand Farsi. They were also tob e told of Miri and Piri concept.
Some issues regarding the text.

  • This text has not been given Guruship So what is so fuss about it. When was Guruship given to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, during first Prakash and Vak taking by Baba Budha Ji or during Tenth Master becoming one with Akal leaving his human body ? Why is it not written in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that Guruship is given to them ? Are words outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib telling us to behold them as our Guru, said by Tenth Master not words of Guru or Gurbani, if yes then Gurbani could be outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Five ks, surname as Singh , all are outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. We take daily Hukam Nammah, that is Gurbani from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, then why is not rest of Rahit Nammah also not Huqam or order of Guru so Gurbani. Term Granth comes once only in Shri Guru Granth Sahib, Asankh Granth Mukh Ved Path. Term Granth in Hindi stands both for Granth and Granths ie singular and plural respectively. So by this logic what do you understand for Guru Manya Granth ?
  • The ideology of this text does not matches with Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji, but does writer is clear about what ideology of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is ?
  • There is no term Nanak for poet or Mahala in here, so what, there are verse without term Nanak in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji(Even a few verse in Japu Sahib or veres talking Na Hum Hindu Na Musalman(we are neither Hindu nor Muslims), also there are verse without Mahala in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also(See Devgandhari Raga unto Fifth Master).
  • Then he says that poetry figure or language here is different here then rest of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, well who told Tenth Master to not to use new language and new poetry figure.
  • Then without proof he says that this text tries to bring Sikhs into Brahmanism. He has not seen Rama Parshurama dialogue or Charitropakhyan 266 or as told before Krishna Abusing Brahmins as told Before. So writer repeat the brhaman phobia jingoism endemic to Kala Afghanaism.
  • He wrongly tells that female are slandered in here. Verse he gives talks of the fact about comment of Hindu Minister about these specific ladies who could be used to let political head astray (some what like honey trap). Term Kartara is used for Brahma, Three terms ie Bidhana, Brhama and Kartara could be used for Brahma and we are told about his getting befooled by a lady in one Charitropakhyan (Charitropakhyan 332) also.
  • Term Bhagouti is Akal’s manifestation as sword which writer confuses with demigoddess.
  • The humble way of calling self as forgetfull is there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, While so called principle(of leftism perhaps)History(Bhatt Svayyes) and science (As told about Brhama getting out of lotus before)are there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also.
 
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The form of worshipped(Esth )
As per writer Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji are based upon Brhamanical texts of Markandev Purana, Shrimad Bhagavat Purana and Shiv Purana. Fact is none of the text is Brahmanical as told before. He wrongly tells that heroine of Markandey Purana is demigoddess while the fact is that she is menitioned only in few chapters ie 78 to 90. Further another thing is that there is not a standard version of most of the Hindu Texts including Vedas even. His talk of Shiv Purana bases is bogus as only some part of Devi/Uma Mahtam comes to appear similar while in fact there is not at all any thing as such regarding Shiv Purana mentioned in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib. We need to know that both Brahmsutra Bhashaya and Manu Samriti talks of household life or grahasti as best. Gurbani also says the same but that does not means that Gurbani is based upon it. Coming to Shirmad Bhagvat Purana as told before some things are there from Devi Bhagvat Purana also, if we go by Bhai Kahan Singh Ji Nabha.

From Brahmanical things writer switches over to Vam Margi Shakta. It is very strange as this faith itself is averse to Brahmanism. In this faith, when one has to join, he has to eat from one vessel, the wine and the meat, this is called the Bhairavi Chakra. Vam Margis in general had history to have intercourse with Domani/Rajjaki/ outcaste female as their way of worshipping while pro Brahmin Manu Samriti forbids an intercourse with outcaste/Chandalinie(means same as Domani). He tries to prove that Mahakal Kalka are demigod and demigoddess in further lines to come. He discusses the vulgarity of charitropakhyan which is only to his being racial interpreter of Gurmat.

Page 11, he gives

Page 33, Line 6


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਰਛਿਆ ਹਮਨੈ
Sarab kaal joo doo rachhiaa hamnai||
The All-Destroying Lord is my Protector.

Page 33, Line 7


ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਸਦਾ ਰਛਿਆ ਹਮਨੈ
Sarab loh joo doo sadaa racchiaa hamnai||
The All-Steel Lord is ever my Protector.

Page 33, Line 8

And tells that this is not for Ek Oankar, And Sarbloh and and Srabkal stands for some one else. He says that start of text is not given.

See

ਛਾਡਿ ਮਨ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਮੁਖਨ ਕੋ ਸੰਗੁ
shhaadd man har bimukhan ko sang ||
O mind, do not even associate with those who have turned their backs on the Lord.
(Ang 1253)

Further to it we are aware of next line also which is there in verse by Surdas Ji but not included in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Anyway writer does not give full details.


ਮੁਖ ਭਾਗ 2

Chapter 2

Page 33, Line 1


ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤ
Akaal Ustat
EULOGY OF THE NON-TEMPORAL LORD

Page 33, Line 2


ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤ
Akaal Ustat
EULOGY OF THE NON-TEMPORAL LORD

Page 33, Line 2


ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Ik Oankaar Sat(i)gur Prasaadh||
The Lord is One and he can be attained through the grace of the True Guru.

Page 33, Line 3


ਉਤਾਰ ਖਾਸੇ ਦਸਖਤ ਕਾ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੀ ੧੦
Utaar khaase daskhat kaa|| Patishaahoo 10||
Copy of the manuscript with exclusive signatures of the Tenth Sovereign.

Page 33, Line 4


ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਕੀ ਰਛਾ ਹਮਨੈ
Akaal purakh koo rachhaa hamnai||
The non-temporal Purusha (All-Pervading Lord) is my Protector.

Page 33, Line 5


ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਦੀ ਰਛਿਆ ਹਮਨੈ
Sarab loh doo rachhiaa hamnai||
The All-Steel Lord is my Protector.

Page 33, Line 6


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਰਛਿਆ ਹਮਨੈ
Sarab kaal joo doo rachhiaa hamnai||
The All-Destroying Lord is my Protector.

Page 33, Line 7


ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਸਦਾ ਰਛਿਆ ਹਮਨੈ
Sarab loh joo doo sadaa racchiaa hamnai||
The All-Steel Lord is ever my Protector.

Page 33, Line 8


ਆਗੈ ਲਿਖਾਰੀ ਕੇ ਦਸਤਖਤ
aagai likhaarooke dastkaht||
Then the signatures of the Author (Guru Gobind Singh).

Page 33, Line 9


ਤ੍ਵ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਚਉਪਈ
Tva Prasaadh|| Chaupaoo||
BY THY GRACE QUATRAIN (CHAUPAI)

Page 33, Line 10


ਪ੍ਰਣਵੋ ਆਦਿ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ
Pranvo aadh Ekankaaraa||
I Salute the One Primal Lord.

Page 33, Line 11


ਜਲ ਥਲ ਮਹੀਅਲ ਕੀਓ ਪਸਾਰਾ
Jal thal mahooal kooo pasaaraa||
Who pervades the watery, earthly and heavenly expanse.

Page 33, Line 12


ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖ ਅਬਗਤਿ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ
aadi purakh abgat(i) abinaasoo||
That Primal Purusha is Unmanifested and Immortal.

Page 33, Line 13


ਲੋਕ ਚੱਤ੍ਰੁ ਦਸ ਜੋਤਿ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸੀ
Lok chattr(u) das jot(i) prakaasoo||1||
His Light illumines the fourteen worlds. I.

Page 33, Line 14

So is not Ekoankar is written explicitly and deliberated fraud is done by the writer.

Further about god Shiva and demigoddess we have verse ahead of this verse the verses 5 and 6.
age 34, Line 12


ਅਨਹਦ ਰੂਪ ਅਨਾਹਦ ਬਾਨੀ
Anhad roop anaahad baanoo||
He is Limitless Entity and hath infinite celestial strain.

Page 34, Line 13


ਚਰਨ ਸਰਨ ਜਿਹ ਬਸਤ ਭਵਾਨੀ
Charan saran jih basat bhavaanoo||
The goddess Durga takes refuge at His Feet and abides there.

Page 34, Line 14

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨ ਅੰਤੁ ਨਹਿ ਪਾਇਓ
Brahmaa Bisan ant(u) nahoo paaio||
Brahma and Vishnu Could not know His end.

Page 35, Line 1


ਨੇਤ ਨੇਤ ਮੁਖਚਾਰ ਬਤਾਇਓ
Net net mukhchaar bataaio||5||
The four-headed god Brahma described Him ad ‘Neti Neti’ (Not this, Not this).5.

Page 35, Line 2


ਕੋਟਿ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਉਪਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਬਨਾਏ
Kottee Indra Upindra banaae||
He hath created millions of Indras and Upindras (smaller Indras).

Page 35, Line 3


ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਰੁਦ੍ਰ ਉਪਾਇ ਖਪਾਏ
Brahmaa Rudra upaae khapaae||
He hath created and destroyed Brahmas and Rudras (Shivas).

Page 35, Line 4


ਲੋਕ ਚੱਤ੍ਰ ਦਸ ਖੇਲ ਰਚਾਇਓ
Lok chattra das khel rachaaio||
He hath created the play of fourteen worlds.

Page 35, Line 5


ਬਹੁਰ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਬੀਚ ਮਿਲਾਇਓ
Bahur aap hoo booch milaaio||6||
And then Himself merges it within His Self.6.

Then he cribs about
Verses 211 to 230 and cribs about the name hail the one who tramples the buffalo demon.

Well same Mahishasur ‘s killer is there

(੨੨੪-੧੭, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਸਹਸਬਾਹੁ ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟ ਮਹਿਖਾਸਾ
sehasabaahu madhh keett mehikhaasaa ||
The Lord killed the thousand-armed Arjun, and the demons Madhu-keetab and Meh-khaasaa.
17 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev


(੨੨੪-੧੮, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਲੇ ਨਖਹੁ ਬਿਧਾਸਾ
haranaakhas lae nakhahu bidhhaasaa ||
He seized Harnaakhash and tore him apart with his nails.
18 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev


(੨੨੪-੧੮, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਗਤਿ ਅਭਿਆਸਾ
dhaith sanghaarae bin bhagath abhiaasaa ||6||
The demons were slain; they did not practice devotional worship. ||6||
18 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev


(੨੨੪-੧੯, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਜਰਾਸੰਧਿ ਕਾਲਜਮੁਨ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ
jaraasandhh kaalajamun sanghaarae ||
The demons Jaraa-sandh and Kaal-jamun were destroyed.
19 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev


(੨੨੪-੧੯, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਰਕਤਬੀਜੁ ਕਾਲੁਨੇਮੁ ਬਿਦਾਰੇ
rakathabeej kaalunaem bidhaarae ||
Rakat-beej and Kaal-naym were annihilated.
19 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev


(੨੨੪-੧੯, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰਿ ਸੰਤ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ
dhaith sanghaar santh nisathaarae ||7||
Slaying the demons, the Lord saved His Saints. ||7||
19 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 224)

Likewise it is unprecedented that any one used term Kal for demigoddess. While the fact is that Kal is term used of God of Sikhs and demigoddess is just an attribute/manifestation of the same. This in fact invites demigoddess worshipped mostly outcaste/apostate into the fold of Sikhism. They are told that as per History also their demigoddess is in fact the from less one so go back to the true lord who is formless. Fact is that Allah(Al Elah) was the God of both Bani Israel(Jews) and Bani Ishmael(Arabs) but Arabs started to make an idol of female demigoddess and called her Allah,she has three daughters also ie Al lat, Manat ,Al Ujja. Prophet Muhammad(SWAS) brought back the Arabs to true lord. Similar thing is done by the Tenth Master.

Verse from Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji regarding Kal as God.


(੧੪੦੩-੧੯, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਮਾਨਹਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾਦਿਕ ਰੁਦ੍ਰਾਦਿਕ ਕਾਲ ਕਾ ਕਾਲੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਜਚਨਾ
maanehi brehamaadhik rudhraadhik kaal kaa kaal niranjan jachanaa ||
Brahmas and Shivas respect and obey You. O Death of death, Formless Lord, I beg of You.
19 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand
(Ang 1403)


(੧੧੫੯-੧੮, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਸੋ ਮੁਲਾਂ ਜੋ ਮਨ ਸਿਉ ਲਰੈ
so mulaan jo man sio larai ||
He alone is a Mullah, who struggles with his mind,
18 Bhaira-o Saint Kabir


(੧੧੫੯-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਗੁਰ ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਕਾਲ ਸਿਉ ਜੁਰੈ
gur oupadhaes kaal sio jurai ||
and through the Guru's Teachings, fights with death.
19 Bhaira-o Saint Kabir


(੧੧੫੯-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਾ ਮਰਦੈ ਮਾਨੁ
kaal purakh kaa maradhai maan ||
He crushes the pride of the Messenger of Death.
19 Bhaira-o Saint Kabir


(੧੧੫੯-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਤਿਸੁ ਮੁਲਾ ਕਉ ਸਦਾ ਸਲਾਮੁ
this mulaa ko sadhaa salaam ||1||
Unto that Mullah, I ever offer greetings of respect. ||1||
19 Bhaira-o Saint Kabir
(Ang 1159)

Over here Kal Purakh is interpreted as messenger of death, while Jurai is deemed as to fight.

Let us see the thing clearer.

(੧੧੫੯-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਗੁਰ ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਕਾਲ ਸਿਉ ਜੁਰੈ
gur oupadhaes kaal sio jurai ||
and through the Guru's Teachings, fights with death.
19 Bhaira-o Saint Kabir

The term Jurai is never meant to fight in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But is is meant to unite or to get united.

(੨੩੮-੧੦, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ
gourree mehalaa 5 ||
Gauree, Fifth Mehl:
10 null null


(੨੩੮-੧੦, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਜੁਰੈ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਮੀਤੁ
har sio jurai th sabh ko meeth ||
When someone attaches himself to the Lord, then everyone is his friend.
10 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev


(੨੩੮-੧੦, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਜੁਰੈ ਨਿਹਚਲੁ ਚੀਤੁ
har sio jurai th nihachal cheeth ||
When someone attaches himself to the Lord, then his consciousness is steady.
10 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev


(੨੩੮-੧੧, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਜੁਰੈ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਕਾੜ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ
har sio jurai n viaapai kaarrhaa ||
When someone attaches himself to the Lord, he is not afflicted by worries.
11 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev


(੨੩੮-੧੧, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਜੁਰੈ ਹੋਇ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ
har sio jurai th hoe nisathaaraa ||1||
When someone attaches himself to the Lord, he is emancipated. ||1||
11 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 238)

So it may mean that by preaching of Guru unite with Kal.

(੭੨੩-, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਆਵਨਿ ਅਠਤਰੈ ਜਾਨਿ ਸਤਾਨਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਭੀ ਉਠਸੀ ਮਰਦ ਕਾ ਚੇਲਾ
aavan athatharai jaan sathaanavai hor bhee outhasee maradh kaa chaelaa ||
Coming in seventy-eight (1521 A.D.), they will depart in ninety-seven (1540 A.D.), and then another disciple of man will rise up.
4 Tilang Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 723)

So term is used for strong masculine person is Marad. In Farsi this means male human. We need to understand that person discussed here is a Muslim who has to know farsi at that time. While he may not know Mardan of Sanskrit.

With term Ai joined to Mara die Mardai we understand that
As per
(੪੨੧-੧੮, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਉਗਣਿਆਰੇ ਕਉ ਗੁਣੁ ਨਾਨਕੈ ਸਚੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਵਡਾਈ ੨੦
aouganiaarae ko gun naanakai sach milai vaddaaee ||8||20||
Please, grant virtue to Nanak, the virtueless one; bless him with the glorious greatness of the Truth. ||8||20||
18 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 421)

We see Nanakai means to Nanak.

So exact meaning of this should be

To Marad, there is Maan(glory/pride) of Kaal Purakh.

We have another example which as follows.


(੧੧੦੪-, ਮਾਰੂ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਕਾਲੁ ਅਕਾਲੁ ਖਸਮ ਕਾ ਕੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਇਹੁ ਪਰਪੰਚੁ ਬਧਾਵਨੁ
kaal akaal khasam kaa keenhaa eihu parapanch badhhaavan ||
Death, and deathlessness are the creations of our Lord and Master; this show, this expanse, is only an entanglement.
7 Maaroo Saint Kabir
(Ang 1104)

Here why do we take death as kaal and deathlessness as Akal ?

As both Kal and Akal has Anukarh ie Kal(u) Akal(u) that makes both joined for one entity like
(੭੫੦-, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਸਭ ਤੇ ਡਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਕਲ ਰਾਖੀ ਮੇਰੀ ੧੦੫੭
sabh thae vaddaa sathigur naanak jin kal raakhee maeree ||4||10||57||
Guru Nanak is the greatest of all; He saved my honor in this Dark Age of Kali Yuga. ||4||10||57||
4 Soohee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 750)
As over here with Anukarh Satigur(u) and Nanak(u) becomes one entity.

Like wise on Ang 1079.

(੧੦੭੯-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਸਿਮਰੈ ਕਾਲੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਸੁਚਿ ਸੋਚਾ
simarai kaal akaal such sochaa ||
Death and life, and thoughts of purification, meditate in remembrance.
8 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1079)

We find term Akal used for Birth while it may means that remembers the purity related to eternal death(God).

Like wise at end of Akal Ustat we have

ਸਾਤੋ ਅਕਾਸ ਸਾਤੋ ਪਤਾਰ ਬਿਥਰਿਓ ਅਦਿਸਟ ਜਿਹ ਕਰਮ ਜਾਰਿ
Saato akaas saato pataar||Bithario adist jih karam jaar(i)||
In all the seven Heavens and seven nether-worlds His net of karmas (actions) is invisibly spread.

Page 94, Line 1


ਉਸਤਤ ਸੰਪੂਰਣੰ
Ustat sanpooranang||
THE EULOGY IS COMPLETE.

Page 94, Line 2

It starts with Akal Purakh and ends with Ustat Sampurana, yet it could be not called
Akalustat is it not strange ? While there are versions of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib in which heading is Akalustat also added to it we find that oldest version also has Akalustat written for this text in its index. So writer attempt to misguide Sikhs has failed here too.

Page 39 he talks of Kal Ji Ki Ustat

For that let us see what does Kaal means in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.

ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI

Page 412, Line 13


ਕਾਲ ਸਭਨ ਕਾ ਕਰਤ ਪਸਾਰਾ
Kaal sabhan kaa karat pasaaraa||
The KAL (Destroyer Lord) causes the expansion of all;

Page 412, Line 14

ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲ ਸੋਈ ਖਾਪਨ ਹਾਰਾ
Ant kaal soikhaapan haaraa||
The same Temporal Lord ultimately destroys all;

Page 413, Line 1


ਆਪਨ ਰੂਪ ਅਨੰਤਨ ਧਰਹੀ
aapan roop anantan dhar-hee||
He manifests Himself in innumerable forms,

Page 413, Line 2


ਆਪਹਿ ਮਧ ਲੀਨ ਪੁਨ ਕਰਹੀ
aapah(i) madh leen pun kar-hee||3||
And Himself merges all within Hmself.3.
(Chaubees Avtar)

ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI
Line 1


ਅੰਤ ਕਰਤ ਸਭ ਜਗ ਕੋ ਕਾਲਾ
Ant karat sabh jag ko kaalaa||
At time Thou destroyest the universe;
Line 2


ਨਾਮੁ ਕਾਲ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਗ ਡਾਲਾ
Naam(u) kaal taa te jag ?aalaa||
Therefore the world hath named you KAL (the Destroyer Lord);
Line 3


ਸਮੈ ਸੰਤ ਪਰ ਹੋਤ ਸਹਾਈ
Samai sant par hot sahaaee||
Thou hast been helping all the saints;
Line 4


ਤਾ ਤੇ ਸੰਖਯਾ ਸੰਤ ਸੁਨਾਈ
Taa te sankhyaa sant sunaaee||9||
Therefore the saints have reckoned Thy incarnations.9.
Line 5
(Chaubees Avtar)

Likewise in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji same entity it told to be destroyer of all creation.



(੨੨੭-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਜਿਨਿ ਕਰਿ ਸਾਜੀ ਤਿਨਹਿ ਸਭ ਗੋਈ
jin kar saajee thinehi sabh goee ||
He who created and fashioned everything, shall destroy it.
8 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 287)






(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ ਮਹਲਾ ਚਉਪਦੇ ਘਰੁ
raag gonadd mehalaa 5 choupadhae ghar 1
Raag Gond, Fifth Mehl, Chau-Padas, First House:
3 null null


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
3 null null


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਸਭੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਸਭੁ ਭੁਗਤਾ ਰਹਾਉ
sabh karathaa sabh bhugathaa ||1|| rehaao ||
He is the Creator of all, He is the Enjoyer of all. ||1||Pause||
4 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਸੁਨਤੋ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੇਖਤ ਕਰਤਾ
sunatho karathaa paekhath karathaa ||
The Creator listens, and the Creator sees.
4 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਅਦ੍ਰਿਸਟੋ ਕਰਤਾ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟੋ ਕਰਤਾ
adhrisatto karathaa dhrisatto karathaa ||
The Creator is unseen, and the Creator is seen.
4 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਓਪਤਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਪਰਲ ਕਰਤਾ
oupath karathaa paralo karathaa ||
The Creator forms, and the Creator destroys.
5 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਬਿਆਪਤ ਕਰਤਾ ਅਲਿਪਤੋ ਕਰਤਾ
biaapath karathaa alipatho karathaa ||1||
The Creator touches, and the Creator is detached. ||1||
5 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਬਕਤੋ ਕਰਤਾ ਬੂਝਤ ਕਰਤਾ
bakatho karathaa boojhath karathaa ||
The Creator is the One who speaks, and the Creator is the One who understands.
5 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਆਵਤੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਜਾਤੁ ਭੀ ਕਰਤਾ
aavath karathaa jaath bhee karathaa ||
The Creator comes, and the Creator also goes.
6 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਕਰਤਾ ਸਰਗੁਨ ਕਰਤਾ
niragun karathaa saragun karathaa ||
The Creator is absolute and without qualities; the Creator is related, with the most excellent qualities.
6 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੨-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਮਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਾ
gur prasaadh naanak samadhrisattaa ||2||1||
By Guru's Grace, Nanak looks upon all the same. ||2||1||
6 Gond Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 862)


Page 41 – over here writer tries to prove that as some (wrongly understood) visible attributes are given to God so this God could not be God of Sikhs. Likewise as God is told over here killing the demons which are in Hindus being told to be killed by Goddess so by this “logic” goddess is praises and not the God of Sikhs. Let us see.

Here we are told in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that God of Sikhs doing work which are as per Hindus attributed to Vishnu, And even name of attributed to God are used for Vishnu in Hindus.


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਬਸੰਤੁ ਮਹਲਾ ਘਰੁ ਦੁਤੁਕੀਆ
basanth mehalaa 5 ghar 1 dhuthukeeaa
Basant, Fifth Mehl, First House, Du-Tukee:
2 null null


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
2 null null


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਸੁਣਿ ਸਾਖੀ ਮਨ ਜਪਿ ਪਿਆਰ
sun saakhee man jap piaar ||
Listen to the stories of the devotees, O my mind, and meditate with love.
3 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਅਜਾਮਲੁ ਉਧਰਿਆ ਕਹਿ ਏਕ ਬਾਰ
ajaamal oudhhariaa kehi eaek baar ||
Ajaamal uttered the Lord's Name once, and was saved.
3 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਬਾਲਮੀਕੈ ਹੋਆ ਸਾਧਸੰਗੁ
baalameekai hoaa saadhhasang ||
Baalmeek found the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy.
3 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਧ੍ਰੂ ਕਉ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਿਸੰਗ
dhhroo ko miliaa har nisang ||1||
The Lord definitely met Dhroo. ||1||
3 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਤੇਰਿਆ ਸੰਤਾ ਜਾਚਉ ਚਰਨ ਰੇਨ
thaeriaa santhaa jaacho charan raen ||
I beg for the dust of the feet of Your Saints.
4 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਲੇ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲਾਵਉ ਕਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਦੇਨ ਰਹਾਉ
lae masathak laavo kar kirapaa dhaen ||1|| rehaao ||
Please bless me with Your Mercy, Lord, that I may apply it to my forehead. ||1||Pause||
4 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਗਨਿਕਾ ਉਧਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਕਹੈ ਤੋਤ
ganikaa oudhharee har kehai thoth ||
Ganika the prostitute was saved, when her parrot uttered the Lord's Name.
5 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਗਜਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਧਿਆਇਓ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਓ ਮੋਖ
gajaeindhr dhhiaaeiou har keeou mokh ||
The elephant meditated on the Lord, and was saved.
5 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਬਿਪ੍ਰ ਸੁਦਾਮੇ ਦਾਲਦੁ ਭੰਜ
bipr sudhaamae dhaaladh bhanj ||
He delivered the poor Brahmin Sudama out of poverty.
5 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਰੇ ਮਨ ਤੂ ਭੀ ਭਜੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ
rae man thoo bhee bhaj gobindh ||2||
O my mind, you too must meditate and vibrate on the Lord of the Universe. ||2||
6 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਬਧਿਕੁ ਉਧਾਰਿਓ ਖਮਿ ਪ੍ਰਹਾਰ
badhhik oudhhaariou kham prehaar ||
Even the hunter who shot an arrow at Krishna was saved.
6 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਕੁਬਿਜਾ ਉਧਰੀ ਅੰਗੁਸਟ ਧਾਰ
kubijaa oudhharee angusatt dhhaar ||
Kubija the hunchback was saved, when God placed His Feet on her thumb.
6 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਬਿਦਰੁ ਉਧਾਰਿਓ ਦਾਸਤ ਭਾਇ
bidhar oudhhaariou dhaasath bhaae ||
Bidar was saved by his attitude of humility.
6 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਰੇ ਮਨ ਤੂ ਭੀ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਇ
rae man thoo bhee har dhhiaae ||3||
O my mind, you too must meditate on the Lord. ||3||
7 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਰਖੀ ਹਰਿ ਪੈਜ ਆਪ
prehalaadh rakhee har paij aap ||
The Lord Himself saved the honor of Prahlaad.
7 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਛੀਨਤ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਰਖੀ ਲਾਜ
basathr shheenath dhropathee rakhee laaj ||
Even when she was being disrobed in court, Dropatee's honor was preserved.
7 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਜਿਨਿ ਜਿਨਿ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਅੰਤ ਬਾਰ
jin jin saeviaa anth baar ||
Those who have served the Lord, even at the very last instant of their lives, are saved.
8 Basant Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਰੇ ਮਨ ਸੇਵਿ ਤੂ ਪਰਹਿ ਪਾਰ
rae man saev thoo parehi paar ||4||
O my mind, serve Him, and you shall be carried across to the other side. ||4||
8 Basant Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1192)

Physical attribute like turban is given to God in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, which in here interpretation could be different .

(੭੨੭-੧੭, ਤਿਲਗ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਖੂਬੁ ਤੇਰੀ ਪਗਰ ਮੀਠੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਬੋਲ
khoob thaeree pagaree meethae thaerae bol ||
How handsome is your turban! And how sweet is your speech.
17 Tilang Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 727)

Then we have dark skinned God in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and could have hairs also.

(੩੩੫-, ਗਉੜੀ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰਾਮਈਆ
saaval sundhar raameeaa ||
O my dark and beautiful Lord,
9 Gaurhee Saint Kabir
(Ang 335)
(੨੦੩-੧੦, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਭਏ ਕੇਸਵਾ ਸੇ ਜਨ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਹਿ
suprasann bheae kaesavaa sae jan har gun gaahi ||4||
Those humble beings, with whom the beautifully-haired Lord is thoroughly pleased, sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. ||4||
10 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 203)

Likewise in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, we have demons being killed by Demigoddess are told to be killed by God as mentioned above while in here there are many entities which were as per Hindus helped by demigoddess or gave help to her or were on side are being told to be killed by God so this God could not be demigoddess at all by the same logic.

Then writer crookedly gives one verse from First Chapter of Vachitar Natak and says that as these were killed by demigoddess so Kal means Demigoddess let us see.


ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟਭੰ ਰਾਛਸੇਸੰ ਬਲੀਅੰ ਸਮੈ ਆਪਨੀ ਕਾਲ ਤੇਊ ਦਲੀਅੰ
Madhu Kootabhang raachhsesang balooang|| Samai aapnoo kaal teoo dalooang||
There had been mighty demon-kings like Madhu and Kaitabh, the KAL crushed them on their turn.
Line 10


ਭਏ ਸੁੰਭ ਨੈਸੁੰਭ ਸ੍ਰੋਣੰਤ ਬੀਜੰ ਤੇਊ ਕਾਲ ਕੀਨੇ ਪ੍ਰਰੇਜੰ ਪ੍ਰਰੇਜੰ ੬੪
Bhae Sunbh Naisunbh Sronant Boojang|| Teoo kaal koone purejang purejang||64||
Then there were Sumbah, Nisumbh and Sranavat Beef. They were also chopped into bits by KAL.64.
Line 11
(Vachitar Natak 1.64)

Let us see the next verse after this

ਬਲੀ ਪ੍ਰਿਥੀਅੰ ਮਾਨਧਾਤਾ ਮਹੀਪੰ ਜਿਨੈ ਰਥ ਚੱਕ੍ਰ ਕੀਏ ਸਾਤ ਦੀਪੰ
Baloo Prithooang Maandhaataa mahoopang|| Jinai rath chakkra kooe saat dipang||
The mighty king Prithu and the great sovereign like Mandhata who had demarcated seven continents with his chariot-wheel.
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ਭੁਜੰ ਭੀਮ ਭਰਥੰ ਜਗੰ ਜੀਤਿ ਡੰਡੰਯਾ ਤਿਨੈ ਅੰਤ ਕੇ ਅੰਤ ਕੌ ਕਾਲ ਖੰਡੰਯਾ ੬੫
Bhujang Bhoom Bharathang jagang joot(i) ?an?yang|| Tinai ant ke ant kau kaal khan?yang||65||
The king Bhim and the Bharat, who had conquered and brought the world under their control with the strength of arms. They were all destroyed by KAL, when they were nearing their end.65.
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(Vachitar Natak 1.65)

So did demigoddess killed Prithu,Maandhata, Bhim or Bharat ? No but God of Sikhs did kill them.

Then more about incarnation of Vishnu etc are being told to be killed in here in the same chapter.


ਜਿਨੈ ਦੀਪ ਦੀਪੰ ਦੁਹਾਈ ਫਿਰਾਈ ਭੁਜਾ ਦੰਡ ਦੈ ਛੋਣਿ ਛੱਤ੍ਰੰ ਛਿਨਾਈ
Jinai doop doopang duhaaoo phiraaoo|| Bhujaa dan? dai chhon(i) chhattrang chhinaaoo||
He, who hath created the frightening dominance of His Name. He, who had snatched the earth from the Kshatriyas with the strength of staff-like arms.

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ਕਰੇ ਜੱਗ ਕੋਟੰ ਜਸੰ ਅਨੇਕ ਲੀਤੇ ਵਹੈ ਬੀਰ ਬੰਕੇ ਬਲੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀਤੇ ੬੬
Kare jagg kotang jasang anek loote|| Vahai boor banke baloo kaal joote||66||
He, who had performed millions of Yajnas (sacrifices) and erned multi-faceted approbation. Even that winsome warrior (Parasuram) hath been conquered by KAL.66.

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ਕਈ ਕੋਟ ਲੀਨੇ ਜਿਨੈ ਦੁਰਗ ਢਾਹੇ ਕਿਤੇ ਸੂਰਬੀਰਾਨ ਕੇ ਸੈਨ ਗਾਹੇ
Kaee kot loone jinai durg ?haahe|| Kite soorbooraan ke sain gaahe||
Those who had conquered millions of forts and razed them. Those who had treaded the forces of innumerable warriors.

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ਕਈ ਜੰਗ ਕੀਨੇ ਸੁ ਸਾਕੇ ਪਵਾਰੇ ਵਹੈ ਦੀਨ ਦੇਖੇ ਗਿਰੇ ਕਾਲ ਮਾਰੇ ੬੭
Kaee jang koone su saake pavaare|| Vahai doon dekhe gire kaal maare||67||
Those who had indulged in many wars, events and disputes, I have seen them subdued and killed by KAL.67

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ਜਿਨੈ ਪਾਤਸਾਹੀ ਕਰੀ ਕੋਟ ਜੁਗੰਯਾ ਰਸੰ ਆਨ ਰੱਸੰ ਭਲੀ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭੁਗੰਯਾ
Jinai paatsaahoo karoo kot jugyaaag|| Rasang aanRassang bhaloo bhaant(i) bhugyang||
Those who had ruled for millions of ages, and had enjoyed nicely the pleasures and vicious tastes.

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ਵਹੈ ਅੰਤ ਕੋ ਪਾਵ ਨਾਗੇ ਪਧਾਰੇ ਗਿਰੇ ਦੀਨ ਦੇਖੇ ਹਠੀ ਕਾਲ ਮਾਰੇ ੬੮
Vahai ant ko paav naage padhaare|| Gire doon dekhe hathoo kaal maare||68||
They had ultimately gone with naked feet. I have seen them having been subdued, fallen and killed by the persistent KAL.68.

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ਜਿਨੈ ਖੰਡੀਅੰ ਦੰਡ ਧਾਰੰ ਅਪਾਰੰ ਕਰੇ ਚੰਦ੍ਰਮਾ ਸੂਰ ਚੇਰੇ ਦੁਆਰੰ
Jinai khan?iang dan? dhaarang apaarang|| Kare chandramaa soor chere duaarang||
He, who had destroyed many kings, He, who had enslaved the moon and the sun in his house.

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ਜਿਨੈ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਸੇ ਜੀਤ ਕੈ ਛੋਡ ਡਾਰੇ ਵਹੈ ਦੀਨ ਦੇਖੇ ਗਿਰੇ ਕਾਲ ਮਾਰੇ ੬੯
Jinai Indra se joot kai chho? ?aare|| Vahai doon dekhe gre kaal maare||69||
He (as Ravana), had conquered the god Indra in war and later released him. I have seen (him and Meghnad) being subdued, fallen and killed by KAL.69.

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ਰਸਾਵਲ ਛੰਦ
Rasaaval Chhand||
RASAAVAL STANZA

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ਜਿਤੇ ਰਾਮ ਹੂਏ ਸਭੈ ਅੰਤ ਮੂਏ
Jite Raam hooe|| Sabhai ant mooe||
All the Ramas who incarnated, ultimately passed away.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹ੍ਵੈਹੈਂ ਸਭੈ ਅੰਤ ਜੈਹੈਂ ੭੦
Jite Krisan hvaihain|| Sabhai ant jaihain||70||
All the Krishnas, who had incarnated, have all passed away.70.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਦੇਵ ਹੋਸੀ ਸਭੇ ਅੰਤ ਜਾਸੀ
Jite dev hosoo|| Sabhe ant jaasoo||
All the gods who will come into being in future, they will all ultimately expire.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਬੋਧ ਹ੍ਵੈਹੈਂ ਸਭੈ ਅੰਤ ਛੈਹੈਂ ੭੧
Jite bodh hvaihain|| Sabhai ant chhaihain||71||
Alll the Buddhas, who came into being, expired ultimately.71.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਦਈਤ ਏਸੰ ਸਭੈ ਅੰਤ ਜਾਯੰ
Jite dev raayang|| Sabhai ant jaayang||
All the god-kings, who came into being, ultimately passed away.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਦਈਤ ਏਸੰ ਤਿਤਿਓ ਕਾਲ ਲੇਸੰ ੭੨
Jite daoot esang|| Titio kaal lesang||72||
All the demon-kings, who came into being, they were all destroyed by KAL.72.

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ਨਰਸਿੰਘਾਵਤਾਰੰ ਵਹੈ ਕਾਲ ਮਾਰੰ
Narsinghaavtaarang|| Vahai kaal maarang||
The incarnation Narsingh was also killed by KAL.

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ਬਡੋ ਡੰਡ ਧਾਰੀ ਹਣਿਓ ਕਾਲ ਭਾਰੀ ੭੩
Ba?o ?un? dhaaroo|| Hanio kaal bhaaroo||73||
The incarnation with grinder teeth (i.e. Boar) was killed by mighty KAL.73.

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ਦਿਜੈ ਬਾਵਨੇਯੰ ਹਣਿਓ ਕਾਲ ਤੇਯੰ
Dijai baavaneyang|| Hanio kaal teyang||
Vaman, the Brahmin incarnation, was killed by KAL.

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ਮਹਾ ਮੱਛ ਮੁੰਡੰ ਫਧਿਓ ਕਾਲ ਝੁੰਡੰ ੭੪
Mahaa machchh mun?ang|| Phadhio kaal jhun?ang||74||
The Fish incarnation of spatious mouth, was entrapped by KAL.74.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਹੋਇ ਬੀਤੇ ਤਿਤੇ ਕਾਲ ਜੀਤੇ
Jite hoe boote|| Tite kaal joote||
All those who had come into being, they were all conquered by KAL.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਸਰਨਿ ਜੈਹੈਂ ਤਿਤਿਓ ਰਾਖ ਲੈਹੈਂ ੭੫
Jite saran(i) jaihain|| Titio raakh laihain||75||
Those who will go under His Refuge, they will all be saved by him.75.

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Page 45- he again tries to prove that kal and Akal are different but without any proof.

Page 47- he tries to remove the initial lines on creation and talks of illogical thing of making creation with wax of ear. Well we have egg being told to create creation in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. A fraud of Kala Afghana is repeated over here.




ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaoo||
CHAUPAI
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ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਕਾਲ ਜਬ ਕਰਾ ਪਸਾਰਾ ਓਅੰਕਾਰ ਤੇ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟ ਉਪਾਰਾ
Pritham kaal jab karaa pasaaraa|| Oankaar te srist upaaraa||
In the beginning, when KAL created the world, it was brought into being by Aumkara (the One Lord).
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ਕਾਲਸੈਣ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਭਇਓ ਭੂਪਾ ਅਧਿਕ ਅਤੁਲ ਬਲਿ ਰੂਪ ਅਨੂਪਾ ੧੦
Kaalsain prithmai bhaeo bhoopaa|| Adhik atul bal(i) roop anoopaa||10||
Kal sain was the first king, who was of immeasurable strength and supreme beauty.10.
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ਕਾਲਕੇਤ ਦੂਸਰ ਭੂਅ ਭਯੋ ਕ੍ਰੂਰ ਬਰਸ ਤੀਸਰ ਜਗ ਠਯੋ
Kaalket doosar bhooa bhayo|| Kroor baras toosar jag thayo||
Kalket became the second king and Kurabaras, the third.
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ਕਾਲਧੁਜ ਚਤੁਰਥ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਸੋਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਤੇ ਭਇਓ ਜਗਤ ਸਭ ਕੋ ਹੈ ੧੧
Kaaldhuj chaturath nrip sohai|| Jih te bhaeo jagat sabh ko hai||11||
Kaldhuj was the fourth kin, from whon the whole world originated. 11.
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ਸਹਸਰਾਛ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਸੁਭ ਸੋਹੈਂ ਸਹਸ ਪਾਦ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਤਨ ਮੋ ਹੈਂ
Sahasraachh jaa ke subh sohain|| Sahas paad jaa ke tan mo hain||
He had a thousand eyes a thousand feet.
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ਸੇਖਨਾਗ ਪਰ ਸੋਇਬੋ ਕਰੈ ਜਗ ਤਹਿ ਸੇਖਸਾਇ ਉਚਰੈ ੧੨
Sekhnaag par soebo karai|| Jag tah(i) Sekhsaae uchrai||12||
He slept on Sheshanaga, therefore he was called the master of Shesha.12.
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ਏਕ ਸ੍ਰਵਣ ਤੇ ਮੈਲ ਨਿਕਾਰਾ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟਭ ਤਨ ਧਾਰਾ
Ek sravan te mail nikaaraa|| Taa te Madhu kootabh tan dhaaraa||
Out of the secretion from one of his ears, Madhu and Kaitabh came into being.
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ਦੁਤੀਯ ਕਾਨ ਤੇ ਮੈਲੁ ਨਿਕਾਰੀ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਭਈ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਇਹ ਸਾਰੀ ੧੩
Dutooya kaan te mail(u) nikaaroo|| Taa te bhaoo sristtee ih saaroo||13||
And from the secretion of the other ear, the whole world materialized.13.
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ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਕਾਲ ਬਹੁਰ ਬਧ ਕਰਾ ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਮੋਦ ਸਮੁੰਦ ਮੋ ਪਰਾ
Tin ko kaal bahur badh karaa|| Tin ko med samund mo paraa||
After some period, the Lord killed the demons (Madhu and Kaitabh). Their marrow flowed into the ocean.
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ਚਿਕਨ ਤਾਸ ਜਲ ਪਰ ਤਿਰ ਰਹੀ ਮੇਧਾ ਨਾਮ ਤਬਹਿ ਤੇ ਕਹੀ ੧੪
Chikan taas jal par tir rahoo|| Medhaa naam tabah(i) te kahoo||14||
The greasy substance floated thereon, because of that medital (marrow), the earth was called medha (or medani).14.
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(Vachitar Natak Chapter 2.10-14)

While writer starts with concealing verses inbetween vide.

ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਕਾਲ ਜਬ ਕਰਾ ਪਸਾਰਾ
Pritham kaal jab karaa pasaaraa||
In the beginning, when KAL created the world,
….
ਏਕ ਸ੍ਰਵਣ ਤੇ ਮੈਲ ਨਿਕਾਰਾ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟਭ ਤਨ ਧਾਰਾ
Ek sravan te mail nikaaraa|| Taa te Madhu kootabh tan dhaaraa||
Out of the secretion from one of his ears, Madhu and Kaitabh came into being.

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This is a case of forgery as we are told that Kal created the universe with Oangkar.

Reason of talking of Medha is to let us understand that why earth is told as Medini.

(੫੪੨-, ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ, )
ਆਵਣੁ ਜਾਣਾ ਤਿਨਹਿ ਕੀਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਮੇਦਨਿ ਸਿਰਜੀਆ
aavan th jaanaa thinehi keeaa jin maedhan sirajeeaa ||
The One who fashioned the world causes them to come and go.
1 Bihaagrhaa Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 542)
There are still many a places in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, where term Medini is used for earth.

Then about egg, in creation.


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਆਪੇ ਸਚੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਰ ਜੋੜਿ
aapae sach keeaa kar jorr ||
The True Lord Himself created the universe, joining the elements together.
4 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਅੰਡਜ ਫੋੜਿ ਜੋੜਿ ਵਿਛੋੜਿ
anddaj forr jorr vishhorr ||
Breaking the cosmic egg, He united, and separated.
5 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਧਰਤਿ ਅਕਾਸੁ ਕੀਏ ਬੈਸਣ ਕਉ ਥਾਉ
dhharath akaas keeeae baisan ko thhaao ||
He made the earth and the sky into places to live.
5 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਰਾਤਿ ਦਿਨੰਤੁ ਕੀਏ ਭਉ ਭਾਉ
raath dhinanth keeeae bho bhaao ||
He created day and night, fear and love.
5 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖਣਹਾਰਾ
jin keeeae kar vaekhanehaaraa ||
The One who created the Creation, also watches over it.
5 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਅਵਰੁ ਦੂਜਾ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰਾ
avar n dhoojaa sirajanehaaraa ||3||
There is no other Creator Lord. ||3||
6 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 839)

Akal created universe many times and there could be as many ways Akal wants creation to occur and Akal is not bounded by any rules of science and in fact could change the theory of the same. But yes people with atheist ideology do not agree to it.


(੨੭੫-੧੧, ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਰਚਨਾ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਰਚੀ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਅਨਿਕ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ
naanak rachanaa prabh rachee bahu bidhh anik prakaar ||1||
O Nanak, God created the creation, with its many ways and various species. ||1||
11 Gaurhee Sukhmanee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 275)
Page 54-55, he talks of Hemkunt Parvat and says that Tenth Master never visited there. So what Tenth Master never visited Darbar Sahib Ji of Amritsar also. He says that as per a verse in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji(Ang 450), where only Guru goes that could be a Gurudham. Strange, he is not beholding Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as Guru which is already there in Shri Hemkunt Sahib. Like a communist he abuses Sikhs going there.

This in fact proves the lack of understanding of the Gurmat as per writer as he sees importance of place by visiting of Guru with Body, while our Guru is Body less as that one is in all bodies. So no pilgrimage anywhere in Sikhism. All places are holy. Only inspiration from the places related to Sikhism could be drawn while visiting them. Hemkunt episode is way to tell the state of mind.

ਤਹ ਹਮ ਅਧਿਕ ਤਪੱਸਿਆ ਸਾਧੀ ਮਹਾਕਾਲ ਕਾਲਿਕਾ ਅਰਾਧੀ
Tah ham adhik tapassiaa saadhoo|| Mahaakaal Kaalikaa araadhoo||2||
There I was absorbed in deep meditation on the Primal Power, the Supreme KAL.2.
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The Mahakal, who is Kalika was Ardhya(to be worshiped/ie Aradhi in Ampbransha or slang) that is then a lot of meditation done by me. We could have Rashtri from Rashtriya or national in the same way.
Page 62: Here we are told that Kal means demigoddess which is untrue.
Page 73: Here writer says that as per Shiv Purana we have half lady and half male for of Shiv and Parwati vide this.

ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਹੈ ਪਿਤਾ ਅਪਾਰਾ ਦੇਬਿ ਕਾਲਿਕਾ ਮਾਤ ਹਮਾਰਾ
Sarab kaal hai pitaa apaaraa|| Deb(i) Kaalikaa maat hamaaraa||
He, my Lord is Father and Destroyer of all, the goddess Kalika is my mother.
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And as the left side of this form is goddess so this is the work of left side worshipper or Vam Margi.

This is height of lack of knowledge on the part of writer.

Vam Marga has nothing to do with worshipping the left side as such. Then what about Vam Margi Shavite or Kapaliks or what about Vam Margi Buddhists or Vajryanis as both do not worship demigoddess as such. Then what about Dakshin Margi Shaktas or demigoddess worshippers? What about Dakshin Margi shaivtes.

Fact is vam marg is meant by left hand drive of difficult way and Dakshin Margis is right hand drive or easy way.

Let us only discuss the Shakta or demigoddess worshippers.

The Dakshin Marg is new and their main demigoddess is Vaishno devi, worshiper does not drink alcohol or eat meat and celibacy is encouraged(Nine form of Durga) while in Vam marg Mahakali is man demigoddess and total of Ten super knowledge or forms of demigoddess and meat, alcohol and sex is part of worship. Their motto is to get their deity while in vices.

In Vamamrg name of Shiv is Vamdev and Kali’s name is Dakshinadevi(refer Dash Mahvidya,Tantra Mahashashtra by Tantracharya Pandit Rajesh Dikshit.


Then coming to Shiv Purana
He see that as per details given before we find that Hari(Vishnu and Shiva are one and the same)
Harihar Shiv Purana second Rudra Sanhita first Srishtikhand chapter 10.

So by this should we deem these lines of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji taken from Shiv Purana ?


(੧੬੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ ਮਹਲਾ
gourree bairaagan mehalaa 3 ||
Gauree Bairaagan, Third Mehl:
7 null null


(੧੬੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਹਰਿ ਤਤੁ ਬੀਚਾਰਾ
sathigur thae giaan paaeiaa har thath beechaaraa ||
From the True Guru, I obtained spiritual wisdom; I contemplate the Lord's essence.
7 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Amar Das


(੧੬੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਮਤਿ ਮਲੀਣ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਭਈ ਜਪਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੁਰਾਰਾ
math maleen paragatt bhee jap naam muraaraa ||
My polluted intellect was enlightened by chanting the Naam, the Name of the Lord.
8 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Amar Das


(੧੬੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਸਿਵਿ ਸਕਤਿ ਮਿਟਾਈਆ ਚੂਕਾ ਅੰਧਿਆਰਾ
siv sakath mittaaeeaa chookaa andhhiaaraa ||
The distinction between Shiva and Shakti - mind and matter - has been destroyed, and the darkness has been dispelled.
8 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Amar Das


(੧੬੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਧੁਰਿ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਜਿਨ ਕਉ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਤਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਿਆਰਾ
dhhur masathak jin ko likhiaa thin har naam piaaraa ||1||
The Lord's Name is loved by those, upon whose foreheads such pre-ordained destiny was written. ||1||
8 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Amar Das


(੧੬੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਹਰਿ ਕਿਤੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਸੰਤ ਜਨਹੁ ਜਿਸੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਹਉ ਜੀਵਾ
har kith bidhh paaeeai santh janahu jis dhaekh ho jeevaa ||
How can the Lord be obtained, O Saints? Seeing Him, my life is sustained.
9 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Amar Das


(੧੬੩-੧੦, ਗਉੜੀ ਬੈਰਾਗਣਿ, )
ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਚਸਾ ਜੀਵਤੀ ਗੁਰ ਮੇਲਿਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪੀਵਾ ਰਹਾਉ
har bin chasaa n jeevathee gur maelihu har ras peevaa ||1|| rehaao ||
Without the Lord, I cannot live, even for an instant. Unite me with the Guru, so that I may drink in the sublime essence of the Lord. ||1||Pause||
10 Gaurhee Bairaagan Guru Amar Das
(Ang 163)

Term Shiv has a Siahri so Shiv(i) means by Shiv(God ) Shakti(Mammon) is erased.


(੧੨੦੧-੧੫, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਸਾਰਗ ਮਹਲਾ
saarag mehalaa 4 ||
Saarang, Fourth Mehl:
15 null null


(੧੨੦੧-੧੫, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਜਪਿ ਮਨ ਨਿਰਭਉ
jap man nirabho ||
O my mind, meditate on the Fearless Lord,
15 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੬, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਸਤਿ ਸਤਿ ਸਦਾ ਸਤਿ
sath sath sadhaa sath ||
who is True, True, Forever True.
16 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੬, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ
niravair akaal moorath ||
He is free of vengeance, the Image of the Undying,
16 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੬, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਆਜੂਨੀ ਸੰਭ
aajoonee sanbho ||
beyond birth, Self-existent.
16 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੬, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਅਨਦਿਨ+ ਧਿਆਇ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰੀ ਰਹਾਉ
maerae man anadhinuo dhhiaae nirankaar niraahaaree ||1|| rehaao ||
O my mind, meditate night and day on the Formless, Self-sustaining Lord. ||1||Pause||
16 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੭, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਹਰਿ ਦਰਸਨ ਕਉ ਹਰਿ ਦਰਸਨ ਕਉ ਕੋਟਿ ਕੋਟਿ ਤੇਤੀਸ ਸਿਧ ਜਤੀ ਜੋਗੀ ਤਟ ਤੀਰਥ ਪਰਭਵਨ ਕਰਤ ਰਹਤ ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰੀ
har dharasan ko har dharasan ko kott kott thaethees sidhh jathee jogee thatt theerathh parabhavan karath rehath niraahaaree ||
For the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan, for the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan, the three hundred thirty million gods, and millions of Siddhas, celibates and Yogis make their pilgrimages to sacred shrines and rivers, and go on fasts.
17 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੮, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਤਿਨ ਜਨ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਥਾਇ ਪਈ ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕਉ ਕਿਰਪਾਲ ਹੋਵਤੁ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ
thin jan kee saevaa thhaae pee jinh ko kirapaal hovath banavaaree ||1||
The service of the humble person is approved, unto whom the Lord of the World shows His Mercy. ||1||
18 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੯, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਹੋ ਸੰਤ ਭਲੇ ਤੇ ਊਤਮ ਭਗਤ ਭਲੇ ਜੋ ਭਾਵਤ ਹਰਿ ਰਾਮ ਮੁਰਾਰੀ
har kae ho santh bhalae thae ootham bhagath bhalae jo bhaavath har raam muraaree ||
They alone are the good Saints of the Lord, the best and most exalted devotees, who are pleasing to their Lord.
19 Sarang Guru Ram Das


(੧੨੦੧-੧੯, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕਾ ਅੰਗੁ ਕਰੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕੀ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਪੈਜ ਸਵਾਰੀ ੧੧
jinh kaa ang karai maeraa suaamee thinh kee naanak har paij savaaree ||2||4||11||
Those who have my Lord and Master on their side - O Nanak, the Lord saves their honor. ||2||4||11||
19 Sarang Guru Ram Das
(Ang 1201)

Here again term Sambhu which is used for Shiv is used and Terms used for Vishnu are used. As none of the above tells of Puranic gods but tell that all attributive names belong to Gods of Sikhs, so is the case of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.

The term Ardh Narishvar comes in this part ie.

Third Shat Rudra Sanhita Chapter 3, Shiv comes into form of half lady and half man and then seprates lady and give blessing to Brahma who was doing tap for that.

Here Brahma wants female for reproduction so he worships Shiv with devi in Shiv heart. Shiv comes out in form of Devi, then separates her into full demigoddess which gives blessing to Brahma, and creates another devi out of her who is born into the house of Daksha. Then both Shiv and Devi get Vanished.

This is Shiv Purana which is mostly in prase of demigod Shiv and Shiv is told as one who made devi emrged out of him.

We see what we are told about of him in Vachitar Natak.

Page 98, Line 2


ਸਿਰੰ ਮਾਲ ਰਾਜੰ ਲਖੇ ਰੁਦ੍ਰ ਲਾਜੰ
Sirang maal raajang|| Lakhe Rudra laajang||
The rosary of heads glorified his neck, seeing which the god Shiva feels abashed.
1.22


ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਭਯੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਸਿਵ ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਭਯੋ ਜੁਗੀਆ ਹੈ
Kaal hoo paae bhayo Brahmaa Siv kaal hoo paae bhayo jugooaa hai||
At the instance of KAL, Brahma appeared and also at the instance of KAL the Yogi Shiva appeared.
Line 1
1.84


ਮਹਾਦੇਵ ਅਚੁੱਤ ਕਹਾਯੋ ਬਿਸਨ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਕੋ ਠਹਿਰਾਯੋ
Mahaadev achutt kahnyo|| Bisan aap hoo ko thahiraayo||
Mahadeo (Shiva) was called Achyuta (blotless), Vishnu considered himself the Supreme.
Line 4


ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ
Brahmaa aap Paarbrahm bakhaanaa|| Prabh ko Prabhoo na kinhoon jaanaa||8||
Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.
Line 5
6.8

So by this Shiva is negated here.
Anyway for same black we have chapter 1 having Vamdev. Chapter 17 having 10 Avtars of Shiva for Dashm Mahvidya of Tantra but here Shiva is told higher then demigoddess.,Chapter-18 has incarnations of 11rudras.

Fifth Uam Sanhita Chapter 45 to 51 has story overlapping with Devi Mahmatya of Markandey Purana yet story of why Durga name was given for killing Durg demon is not in many versions of Markandya Purana.

Yet we are told for idol worshipping, in these chapters we see devi talking about self with attributes similar to God of Sikhs but same could be true with Krishna when he too talks about himself apparently in Geeta part of Mahabharata but that does not wean Sikh away from deeming name of Krishna as for Akal Purakh in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. We are told about idol worshipping in this part.

What does Vachitar Nataks says ?
ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜਪਿਓ ਅਰੁ ਸੰਭੁ ਥਪਿਓ ਤਿਹ ਤੇ ਤੁਹਿ ਕੋ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਬਚਾਯੋ
Brahm japio ar(u) sanbh(u) thapio tih te tuh(i) ko kinhoon na bachaayo||
Thou hast recited the name of Brahma and established Shivalingam, even then none could save thee.
Line 2
1.97



ਪਖਾਣ ਪੂਜ ਹੋਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਭੇਖ ਭੀਜ ਹੋ ਕਹੀਂ
Pakhaan pooj hon nahoon|| Na bhekh bhooj ho kahoon||
I do not worship stones, nor I have any liking for a particular guise.
Line 8
6.35

So writers talking to join the verse of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji to Shiv Purana and Ardhnarishvar Rupa is just the fiction of his imagination.

So meaning of the lines should be .

Death of all, is limitless father.(Same) as mammon(demigoddess Kalika) makes us intoxicated/becomes mother of ego.

Term Hamara is masculine gender. Mat Hamara. Had it been Maat Hamari, then some lady could have been there with feminine gender.

Page 74-79-here writer tries to prove that as one line comes into our Arti ie say the true name. There it should be deemed as seven hundred names of Durga or Durga Shaptsati.

Let us see Chandi Charitar first.

Initially who is praised ?

Page 175, Line 4


ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ

NAME OF THE BANI.

Page 175, Line 5


ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ
Ik Oankaar Waheguroo joo koo Fateh||
The Lord is one and the Victory is of the Lord.

Page 175, Line 6


ਅਥ ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਉਕਤਿ ਬਿਲਾਸ
Ath Chan?oo charitra Ukat(i) Bilaas||
New begin the extraordinary feats from the Life of Chandi:

Page 175, Line 7


ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ
Swaiyaa||
SWAYYA

Page 175, Line 8


ਆਦਿ ਅਪਾਰ ਅਲੇਖ ਅਨੰਤ ਅਕਾਲ ਅਭੇਖ ਅਲੱਖ ਅਨਾਸਾ
aadh apaar alekh anant akaal abhekh alakkh anaasaa||
The Lord is Primal, Infinite, Account less, Boundless, Deathless, Garbless, Incomprehensible and Eternal.

Page 175, Line 9


ਕੈ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤ ਦਏ ਸ੍ਰੁਤਿ ਚਾਰ ਰਜੋ ਤਮ ਸੱਤ ਤਿਹੂ ਪੁਰ ਬਾਸਾ
Kai Siv sakat dae srut(i) chaar rajo tam satt tihoo pur baasaa||
He created Shiva-Shakti, forur Vedas and three modes of maya and Pervades in three worlds.

Page 175, Line 10


ਦਿਉਸ ਨਿਸਾ ਸਸਿ ਸੂਰ ਕੈ ਦੀਪ ਸੁ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਰਚੀ ਪੰਚ ਤੱਤ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਾ
Dius nisaa sas(i) soor kai doop su sristtee rachoo panch tatt prakaasaa||
He created day and night, the lamps of sun and moon and the whole world with five elements.

Page 175, Line 11


ਬੈਰ ਬਢਾਇ ਲਰਾਇ ਸੁਰਾਸੁਰ ਆਪਹਿ ਦੇਖਤ ਬੈਠ ਤਮਾਸਾ
Bir ba?haae laraae suraasur aapah(i) dekhat baith tamaasaa||1||
He extended enmity and fight between the gods and demons and Himself seated (on His Throne) scans it.1.

Page 175, Line 12


But things do not end here. Guru tells that these are the story of his previous life

ਜਿਹ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਮੈ ਲਖੇ ਤਮਾਸਾ ਚਾਹਤ ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਕੀਯੋ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਾ
Jih jih bidh mai lakhe tamaasaa|| Chaahat tin ko kooo prakaasaa||
The kinds of spectacles that I have seen, I want to enlighten (the world) about them.

Page 174, Line 1


ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਨਮ ਪੂਰਬਲੇ ਹੇਰੇ ਕਹਿਹੋ ਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਰਾਕ੍ਰਮ ਤੇਰੇ
Jo jo janam poorbale bere|| Kahiho su Prabh(u) praakram tere||4||
All the past lives that have peeped into, I shall speak about them with Thy Power.4.

Page 174, Line 2


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਹੈ ਪਿਤਾ ਅਪਾਰਾ ਦੇਬਿ ਕਾਲਿਕਾ ਮਾਤ ਹਮਾਰਾ
Sarab kaal hai pitaa apaaraa|| Deb(i) Kaalikaa maat hamaaraa||
He, my Lord is Father and Destroyer of all, the goddess Kalika is my mother.

Page 174, Line 3


ਮਨੂਆ ਗੁਰ ਮੁਰਿ ਮਨਸਾ ਮਾਈ ਜਿਨ ਮੋ ਕੋ ਸੁਭ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਪੜ੍ਹਾਈ
Manooaa gur mur(i) mansaa maaoo|| Jin mo ko subh kriaa pa?haaoo||5||
The mind is my Guru and the discriminating intellect, the Guru’s wife is my mother, who hath taught me all about good deeds.5.

Page 174, Line 4


ਜਬ ਮਨਸਾ ਮਨ ਮਯਾ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਮਨੂਆ ਕਹ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਸੁਧਾਰੀ
Jab mansaa man mayaa bichaaroo|| Gur manooaa kah kahiyo sudhaaroo||
When I (as mind) reflected on the kindness of the discriminating intellect, the Guru0mind uttered his refined statement.

Page 174, Line 5


ਜੇ ਜੇ ਚਰਿਤ ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਨਹੇ ਤੇ ਤੇ ਅਬ ਚਹੀਅਤ ਹੈ ਕਹੇ
Je je charit puraatan lahe|| Te te ab chahooat hai kahe||6||
All the wonderful things that were comprehended by the ancient sages, I want to speak about all of them.6.

Page 174, Line 6


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਕਰਣਾ ਤਬ ਭਰੇ ਸੇਵਕ ਜਾਨ ਦਯਾ ਰਸ ਢਰੇ
Sarab kaal karnaa tab bhare|| Sevak jaan dayaa ras ?hare||
Then my Lord, Destroyer of all, was filled with kindness and considering me as His servant, He was gracefully pleased.

Page 174, Line 7


ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਨਮ ਪੂਰਬਲੋ ਭਯੋ ਸੋ ਸੋ ਸਭ ਸਿਮਰਣ ਕਰ ਦਯੋ
Jo jo janam poorbalo bhayo|| So so sabh simran kar dayo||7||
The births of all the incarnations in the previous ages, He hath caused me to remember all of them.7.

Page 174, Line 8


ਮੋ ਕੌ ਇਤੀ ਹੁਤੀ ਕਹ ਸੁੱਧੰ ਜਸ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦਈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਿ ਬੁੱਧੰ
Mo kau itoo hutoo kah suddhang|| Jas Prabh daoo kripaa kar(i) buddhang||
How could I have all this information? The Lord mercifully gave such intellect.

Page 174, Line 9


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਤਬ ਭਏ ਦਇਆਲਾ ਲੋਹ ਰਛ ਹਮ ਕੋ ਸਬ ਕਾਲਾ
Sarab kaal tab bhae daiaalaa|| Loh rachh ham ko sab kaalaa||8||
My Lord, the Destroyer of all, then became Benevolent, At all times, I gave the Protection of at that steel-incarnated Lord.8.

Page 174, Line 10


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਰੱਛਾ ਸਬ ਕਾਲ ਲੋਹ ਰੱਛ ਸਰਬਦਾ ਬਿਸਾਲ
Sarab kaal rachchhaa sab kaal|| Loh rachchh sarbadaa bisaal||
At all times, Lord, Destroyer of all, protects me. That All-Pervading Lord is my Protector like Steel.

Page 174, Line 11


ਢੀਠ ਭਯੋ ਤਵ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਲਖਾਈ ਐਂਡੋ ਫਿਰੋ ਸਭਨ ਭਯੋ ਰਾਈ
?hooth bhayo tav kripaa lakhaaoo|| Ain?o phiro sabhan bhayo raaoo||9||
Comprehending Thy Kindness, I have become fearless and in my pride, I consider myself as the king of all. 9.

Page 174, Line 12


ਜਿਹ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਜਨਮਨ ਸੁਧਿ ਆਈ ਤਿਮ ਤਿਮ ਕਹੇ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਬਨਾਈ
Jih jih bidh janman sudh(i0 aaoo|| Tim tim kahe giranth bannoo||
The way in which I came to know about the births of incarnations, in the same manner, I have rendered them in books.

Page 174, Line 13


ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਲਹਾ ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਦੇਬਿ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਕੋ ਕਹਾ ੧੦
Prathme satijug jih bidh(i) lahaa|| Prathme deb(i) charitra ko kahaa||10||
The way, in which I came to know about Satyuga, I have narrated it in the first poem of the miraculous feats of the goddess.10.

Page 174, Line 14

ਪਹਿਲੇ ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਬਨਾਯੋ ਨਖ ਸਿਖ ਤੇ ਕ੍ਰਮ ਭਾਖ ਸੁਨਾਯੋ
Pahile Chan?oo charitra banaayo|| Nakh sikh te kram bhaakh sunaayo||
The miraculous feats of goddess Chandi have been composed earlier, I have compsed (the same) in strict order from top to toe.

Page 175, Line 1


ਛੋਰ ਕਥਾ ਤਬ ਪ੍ਰਥਮ ਸੁਨਾਈ ਅਬ ਚਾਹਤ ਫਿਰਿ ਕਰੋਂ ਬਡਾਈ ੧੧
Chhor kathaa tab pratham sunaaoo|| Ab chaahat phir(i) karon ba?aaoo||11||
In the beginning I composed a comprehensive discourse, but now I want again to compose an Eulogy.11.

Page 175, Line 2
14.4 to 14.10 Vachitar Natak

Likewise in same text we find Guru’s being one with Akal(Mahakal Kalika)


ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਕਰਤ ਤਪਸਿਆ ਭਯੋ ਦ੍ਵੈ ਤੇ ਏਕ ਰੂਪ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਗਯੋ
Ih bidh(i) karat tapasiaa bhayo|| Dvai te ek roop hvai gayo||
In this way, my meditation reached its zenith and I became One with the Omnipotent Lord.
Line 6


ਤਾਤ ਮਾਤ ਮੁਰ ਅਲਖ ਅਰਾਧਾ ਬਹੂ ਬਿਧਿ ਜੋਗ ਸਾਧਨਾ ਸਾਧਾ
Taat maat muralakh araadhaa|| Bahu bidh(i) jog saadhnaa saadhaa||3||
My parents also meditated for the union with the Incomprehensible Lord and performed many types of disciplines for union.3.
Line 7
6.3

Over here we need to understand that Tat MatMu.. should be held as I worshipped invisible God, who is my mother and father.


So Guru was one with Akal.

Likewise we find another thing in the same Chandi Charitar.

Ie.

ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰਨ ਕੇ ਨਮਿਤ ਕਾਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਇਹ ਲੀਨ
Dait sanghaaran ke namit kaal janam(u) eh leen||
It seemed that Death itself had taken the birth to destroy the demons.
Line 5

ਸਿੰਘ ਚੰਡ ਬਾਹਨ ਭਇਓ ਸਤ੍ਰਨ ਕਉ ਦੁਖੁ ਦੀਨ ੨੫
Singh Chan? baahan bhaio satran kau dukh(u) doon||25||
The lion, who causes great suffering to the enemies, became the vehicle of the goddess Chandi.25.

Page 182, Line 6

1.25 The First Chandi Charitar. Here Kal is not death but God.who took form of demigoddess. God did take form of Krishna once

(੬੦੬-੧੬, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਆਪੇ ਗੋਪੀ ਕਾਨੁ ਹੈ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਬਨਿ ਆਪੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਹਾ
aapae gopee kaan hai piaaraa ban aapae goo charaahaa ||
The Beloved Himself is the milk-maid and Krishna; He Himself herds the cows in the woods.
16 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੬, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਆਪੇ ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਆਪੇ ਵੰਸੁ ਵਜਾਹਾ
aapae saaval sundharaa piaaraa aapae vans vajaahaa ||
The Beloved Himself is the blue-skinned, handsome one; He Himself plays on His flute.
16 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੭, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਕੁਵਲੀਆ ਪੀੜੁ ਆਪਿ ਮਰਾਇਦਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਕਰਿ ਬਾਲਕ ਰੂਪਿ ਪਚਾਹਾ
kuvaleeaa peerr aap maraaeidhaa piaaraa kar baalak roop pachaahaa ||2||
The Beloved Himself took the form of a child, and destroyed Kuwalia-peer, the mad elephant. ||2||
17 Sorith Guru Ram Das
(Ang 606)

So Sati is for truth as it is on Ang 1 in Sat(i)Nam(u) of Mool Mantra. And not seven


(੨੮੫-, ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ, )
ਨਾਮੁ ਸਤਿ ਸਤਿ ਧਿਆਵਨਹਾਰ
naam sath sath dhhiaavanehaar ||
His Naam is True, and True are those who meditate on it.
7 Gaurhee Sukhmanee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 285)

Here name is not of Durga but of God of Sikhs



ਤੀਨ ਲੋਕ ਜੈ ਜੈ ਕਰੈ ਰਰੈ ਨਾਮ ਸਤਿ ਜਾਪ ੫੬
Toon lok jai jai karai rarai naam sat(i) jaap||56||
All the there worlds are rejoicing and the sound of the recitation of True Name is being heard.56.
Line 9
1.56 First Chandi Charitar,

As this singing the true name is part of whole story which writer claims is seven hundred names then how could be within that story, the whole story could be sung as large part of the story happens succeeding this part. This is absurd logic of late Ambala Ji.

It is like a person learning A to Z, tells the story of his learning A to Z at the stage where he has just learn A to M and his learning M to Z is yet to start even.

Page 99- he cribs that Shiva stands for Demigoddess.

ਦੇਹ ਸਿਵਾ ਬਰ ਮੋਹਿ ਇਹੈ ਸੁਭ ਕਰਮਨ ਤੇ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਟਰੋਂ
Deh Sivaa bar mob(i) ihai subh karman te kab-hoon na taron||
O Goddess, grant me this that I may not hesitate from performing good actions.
Line 4

1.231 First Chandi Chairtar

Here writer tries to say that Shiva is demigoddess.

Lest us see. In chapter 7 of Second Chandi Charitar we have term Brahma Kavach written which is meant by armour of God in manifested form.

ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaoo||
CHAUPAI

Page 285, Line 5


ਉਸਤਤ ਸਭਹੂੰ ਕਰੀ ਅਪਾਰਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਵਚ ਕੋ ਜਾਪ ਉਚਾਰਾ
Ustat sabh-hoon karoo apaaraa|| Brahm kavach ko jaap uchaaraa||
All of them extremely eulogized the goddess and repeated the mantra known as “Brahm-Kavach”.

Page 285, Line 6


ਸੰਤ ਸੰਬੂਹ ਪ੍ਰਫੁੱਲਤ ਭਏ ਦੁਸਟ ਅਰਿਸਟ ਨਾਸ ਹੁਐ ਗਏ ੨੨੧
Sant sanbooh praphullat bhae|| Dust arist naas huai gae||2||221||
All the saints were pleased because the tyrants have been destroyed.2.221.

Page 285, Line 7
7.2 Second Chandi Charitar.

We have Shiva mentioned over here as


ਨਮੋ ਕਾਰਤਿਕਯਾਨੀ ਸਿਵਾ ਸੀਤਲਾਯੰ ੧੦੨੨੯
Namo kaartikyaanoo sivaa sootalaayang||10||229||
Thou art the power of Kartikeya and Shiva etc.! I salute thee.10.229.
Line 10
7.10 Second Chandi Charitar.

Same Entity is termed further as all pervading and formless in same Brahm Kavach


ਨਮੋ ਰੂੜੂ ਗੂੜ੍ਹੰ ਨਮੋ ਸਰਬ ਬਿਆਪੀ
Namo roo?h goo?hang namo sarab biaapoo||
Thou art most prodfound, omnipresent,

Page 289, Line 1


7.15 Second Chandi Charitar.


ਅਜੇਯੰ ਅਭੇਯੰ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਨਿਤਯੰ
Ajeyang abheyang nirankaar nityang||
Thou art unconquerable, indistinguishable, formless, eternal;

Page 294, Line 3


ਨਿਰੂਪੰ ਨ੍ਰਿਬਾਣੰ ਨਿਮਿਤਯੰ ਅਕਿਤਯੰ ੩੩੨੫੨
Niroopang nripaanang nimityang akityang||33||252||
Shapeless and the cause of nirvana (salvation) and all the works.33.252.

Page 294, Line 4
7.33 Second Chandi Charitar

If some one says that demigoddess is told to be formless by her worshipper then some could say that as per Shrimad bhagvat Purana Vishnu is termed formless and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is work not for God of Sikhs but Vishnu, then he wrong the way one is wrong in calling formless God being told manifesting as devi in the text which Tenth Master wrote.

Then let us talk of Sat Sai.





ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਤਿ ਸਇਆ ਕੋ ਕਰਿਓ ਜਾ ਸਮ ਅਵਰ ਕੋਇ
Granth sat(i) saiaa ko kario jaa sam avar na koe||
I have translated the book named Satsayya (a poem of seven hundred shalokas), which hath nothing equal to it.
Line 13
1.233 First Chandi Charitar.

Here writer tries to prove that Sat sayya is to do with Durga Saptshati. It is again funny of his limited knowledge. In Hindi this is type of poetry and we have one Sat Sayyai from poet Bihari with nothing to do with demigoddess. This only one example, more examples could [/FONT]seen in text written to counter Ambala’s thesis by v d Singh.[/FONT]
 
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Page 119 to 127: here he attacks Var Durga Ji Ki and our Ardas.

As per him he takes few lines only from Verse 1,Verse 53 and verse 55.

Let us all have these below




ਚੰਡੀ ਦੀ ਵਾਰ
Chan?oo ?oo Vaar
NAME OF THE BANI.

Page 297, Line 7


ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ
Ik Oankaar Waheguroo joo koo Fateh||
The Lord is one and the Victory is of the Lord.

Page 297, Line 8


ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ
Sroo Bhagautoo joo sahaae||
May SRI BHAGAUTI JI (The Sword) be Helpful.

Page 297, Line 9


ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਪਾਤਸਾਹੀ ੧੦
Vaar Sroo Bhagautoo ji koo|| Paatsaahoo||10||
The Heroic Poem of Sri Bhagauti Ji (Goddess Durga). (By) Th Tenth Kingg (Guru).

Page 297, Line 10


ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਭਗੌਤੀ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਕੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਈਂ ਧਿਆਇ
Pritham bhagautoo simar(i) kai Gur Naanak laoon dhiaae||
In the beginning I remember Bhagauti, the Lord (Whose symbol is the sword and then I remember Guru Nanak.

Page 297, Line 11

Verse 1 of Var Durga Ki,


ਪਉੜੀ
Pauree||
PAURI

Page 323, Line 12


ਦੁਹਾਂ ਕੰਧਾਰਾਂ ਮੁਹਿ ਜੁੜੇ ਨਾਲ ਧਉਸਾ ਭਾਰੀ
Duhaan kandhaaraan muh(i) ju?e naal dhausaa bhaaree||
Alongwith the sounding of the large trumpet, both the forces faced each other.

Page 323, Line 13


ਲਈ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਦੁਰਗਸਾਹ ਵਰ ਜਾਗਨ ਭਾਰੀ
LaibhagautiDurgsaah var jaagan bhaaree||
Durga held out her sword, appearing like great lustrous fire;

Page 323, Line 14
(Verse 53)
ਦੁਰਗਾ ਪਾਠ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਸਭੇ ਪਉੜੀਆਂ
Durgaa paath banaaiaa sabhe pau?eeaan||
All the Pauris (stanza) of this DURGA PATH (The text about the exploits of Durga) have been composed;

Page 325, Line 3


ਫੇਰ ਜੂਨੀ ਆਇਆ ਜਿਨ ਇਹ ਗਾਇਆ ੫੫
Pher na jooniaaiaa jin eh gaaiaa||55||
And that person who sings it, will not take birth again.55.

Page 325, Line 4
(Verse 55)

So as per writer first verse talks of demigoddess as bhagouti and not sword while verse 53 has sword for the same while in the case of 55 we are as if told to praise the demigoddess.

As per him it is out of context to deem sword in verse one.

Let us see Bhagouti used for sword outside Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.


ਜਾਣੁ ਕਥੂਰੀ ਮਿਰਗ ਤਨਿ ਨਾਉ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਲੋਹੁ ਘੜਾਇਆ
jaanu kadooree mirag tani naau bhagautee|ohu gharhaaiaa|
The musk is found in the navel of deer and from ordinary iron the powerful sword is aced.
Line 5
Var 25 Pauri 6

Then there is an example already in text which is before Var Durga Ki where start is done with praise of sword.



ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ
BACHITRA NaatAK
NAME OF THE BANI.

Page 94, Line 4


ਭਾਗ

SECTION I

Page 94, Line 5


ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Ik Oankar Sat(i)gur Prasaadh||
The Lord is One and He can be attained through the grace of the true Guru.

Page 94, Line 6


ਅਥ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਲਿਖਯਾਤੇ
Ath Bachitra Naatak Granth likhyate||
Now the Granth (Book) entitled ‘BACHITTAR NATAK’ is composed.

Page 94, Line 7


ਤ੍ਵ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Tva Prasaadh||
BY THY GRACE.

Page 94, Line 8


ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਬਾਕ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦
Sroo Mukhbaak Paatshaahoo 10 (Dasvoon)||
From the Holy Mouth of the Tenth King (Guru)

Page 94, Line 9


ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA

Page 94, Line 10


ਨਮਸਕਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਖੜਗ ਕੋ ਕਰੋਂ ਸੁ ਹਿਤੁ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇ
Namaskaar sroo kha?ag ko karon su hit(u) chit(u) laae||
I salute the Glorious SWORD with all my heart’s affection.

Page 94, Line 11


ਪੂਰਨ ਕਰੋਂ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਇਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਮੁਹਿ ਕਰਹੁ ਸਹਾਇ
Pooran karon giranth eh(u) tum muh(i) karoh sahaae||1||
I shall complete this Granth only if Thou Helpest me. I.

Page 94, Line 12

Here start is with praise of sword and help is beseeched by the same further term Asi and Tegh come in first line of Shri Kal Ji Ki Ustat .

ਤ੍ਰਿਭੰਗੀ ਛੰਦ
Tribhangoo Chhand||
TRIBHAGI STANZA

Page 94, Line 13


ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤਿ
Sri kaal joo koo ustat(i)||
The Eulogy of the Revered Death (KAL).

Page 94, Line 14

ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ
Khag khan? bihan?ang khal dal khan?ang at(i) ran man?ang bar ban?ang||
The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield.

Page 95, Line 1


ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ
Bhuj dan? akhan?ang tej prachan?ang jot(i) aman?ang bhaan prabhang||
It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum.

Page 95, Line 2


ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ
Sukh santaa karanang durmat(i) daranang kilbikh haranang as(i) saranang||
It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge.

Page 95, Line 3


ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ
Jai jai jag kaaran sristtee ubaaran mam pratipaaran jai tegang||2||
Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory. 2.

Page 95, Line 4


As God is in all so does manifests self in weapons.


(੧੦੨੧-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਆਪੇ ਧਨਖੁ ਆਪੇ ਸਰਬਾਣਾ
aapae dhhanakh aapae sarabaanaa ||
He Himself is the bow, and He Himself is the archer.
1 Maaroo Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1021)

Sarbana also means arrows.

So as in previous text here too praise are done for sword and not demigoddess.

Then does this text praises for demigoddess, let us see.

As in last or 55th Verse. Let us see another verse.


ਤੈ ਹੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੈ ਦੈਤਾ ਦਾ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਾਇਆ
Tai hoo Durgaa saaj(i) kai daigaa daa naas(u) karaaiaa||
O Lord! By creating Durga, Thou hast caused the destruction of demons.

Page 298, Line 8
Verse 2 of Durga Ki Var.

So demigoddess is tool of God who let that destroy demon.

So this verse is concealed by the writer as Ambala Ji did in past.

So last verse does not tells us to praise the Durga. As we see in Kuchajee(unprofessional housewife for home maker jobs),Karhale(Camel) etc name given to texts in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, but none talk of worship of anything else but God and not to worship Camel etc. So just as Durga name is coming so name is Durga Path and nothing to do with any demigoddess worship.

Then why is name Var Durga Ki, well we see Asa Di Var in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, as Asa is Raga(musical tune) so do we have Durga Raga.

Further to it writer attempts to bring in Syam Kavi other than Tenth Master are futile.
Page 157-158
Over here we are told the truth about Bhavani(happenable /happening) which is more a power. First the God Kal is father of universe, from that famous glory/light happened, that is called Bhavani, that has created creation.

Energy beyond space, time and matter, when takes form of light, we see something visible, based upon visible light energy we can take account of rate of change in energy so we get power or Shakti.


(੨੧-, ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ, )
ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਰਵਿ ਰਹੇ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤੀ ਕਾ ਮੇਲੁ
jeh dhaekhaa theh rav rehae siv sakathee kaa mael ||
Wherever I look, I see the Lord pervading there, in the union of Shiva and Shakti, of consciousness and matter.
4 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 21)

It is strange that when term Tata or father is used then how could it be mother goddess ?


(੧੦੮੧-੧੯, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਆਪੇ ਸਕਤੀ ਸਬਲੁ ਕਹਾਇਆ
aapae sakathee sabal kehaaeiaa ||
You Yourself are called the God of Supreme Power.
19 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੦੮੨-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਆਪੇ ਸੂਰਾ ਅਮਰੁ ਚਲਾਇਆ
aapae sooraa amar chalaaeiaa ||
You Yourself are the hero, exerting Your regal power.
1 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੦੮੨-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਆਪੇ ਸਿਵ ਵਰਤਾਈਅਨੁ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਠਾਰੁ ਗੜਾ ੧੩
aapae siv varathaaeean anthar aapae seethal thaar garraa ||13||
You Yourself spread peace within; You are cool and icy calm. ||13||
1 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1081-1082)
(Kindly see term Shiv and Shakati used for God)


(੧੦੮੧-੧੪, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਕਉਤਕੁ ਕਾਲੁ ਇਹੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਪਠਾਇਆ
kouthak kaal eihu hukam pathaaeiaa ||
You issue Your Command for this amazing thing, death.
14 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੦੮੧-੧੫, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਜੀਅ ਜੰਤ ਓਪਾਇ ਸਮਾਇਆ
jeea janth oupaae samaaeiaa ||
You create all beings and creatures, and absorb them back into Yourself.
15 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੦੮੧-੧੫, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਵੇਖੈ ਵਿਗਸੈ ਸਭਿ ਰੰਗ ਮਾਣੇ ਰਚਨੁ ਕੀਨਾ ਇਕੁ ਆਖਾੜਾ
vaekhai vigasai sabh rang maanae rachan keenaa eik aakhaarraa ||9||
You gaze in delight upon the one arena of the world, and enjoy all the pleasures. ||9||
15 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev

(Ang 1081)

Kal(u) could be used for God over here.


ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI

Page 422, Line 3


ਪ੍ਰਥਮ ਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਜਗ ਕੋ ਤਾਤਾ
Pratham kaal sabh jag ko taataa||
First of all the Lord as KAL is the primal ****her of the whole universe;

Page 422, Line 4


ਤਾਤੇ ਭਥੋ ਤੇਜ ਬਿਖਯਾਤਾ
Taate bhayo tej bikhyaataa||
And from him emanated the Powerful Lustre;

Page 422, Line 5


ਸੋਈ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਹਾਈ
SoiBhavaaninaam(u) kahaaee||
The same Lord was considered as Bhavani,

Page 422, Line 6


ਜਿਨ ਸਿਗਰੀ ਯਹ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਪਾਈ ੨੯
Jin sigariyah sristtee upaaee||29||
Who created the whole world.29.

Page 422, Line 7


ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI

Page 422, Line 8


ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੈ ਓਅੰਕਾਰ ਤਿਨ ਕਹਾ
Prithmai Oankaar tin kahaa||
First of all, He uttered ‘Oankar’:

Page 422, Line 9


ਸੋ ਧੁਨ ਪੂਰ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਰਹਾ
So dhun poor jagat mo rahaa||
And the sound of “Onkar’ Pervanded the whole world,

Page 422, Line 10


ਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਗਤ ਭਯੋ ਬਿਸਥਾਰਾ
Taa te jagat bhayo bisthaaraa||
There was expansion of the whole world,

Page 422, Line 11


ਪੁਰਖ ਪ੍ਰਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਜਬ ਦੁਹੂ ਬਿਚਾਰਾ ੩੦
Purakh prakrit jab duhoo bichaaraa||30||
From the union of Purusha and Prakriti.30.

Page 422, Line 12
(Cahubees Avtar)
Need to remember here that other name of Purukh is shiv(the mind) and Prakriti is Shiva(the matter).

Here Bhavani is referred to light.
Pageb160: here as term poet Shyam comes writer thinks that it is not the Tenth Master, well thing is that poet here is God of The Tenth Master ie Shyam.

Page 182: Here we have verse that body of God of Sikhs has many demigods within it. Writer uselessly says that this is demigoddess. As by manifesting self Akal could create billions of demigods so this thing is there but demigoddess her self was a creation as seen in both Markandey Purana and Shiv Purana and again told in Var Durga Ki.


(੪੫੫-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਛੰਤ
shhanth ||
Chhant:
13 null null


(੪੫੫-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਜਾ ਕਉ ਖੋਜਹਿ ਅਸੰਖ ਮੁਨੀ ਅਨੇਕ ਤਪੇ
jaa ko khojehi asankh munee anaek thapae ||
Countless silent sages and innumerable ascetics seek Him;
13 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੪, ਆਸਾ, )
ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਕੋਟਿ ਅਰਾਧਹਿ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਜਾਪ ਜਪੇ
brehamae kott araadhhehi giaanee jaap japae ||
millions of Brahmas meditate and adore Him; the spiritual teachers meditate and chant His Name.
14 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੪, ਆਸਾ, )
ਜਪ ਤਾਪ ਸੰਜਮ ਕਿਰਿਆ ਪੂਜਾ ਅਨਿਕ ਸੋਧਨ ਬੰਦਨਾ
jap thaap sanjam kiriaa poojaa anik sodhhan bandhanaa ||
Through chanting, deep meditation, strict and austere self-discipline, religious rituals, sincere worship, endless purifications and humble salutations,
14 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੫, ਆਸਾ, )
ਕਰਿ ਗਵਨੁ ਬਸੁਧਾ ਤੀਰਥਹ ਮਜਨੁ ਮਿਲਨ ਕਉ ਨਿਰੰਜਨਾ
kar gavan basudhhaa theerathheh majan milan ko niranjanaa ||
wandering all over the earth and bathing at sacred shrines of pilgrimage, people seek to meet the Pure Lord.
15 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੫, ਆਸਾ, )
ਮਾਨੁਖ ਬਨੁ ਤਿਨੁ ਪਸੂ ਪੰਖੀ ਸਗਲ ਤੁਝਹਿ ਅਰਾਧਤੇ
maanukh ban thin pasoo pankhee sagal thujhehi araadhhathae ||
Mortals, forests, blades of grass, animals and birds all meditate on You.
15 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੬, ਆਸਾ, )
ਦਇਆਲ ਲਾਲ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਿਲੁ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਗਤੇ
dhaeiaal laal gobindh naanak mil saadhhasangath hoe gathae ||1||
The Merciful Beloved Lord, the Lord of the Universe is found; O Nanak, joining the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, salvation is attained. ||1||
16 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੬, ਆਸਾ, )
ਕੋਟਿ ਬਿਸਨ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਸੰਕਰ ਜਟਾਧਾਰ
kott bisan avathaar sankar jattaadhhaar ||
Millions of incarnations of Vishnu and Shiva, with matted hair
16 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੭, ਆਸਾ, )
ਚਾਹਹਿ ਤੁਝਹਿ ਦਇਆਰ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਰੁਚ ਅਪਾਰ
chaahehi thujhehi dhaeiaar man than ruch apaar ||
yearn for You, O Merciful Lord; their minds and bodies are filled with infinite longing.
17 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੭, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਪਾਰ ਅਗਮ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਸਗਲ ਪੂਰਕ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਧਨੀ
apaar agam gobindh thaakur sagal poorak prabh dhhanee ||
The Lord Master, the Lord of the Universe, is infinite and unapproachable; God is the all-pervading Lord of all.
17 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੮, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸੁਰ ਸਿਧ ਗਣ ਗੰਧਰਬ ਧਿਆਵਹਿ ਜਖ ਕਿੰਨਰ ਗੁਣ ਭਨੀ
sur sidhh gan gandhharab dhhiaavehi jakh kinnar gun bhanee ||
The angels,the Siddhas,the beings of spiritual perfection,the heavenly heralds and celestial singers meditate on You. The Yakhsha demons,the guards of the divine treasures,and the Kinnars, the dancers of the god of wealth chant Your Glorious Praises.
18 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੮, ਆਸਾ, )
ਕੋਟਿ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਅਨੇਕ ਦੇਵਾ ਜਪਤ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਜੈ ਜੈ ਕਾਰ
kott eindhr anaek dhaevaa japath suaamee jai jai kaar ||
Millions of Indras and countless gods and super-human beings meditate on the Lord Master and celebrate His Praises.
18 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੯, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਨਾਥ ਨਾਥ ਦਇਆਲ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਉਧਾਰ
anaathh naathh dhaeiaal naanak saadhhasangath mil oudhhaar ||2||
The Merciful Lord is the Master of the masterless, O Nanak; joining the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, one is saved. ||2||
19 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੫-੧੯, ਆਸਾ, )
ਕੋਟਿ ਦੇਵੀ ਜਾ ਕਉ ਸੇਵਹਿ ਲਖਿਮੀ ਅਨਿਕ ਭਾਤਿ
kott dhaevee jaa ko saevehi lakhimee anik bhaath ||
Millions of gods and goddesses of wealth serve Him in so many ways.
19 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev

(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਗੁਪਤ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਜਾ ਕਉ ਅਰਾਧਹਿ ਪਉਣ ਪਾਣੀ ਦਿਨਸੁ ਰਾਤਿ
gupath pragatt jaa ko araadhhehi poun paanee dhinas raath ||
The invisible and visible beings worship Him in adoration, along with wind and water, day and night.
1 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਨਖਿਅਤ੍ਰ ਸਸੀਅਰ ਸੂਰ ਧਿਆਵਹਿ ਬਸੁਧ ਗਗਨਾ ਗਾਵਏ
nakhiathr saseear soor dhhiaavehi basudhh gaganaa gaaveae ||
The stars, the moon and the sun meditate on Him; the earth and the sky sing to Him.
1 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸਗਲ ਖਾਣੀ ਸਗਲ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਧਿਆਵਏ
sagal khaanee sagal baanee sadhaa sadhaa dhhiaaveae ||
All the sources of creation, and all languages meditate on Him, forever and ever.
2 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਪੁਰਾਣ ਚਤੁਰ ਬੇਦਹ ਖਟੁ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਜਾ ਕਉ ਜਪਾਤਿ
simrith puraan chathur baedheh khatt saasathr jaa ko japaath ||
The Simritees, the Puraanas, the four Vedas and the six Shaastras meditate on Him.
3 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਪਤਿਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਭਗਤਿ ਵਛਲ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਿਲੀਐ ਸੰਗਿ ਸਾਤਿ
pathith paavan bhagath vashhal naanak mileeai sang saath ||3||
He is the Purifier of sinners, the Lover of His Saints; O Nanak, He is met in the Society of the Saints. ||3||
3 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਜੇਤੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਜਨਾਈ ਰਸਨਾ ਤੇਤ ਭਨੀ
jaethee prabhoo janaaee rasanaa thaeth bhanee ||
As much as God has revealed to us, that much we can speak with our tongues.
4 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਨਜਾਨਤ ਜੋ ਸੇਵੈ ਤੇਤੀ ਨਹ ਜਾਇ ਗਨੀ
anajaanath jo saevai thaethee neh jaae ganee ||
Those unknown ones who serve You cannot be counted.
4 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਵਿਗਤ ਅਗਨਤ ਅਥਾਹ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਸਗਲ ਮੰਝੇ ਬਾਹਰਾ
avigath aganath athhaah thaakur sagal manjhae baaharaa ||
Imperishable, incalculable, and unfathomable is the Lord and Master; He is everywhere, inside and out.
4 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸਰਬ ਜਾਚਿਕ ਏਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਨਹ ਦੂਰਿ ਸੰਗੀ ਜਾਹਰਾ
sarab jaachik eaek dhaathaa neh dhoor sangee jaaharaa ||
We are all beggars, He is the One and only Giver; He is not far away, but is with us, ever-present.
5 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਵਸਿ ਭਗਤ ਥੀਆ ਮਿਲੇ ਜੀਆ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਉਪਮਾ ਕਿਤ ਗਨੀ
vas bhagath thheeaa milae jeeaa thaa kee oupamaa kith ganee ||
He is in the power of His devotees; those whose souls are united with Him - how can their praises be sung?
5 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੪੫੬-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਇਹੁ ਦਾਨੁ ਮਾਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਪਾਏ ਸੀਸੁ ਸਾਧਹ ਧਰਿ ਚਰਨੀ
eihu dhaan maan naanak paaeae sees saadhheh dhhar charanee ||4||2||5||
May Nanak receive this gift and honor, of placing his head on the feet of the Holy Saints. ||4||2||5||
6 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev

(Ang 455-456)
Page 183: Here we are told that demigod of Hindus, Vishnu took command from God of Sikhs, writer asks which Vishnu is this ? Lack of common sense. Here that Vishnu is talked about who took command of Akal, to get birth to spread Jainism so the introduction of that Vishnu is given there and then.

Likewise as from verse above from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji we are told about millions of Indras.

So question to writer with same logic:-


(੧੩੪੪-, ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ ਮਹਲਾ ਦਖਣੀ
prabhaathee mehalaa 1 dhakhanee ||
Prabhaatee, First Mehl, Dakhnee:
1 null null


(੧੩੪੪-, ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਗੋਤਮੁ ਤਪਾ ਅਹਿਲਿਆ ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਇੰਦ੍ਰੁ ਲੁਭਾਇਆ
gotham thapaa ahiliaa eisathree this dhaekh eindhra lubhaaeiaa ||
Ahalyaa was the wife of Gautam the seer. Seeing her, Indra was enticed.
1 Parbhaatee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੧੩੪੪-, ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਸਹਸ ਸਰੀਰ ਚਿਹਨ ਭਗ ਹੂਏ ਤਾ ਮਨਿ ਪਛੋਤਾਇਆ
sehas sareer chihan bhag hooeae thaa man pashhothaaeiaa ||1||
When he received a thousand marks of disgrace on his body, then he felt regret in his mind. ||1||
1 Parbhaatee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1344)

Which Indra is this out of millions of Indras told in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji/

Page 245: here writer says that telling here that Sita or Balmeek worshiped “durga” is a lie and poet just wants them to prove Durga worshipper as he tries same for Guru. Well term Durga could be used for Akal as it means fortress and as Puranic Characters are told to be worshippers of Akal .

But let us think about translations from old text. In Ramcharitramanas by Goswami Tulsidasa, we are told that when Sita Ji sees Lord Ram first she prays to goddess Durga/Gauri to have Rama as her Husband. Likewise in Balakand Sarg 36 of Valmiki Ramayana Rishi Valmiki tells about the power of Uma/Gauri/Durga and her potency. Lastly he is told to be an outcase Supachara(Ang999 of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) so that makes him native Indian so his worshipping native Indian demigoddess is but natural fact is that writer like ex Arya Samaji Bhag Singh is trying to strip Sikhs with all the connection with non Aryans.
(In Valmiki Ramayan Kal is told to be the son of Vishnu Uttarkand 104 Sarg).

It is quite strange, that when translation is done and is ditto to old text then its an attempt of Hindus to misguide Sikhs, while when something not in Hindus is written then it is told to be a lie as per Hindus, So with same logic all Sikhism being unique from Hindus is going to be a lie as per Hindus.

Page 254: over here writer asks that can there be a place where Kal stays, and orders Vishnu after coming of Brhama, fact is in which place does not God Kal, God of Sikhs lives see below:

ਜਿਤਿਕ ਜਗਤਿ ਕੇ ਜੀਵ ਬਖਾਨੋ
Jitik jagat(i) ke jeev bakhaano||
Consider all the beings in the world,
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ਏਕ ਜੋਤ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਮਹਿ ਜਾਨੋ
Ek jot sabh himaih jaano||
Ad the illumination of the same Light,
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ਕਾਲ ਰੂਪ ਗਵਾਨ ਭਨੈਬੋ
Kaal roop Bhagvaan bhanaibo||
The Lord, Who is known as KAL;
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ਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਲੀਨ ਜਗਤਿ ਸਭ ਹ੍ਵੈਬੋ ੩੪
Taa maih leen jagat(i) sabh hvaibo||34||
All the world will merge in Him.34.
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ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI
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ਜੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਦਿਸਟ ਅਗੋਚਰ ਆਵਤ
Jo kichh(u) dist agochar aavat||
Whatever appears inconceivable to us,
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ਤਾਕਹੁ ਮਨ ਮਾਯਾ ਠਹਰਾਵਤ
Taakauh man maayaa thahraavat||
The mind gives it the name of Maya;
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ਏਕਹਿ ਆਪ ਸਭਨ ਮੋ ਬਯਾਪਾ
Ekah(i) aap sabhan mo byaapaa||
Only one lord pervades all;
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ਸਭ ਕੋਈ ਭਿੰਨ ਭਿੰਨ ਕਰ ਥਾਪਾ ੩੫
Sabh koibhinn bhinn kar thaapn||35||
But appears to everyone as distinctly separate accofding to his discernment.35.
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(Chaubees Avtar)

Then he asks which Vishnu ?

Then asks him Which Indra ? as before. Then which Brahama went into the stem of lotus as on Ang 350 ? There are millions of them(Ang 455-456).

Page 255: Here the praise of Debi or divine are to be told and divine Akal is told to be manifesting self in goddess and all acts of goddess should be attributed to Akal. Same stands for Akal manifesting self as Vishnu’s incarnation of Nar(man) Hari(lion) or lion man and strange thing is that only one line of the same verse of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is given, while both Debi Ju Kis Ustat and this verse point to same God.

Let us see how.




(੪੫੧-੧੨, ਆਸਾ, )
ਹਰਿ ਜੁਗੁ ਜੁਗੁ ਭਗਤ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਪੈਜ ਰਖਦਾ ਆਇਆ ਰਾਮ ਰਾਜੇ
har jug jug bhagath oupaaeiaa paij rakhadhaa aaeiaa raam raajae ||
In each and every age, He creates His devotees and preserves their honor, O Lord King.
12 Aasaa Guru Ram Das


(੪੫੧-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਦੁਸਟੁ ਹਰਿ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਤਰਾਇਆ
haranaakhas dhusatt har maariaa prehalaadh tharaaeiaa ||
The Lord killed the wicked Harnaakhash, and saved Prahlaad.
13 Aasaa Guru Ram Das


(੪੫੧-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਹੰਕਾਰੀਆ ਨਿੰਦਕਾ ਪਿਠਿ ਦੇਇ ਨਾਮਦੇ ਮੁਖਿ ਲਾਇਆ
ahankaareeaa nindhakaa pith dhaee naamadhaeo mukh laaeiaa ||
He turned his back on the egotists and slanderers, and showed His Face to Naam Dayv.
13 Aasaa Guru Ram Das


(੪੫੧-੧੪, ਆਸਾ, )
ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਐਸਾ ਹਰਿ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਅੰਤਿ ਲਏ ਛਡਾਇਆ ੧੩੨੦
jan naanak aisaa har saeviaa anth leae shhaddaaeiaa ||4||13||20||
Servant Nanak has so served the Lord, that He will deliver him in the end. ||4||13||20||
14 Aasaa Guru Ram Das
(Ang 451)

Further to it we need to understand that there is temple in Mahrashtra, where a person can go from Hajur Sahib, having a temple moved in direction of place where Bhagat Namdev Ji sat.

Then in Krishnaavtar we are told about dark skinned Krishna who is anti Brahamin(see the story when he sends his friends to fetch food from Brahmins of Mathura) which is not mentioned in Bhagwat Purana. The way poet Syam/Ram/God tells about Krishna taking away of loins of maid is objective reporting which seems to be vulgar to writer for his obsession to Aryan/upper caste ideology. When lord of Hindus is being told to have such a way of relationship before marriage, what problem does a non hindu like writer have if Guru exposes this, does writer have any sympathy for Hindus or is he working for them ?
 
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Page 289 : Shrimad Bhagvat Dasham(Tenth) Skahndha(Shoulder/Volume (Purardh/earlier half) Chapter 22. we have both stealing of loins of maid and maids worshipping goddess also. So this is translation and writer has not read perhaps the Shrimad Bhagvat Purana, further to it there is neither any standard version of it in Hindus.

Page 309: Here Akal is praised with Akal’s manifestation as demigoddess attributed to Akal lines proving them follows as here.

ਤੁਹੀ ਤੇਜ ਆਕਾਸ਼ ਥੰਭੋ ਮਹੀ ਹੈ ੪੨੨
uhitej aakaaash thanbho mahihai||422||
Thou art the Light of the sky and the support of the earth.422.

…..
ਤੁਹੀ ਮੋਹ ਸੁ ਚਉਦਹੂੰ ਲੋਕ ਛਾਇਆ
Tuhimoh su chaudahoon lok chhaaiaa||
all the fourteen worlds are illumined by Thy Light;
………………

ਤੁਹੀ ਚਉਦਹੂੰ ਲੋਗ ਕੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਾਨੀ ੪੨੩
Tuhichaudahoon log kijot(i) jaanee||423||
Thou art the brilliance of the fourteen worlds.423.
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ਰੀ ਤੁਹੀ ਤੀਰ ਤਰਵਾਰ ਕਾਤੀ ਕਟਾਰੀ ੪੨੭
Tuhiteer tarvaar kaatikataaree||427||
Thou art also in the form of an arrow, a a sword and a dagger.427.

ਮਹਾ ਮੋਹ ਸੋ ਚਉਦਹੂੰ ਲੋਕ ਛਾਯਾ ੪੨੯
Mahaa moh so chaudahoon lok chhaayaa||429||
there is the prevalence of your maya in all the fourteen worlds.429.

If writer says that all these things are attributed to demigoddess then we can say that there are verse in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji attributed to Lord Krishna or Vishnu.

(੬੦੬-੧੬, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਆਪੇ ਗੋਪੀ ਕਾਨੁ ਹੈ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਬਨਿ ਆਪੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਹਾ
aapae gopee kaan hai piaaraa ban aapae goo charaahaa ||
The Beloved Himself is the milk-maid and Krishna; He Himself herds the cows in the woods.
16 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੬, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਆਪੇ ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਆਪੇ ਵੰਸੁ ਵਜਾਹਾ
aapae saaval sundharaa piaaraa aapae vans vajaahaa ||
The Beloved Himself is the blue-skinned, handsome one; He Himself plays on His flute.
16 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੭, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਕੁਵਲੀਆ ਪੀੜੁ ਆਪਿ ਮਰਾਇਦਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਕਰਿ ਬਾਲਕ ਰੂਪਿ ਪਚਾਹਾ
kuvaleeaa peerr aap maraaeidhaa piaaraa kar baalak roop pachaahaa ||2||
The Beloved Himself took the form of a child, and destroyed Kuwalia-peer, the mad elephant. ||2||
17 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੭, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਆਪਿ ਅਖਾੜਾ ਪਾਇਦਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖੈ ਆਪਿ ਚੋਜਾਹਾ
aap akhaarraa paaeidhaa piaaraa kar vaekhai aap chojaahaa ||
The Beloved Himself sets the stage; He performs the plays, and He Himself watches them.
17 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੮, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਕਰਿ ਬਾਲਕ ਰੂਪ ਉਪਾਇਦਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਚੰਡੂਰੁ ਕੰਸ ਕੇਸੁ ਮਾਰਾਹਾ
kar baalak roop oupaaeidhaa piaaraa chanddoor kans kaes maaraahaa ||
The Beloved Himself assumed the form of the child, and killed the demons Chandoor, Kansa and Kaysee.
18 Sorith Guru Ram Das


(੬੦੬-੧੮, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਬਲੁ ਆਪਿ ਹੈ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਬਲੁ ਭੰਨੈ ਮੂਰਖ ਮੁਗਧਾਹਾ
aapae hee bal aap hai piaaraa bal bhannai moorakh mugadhhaahaa ||3||
The Beloved Himself, by Himself, is the embodiment of power; He shatters the power of the fools and idiots. ||3||
18 Sorith Guru Ram Das
(Ang 606)

We need to understand that as per Virat Rupa or gigantic form of Krishna in Gita part of Mahabharata, we are told that Krishna is in all. Likewise in Shrimad Bhagvat again Vishnu is told to be in all(see chapter dealing with lion man).


(੯੮੮-੧੪, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ
kar dhharae chakr baikunth thae aaeae gaj hasathee kae praan oudhhaareealae ||
You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.
14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 988)

Writer puts a few questions.

First why is glory of God(which he thinks is demigoddess due to lack of spirituality) is sung here ?
Second as poet tells that Krishana is not worshipped by poet then why does such a large story of Krishna written ?

What is meant by Bhawat Ko dhyan or remembering God ?

What about forgetting ?
Answer 1. Here poet intentionally says that no one should mistake poet for pots worshipping Krishna while poet does not worship Krishna so within Krishna Avtar we find this clarified.

ਮੈ ਗਨੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਮਨਾਊਂ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਧਿਆਊਂ ਕਾਨ ਸੁਨੇ ਪਹਿਚਾਨ ਤਿਨ ਸੋਂ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੀ ਮੋਰੀ ਪਗ ਇਨ ਸੋਂ ੪੩੪
Mai na Ganeshah(i) pritham manaaoon|| Kishan Bishan kab-hoon nah dhiaaoon|| Kaan sune paihchaan na tin son|| Liv laagimoripag in son||434||
I do not adore Ganesha in the beginning and also do not mediatate on Krishna and Vishnu; I have only heard about them with my ears and I do not recognize them; my consciousness is absorbed at the feet of the Supreme Kal (the Immanent Brahman).434.
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Question 2: What is the reason for writing Krishanavtar. Fact is that writer has not read the whole text or he is concealing the answer from poet who is Guru only.



ਸੱਤ੍ਰਹ ਸੈ ਪੈਤਾਲ ਮਹਿ ਸਾਵਨ ਸੁਦਿ ਥਿਤਿ ਦੀਪ ਨਗਰ ਪਾਂਵਟਾ ਸੁਭ ਕਰਨ ਜਮਨਾ ਬਹੈ ਸਮੀਪ ੨੪੯੦
Sattrah sai paitaal maih Saavan Sud(i) thit(i) deep|| Nagar Paanvtaa subh karan Jamnaa bahai sameep||2490||
In the year 1745 of the Vikrami era in the Sudi aspect of the moon in the month of Sawan, in the town of Paonta at the auspicious hour, on banks of the flowing Yamuna; (this work has been completed).2490.
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ਦਸਮ ਕਥਾ ਭਾਗਉਤ ਕੀ ਭਾਖਾ ਕਰੀ ਬਨਾਇ ਅਵਰ ਬਾਸਨਾ ਨਾਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਧਰਮ ੁੱਧ ਕੇ ਚਾਇ ੨੪੯੧
Dasam kathaa Bhaagaut kibhaakhaa karibanaae|| Avar baasnaa naah(i) prabh dharam juddh ke chaae||2491||
I have composed the discourse of the tenth part (Skandh) of Bhagavat in the vernacular; O Lord ! I have no other desire and have only the zeal for the war fought on the basis of righteousness.2491.
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Answer 3: does term Bhagwat means demigoddess. Answer is no and this is mistake on the part of Mr Dalbeer Singh.

Das has a question to him.

Shrimad Bhagwat Purana and Shrimad Bhagwat Gita both deal with god Vishnu and Lord Krishna respectively ,why they have name Bhagwat ? and are they any way related to demigoddess ?

ਕੇਈ ਕਰਤ ਬੈਠ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਉਚਾਰ ਕੇਈ ਕਰਤ ਪਾਠ ਮੁਨ ਮਨ ੳਦਾਰ ਕੇਈ ਭਗਤ ਭਾਵ ਭਗਵਤ ਭਜੰਤ ਕੇਈ ਰਿਚਾ ਬੇਦ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਰਟੰਤ ੧੫੦
Kaikarat baith har(i) har(i) uchaar|| Keikarat paath mun man udaar|| Keibhagat bhaav bhagvat bhajant|| Keirichaa Bed Sinmrit ratant||150||
Some are uttering the Name of the Lord while sitting and some sages are reading the religious text with a generous heart; many are meditating on the Lord with devotion and many are repeating the Vedic verses and Smritis.150.
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ਕੇਈ ਏਕ ਪਾਨ ਅਸਥਿਤ ਅਡੋਲ ਕੇਈ ਜਪਤ ਜਾਪ ਮਨਿ ਚਿੱਤ ਖੋਲ ਕੇਈ ਕਹਤ ਏਕ ਮਨ ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰ ਇਕ ਭਛਤ ਪਉਨ ਮੁਨ ਮਨ ਉਦਾਰ ੧੫੧
Keiek paan asthit a?ol|| Keijapat jaap man(i) chitt khol|| Keikahat ek man niraahaar|| Ik bhachhat paun mun man udaar||151||
Many are standing on one hand and many are reciting mantras with fullness of mind; many go without food and many sages only subsist on air.151.
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ਇਕ ਕਰਤ ਨਯਾਸ ਆਸਾ ਬਿਹੀਨ ਇਕ ਰਹਤ ਏਕ ਭਗਵਤ ਅਧੀਨ ਇਕ ਕਰਤ ਨੈਕ ਬਨ ਫਲ ਅਹਾਰ ਇਕ ਰਟਤ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਆਮਾ ਅਪਾਰ ੧੫੨
Ik karat nyaas aasaa niheen|| Ik rahat ek bhagvat adheen|| Ik karat naik ban phal ahaar|| Ik ratat naam siaamaa|| apaar||152||
Many are sitting in postures, abandoning their desires and expectations and many have resigned themselves to the support of the Lord; Many are subsisting on small quantity of fruit in the forest and many are only repeating the Name of the Lord.152.
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(Dattatrya Rudra Avtar)

Where is demigoddess in verse given above ?

Term Bhagwat means like(wat) womb(Bhag) like to prostrate like(wat) stick(danda) means Dandwat.


(੨੫੬-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਡੰਡਉਤਿ ਬੰਦਨ ਅਨਿਕ ਬਾਰ ਸਰਬ ਕਲਾ ਸਮਰਥ
ddanddouth bandhan anik baar sarab kalaa samarathh ||
I bow down, and fall to the ground in humble adoration, countless times, to the All-powerful Lord, who possesses all powers.
4 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 456)

So as God gives birth to all so name Bhagwan, Bhag and Bhagwat is given to God.

(੧੧੬੨-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਭਗਵਤ ਭੀਰਿ ਸਕਤਿ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕੀ ਕਟੀ ਕਾਲ ਭੈ ਫਾਸੀ
bhagavath bheer sakath simaran kee kattee kaal bhai faasee ||
With the army of God's devotees, and Shakti, the power of meditation, I have snapped the noose of the fear of death.
1 Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1161)

Should Bhagwat be beheld for demigoddess here ?

Answer 4:
ਚੂਕ ਹੋਇ ਕਬਿ ਲੇਹੁ ਸੁਧਾਰੋ ੪੪੦
Chook hoe kabi leh(u) sudhaaro||440||
if there remins any shortcoming in it, then the poets may improve it.440.

Does this mean that poet is committing mistake ? Answer is that this is a mark of humbleness else what about the verse from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?


(੨੬੦-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਸਾਸਿ ਸਾਸਿ ਹਮ ਭੂਲਨਹਾਰ
saas saas ham bhoolanehaarae ||
With each and every breath, I make mistakes.
7 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 260)

Page 354: Here the whole story is to deliver the sprit of a person called Sudarshan which is in Chapter 34, Dasham Skandh(Purvardh) Shrimad Bhagwat Purana, so in that Purana there is written that Lord Krishna ‘s family went to worship Shiv and his wife demigoddess. While writer says that poet Shyam has made them demigoddess worshipper. Fact is that poet Shyam/Akal did made that family demigoddess worshipper while in original text also. It is simple taken from that Purana

Page 386:

ਸਤ੍ਰਹ ਸੈ ਚਵਤਾਲ ਮੈ ਸਾਵਨ ਸੁਦਿ ਬੁਧਵਾਰ ਨਗਰ ਪਾਵਟਾ ਮੋ ਤੁਮੋ ਰਚਿਯੋ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸੁਧਾਰ ੯੮੩
Satrah sai chavtaal mai Saavan Sudi Budhvaar|| Nagar Paavtaa mo tumo rachiyo granth sudhaar||983||
This Granth (book) has been prepared after revision in Paonta city on Wednesday in Sawan Sudi Samvat 1744. 983.

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ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA

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ਖੜਗਪਾਨ ਕੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੇ ਪੋਥੀ ਰਚੀ ਬਿਚਾਰ ਭੂਲ ਹੋਇ ਜਹਂ ਤਹਿਂ ਸੁ ਕਬਿ ਪੜੀਅਹੁ ਸਭੈ ਸੁਧਾਰ ੯੮੪
Kha?agpaan kikripaa te pothirachibichaar|| Bhool hoe jahan tahan su kabi pa?eeauh sabhai sudhaar||984||
With the grace of the sword-wielder Lord-God, this Granth has been prepared thoughtfully; even then, if there is any mistake anywhere, the poets may kindly recite it after revision.984.

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Writer does not gives line preceding the line talking about humility .

As per writer mistakes are by poet while poet is telling to read after rectifying the mistakes here and there in reading.(it is more to do with correct reading and understanding the text by reader)

Fact is that Body of Tenth Master was only the speaker while poet is God and there is third person who is writer/scribe who is all the most Baba Binod Singh Ji(at that time he may not have surname Singh as such).

So mistake of writer and receiver are been told to be rectified by poet God vide a prayer which God wants them to say.(in Holy Quran for example 3:8 There God uses the term which God wants believers to say to God) .

Page 495: Here we find that Akal is called as Sun, Moon and mother of universe which writer wants to prove as demigoddess.

ਸਵੈਯਾ
Sawaiyaa||
SWAYYA

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ਹੇ ਰਵਿ ਹੇ ਸਸਿ ਹੇ ਕਰੁਨਾਨਿਧ ਮੇਰੀ ਅਬੈ ਬਿਨਤੀ ਸੁਨਿ ਲੀਜੈ ਅਉਰ ਮਾਂਗਤ ਹਉ ਤੁਮ ਤੇ ਕਛੁ ਚਾਹਤ ਹਉ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਸੋਈ ਕੀਜੈ
He rav(i) he sas(i) he karunaanidh meriabai bintisun(i) leejai|| Aur na maangat hau tum te kachhu chaahat hau chit mai soikeejai||
O Surya! O Chandra! O merciful Lord! listen to a request of mine, I am not asking for anything else from you; whatever I wish in my mind, by that with Thy Grace;

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ਸ਼ੱਤ੍ਰਨ ਸਿਉ ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਰਨ ਭੀਤਰ ਜੂਝ ਮਰੋ ਕਹਿ ਸਾਚ ਪਤੀਜੈ ਸੰਤ ਸਹਾਇ ਸਦਾ ਜਗ ਮਾਇ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਇਹੈ ਬਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ੧੯੦੦
Shattran sio at(i) ran bheetar joojh maro kah(i) saach patteejai|| Sant sahaae sadaa jag maae kripaa kar(i) Syaam ihai bar(u) deejai||1900||
If I fall a martyr while fighting with my enemies then I shall think that I have realised Truth; O Sustainer of the Universe ! I may always help the saints in this world and destroy the tyrants; bestow this boon on me.1900.

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ਜਉ ਕਿਛੁ ਇੱਛ ਕਰੋ ਧਨ ਕੀ ਤਉ ਚਲਯੋ ਧਨੁ ਦੇਸਨ ਦੇਸ ਤੇ ਆਵੈ ਅਉ ਸਭ ਰਿੱਧਨ ਸਿੱਧਨ ਪੈ ਹਮਰੋ ਨਹੀ ਨੈਕੁ ਹੀਯਾ ਲਲਚਾਵੈ
Jau kichh(u) ichchh karo dhan kitau chalyo dhan(u) desan des te aavai|| Au sabh riddhan siddhan pai hamro nahinaik(u) heeyaa lachaavai||
When I wish for the wealth, it comes to me from my country and from abroad; I have no temptation for any miraculous powers;

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ਅਉਰ ਸੁਨੋ ਕਛੁ ਜੋਗ ਬਿਖੈ ਕਹਿ ਕਉਨ ਇਤੋ ਤਪ ਕੈ ਤਨੁ ਤਾਵੈ ਜੂਝ ਮਰੋ ਰਨ ਮੈ ਤਜਿ ਭੈ ਤੁਮ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਯਾਮ ਇਹੈ ਬਰੁ ਪਾਵੈ ੧੯੦੧
Aur suno kachh(u) jog bikhai kah(i) kaun ito tap kai tan(u) taavai|| Joojh maro ran mai taj(i) bhai tum te prabh Syaam ihai bar(u) paavai||1901||
The science of Yoga is of no use to me; because spending time on that, there is no useful realisation from the physical austerities; O Lord ! I beg for this boon from Thee that I may fearlessly fall a martyr in the battlefield.1901.

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ਪੂਰ ਰਹਯੋ ਸਿਗਰੇ ਜਗ ਮੈ ਅਬ ਲਉ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਜਸੁ ਲੋਕ ਸੁ ਗਾਵੈ ਸਿੱਧ ਮੁਨੀਸ਼੍ਵਰ ਈਸ਼੍ਵਰ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਅਜੌ ਬਲ ਕੋ ਗੁਨ ਬਯਾਸ ਸੁਨਾਵੈ
Poor rahyo sigre jag mai ab lau har(i) ko jas(u) lok su gaavai|| Siddh muneeshvar eeshvar Brahm ajau bal ko gun Byaas sunaavai||
The praise of the Lord pervades the whole universe and this eulogy is being sung by Siddhas (adepts), the highest of sages, Shiva, Brahma, Vyas etc.;

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ਅਤ੍ਰ ਪਰਾਸੁਰ ਨਾਰਦ ਸਾਰਦ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਸੁਚ ਸ਼ੇਸ਼ ਅੰਤਹ ਪਾਵੈ ਤਾ ਕੌ ਕਬਿੱਤਨ ਮੈ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਕਹਯੋ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਕਬਿ ਕਉਨ ਰਿਝਾਵੈ ੧੯੦੨
Atra Praasur Naarad Saarad srisuch shesh na antah paavai|| Taa kau kabittan mai kabi Syaam kahyo kah(i) kai kab(i) kaun rijhaavai||1902||
His mystery has not been comprehended even by the sage Atri, Parashar, Narada, Sharda, Sheshnaga etc.; the poet Shyam has described it in poetic stanzas; O Lord ! how can I then please Thee by describing THY glory?1902.

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So thing is that could worshipper of demigoddess seek such thing ?

Then why a form of demigoddess Sarad/Brahmani/Saraswati is written as not being able to understand thy mystery ?

See Makandey Purana Chapter 88, verse 12 and 22, where Godess Durga is termed as Sarswati.

(-, ਜਪੁ, )
ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ
gur eesar gur gorakh baramaa gur paarabathee maaee ||
The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.
9 Jap Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 2)


(੭੮੩-, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਆਪਿ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਆਪੇ ਰਖਾ ਆਪਿ ਪਿਤਾ ਆਪਿ ਮਾਇਆ
prabh aap suaamee aapae rakhaa aap pithaa aap maaeiaa ||
God Himself is my Lord and Master. He Himself is my Saving Grace; He Himself is my father and mother.
4 Soohee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 783)


(੨੩੪-, ਗਉੜੀ ਪੂਰਬੀ, )
ਕਰਹਲੇ ਮਨ ਪਰਦੇਸੀਆ ਕਿਉ ਮਿਲੀਐ ਹਰਿ ਮਾ
karehalae man paradhaeseeaa kio mileeai har maae ||
O my wandering mind, you are like a camel - how will you meet the Lord, your Mother?
4 Gaurhee Poorbee Guru Ram Das
(Ang 234)



(੨੯੪-, ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ, )
ਸਸੀਅਰ ਸੂਰ ਨਖ੍ਯ੍ਯਤ੍ਰ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ
saseear soor nakhyathr mehi eaek ||
In the moon, the sun and the stars, He is the One.
3 Gaurhee Sukhmanee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 294)

Then writer cribs for so called Sikh names and Muslim names in the time of Krishan.

Well with understanding of quantum domain and random space, time is not true and traveling in time is possible as writer claims to be Msc. He should know this.

But anyway in this text we are told that in past people with Muslim names were defeated by Hindus and Hindu’s Avtar were subdued by Sikh like person Kharhag Singh.

But Mr Dalbeer Singh Ji are going to laugh at unique things of Sikhism so he will call it laughable .

So for him only.

Rana Rattan Singh of Chittor was at the time of Alauddeen Khilji, his wife was Padmini. So that was time much before the advent of First Master. Was he Sikh ?

In Gian Prabodh during the time of culminating of so called Duapr Yuga we are told to have Great grand son Pandavas Janmejya having a son called Ajay Singh, Was he a Sikh ?

Any way coming to so called Muslim names.

Term Khan is term of Farsi for mister and is derived from Shriman of Sanskrit. We have Genghis Khan, Halaku Khan, Kublai Khan all as non Muslims. Term Pathan is derived from Pashan or locals of rocky areas of present day Pak-Afghan border. Hindus of that area call themselves as Pathan/Pashtun due to their language. Another name is Pakhton. Meer is term for Mongols who were initially shamanist but later became Buddhist. Some people do deem it short of Ameer or rich in Arabic, But Moghuls used term Meerzada or Mirza. Term Sajjad is meant by King or inheritor .While Sheikh is term used for Brahman Vratya in Manu Samriti Chapter 10. In same chapter Yavans are mentioned. Just by Arebic/Turkish/Farsi name one does not becomes Muslims. Till the time of Samani or Shramans Turks were non Muslims and before Brahmanshahi is Punjab we have Turki Shahi. In fact Samanis first dislodge Muslims Arabs from Central Asia and later converted to Islam. Initial Turks were animists .

Coming to the term of Farsi, its actual name is Parsi, as in Arabic we do not have letter for p so they used f as we see like Parsi became Farsi so did Piroz(victor) became Firoz. There are non Muslim Yezdin in Areas of Iraq just on border of Arab. We have Zoroastrian in Iran. So their book Zend Avestha was written centuries before Lord Jesus and it is in Farsi.

So Farsi is an Aryan language and as old as Sanskrit ,due to Aryan connection that nation is called Iran. Guru had universal approach so beheld Muslim ,Western, Iranian etc all his own and he tried to unite the world under one God free of communal, racial or regional divide. A person who oppose this mission of Guru by opposing holy words onto Guru is doing work which make him/her unworthy to be called son/daughter of Guru.

Then writer talks of Duapar Yuga,Gurbani does not talk Yugas/ages based upon time but based upon qualities in that time by will of timeless Akal.
(੯੦੨-੧੩, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ਅਸਟਪਦੀਆ
raamakalee mehalaa 1 asattapadheeaa
Raamkalee, First Mehl, Ashtapadees:
14 null null


(੯੦੨-੧੪, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
14 null null


(੯੦੨-੧੫, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਸੋਈ ਚੰਦੁ ਚੜਹਿ ਸੇ ਤਾਰੇ ਸੋਈ ਦਿਨੀਅਰੁ ਤਪਤ ਰਹੈ
soee chandh charrehi sae thaarae soee dhineear thapath rehai ||
The same moon rises, and the same stars; the same sun shines in the sky.
15 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੫, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਸਾ ਧਰਤੀ ਸੋ ਪਉਣੁ ਝੁਲਾਰੇ ਜੁਗ ਜੀਅ ਖੇਲੇ ਥਾਵ ਕੈਸੇ
saa dhharathee so poun jhulaarae jug jeea khaelae thhaav kaisae ||1||
The earth is the same, and the same wind blows. The age in which we dwell affects living beings, but not these places. ||1||
15 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੬, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਜੀਵਨ ਤਲਬ ਨਿਵਾਰਿ
jeevan thalab nivaar ||
Give up your attachment to life.
16 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੬, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਹੋਵੈ ਪਰਵਾਣਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਧਿਙਾਣਾ ਕਲਿ ਲਖਣ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਰਹਾਉ
hovai paravaanaa karehi dhhin(g)aanaa kal lakhan veechaar ||1|| rehaao ||
Those who act like tyrants are accepted and approved - recognize that this is the sign of the Dark Age of Kali Yuga. ||1||Pause||
16 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੬, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਕਿਤੈ ਦੇਸਿ ਆਇਆ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਤੀਰਥ ਪਾਸਿ ਬੈਠਾ
kithai dhaes n aaeiaa suneeai theerathh paas n baithaa ||
Kali Yuga has not been heard to have come to any country, or to be sitting at any sacred shrine.
16 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੭, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਦਾਤਾ ਦਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਤਹ ਨਾਹੀ ਮਹਲ ਉਸਾਰਿ ਬੈਠਾ
dhaathaa dhaan karae theh naahee mehal ousaar n baithaa ||2||
It is not where the generous person gives to charities, nor seated in the mansion he has built. ||2||
17 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਜੇ ਕੋ ਸਤੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੋ ਛੀਜੈ ਤਪ ਘਰਿ ਤਪੁ ਹੋਈ
jae ko sath karae so shheejai thap ghar thap n hoee ||
If someone practices Truth, he is frustrated; prosperity does not come to the home of the sincere.
18 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਜੇ ਕੋ ਨਾਉ ਲਏ ਬਦਨਾਵੀ ਕਲਿ ਕੇ ਲਖਣ ਏਈ
jae ko naao leae badhanaavee kal kae lakhan eaeee ||3||
If someone chants the Lord's Name, he is scorned. These are the signs of Kali Yuga. ||3||
18 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੯, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਜਿਸੁ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੀ ਤਿਸਹਿ ਖੁਆਰੀ ਚਾਕਰ ਕੇਹੇ ਡਰਣਾ
jis sikadhaaree thisehi khuaaree chaakar kaehae ddaranaa ||
Whoever is in charge, is humiliated. Why should the servant be afraid,
19 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੨-੧੯, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਜਾ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੈ ਪਵੈ ਜੰਜੀਰੀ ਤਾ ਚਾਕਰ ਹਥਹੁ ਮਰਣਾ
jaa sikadhaarai pavai janjeeree thaa chaakar hathhahu maranaa ||4||
when the master is put in chains? He dies at the hands of his servant. ||4||
19 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev

(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਆਖੁ ਗੁਣਾ ਕਲਿ ਆਈਐ
aakh gunaa kal aaeeai ||
Chant the Praises of the Lord; Kali Yuga has come.
1 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਤਿਹੁ ਜੁਗ ਕੇਰਾ ਰਹਿਆ ਤਪਾਵਸੁ ਜੇ ਗੁਣ ਦੇਹਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਰਹਾਉ
thihu jug kaeraa rehiaa thapaavas jae gun dhaehi th paaeeai ||1|| rehaao ||
The justice of the previous three ages is gone. One obtains virtue, only if the Lord bestows it. ||1||Pause||
1 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਕਲਿ ਕਲਵਾਲੀ ਸਰਾ ਨਿਬੇੜੀ ਕਾਜੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਹੋਆ
kal kalavaalee saraa nibaerree kaajee kirasanaa hoaa ||
In this turbulent age of Kali Yuga, Muslim law decides the cases, and the blue-robed Qazi is the judge.
2 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਬਾਣੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬੇਦੁ ਅਥਰਬਣੁ ਕਰਣੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਲਹਿਆ
baanee brehamaa baedh athharaban karanee keerath lehiaa ||5||
The Guru's Bani has taken the place of Brahma's Veda, and the singing of the Lord's Praises are good deeds. ||5||
2 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਪਤਿ ਵਿਣੁ ਪੂਜਾ ਸਤ ਵਿਣੁ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਜਤ ਵਿਣੁ ਕਾਹੇ ਜਨੇਊ
path vin poojaa sath vin sanjam jath vin kaahae janaeoo ||
Worship without faith; self-discipline without truthfulness; the ritual of the sacred thread without chastity - what good are these?
3 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਨਾਵਹੁ ਧੋਵਹੁ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਚੜਾਵਹੁ ਸੁਚ ਵਿਣੁ ਸੋਚ ਹੋਈ
naavahu dhhovahu thilak charraavahu such vin soch n hoee ||6||
You may bathe and wash, and apply a ritualistic tilak mark to your forehead, but without inner purity, there is no understanding. ||6||
3 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਕਲਿ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਕਤੇਬ ਕੁਰਾਣੁ
kal paravaan kathaeb kuraan ||
In Kali Yuga, the Koran and the Bible have become famous.
4 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਪੋਥੀ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਰਹੇ ਪੁਰਾਣ
pothhee panddith rehae puraan ||
The Pandit's scriptures and the Puraanas are not respected.
4 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਉ ਭਇਆ ਰਹਮਾਣੁ
naanak naao bhaeiaa rehamaan ||
O Nanak, the Lord's Name now is Rehmaan, the Merciful.
4 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਕਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਤੂ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਣੁ
kar karathaa thoo eaeko jaan ||7||
Know that there is only One Creator of the creation. ||7||
5 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਏਦੂ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਮੁ ਨਹੀ
naanak naam milai vaddiaaee eaedhoo oupar karam nehee ||
Nanak has obtained the glorious greatness of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. There is no action higher than this.
5 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੦੩-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਜੇ ਘਰਿ ਹੋਦੈ ਮੰਗਣਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਫਿਰਿ ਓਲਾਮਾ ਮਿਲੈ ਤਹੀ
jae ghar hodhai mangan jaaeeai fir oulaamaa milai thehee ||8||1||
If someone goes out to beg for what is already in his own home, then he should be chastised. ||8||1||
5 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 902-903)

Page 515: Over here we find that writer fights for the fact term Jagmai and Shiva is written for demigoddess in the case of mother of Lord Krishna and his wife. Writer says that as per page 495 this means same of the term Jagmai there. This is highly ridiculous . Say for Example for a Sikh term Vishnu may have two different meaning well within Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. One for Akal and another of demigod of Hindus. So here to Jagmai of poet is not the same as of family of Lord Krishna same does apply for Shiva.



(੨੭੪-੧੨, ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ, )
ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਅਰਪੈ ਬਿਸਨ ਪਰੀਤਿ
man than arapai bisan pareeth ||
He dedicates his mind and body to the Love of God.
12 Gaurhee Sukhmanee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 274)

Here Vishnu means God.


(੭੩੫-੧੭, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਰੋਗੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਾਰ ਕਮਾਈ
brehamaa bisan mehaadhaeo thrai gun rogee vich houmai kaar kamaaee ||
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva suffer from the disease of the three gunas - the three qualities; they do their deeds in egotism.
17 Soohee Guru Ram Das
(Ang 735)

Here it is demigod of Hindus.

We can not behold two the same as the writer in question uses the logic.

Anyway the story of Shrimad Bhagvar Purana Dasham Skhandha Chapter 56 in which worship of Durga by famly/tribe of Krishan mentioned.

Page 518,547: Here we find Lord Krishna’s coming to Delhi. As per writer this is a mistake on the part of poet as in that age it should be Delhi or Hastinapur.

Poof! And Sikhs call this writer as scholar.

Hastinapur still exists and it is located 108 Km north east of Delhi on the Bank of river Ganges. It is a pilgrimage center both for Jains and Hindus, while in nearby village of Saifpur, A Gurudwara is there dedicated to Second Beloved (of Sikhs)Piara Bhai Dharam Singh Ji, whose family still lives there as Hindu jaats. Area hold a relict population of swamp deer ,who is termed as Jhankhara in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib. Term jhinkai or Jhankhara is Dravidian terms used for deer in outcastes of north India and south Indians in general.

So was Delhi there in that time. Answer is yes. After partitioning of empire of Kuru, Khandav Vana was given to Pandavas. They made Five Towns for Five brothers. (Four Are given as Swarnpratha(Sonipat),VyghraPratha(Baghpat), TailPrastha(Tilpat it is very near to the house of Mr Dalbeer Singh Ji at Fareedabad),Pannpratha(Panipat). Sixth village was given to Guru Dronacharya and called Gurugram and in fact that village is present day Gurgaon and it may have temple related to Droncharya(his field range of training is further west via Gurgan into Churu district of Rajashtan called Drnaanchal Hills, near Tal Chhapar). So what about the fifth village. As per one historian of Humayan, present day Puran Qila of Delhi, which was called Din E Panah, was called inderpat in past. It is slang of Indrapastha. We have large area south of ITO of Delhi called Indraprastha. There is one station of Delhi metro named after this.

First city of Delhi out of more then seven to eight was indeed Indrprstha and Guru new that but our scholar is not knowing this. Pity on his intellect. Verse 2087 uses term IndraPrastha for Delhi, which writer ignores. In Next verse Krishna is told hunting the cows.
Page 522: here we are told that Krishna and Arjuna were taking wine and having a good time with dancing ladies. There they talk that Brhama is lowly being a Brahaman as per them, so what problem does writer has when one Hindu incarnation makes fun of oone of their god. Does writer has any sympathy with them ?
Page 571: over here we find that “poet says that after greatly making my mind aware . tell story after deliberation concentration.” As per writer poet uses intoxicants but he does not gives proof instead writer gives proof that poet says that a person who uses drugs does not get awareness/sense..5.. as per page 1137. So writer himself gives an answer. Term Sudh is used for awareness/news/care also and not only for purity



ਕਾਹੇ ਕੋ ਡੋਲਤ ਹੈ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਸੁਧ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਪਦਮਾ ਪਤਿ ਲੈਹੈ ੨੪੭
Kaahe ko ?olat hai tumroo sudh sundar sroo padmaa pat(i) laihai||5||247||
Why dost thou waver, O creature! The beautiful Lord of maya will take care of thee. 5.247.

Page 87, Line 10
(Akal Ustat)

So after having a great awareness in my mind and not purifying the mind.

Page 583: as per line we get “respected sustainer will come to the temple of susainer.Verse 153. and writer asks who is this sustainer and that is goddess. Strange so far in non of the Hindu text Hari, the term refred to Vishnu is used for demigoddess. Strange is further that Vammargi Shakta is doing such an innovativeness and that also while in misguiding Sikhs. Independently there is no such faith or such text exists in them. Any way who is that Hari, or Nihkanaki, we find answer in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.



(੧੪੦੩-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ
sathiguroo sathiguroo sathigur gubindh jeeo ||
The True Guru, the True Guru, the True Guru is the Lord of the Universe Himself.
3 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand


(੧੪੦੩-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਬਲਿਹਿ ਛਲਨ ਸਬਲ ਮਲਨ ਭਗ੍ਤਿ ਫਲਨ ਕਾਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਕੁਅਰ ਨਿਹਕਲੰਕ ਬਜੀ ਡੰਕ ਚੜ੍ਹੂ ਦਲ ਰਵਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ
balihi shhalan sabal malan bhagio falan kaanh kuar nihakalank bajee ddank charrhoo dhal ravindh jeeo ||
Enticer of Baliraja, who smothers the mighty, and fulfills the devotees; the Prince Krishna, and Kalki; the thunder of His army and the beat of His drum echoes across the Universe.
4 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand


(੧੪੦੩-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਰਾਮ ਰਵਣ ਦੁਰਤ ਦਵਣ ਸਕਲ ਭਵਣ ਕੁਸਲ ਕਰਣ ਸਰਬ ਭੂਤ ਆਪਿ ਹੀ ਦੇਵਾਧਿ ਦੇਵ ਸਹਸ ਮੁਖ ਫਨਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ
raam ravan dhurath dhavan sakal bhavan kusal karan sarab bhooth aap hee dhaevaadhh dhaev sehas mukh fanindh jeeo ||
The Lord of contemplation, Destroyer of sin, who brings pleasure to the beings of all realms, He Himself is the God of gods, Divinity of the divine, the thousand-headed king cobra.
5 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand


(੧੪੦੩-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਜਰਮ ਕਰਮ ਮਛ ਕਛ ਹੁਅ ਬਰਾਹ ਜਮੁਨਾ ਕੈ ਕੂਲਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਖੇਲਿਓ ਜਿਨਿ ਗਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ
jaram karam mashh kashh hua baraah jamunaa kai kool khael khaeliou jin gindh jeeo ||
He took birth in the Incarnations of the Fish, Tortoise and Wild Boar, and played His part. He played games on the banks of the Jamunaa River.
6 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand


(੧੪੦੩-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਰੁ ਹੀਏ ਧਾਰੁ ਤਜੁ ਬਿਕਾਰੁ ਮਨ ਗਯੰਦ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ
naam saar heeeae dhhaar thaj bikaar man gayandh sathiguroo sathiguroo sathigur gubindh jeeo ||4||9||
Enshrine this most excellent Name within your heart, and renounce the wickedness of the mind, O Gayand the True Guru, the True Guru, the True Guru is the Lord of the Universe Himself. ||4||9||
7 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand
(Ang 1403)

As per a book published by Kanwar Ajeet Singh Ji, we find that this line above from Dasham Granth Sahib talks about a temple of Kalki converted into mosque at Sambhal town of Uttar Pradesh.

Further we find that that as per verse 169 writer tries to prove that goddess has taken form to kill lower caste Shudras.

While the fact is that there is no caste but as per the way of Gurbani people have become lowly. Have a look.



(੧੩੩੦-, ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ, )
ਜਾਤਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਨਹ ਪੂਛੀਐ ਸਚ ਘਰੁ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਤਾਇ
jaath janam neh pooshheeai sach ghar laehu bathaae ||
God does not ask about social class or birth; you must find your true home.
8 Parbhaatee Guru Nanak Dev


(੧੩੩੦-, ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ, )
ਸਾ ਜਾਤਿ ਸਾ ਪਤਿ ਹੈ ਜੇਹੇ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਇ
saa jaath saa path hai jaehae karam kamaae ||
That is your social class and that is your status - the karma of what you have done.
8 Parbhaatee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1330)

While in the same Kalki Avtar we are told that people have become lowly due to lowly evil acts vide:

ਛਿਤ ਭਈ ਸੁੱਦ੍ਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਕਰਤ ਛੁੱਦ੍ਰ
Chhit bhai suddra|| Krit karat chhuddra||
All the people of the earth became Shudras and all were absorbed in base acts;
(Verse 163 Kalki Avtar)

Likewise various people with whom Kali fought are termed as Kshtriyas as they are armed.


ਬਜੇ ਘੋਰ ਬਾਜੇ ਧੁਣੰ ਮੇਘ ਲਾਜੇ ਖਹੇ ਖੇਤ ਖਤ੍ਰੀ ਤਜੇ ਤਾਣ ਪਤ੍ਰੀ ੪੨੪
Baje ghor baaje|| Dhunang megh laaje|| Khahe khet khatree|| Taje taan patree||424||
The dreadful war-drums sounded, hearing which the cloud felt shy; the Kshatriyas fought in the battlefield and pulling their bows, discharged the arrows.424.
Line 7


ਛੁਟੈ ਸ੍ਵਰਣ ਪੁੱਖੀ ਸੁਧੰਸਾਰ ਮੁੱਖੀ ਕਲੰਕੰ ਕਪਤ੍ਰੀ ਤਜੇ ਜਾਣ ਛਤ੍ਰੀ ੪੩੧
Chhutai svaran pukkhee|| Sudhansaar mukkhee|| Kalankang kapatree|| Taje jaan chhatree||431||
The arrows, with golden wings and steel tips, were discharged and in this way, the arrows with sharp tips were discharged on the Kshatriyas.431.
Line 14
(Kalki Avtar)

Fact is that these are a few examples only when term kshtriya is used against whom Kalki fights and they are termed as Sudras before due to lowly acts. Shankar varn here means mixture of two Professions which like low grade politicians.
 
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ਪੁੰਨ ਕਥਾ ਮੁਨਿ ਨੰਦਨ ਕੀ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਮੁਖ ਸੋ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਬਖਾਨੀ ਪੂਰਣ ਧਿਆਇ ਭਯੋ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਜਯ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਜਗਨਾਥ ਭਵੇਸ ਭਵਾਨੀ ੪੯੮
Punn kathaa mun(i) nandan kikah(i) kai mukh so kabi Syaam bakhaanee|| Pooran dhiaae bhayo tab hijaya sri jagnath bhaves bhavaanee||498||
In his way, the poet Shyam has described the episode of the great sage Dutt; this chapter is now being completed hailing the Lord of the world and the mother of the world.498.
Line 3

As per these lines

ਪੁੰਨ ਕਥਾ ਮੁਨਿ ਨੰਦਨ ਕੀ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਮੁਖ ਸੋ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਬਖਾਨੀ ਪੂਰਣ ਧਿਆਇ ਭਯੋ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਜਯ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਜਗਨਾਥ ਭਵੇਸ ਭਵਾਨੀ ੪੯੮
Punn kathaa mun(i) nandan kikah(i) kai mukh so kabi Syaam bakhaanee|| Pooran dhiaae bhayo tab hijaya sri jagnath bhaves bhavaanee||498||
In his way, the poet Shyam has described the episode of the great sage Dutt; this chapter is now being completed hailing the Lord of the world and the mother of the world.498.
Line 3

As per these lines we find term primal lord in first verse while lord/master of the universe in second. As been told before that manifestation of Akal in form is Bhavani.

Which is proved over here. We are told that Bhavani(maker of happening) is actually the lord of World and the lord of happening only. So here Akal is remembered as the manifestation of Bhavani/matter/visible energy giving birth to power.

Page 710: here writer commits grammatical blunders.

Rag Sorath(i) Patshahi 10 has “ocean of mercy, visionary of three times(past, present and future), doer of destruction of evil deeds” .While writer uses term Kal for God.

Rag Kaliyan Patshahi 10.. “From that all, no one came to protect from the saber stroke of Kal/God manifesting as death..

While writer tries to show Sarabkal ie all death.
Tilang Kafi Patshahi 10. only Kal/God is creator. Further in the same verse at last we are told about that God who has extended self in demons and demigods, in subjects and direction by which attribute of you should we take your name as slayer of Mura.

Page 711,715 talk of God while writer tires to prove it demigoddess while in all places we are told of formless and/or all pervading God.

In 33 Svayes we have First one talking about Khalsa. It was added later while in copies by Guru, we have 32 Svayyesonly(they will not have Khyal Patshahi 10 and Jaffernammah also).

In 7th Svvaye demigoddess as Sarada is referred as beholding God as truth so demigoddess is worshipper of Kal here. In 10th one we are told God saving those who are as per Puranic text, were saved by Vishnu like PRahlad, Ganika and Ajamil.

3rd Svvaye told Akal as living in all.

We have Masand mentioned as in negative terms 28th and 29th Savaye. This only a pro Sikh rather Guru of Sikhs could write.

Page809: Here writer talks of first Charitropakhayan and asks that why is there praise of demigoddess in first Charitropakhyan ?

So is that anything to do with demigoddess ?

In fact there is nowhere written at all this is praise of demigoddess. It is description of the characteristics of chandi/sword/one with speed/one with glory(there are many meaning of chand and chandi in mahan kosh).

So kindly read the first line of this Charitropakhyan and that solves the problem.

You only sharp edge of sword ,you only with (ability) to cut. You only arrow, saber, knife, dagger. Syrian(Sword), Armenian( Sword) , North African(Sword) you only. Where I see you stay there..1..

This is the clear cut case of Sikh God, who is Omni Visible(Everywhere seen) and does not applies to any demigoddess, and that manifests in weapons. Further to it no Hindu ever talks his demigod or demigoddess in any weapon and that also made in foreign land. They had an untouchability towards foreigners and they never went outside India at that time.

Next verse talks of God only is demigoddess, and three deities of Hindus.

Next verse has unprecedented thing regarding that God descending as faith(Path/Panth) into the creation/universe. You only make from mouth the Godism to be said..3..

Verse 4 talks of Vedas coming from the God
Verse 5 talks of acts of lion man and acts of pig god’s having land on his tusks attributed to God.

Verse 4 talks of Rama and Krishna’s act attributed to God.

Verse 9 has first line ,which makes an unprecedented revelation , you then do summery of codes making (me) happy.

Then when we see the verse 46.

First chapter sir sword(God) (I) describe the context of lady/mammon(in three qualities) . In my body you may crop up after being river (of) sentences in wave..46..

So when we go in for lesson of Politics, Diplomacy, Criminology, Warfare etc. dealing with rulers of the state, we find God manifested as sword ,the symbol of sovereign power being remembered first.

So no demigoddess over here.

Page 810: here some attribute to an entity are given and as per Dr Jodh Singh at end it is written that Kal/God nurtures that entity. So as per him that entity is other than God. Similar are the views of Dr Rattan Singh Jaggi.

But let us take what writer says and this is God. Like Mr Ambala, writer also mistakes when he understand page 41 also in wrong way. Let us take this verse 17 of First Charitropakhyan.

The garland of head(it is pineal gland or Tenth Door spreading like rosary around upper hemisphere of man and as per line that is God, unlike in Jainism and Buddhism,) , the cloath/sky/one who covers the directions ,Left hand( easy work) is pressure/weight of saber in neck(death on anyone is an easy job for God). The eyes of beloved dangerously looking shine in duality,(by this) glory sits of darkness. Children of this super dangerous, the gigantic, are librated, The light of broken path looks beautiful. The fire(pain) leaves, when serpent(of mammon) is in hand/control, good God/Kal always nourishes you..17..

Instead of any demigoddess spiritual meaning is given in here.

When pineal gland is activated by making it as cloth of direction. When we see God in us and out side us even beyond directions of creations, we are at ease(left hand grip) with fear of death(weight of sword of neck).(there is proverb in India , where something very easy is called left hand game).. Eyes of beloved(our eyes are not our but of God) are dangerous (as they with sense of vision make us attach with mammon) shine while we are in duality and light sits of darkness.. Children as librated from gigantic super dangerous, the light in broken path/line/queue looks beautiful. .When serpant is tamed the pain/fire leaves, good God always take cares of you..17..

So with further spiritual understanding bigger meanings may emerge. So writer’s further assertion about conspiracy to let Tenth Master be attached to worship of demigoddess is baseless. At end of this chapter 5 references from Shri Dasham Granth Sahib will be given which make worship of demigoddess unfit for Sikh.(for that book of Bhai Veer Singh Ji, Devi Pujan Partal has helped).

Page 813: here wrong interpretation of verse 46 of first Charitropakhyan is talked about by writer which is explained above.(Gyani Balbeer Singh Ji of saysatsriakal.com has helped to understand the meaning of tria).

Page 998: here we have a story about ladies rescuing the king trapped by enemy. Why has not writer given the courageous acts of ladies over here ? What is vulgar in this character ? line is that they all went for fight thinking what so ever God/Kal does will happen.(Verse 22) Writer puts demigoddess out of context here.

Page 1003: Here a King who worships Vishnu is befouled by his Shiv worshipping wife by concoting a story of miracle that god Shiv has thrown him off bed while he slept as he used bad words of Shiv. In fact it was his wife who did this. By fear King becomes worshipper of Shiv. As per great intellect of writer here poet tries to make a person worshipper of Shiv. With such a great self acclaimed scholars ,we could imagine the greatness of people opposing Shri Dasham Granth Sahib. It is clear from the story that Shiv did no miracle and only by lies we go in for miraculous power of Shiv and this takes the person off the Shiv worship. There are many stories in where we are told that worshippers of Shiv or demigoddess are immoral. Some miracles attributed to demigods or holy peers are just deceptions. Writer has commuted a blunder as he ignored verses from Charitropakhyan 266 and 405 which either proved Shiv inferior to God of Sikhs or Disrespect is shown to him. Verse 20,21,31-33,51,85,96,101,109,110,115,116 Charitropakhyan 266. Here verse 21 has fun Shiv being trapped in the reproductive organ of lady(Shiv Lingum is male organ from above and female organ below it). Then in Chritropakhan 405 we have Shiv being told separately from God Sikhs and even doing praise of the same. See the verses.80,82,98,383,384.

So by now it is clear that Shiv is shown different from Mahakal, the God of Sikh, who created universe with Onakar, Fact is that Akal makes universe with Onakar and Ek Oankar is only an attribute of Akal and this may not exist when creation is not there. Understanding of Ek Oankar from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is not as yet understood by writer and he tries to teach Shri Dasham Granth Sahib.

(੯੨੯-੧੭, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ਦਖਣੀ ਓਅੰਕਾਰੁ
raamakalee mehalaa 1 dhakhanee ouankaaru
Raamkalee, First Mehl, Dakhanee, Ongkaar:
17 null null


(੯੨੯-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
17 null null


(੯੨੯-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਅੰਕਾਰਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਉਤਪਤਿ
ouankaar brehamaa outhapath ||
From Ongkaar, the One Universal Creator God, Brahma was created.
18 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੨੯-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਅੰਕਾਰੁ ਕੀਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਚਿਤਿ
ouankaar keeaa jin chith ||
He kept Ongkaar in his consciousness.
18 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੨੯-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਅੰਕਾਰਿ ਸੈਲ ਜੁਗ ਭਏ
ouankaar sail jug bheae ||
From Ongkaar, the mountains and the ages were created.
18 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੨੯-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਅੰਕਾਰਿ ਬੇਦ ਨਿਰਮਏ
ouankaar baedh nirameae ||
Ongkaar created the Vedas.
18 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 929)


(੯੩੦-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਅੰਕਾਰਿ ਸਬਦਿ ਉਧਰੇ
ouankaar sabadh oudhharae ||
Ongkaar saves the world through the Shabad.
1 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੩੦-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਅੰਕਾਰਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੇ
ouankaar guramukh tharae ||
Ongkaar saves the Gurmukhs.
1 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੩੦-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਨਮ ਅਖਰ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ
ounam akhar sunahu beechaar ||
Listen to the Message of the Universal, Imperishable Creator Lord.
1 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੩੦-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਦਖਣੀ, )
ਓਨਮ ਅਖਰੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਸਾਰੁ
ounam akhar thribhavan saar ||1||
The Universal, Imperishable Creator Lord is the essence of the three worlds. ||1||
1 Raamkalee Dakhnee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 930)

We see That it is to do with creation. Writer without knowing the creature and living with the notion of deeming creation as God commits mistake to recognize God.

So in 130 Charitropakhyan neither Shiv nor his wife is being propagated to be worshipped but it is mere mistake of writer in comprehending the truth.
Page 1199 to page 1210: This deals with Chartropakhyan 266.

Issues raised by writer.

  • Did princess made Brahmin off the worship of Vishnu ,to go for worship of God of Sikhs/Mahakal ? Answer is no as shiv is also told to be not fit to be worshipped as mentioned above.
  • Is this Mahakal same as demigoddess ?
  • 800 dives into river ! How is it possible ?
  • Did this encourages drug or wine addiction ?
  • Is there any Triya Charitar as writer wants us to believe in making Brahmin worship Akal ?
So to answer the second question, we go in for one verse which writer has given in with wrong spaces.
Kabit . To one (they) shave off(the funds), from one they take fine, to one they put wooden rosary in neck. To one they let remember the spell, to one they let write the Jantra/mostly sketches of intended paranormal results ,to one they make aware of Tantras. To one tells the debate of knowledge, to other show the shamming slowly and sturdily takes away quantity . Who believes in mother(goddess) ? (one) that does not cajole super death(God of Sikhs), that fool believes in clay and die seeking from it..53..

So here the matter is understood by this time. Further there is a fact that goddess worshipper make mound of clay called pindis as a symbol of demigoddess, this mud worshipping latter gave birth to mother India or Bharat Mata worship by Hindus.

We have a proof of Demigoddess worship vide clay in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji also.

ਸਵੈਯਾ
Sawaiyaa||
SWAYYA
Line 8


ਲੈ ਅਪਨੇ ਕਰ ਜੋ ਮਿਟੀਆ ਤਿਹ ਥਾਪ ਕਹੈ ਮੁਖ ਤੇ ਜੁ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਪਾਇ ਪਰੈ ਤਿਹ ਕੇ ਹਿਤ ਸੋ ਕਰਿ ਕੋਟਿ ਪ੍ਰਨਾਮੁ ਕਹੈ ਇਹ ਬਾਨੀ
Lai apne kar jo miteeaa tih thaap kahai mukh te ju bhavaanee|| Paae parai tih ke hit so kar(i) kottee pranaam(u) kahai eh baanee||
Taking clay in their hands and installing the image of the goddess and bowing their heads at her feet, all of them are saying,
Line 9


ਪੂਜਤ ਹੈ ਇਹ ਤੇ ਹਮ ਤੋ ਤੁਮ ਦੇਹੁ ਵਹੈ ਜੀਅ ਮੈ ਹਮ ਠਾਨੀ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਹਮਰੋ ਭਰਤਾ ਹਰਿ ਜੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਕੋ ਸਸਿ ਸਾਨੀ ੨੪੩
Poojat hai eh te ham to tum dehu vahai jeea mai ham thaanee|| Hvai hamro bhartaa har(i) jimukh(i) sundar hai jih ko sas(u) saanee||243||
“O goddess! we worship you for bestowing the boon according t our heart’s desire, so that our husband be of the moonlike face of Krishna.243.
Line 10
(Krishna Avtar)

So this only proves that tantric rituals, goddess worshipping etc. is rejected here.

Answer 3: how could some one take 800 dives. Well such objection was raise by Ambala Sahib and befitting answer is given to him. Yet brief answer is given here.

Sai in Haryanani means is also then this may only make eight and not eight hundred. Yet if we deem it Atiotckti Alankar, High statement ornament of speech in Hindi poetry. That is made to let reader have an impression good deep into mind.

Let us give same being used in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

(੧੯੪-੧੭, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਉਚਰਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਲਖ ਾਰੀ
oucharahu raam naam lakh baaree ||
Utter thou the Name of the Pervading Lord, the hundred thousand times.
,
17 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 194)

So will writer go by literal meaning of the verse above.

Answer to 4th question does it encourages use of drugs or wine. Das has replied to the same writer in another article so that part is being pasted(kindly understand term comrade used for S. Dalbeer Singh Ji).
Then he cribs over the verse 125 of Charitropakhyan 266. Which is “by making him disciple of Mahakal , (made him) drink wine, cannabis..125.1..”

Here too he ignores the line succeeding this line.
By this deception, Brhamin was decived, got stone(idols) drown(in water).
by making him disciple of Mahakal , (made him) drink wine, cannabis..125.1..

There are many temples of Mahakal(of Shaktas) in Delhi, Comrade could go there. There is another very popular name of Mahakal(of Shaktas), the husband of Mahakali. But name Mahakal is not complete of the husband of Mahakali Bhairavi. That Mahakal of Shaktas is separately mentioned in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib. So called Hindu Mahakl worshipper is an idolater or even some time stone(pindi) worshiper.

The fact is Charitrpakhyan 266 has main part of dialogue between a Brahmin and a princess, In which she tells him the worthlessness of occult, worship of goddess and gods. After not winning her in debate, Brahmin accuses her of being under the influence of cannabis (verse 36). So as per Brahmin worship of formless is like drug. At last she succeeds in weaning him away from worship of demigods etc. Term usage of wine, cannabies signifies this only. In other parts of the Chartrpakyan 266, we do find a good lot of usage of term drugs just to signify Akal’s worship(Verse 38) or some time telling an idol worshipper lower then drug addict(verse 58,71)


(੭੨੧-੧੦, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
10 null null


(੭੨੧-੧੦, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਭਉ ਤੇਰਾ ਭਾਂਗ ਖਲੜੀ ਮੇਰਾ ਚੀਤੁ
bho thaeraa bhaang khalarree maeraa cheeth ||
The Fear of You, O Lord God, is my marijuana; my consciousness is the pouch which holds it.
10 Tilang Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 721)

.

(੯੬੯-੧੦, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਦਾਸੁ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਤਾਸੁ ਮਦ ਮਾਤਾ ਉਚਕਿ ਕਬਹੂ ਜਾਈ
dhaas kabeer thaas madh maathaa ouchak n kabehoo jaaee ||3||2||
Slave Kabeer is intoxicated with that wine, which never wears off. ||3||2||
10 Raamkalee Saint Kabir
(Ang 969)

So intoxication with cannabis or wine is used for devotion.

Like wise Gurmat does not talk of heaven but heaven in proximity of lord.


(੧੧੬੧-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਭਿਸਤ ਨਜੀਕਿ ਰਾਖੁ ਰਹਮਾਨਾ ੧੫
bhisath najeek raakh rehamaanaa ||4||7||15||
Keep me near You, O Merciful Lord God - that is heaven for me. ||4||7||15||
10 Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1161)

Just to comrade understand similarity here and verse from Chartropakhyan given above ie By making follower of God, Brahmin as if got cannabis, wine partaking.


Answer to last question deals with Verse 119 to 122 of 266 Charitropakhyan. Here after getting defeated in debate, Brahmin threatens her to be tied down by king. She tells him instead she will tell king that Brahmin has tried to put his hand on her(this may mean to subdue the princess of state) and will let his hand cut. Then after defeating him ideologically she also defeats him psychologically as often Brahmin do use this weapon of psychological warfare when they could not win the opponent by facts and truth. Calling princess a drug addict was another example of this.

Strange are sons of Guru, when Guru teaches them how to fight information warfare or propaganda warfare, they launch war in same dimension against Guru.

There after writer comes to Chartopakhyan 405.

He makes a few observation.

Fact is that some are mere repetition of issues rasied by Amabala Ji.

  • How could so many demons be there ?
Answer is that demons could be aliens, machine, prehistoric or other strange cratures and battlefield could be the whole space. Then number does not matter.(Machine like tanks are termed as horse in army, like wise aero planes are called eagle cart in Banger Area of Haryana and Rajasthan ) so such thing which are innovative are bound to come out from Guru.

  • Question is about Pathans etc in age of truth. Answer to this is already given while dealing with Krishna Avtar.
  • Is there any form of half man and women form of Shiva in here ?

Answer is that it is more an imagination and wishful thinking of the writer. As we have told before that Shiv is told lower than Sikh God in this Chartropakhyan so there is no need to repeat it. But Mahakal over here is told to be separate from demigoddess is also proved in here which writer is ignoring.

Term Jagmata anyway can also mean one who intoxicate the world(in mammon ) or God.

Mata means intoxicated also. Jagmata may means intoxicator of universe as in Japu Sahib we find Sarbang Karata meaning doer/creator of all.

(੭੪੯-੧੯, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਬੋਲਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਾਇਆ ਮਦਿ ਮਾਤਾ ਮਰਣਾ ਚੀਤਿ ਆਵੈ
bol n jaanai maaeiaa madh maathaa maranaa cheeth n aavai ||1||
The mortal being does not know how to chant Your Name - he is intoxicated with the wine of Maya, and the thought of death does not even enter his mind. ||1||
19 Soohee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 749)

Here we find mata is an object, but while in the case of Jagmata Jag is object, and mata verb becomes adjective/attribute to subject who is God. As the example Karta, Harta etc. are there in Jap Sahib, there term Lok Mata is used. Bow to Primal knowledge able , bow to intoxicator of world.

Coming to the case of demigoddess.

We find a lady called Dulaha Devi born out of glory, she finds no one fit to marry soshe worship God’s manifestation as intoxicator of world. God comes in that form and tells her that FORMLESS will marry her. She then sleeps and gets order from lord that she will be married once she kills breath seed demon.(verse 28 to 36)

Whole story is birth of humans mind after fight of good and bad, this mind wants to marry God or to be one. With conventional way of spells and machine/sketches she finds mammon as manifestation of God, who guides her further, but God tells her to kill breath seed demon first. When we think a lot we breath a lot, thoughts of mammon are having a seed in breath.

Then she finds herself unworthy to fight alone the mammon she surrenders self to God and God comes. Verse 51 to 56.

Then God fights and we are told about her again in verse 77, where it is Dulha Devi who is attacked by demons and she is told as Kali or blotted human spirit.

Then in verse 328 to 330, we find lots of musical instrument being told to be played. That happens before and during salvation.


(੯੮੮-੧੦, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਧਨਿ ਧੰਨਿ ਰਾਮ ਬੇਨੁ ਬਾਜੈ
dhhan dhhann ou raam baen baajai ||
Blessed, blessed is that flute which the Lord plays.
10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev


(੯੮੮-੧੦, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਮਧੁਰ ਮਧੁਰ ਧੁਨਿ ਅਨਹਤ ਗਾਜੈ ਰਹਾਉ
madhhur madhhur dhhun anehath gaajai ||1|| rehaao ||
The sweet, sweet unstruck sound current sings forth. ||1||Pause||
10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 998)



(੮੩੩-੧੪, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮਨੂਆ ਇਕਤੁ ਘਰਿ ਆਵੈ ਮਿਲਉ +ਪਾਲ ਨੀਸਾਨੁ ਬਜਈਆ
guramukh manooaa eikath ghar aavai milo guopaal neesaan bajeeaa ||5||
The mind of the Gurmukh returns to its own home; it meets the Lord of the Universe, to the beat of the celestial drum. ||5||
14 Bilaaval Guru Ram Das
(Ang 833)

So with all this thing in happening we find.

When in this way the battle happened. In day(light) dulha/sprit came out as wife(of God). Emblem making lion as vehicle stayed. Seeing that hordes of demon run away..331.. Here state of salvation is being told. The flag of controller of ferocious lion exists which make demons of mammon run away.

So as we see that there is no demigoddess at all over here.

Then we have the next question about so called body of This God. Just cutting and pasting from another article where writer is replied for the same issue.
Then comrade talks of God riding a chariot as per Charitropakhyan 405.

What about God riding Garuda?


(੧੧੬੬-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਗਰੁੜ ਚੜ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ਆਏ ਗੋਪਾਲ ੧੬
garurr charrhae aaeae gopaal ||16||
and the Lord came, mounted on the eagle garura. ||16||
4 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 1166)

Then comrade talks of bow and arrow in hand.

Let us similar thing in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.


(੯੮੮-੧੪, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ
kar dhharae chakr baikunth thae aaeae gaj hasathee kae praan oudhhaareealae ||
You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.
14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 988)

Before we proceed further Garuda or eagle over there is not Sabad or holy verses as verses and Akal are one and same. Garuda used spell only where there is a mention of serpent also.

Then about sweat coming out of God.

Well first let us talk of nose and hairs of God.



(੫੬੭-, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਤੇਰੇ ਬੰਕੇ ਲੋਇਣ ਦੰਤ ਰੀਸਾਲਾ
thaerae bankae loein dhanth reesaalaa ||
Your eyes are so beautiful, and Your teeth are delightful.
9 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev


(੫੬੭-, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਸੋਹਣੇ ਨਕ ਜਿਨ ਲੰਮੜੇ ਵਾਲਾ
sohanae nak jin lanmarrae vaalaa ||
Your nose is so graceful, and Your hair is so long.
9 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev


(੫੬੭-, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਕੰਚਨ ਕਾਇਆ ਸੁਇਨੇ ਕੀ ਢਾਲਾ
kanchan kaaeiaa sueinae kee dtaalaa ||
Your body is so precious, cast in gold.
9 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev


(੫੬੭-੧੦, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਸੋਵੰਨ ਢਾਲਾ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮਾਲਾ ਜਪਹੁ ਤੁਸੀ ਸਹੇਲੀਹੋ
sovann dtaalaa kirasan maalaa japahu thusee sehaeleeho ||
His body is cast in gold, and He wears Krishna's mala; meditate on Him, O sisters.
10 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev


(੫੬੭-੧੦, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਜਮ ਦੁਆਰਿ ਹੋਹੁ ਖੜੀਆ ਸਿਖ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਮਹੇਲੀਹੋ
jam dhuaar n hohu kharreeaa sikh sunahu mehaeleeho ||
You shall not have to stand at Death's door, O sisters, if you listen to these teachings.
10 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev


(੫੬੭-੧੧, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਹੰਸ ਹੰਸਾ ਬਗ ਬਗਾ ਲਹੈ ਮਨ ਕੀ ਜਾਲਾ
hans hansaa bag bagaa lehai man kee jaalaa ||
From a crane, you shall be transformed into a swan, and the filth of your mind shall be removed.
11 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev


(੫੬੭-੧੧, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ, )
ਬੰਕੇ ਲੋਇਣ ਦੰਤ ਰੀਸਾਲਾ
bankae loein dhanth reesaalaa ||7||
Your eyes are so beautiful, and Your teeth are delightful. ||7||
11 Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 567)

Comrade if you say that Bhagat Bani and Bhatt Swayyes are interpolation then what about the verse above unto the First Master.

Then das challenges you Oh! comrade who says that God has no body to tell that is there any Body which is not of God?

Coming to term Praset from verse 109 of Charitropakhyan. It may not means sweat only. Sweat is Prased also. But praset also could be derived from Prasoot or delivery. Let us talk of watery sweat only. Read the verse 196 of Charitropakhyan 405. We find God transparent like water. So such transparent body giving out such refractive visual object lead to the creation of bards.

(੩੮੭-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਓਪਤਿ ਪਰਲ ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਕਰਤਾ
oupath paralo khin mehi karathaa ||
He creates and destroys in an instant.
2 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 387)

Then some verse talk of anger attached to God see this instance of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.



(੬੫੮-੧੨, ਸੋਰਠਿ, ਭਗਤ ਰਵਿਦਾਸ ਜੀ)
ਕਹਿ ਰਵਿਦਾਸ ਉਦਾਸ ਦਾਸ ਮਤਿ ਪਰਹਰਿ ਕੋਪ ਕਰਹੁ ਜੀਅ ਦਇਆ
kehi ravidhaas oudhaas dhaas math parehar kop karahu jeea dhaeiaa ||3||3||
Says Ravi Daas, Your slave, O Lord, I am disillusioned and detached; please, spare me Your anger, and have mercy on my soul. ||3||3||
12 Sorith Saint Ravidas
(Ang 658)
Then useless opposition of Chaupayee Sahib is done.
After this two more issues are raised over here

  • some Hindu in his books says that Tenth Master was demigoddess worshipper.
Answer: what is an issue about the statement of non Sikhs Radhswamis, Niranlkaris etc give refernce from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to prove that it is OK presently to have Human Dehdhari Guru.

Likewise Kaliyan magazine of Gita Press Gorakhpur use reference of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to prove that Vishnu is worshipped there.

Lastly during Ram Setu controversy one page published by B L Sharama Prem had some lines from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, where it was written that these lines are supportive of worship of Lord Rama.

Like

(੯੭੦-੧੧, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਜਾਨੀ ਜਾਨੀ ਰੇ ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਮ ਕੀ ਕਹਾਨੀ
jaanee jaanee rae raajaa raam kee kehaanee ||
I have come to know the story of my Sovereign Lord.
11 Raamkalee Saint Kabir
(Ang 970)

There is great school of Hindutva guys who try their level best for such things then should we give up or oppose Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ? Maybe S. Dalbeer Singh Ji could do this with his same logic.


  • As Tenth Master gave Guruship to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so we should use the verse from them only in preaching/singing.

Answer :Very well then “Tenth Master giving Guruship to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji”, Sikh Salutation(Wahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh), Singh surname, 5 ks all will become null and void as non is mentioned in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, by this logic itself of writer we find his hypothecation self contradictory.

If Tenth Master’s giving of Guruship to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not in Shri Guru Granth Sahib, then it is not the act of Guru, then we could not behold that text only as Guru, if we go by S. Dalbeer Singh Ji.
 
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Who is the actual writer of this text?

In start we find that writer says that after the Tenth Master went to unite with Akal various fake texts in his name were made. So what there are texts like Karani Nammah, Nasihat Nammah, Pran Sangali etc associated with First Master yet not in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Fact is that whole of the text was there when Tenth Master was there and then it was called the book of Tenth Master. One such copy is at Patna Sahib and one such copy is in the possession of SGPC (this SGPC copies information is provided by Jathedar Takhat Harmandir Ji, Patna).

Both those copies are older then formation of Khalsa Panth and as a proof we have Jaffernammah, Khayal Patshahi Dasvi and First Svvaye of 33 Svvaye(Jagat Jot..) missing from them. As all these things come after Tenth Master left Anandpur Sahib.

Then writer gives three so called Brahmanical books as the base of this text. And he gives the name of Markandey Purana, Shrimad Bhagvat Purana and Shiv Purana. While the fact is that Puranas were written only for Shudras as they were not twice born so could not read Vedas. Further to it there are a great lot of difference between the Puranas mentioned above with the text of Shri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, Like only Umamahima and Devi Mahatam of Shiv Purana and Markandev Purana(both are similar) is taken for Chadni Chritras and that also not ditto either. In Chubeees Avtar only the 10th Skandh of Shrimad Bhagvat is taken while dealing with Krishna Avtar. Rest many things are unprecedented like telling Shiv as Avtar of Vishnu while in Shiv Purana we have Vishnu as Avtar of Shiv with name Kamal(we have talk about Mahakal Avtar in previous chapter, this is first and Kamal husband of Kamala is last out of ten Avtars), Sun and Moon are here told as Avtar of Vishnu. Nowhere it is written that Kal takes incarnations as of demigoddess or other 24 forms and next forms of Braham’s and Rurda’s Avtar.

Then writer does another blunder when he says that Chritropakhyans and Hiqayats are based upon Shiv Purana as where in Shiv Purana we have story of Dutch Lady(Valandej Dei) or Biblical story of Yusuf –Zulekha ? There is a story related to Aurangzeb’s doughter, another with son of Shiva Ji Maratha. Perhaps writer has not read the text at all.

Fact is that at end of Ram Avtar, Charitropakhyan 266 verses 23,101 and there could be more examples where Puranas are belittled .

ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA
Line 5


ਕੋਈ ਪੜ੍ਹਤ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਕੋ ਕੋਈ ਪੜ੍ਹਤ ਪੁਰਾਨ
Kooo pa?hat Kuraan ko kooo pa?hat Puraan||
Someone studies the Quran and someone studies the Puranas.
Line 6


ਕਾਲ ਸਕਤ ਬਚਾਇ ਕੈ ਫੋਕਟ ਧਰਮ ਨਿਦਾਨ ੪੭
Kaal na sakat bachaae kai phokat dharam nidaan||47||
Mere reading cannot save one from death. Therefore such works are vain and do not help at the time of death.47.
Line 7


ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaoo||
CHAUPAI
Line 8


ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਪੜ੍ਹਤ ਕੁਰਾਨਾ ਬਾਚਤ ਕਿਤੇ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਅਜਾਨਾ
Kaoo kottee mil(i) pa?hat Kuraanaa|| Baachat kite Puraan ajaanaa||
Millions of people recite the Quran and many study Puranas witout understanding the crux.
Line 9


ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲ ਕੋਈ ਕਾਮ ਆਵਾ ਦਾਵ ਕਾਲ ਕਾਹੂ ਬਚਾਵਾ ੪੮
Ant kaal kooo kaam na aavaa|| Daav kaal kaahoo na bachaavaa||48||
It will be of no use at the time of death and none will be saved.48.
Line 10
(Vachitar Natak chapter 6)

Then writer says that poet is of Tantric faith which is absurd.

Few examples of poets opposing Tantric faith are given and list is not exhaustive.



ਕਰੇ ਕੋਟ ਕੋਊ ਧਰੇ ਕੋਟ ਓਟੰ ਬਚੈਗੋ ਕਿਉਹੂੰ ਕਰੈ ਕਾਲ ਚੋਟੰ
Kare kot kooo dhare kot otang|| Bachaigo na kiuhoon karai kaal chotang||
Through one may erect millions of forts and may remain under their protection, even then, in the case of a blow of KAL, he will not be saved in any way.
Line 4


ਲਿਖੰ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਪੜ੍ਹੰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੋਟੰ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਰਨ ਤਾਂ ਕੀ ਨਹੀ ਔਰ ਓਟੰ ੬੧
Likhang jantra kete pa?hang mantra kotang|| Binaa saran taan koo nahoo aur otang||61||
Though one may write many Yantras and recite millions of mantras, even then he cannot be saved. No other shelter can save one without His refuge.61.
Line 5


ਲਿਖੰ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਥਾਕੇ ਪੜ੍ਹੰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਹਾਰੇ ਕਰੇ ਕਾਲ ਤੇ ਅੰਤ ਲੈ ਕੈ ਬਿਚਾਰੇ
Likhang jantra thaake pa?hang mantra haare|| Kare kaal te ant lai kai bichaare||
The writers of Yantras have grown weary and the reciters of mantras have accepted defeat. But ultimately, they all have been destroyed by KAL.
Line 6


ਕਿਤਿਓ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਸਾਧੇ ਜੁ ਜਨਮੰ ਬਿਤਾਇਓ ਭਏ ਫੋਕਟੰ ਕਾਜ ਏਕੈ ਆਇਓ ੬੨
Kitio tantra saadhe ju janamang bitaaio|| Bhae phokatang kaaj ekai na aaio||62||
Many Tantras have been tamed and in such endeavours one hath wasted his birth. All have become useless and none hath proved useful.62.
Line 7
(Vachitar Natak Sahib Chapter 1)
ਭੂਲ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਭਰਮ ਭੇਖ ਠਾਨੀਐ ੧੦੪
Na bhool jantra tantra mantra bharam bhekh thaaneeai||1||104||
Even by mistake He should not be considered in Yantras, tantrasa, mantras, illusions and guises.1.104.
Line 7
(Gyan Prabodh Sahib)

ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਰਿਝਾਯਾ
Jantra mantra tantra na rijhaayaa||
None of the Yantras, Mantras and Tantras please Thee;
Line 2


ਭੇਖ ਕਰਤ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨਹਿ ਪਾਯਾ ੧੭
Bhekh karat kinhoon nah(i) paayaa||17||
And none could realise Thee by adopting different guises.17.
Line 3
(Chaubees Avtar Sahib)

Chartropakhyan Sahib 266, verses 35,114

(while writing by will of God it has come to mind that in future term Sahib will be attached to all parts of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, the references used before without postfix Sahib were written before this instance and may Akal forgive for this mistake but in future proper care will be taken in this regard).

Then he talks of a conspiracy that Anti Sikh forces have interpolated term Patshahi Dasvi to misguide Sikhs.

Issues he raises as follow:

  • There has been use of term Mahala in past.
  • The term Nanak is not used.
  • Parbrahm Bhavani means demigoddess is termed as Parbrahm
  • Usage of Rajasthan’s Dingal and Braj dialect while Guru was mostly living in Punjab.
  • Names of poet as Ram, Syam and Kal ?
  • Vulgar mentality with usage of Vammargi language.

So let us take 1st question :

In here writer says that just to misguide Sikhs Anti Sikh guys have cleverly put in Patshai Dasvi while there deception is cought by clver people like writer with name of Syam etc. appearing and no usage of Mahala.

While the fact is that the reason for the Fifth Master did compile Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was that he came to know that some people were using name Nanak in verse which were not at all unto Gurus. There are many veres otherwise also which are not included in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji therefore not deemed authentic by people like writer but have term Mahala and Nanak name as poet.

If people could do such deception in past and there are still many people who consider such text as the work of Guru, then those Anti Sikhs forces should have followed the precedent already in action to misguide the Sikhs successfully then to go in for such a way which could make them caught so easily. Example of such text could be Bhai Bala Janam Sakhi, Nasihat Nammah, Paintees Akhari(outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) etc.

So from above example we find that there are verses with poet name as Nanak and Mahla also written but could not be proved to be authentic by many.

While in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, we have some examples where name Nanak is not at all used.


(੪੬੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਮਹਲਾ
mehalaa 2 ||
Second Mehl:
1 null null


(੪੬੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਜੇ ਸਉ ਚੰਦਾ ਉਗਵਹਿ ਸੂਰਜ ਚੜਹਿ ਹਜਾਰ
jae so chandhaa ougavehi sooraj charrehi hajaar ||
If a hundred moons were to rise, and a thousand suns appeared,
1 Aasaa Guru Angad Dev


(੪੬੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਏਤੇ ਚਾਨਣ ਹੋਦਿਆਂ ਗੁਰ ਬਿਨੁ ੋਰ ਅੰਧਾਰ
eaethae chaanan hodhiaaan gur bin ghor andhhaar ||2||
even with such light, there would still be pitch darkness without the Guru. ||2||
1 Aasaa Guru Angad Dev
(Ang 463)

Then verses without Mahala
(੫੩੧-, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ
dhaevagandhhaaree 5 ||
Dayv-Gandhaaree, Fifth Mehl:
1 null null


(੫੩੧-, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਮਾਈ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਵੈ
maaee jo prabh kae gun gaavai || safal aaeiaa jeevan fal thaa ko paarabreham liv laavai ||1|| rehaao ||
O mother, how fruitful is the birth of one who sings the Glories of God, and enshrines love for the Supreme Lord God. ||1||Pause||
1 Dev Gandhaaree Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 531)

Then what about Japu Ji Sahib ?

Then what does Patshahi means and what does Mahala means ?

Former means emperorship while later means palace. Both signify the ruler which in this case is Akal, the God. Fact is that like we have press release of Bucking Ham Palace will mean the saying of ruler so which mean the saying to queen.

Then if Tenth Master could have surname “Singh” unlike the previous nine Masters then why can not he use this title of Patshahi Dasvi.

Can writer dare control the authority of the Tenth Master ?

Coming to usage of Mahla often by Six Masters. Fifth Master used this Mahala word for himself, then why can not Ninth Master use the same for him. Then if Tenth Master gets the verse unto Ninth Master,which have Mahal Nauvan(9th) written on them, then there is no way he could change it. Yes he could have his own style. Further to it as per some missionary how could the Ninth Master be careless that he does not places his own verses into Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? So Tenth Master only prepared the copies of that final version at Damdam Sahib, so they are called Damdami version.

But even if we go by convention, if Ninth Master gives his heading the term Mahala, Tenth Master will respect the Ninth Master and let Mahala remain but he could change his work.

Likewise he may not add his verses in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, as he is second compiler unlike the Fifth Master, who was the original compiler so Fifth Master may not find reluctance to add his own verse while as mark of respect to elder Tenth Master may not add his verses.

Another reason could be adding in whole of his work will make volume too much, with divergent subjects that it would be difficult to handle, carry or to study in those times when Sikhs are at constant wars.

Then if he had added even one of his verse in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, then people like writer would have said that only that verse is authentic rest is not.

Then why is not word Nanak used and why names like Ram, Syam and Kal are given.

As we all know that Gurbani is words of God.


(੭੨੨-੧੬, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਤਿਲੰਗ ਮਹਲਾ
thilang mehalaa 1 ||
Tilang, First Mehl:
16 null null


(੭੨੨-੧੬, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਜੈਸੀ ਮੈ ਆਵੈ ਖਸਮ ਕੀ ਾਣੀ ਤੈਸੜਾ ਕਰੀ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਵੇ ਲਾਲੋ
jaisee mai aavai khasam kee baanee thaisarraa karee giaan vae laalo ||
As the Word of the Forgiving Lord comes to me, so do I express it, O Lalo.
16 Tilang Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 722)

Yet many people by the time of Guru had started the personal worship of First Master, due to the word Nanak in Shri Guru Granth Sahib like Udasis, Nanak Shahi Hindus and perhaps rebels like Hindaliyes, Dheermaliye, Mine, Ramraye etc as their heads them selves wanted the followers to worship them(heads) so they started this with one at peak ie Baba Nanak, Present Day Sants also follow same policy.

To undo this it was made clear cut that this is the work of God and not Human, name of God are used.

First let us see what Tenth Master say about his being one with God.


ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਕਰਤ ਤਪਸਿਆ ਭਯੋ ਦ੍ਵੈ ਤੇ ਏਕ ਰੂਪ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਗਯੋ
Ih bidh(i) karat tapasiaa bhayo|| Dvai te ek roop hvai gayo||
In this way, my meditation reached its zenith and I became One with the Omnipotent Lord.

Page 132, Line 6
(Vachitar Natak Sahib, 6.3)

ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaoo||
CHAUPI

Page 136, Line 12


ਇਹ ਕਾਰਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਮੋਹਿ ਪਠਾਯੋ ਤਬ ਮੈ ਜਗਤ ਜਨਮ ਧਰਿ ਆਯੋ
Ih karan(i) Prabh moh(i) pathaayo|| Tab mai jagat janam dhar(i) aayo||
For this reason the Lord sent me and I was born in this world.

Page 136, Line 13


ਜਿਮ ਤਿਨ ਕਹੀ ਤਿਨੈ ਤਿਮ ਕਹਿਹੋਂ ਅਉਰ ਕਿਸੂ ਤੇ ਬੈਰ ਗਹਿਹੋਂ ੩੧
Jim tin kahoo tinai tim kahihon|| Aur kisoo te bair na gahihon||31||
Whatever the Lord said, I am repeating the same unto you, I do not bear enmity with anyone.31.

Page 136, Line 14

(Vachitar Natak Sahib, 6.31)

ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜਗਤਿ ਕਹਾ ਸੋ ਕਹਿਹੋਂ ਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਲੋਕ ਤੇ ਮੋਨ ਰਹਿਹੋਂ ੩੩
Jo Prabh jagat(i) kahaa so kahihon|| Mrit lok te mon na rahihoaan||33||
Whatever the Lord of the world said, I say the same unto you, I cannot remain silent in this abode of death.33.

Page 137, Line 4
(Vachitar Natak Sahib, 6.33)


ਜਟਾ ਸੀਸ ਧਾਰਿਹੋਂ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਕਾ ਸੁਧਾਰਿਹੋਂ
Jataa na soos dhaarihon|| Na mundrakaa sudhaarihon||
I do not wear matted hair on my head, nor do I put rings in my ears.

Page 137, Line 10


ਕਾਨ ਕਾਹੂ ਕੀ ਧਰੋਂ ਕਹਿਓ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੁ ਮੈ ਕਰੋਂ ੩੬
Na kaan kaahoo koo dharon|| Kahio Prabhoo su mai karon||36||
I do not pay attention to anyone else, all my actions are at the bidding of the Lord.36.

Page 137, Line 11


ਭਜੋਂ ਸੁ ਏਕ ਨਾਮਯੰ ਜੁ ਕਾਮ ਸਰਬ ਠਾਮਯੰ
Bhajon sue k naamayang|| Ju kaam sarab thaamayang||
I recite only the Name of the Lord, which is useful at all places.

Page 137, Line 12


ਜਾਪ ਆਨ ਕੋ ਜਪੋ ਅਉਰ ਥਾਪਨਾ ਥਪੋ ੩੭
Na jaap aan ko jaapo|| Na aur thaapnaa thapo||37||
I do not meditate on anyone else, nor do I seek assistance from any other quarter.37.

Page 137, Line 13


ਬਿਅੰਤ ਨਾਮ ਧਿਆਇ ਹੋਂ ਪਰਮ ਜੋਤਿ ਪਾਇ ਹੋਂ
Biant naam dhiaae hon|| Param jot(i) paae(i) hon||
I recite infinite Names and attain the Supreme light.

Page 137, Line 14

ਧਿਆਨ ਆਨ ਕੋ ਧਰੋਂ ਨਾਮ ਆਨ ਉਚਰੋਂ ੩੮
Na dhiaan aan ko dharon|| Na naam aan ucharon||38||
I do not meditate on anyone else, nor do I repeat the Name of anyone else.38.

Page 138, Line 1


ਤਵੱਕ ਨਾਮ ਰੱਤਿਯੰ ਆਨ ਮਾਨ ਮੱਤਿਯੰ
Tavakk naam rattiyaang|| Na aan maan mattiyang||
I am absorbed only in the Name of the Lord, and honour none else.

Page 138, Line 2


ਪਰੱਮ ਧਿਆਨ ਧਾਰੀਯੰ ਅਨੰਤ ਪਾਪ ਟਾਰੀਯੰ ੩੯
Paramm dhiaan dhaaroohang|| Anant paap taariyang||39||
By meditating on the Supreme, I am absolved of infinite sins.39.

Page 138, Line 3


ਤੁਮੇਵ ਰੂਪ ਰਾਚਿਯੰ ਆਨ ਦਾਨ ਮਾਚਿਯੰ
Tumev roop raachiyang|| Na aan daan maachiyang||
I am absorbed only in His Sight, and do not attend to any other charitable action.

Page 138, Line 4


ਤਵੱਕ ਨਾਮ ਉਚਾਰਿਯੰ ਅਨੰਤ ਦੂਖ ਟਾਰਿਯੰ ੪੦
Tavakk naam uchaariyang|| Anant dookh taariyang||40||
By uttering only His Name, I am absolved of infinite sorrows.40.

Page 138, Line 5
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 6.36-40)


ਇਹ ਕਾਰਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਹਮੈ ਬਨਾਯੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਭਾਖਿ ਇਹੁ ਲੋਕ ਪਠਾਯੋ
Eh kaaran Prabh(u) hamai banaayo|| Bhed(u) bhaakh(i) eh(u) lok pathaayo||
For this reason the Lord created me and sent me in this world, telling me the secret.

Page 139, Line 13


ਜੋ ਤਿਨ ਕਹਾ ਸੁ ਸਭਨ ਉਚਰੋਂ ਡਿੰਭ ਵਿੰਭ ਕਛੁ ਨੈਕ ਕਰੋਂ ੫੦
Jo tin kahaa su sabhan ucharon|| ?inbh vinbh kachh(u) naik na karon||50||
Whatever He told me, I say unto you, there is not even a little heresay in it.50.

Page 139, Line 14

(Vachitar Natak Sahib 6.50)
ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA

Page 141, Line 8


ਜੋ ਨਿਜ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਮੋ ਸੋ ਕਹਾ ਸੋ ਕਹਿਹੋਂ ਜਗ ਮਾਹਿ
Jo nij Prabh mo so kahaa so kahihon jag maah(i)||
Whatever my Lord said to me, I say the same in the world.

Page 141, Line 9


ਜੋ ਤਿਹ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਧਿਆਇ ਹੈ ਅੰਤ ਸੁਰਗ ਕੋ ਜਾਹਿ ੫੯
Jo tih Prabh ko dhiaae hai ant surg ko jaah(i)||59||
Those who have meditated on the Lord, ultimately go to heaven.59.

Page 141, Line 10

(Vachitar Natak Sahib 6.59)

Reason for his not using his Name Nanak is by the fact that in case this happened then later one people would have started to worship him as happened in other cases as told below.(He rather made people stop the personal worship of Baba Nanak with writing his text).



ਸਭ ਅਪਨੀ ਅਪਨੀ ਉਰਝਾਨਾ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਾਹੂ ਪਛਾਨਾ
Sabh apniapniurjhaanaa|| Paarbhaanaa kaahoo na pachhaanaa||
Everyone placed his own interest first and foremost and did not comprehend the Supreme Brahman.

Page 136, Line 2


ਤਪ ਸਾਧਤ ਹਰਿ ਮੋਹਿ ਬੁਲਾਯੋ ਇਮ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਇਹ ਲੋਕ ਪਠਾਯੋ ੨੮
Tap saadhat Har(i) moh(i) bulaayo|| Im kah(i) kai eh lok pathaayo||28||
When I was busy in the austere devotion, the Lord called me and sent me to this world with the following words.28.

Page 136, Line 3

(Vachitar Natak Sahib, 6.28)

ਜੇ ਜੇ ਭਏ ਪਹਿਲ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ਆਪੁ ਆਪੁ ਤਿਨ ਜਾਪੁ ਉਚਾਰਾ
Je je bhae pahil avtaaraa|| aap(u) aap(u) tin jaap(u) uchaaraa||
All the earlier incarnations caused only their names to be remembered.

Page 138, Line 13


ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦੋਖੀ ਕੋਈ ਬਿਦਾਰਾ ਧਰਮ ਕਰਨ ਕੋ ਰਾਹੁ ਡਾਰਾ ੪੪
Prabh dokhoo kooo na bidaaraa|| Dharam karan ko raah(u) na ?aaraa||44||
They did not strike the tyrants and did not make them follow th path of Dharma.44.

Page 138, Line 14

(Vachitar Natak Sahib, 6.44)


He tells that of someone calls him God then that person will God to lake of hell(6.32 Vachitar Natak Sahib)

Further before Guru also gives more info about Words from God.


ਅਬ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਮੈਂ ਲਖੇ ਤਮਾਸਾ ਸੋ ਸੋ ਕਰੋ ਤੁਮੈ ਅਰਦਾਸਾ
Ab jo jo main lakhe tamaasaa|| So so karo tumai ardaasaa||
All hose spectacles which have been visualized by me, I dedicate all of them to Thee.

Page 173, Line 13


ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਟਾਛ ਦਿਖੈਹੈ ਸੋ ਤਵ ਦਾਸ ਉਚਾਰਤ ਜੈਹੈ
Jo Prabh kirpaa kataachh dikhaihai|| So tav daas uchaarat jaihai||3||
If Thou castest Thy Merciful glance at me, then Thy Servant shall utter all.3.

Page 173, Line 14

ਜਿਹ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਮੈ ਲਖੇ ਤਮਾਸਾ ਚਾਹਤ ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਕੀਯੋ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਾ
Jih jih bidh mai lakhe tamaasaa|| Chaahat tin ko kooo prakaasaa||
The kinds of spectacles that I have seen, I want to enlighten (the world) about them.

Page 174, Line 1


ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਨਮ ਪੂਰਬਲੇ ਹੇਰੇ ਕਹਿਹੋ ਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਰਾਕ੍ਰਮ ਤੇਰੇ
Jo jo janam poorbale bere|| Kahiho su Prabh(u) praakram tere||4||
All the past lives that have peeped into, I shall speak about them with Thy Power.4.

Page 174, Line 2
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 14.3 and 14.4)


ਮਨੂਆ ਗੁਰ ਮੁਰਿ ਮਨਸਾ ਮਾਈ ਜਿਨ ਮੋ ਕੋ ਸੁਭ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਪੜ੍ਹਾਈ
Manooaa gur mur(i) mansaa maaoo|| Jin mo ko subh kriaa pa?haaoo||5||
The mind is my Guru and the discriminating intellect, the Guru’s wife is my mother, who hath taught me all about good deeds.5.

Page 174, Line 4


ਜਬ ਮਨਸਾ ਮਨ ਮਯਾ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਮਨੂਆ ਕਹ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਸੁਧਾਰੀ
Jab mansaa man mayaa bichaaroo|| Gur manooaa kah kahiyo sudhaaroo||
When I (as mind) reflected on the kindness of the discriminating intellect, the Guru0mind uttered his refined statement.

Page 174, Line 5


ਜੇ ਜੇ ਚਰਿਤ ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਨਹੇ ਤੇ ਤੇ ਅਬ ਚਹੀਅਤ ਹੈ ਕਹੇ
Je je charit puraatan lahe|| Te te ab chahooat hai kahe||6||
All the wonderful things that were comprehended by the ancient sages, I want to speak about all of them.6.

Page 174, Line 6


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਕਰਣਾ ਤਬ ਭਰੇ ਸੇਵਕ ਜਾਨ ਦਯਾ ਰਸ ਢਰੇ
Sarab kaal karnaa tab bhare|| Sevak jaan dayaa ras ?hare||
Then my Lord, Destroyer of all, was filled with kindness and considering me as His servant, He was gracefully pleased.

Page 174, Line 7


ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਨਮ ਪੂਰਬਲੋ ਭਯੋ ਸੋ ਸੋ ਸਭ ਸਿਮਰਣ ਕਰ ਦਯੋ
Jo jo janam poorbalo bhayo|| So so sabh simran kar dayo||7||
The births of all the incarnations in the previous ages, He hath caused me to remember all of them.7.

Page 174, Line 8


ਮੋ ਕੌ ਇਤੀ ਹੁਤੀ ਕਹ ਸੁੱਧੰ ਜਸ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦਈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਿ ਬੁੱਧੰ
Mo kau itoo hutoo kah suddhang|| Jas Prabh daoo kripaa kar(i) buddhang||
How could I have all this information? The Lord mercifully gave such intellect.

Page 174, Line 9


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਤਬ ਭਏ ਦਇਆਲਾ ਲੋਹ ਰਛ ਹਮ ਕੋ ਸਬ ਕਾਲਾ
Sarab kaal tab bhae daiaalaa|| Loh rachh ham ko sab kaalaa||8||
My Lord, the Destroyer of all, then became Benevolent, At all times, I gave the Protection of at that steel-incarnated Lord.8.

Page 174, Line 10


ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਰੱਛਾ ਸਬ ਕਾਲ ਲੋਹ ਰੱਛ ਸਰਬਦਾ ਬਿਸਾਲ
Sarab kaal rachchhaa sab kaal|| Loh rachchh sarbadaa bisaal||
At all times, Lord, Destroyer of all, protects me. That All-Pervading Lord is my Protector like Steel.

Page 174, Line 11


ਢੀਠ ਭਯੋ ਤਵ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਲਖਾਈ ਐਂਡੋ ਫਿਰੋ ਸਭਨ ਭਯੋ ਰਾਈ
?hooth bhayo tav kripaa lakhaaoo|| Ain?o phiro sabhan bhayo raaoo||9||
Comprehending Thy Kindness, I have become fearless and in my pride, I consider myself as the king of all. 9.

Page 174, Line 12


ਜਿਹ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਜਨਮਨ ਸੁਧਿ ਆਈ ਤਿਮ ਤਿਮ ਕਹੇ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਬਨਾਈ
Jih jih bidh janman sudh(i0 aaoo|| Tim tim kahe giranth bannoo||
The way in which I came to know about the births of incarnations, in the same manner, I have rendered them in books.

Page 174, Line 13


ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਲਹਾ ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਦੇਬਿ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਕੋ ਕਹਾ ੧੦
Prathme satijug jih bidh(i) lahaa|| Prathme deb(i) charitra ko kahaa||10||
The way, in which I came to know about Satyuga, I have narrated it in the first poem of the miraculous feats of the goddess.10.

Page 174, Line 14
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 14.5-10)

Likewise in Chartropakhyan Sahib 1, verse 46, God is prayed to come out like wave of river of sentences.

Then name of God over here is Kal,Syam and Ram see the examples below.



ਕਹੂੰ ਦੇਵਬਾਨੀ ਕਹੂੰ ਸਾਰਦਾ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਕਹੂੰ ਮੰਗਲਾ ਮਿੜਾਨੀ ਕਹੂੰ ਸਿਆਮ ਕਹੂੰ ਸੇਤ ਹੋ
Kahoon devbaanoo kahoon Saardaa Bhavaanoo kahoon Manglaa miraanookahoon siaam kahoon set ho||
Somewhere Thou art the divine speech, somewhere Sarada and Bhavani, somewhere Durga, the trampler of corpses, somewhere in black colour and somewhere in white colour.
Line 9
(Akalustat Sahib ..4..14..)


ਸੁਭੰ ਰੂਪ ਸਿਆਮ ਮਹਾ ਸੋਭ ਧਾਮੰ
Subhang roop siaamang|| Mahaa sobh dhaamang||
His dark form looks elegant and is the abode of Great Glory.
Line 1
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 1.34)


(੧੩੬੪-, ਚਉਬੋਲੇ, )
ਕਮਲ ਨੈਨ ਅੰਜਨ ਸਿਆਮ ਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਬਦਨ ਚਿਤ ਚਾਰ
kamal nain anjan siaam chandhr badhan chith chaar ||
My Lord has lotus-eyes; His Face is so beautifully adorned.
7 Chaubolay Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1364)

(Tern Anjan here refers to mammon and with term Siam or dark Akal manifest self in mammon )
(੧੨੫੩-੧੪, ਸਾਰਗ, ਭਗਤ ਸੂਰਦਾਸ ਜੀ, )
ਸਿਆਮ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਤਜਿ ਆਨ ਜੁ ਚਾਹਤ ਜਿਉ ਕੁਸਟੀ ਤਨਿ ਜੋਕ
siaam sundhar thaj aan j chaahath jio kusattee than jok ||
But one who forsakes the elegantly beautiful Lord, and harbors desire for anything else, is like a leech on the body of a leper.
14 Sarang Saint Soordas
(Ang 1253)
In previous parts referances for Shri Guru Granth Sahib with usage of Kal is given while term Ram could be see in Japu Ji Sahib(Ang 8) also for Akal.


ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI
Line 4


ਇਨ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਸੁ ਦਸ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ
In maih sristtee su das avtaaraa||
In this creation is included the world and the ten incarnations;
Line 5


ਜਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਰਮਿਯਾ ਰਾਮ ਹਮਾਰਾ
Jin maih ramiyaa Raam hamaaraa||
Within them pervades our Lord;
Line 6


ਅਨਤ ਚਤੁਰਦਸ ਗਨ ਅਵਤਾਰੂ
Anat chaturdas gan avtaaroo||
Besides ten, other fourteen incarnations are also reckoned;
Line 7


ਕਹੋ ਜੁ ਤਿਨ ਤਿਨ ਕੀਏ ਅਖਾਰੂ
Kaho ju tin tin keee akhaaroo||4||
And I describe the performance of all them.4.
Line 8
(Chaubees Avtar Sahib verse 4)

ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI
Line 1


ਅੰਤ ਕਰਤ ਸਭ ਜਗ ਕੋ ਕਾਲਾ
Ant karat sabh jag ko kaalaa||
At time Thou destroyest the universe;
Line 2


ਨਾਮੁ ਕਾਲ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਗ ਡਾਲਾ
Naam(u) kaal taa te jag ?aalaa||
Therefore the world hath named you KAL (the Destroyer Lord);
Line 3


ਸਮੈ ਸੰਤ ਪਰ ਹੋਤ ਸਹਾਈ
Samai sant par hot sahaaee||
Thou hast been helping all the saints;
Line 4


ਤਾ ਤੇ ਸੰਖਯਾ ਸੰਤ ਸੁਨਾਈ
Taa te sankhyaa sant sunaaee||9||
Therefore the saints have reckoned Thy incarnations.9.
Line 5

(Chaubees Avtar Sahib verse 9)

So by not using name Nanak and using the names for did let the Tenth Master instruct the world that they should not deem Shri Guru Granth Sahib, as work of any human but of God and no personal worship of Baba Nanak is needed.

Then coming to the problem of related Dingal style of Rajsthan and Braj Bhasha, why did Guru used this ? while he did much of his life in Punjab.

Before we move further, there is a question to writer.

We have Var Durga Ki, Khyal Patshahi Dasvi, Part of Charitropakhyan 12 ie Verse 6 in Punjabi, then by this logic will writer take it as work of Tenth Master.

Let us give some examples from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.


(੭੨੩-੧੨, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਤਿਲੰਗ ਮਹਲਾ ਘਰੁ
thilang mehalaa 5 ghar 1
Tilang, Fifth Mehl, First House:
13 null null


(੭੨੩-੧੩, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
13 null null


(੭੨੩-੧੩, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਖਾਕ ਨੂਰ ਕਰਦੰ ਆਲਮ ਦੁਨੀਆਇ
khaak noor karadhan aalam dhuneeaae ||
The Lord infused His Light into the dust, and created the world, the universe.
13 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੪, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਅਸਮਾਨ ਜਿਮੀ ਦਰਖਤ ਆਬ ਪੈਦਾਇਸਿ ਖੁਦਾਇ
asamaan jimee dharakhath aab paidhaaeis khudhaae ||1||
The sky, the earth, the trees, and the water - all are the Creation of the Lord. ||1||
14 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੪, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਬੰਦੇ ਚਸਮ ਦੀਦੰ ਫਨਾਇ
bandhae chasam dheedhan fanaae ||
O human being, whatever you can see with your eyes, shall perish.
14 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੪, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਦੁਨਂ​ *ੀਆ ਮੁਰਦਾਰ ਖੁਰਦਨੀ ਗਾਫਲ ਹਵਾਇ ਰਹਾਉ
dhunanaeeaa muradhaar khuradhanee gaafal havaae || rehaao ||
The world eats dead carcasses, living by neglect and greed. ||Pause||
14 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੫, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਗੈਬਾਨ ਹੈਵਾਨ ਹਰਾਮ ਕੁਸਤਨੀ ਮੁਰਦਾਰ ਬਖੋਰਾਇ
gaibaan haivaan haraam kusathanee muradhaar bakhoraae ||
Like a goblin, or a beast, they kill and eat the forbidden carcasses of meat.
15 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੫, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਦਿਲ ਕਬਜ ਕਬਜਾ ਕਾਦਰੋ ਦੋਜਕ ਸਜਾਇ
dhil kabaj kabajaa kaadharo dhojak sajaae ||2||
So control your urges, or else you will be seized by the Lord, and thrown into the tortures of hell. ||2||
15 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੬, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਵਲੀ ਨਿਆਮਤਿ ਬਿਰਾਦਰਾ ਦਰਬਾਰ ਮਿਲਕ ਖਾਨਾਇ
valee niaamath biraadharaa dharabaar milak khaanaae ||
Your benefactors, presents, companions, courts, lands and homes
16 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੬, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਜਬ ਅਜਰਾਈਲੁ ਬਸਤਨੀ ਤਬ ਚਿ ਕਾਰੇ ਬਿਦਾਇ
jab ajaraaeel basathanee thab ch kaarae bidhaae ||3||
- when Azraa-eel, the Messenger of Death seizes you, what good will these be to you then? ||3||
16 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੭, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਹਵਾਲ ਮਾਲੂਮੁ ਕਰਦੰ ਪਾਕ ਅਲਾਹ
havaal maaloom karadhan paak alaah ||
The Pure Lord God knows your condition.
17 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੨੩-੧੭, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਬੁਗੋ ਨਾਨਕ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਪੇਸਿ ਦਰਵੇਸ ਬੰਦਾਹ
bugo naanak aradhaas paes dharavaes bandhaah ||4||1||
O Nanak, recite your prayer to the holy people. ||4||1||
17 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 723)

Over here we find usage of Farsi.


(੧੩੫੩-੧੫, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਸਲੋਕ ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ ਮਹਲਾ
salok sehasakirathee mehalaa 5
Shalok Sehskritee , Fifth Mehl:
15 null null


(੧੩੫੩-੧੬, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sath naam karathaa purakh nirabho niravair akaal moorath ajoonee saibhan gur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. Truth Is The Name. Creative Being Personified. No Fear. No Hatred. Image Of The Undying. Beyond Birth. Self-Existent. By Guru's Grace:
15 null null


(੧੩੫੩-੧੭, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਕਤੰਚ ਮਾਤਾ ਕਤੰਚ ਪਿਤਾ ਕਤੰਚ ਬਨਿਤਾ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਸੁਤਹ
kathanch maathaa kathanch pithaa kathanch banithaa binodh sutheh ||
Who is the mother, and who is the father? Who is the son, and what is the pleasure of marriage?
17 Sehaskritee Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੩੫੩-੧੭, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਕਤੰਚ ਭ੍ਰਾਤ ਮੀਤ ਹਿਤ ਬੰਧਵ ਕਤੰਚ ਮੋਹ ਕੁਟੰਬ੍ਯ੍ਯਤੇ
kathanch bhraath meeth hith bandhhav kathanch moh kuttanbyathae ||
Who is the brother, friend, companion and relative? Who is emotionally attached to the family?
17 Sehaskritee Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੩੫੩-੧੮, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਕਤੰਚ ਚਪਲ ਮੋਹਨੀ ਰੂਪੰ ਪੇਖੰਤੇ ਤਿਆਗੰ ਕਰੋਤਿ
kathanch chapal mohanee roopan paekhanthae thiaagan karoth ||
Who is restlessly attached to beauty? It leaves, as soon as we see it.
18 Sehaskritee Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੩੫੩-੧੮, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਰਹੰਤ ਸੰਗ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਸਿਮਰਣ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਬਧ੍ਯ੍ਯੰ ਅਚੁਤ ਤਨਹ
rehanth sang bhagavaan simaran naanak labadhhyan achuth thaneh ||1||
Only the meditative remembrance of God remains with us. O Nanak, it brings the blessings of the Saints, the sons of the Imperishable Lord. ||1||
18 Sehaskritee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1353)

(੧੩੬੦-, ਗਾਥਾ, )
ਮਹਲਾ ਗਾਥਾ
mehalaa 5 gaathhaa
Fifth Mehl, Gaat'haa:
5 null null


(੧੩੬੦-, ਗਾਥਾ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
5 null null


(੧੩੬੦-, ਗਾਥਾ, )
ਕਰਪੂਰ ਪੁਹਪ ਸੁਗੰਧਾ ਪਰਸ ਮਾਨੁਖ੍ਯ੍ਯ ਦੇਹੰ ਮਲੀਣੰ
karapoor puhap sugandhhaa paras maanukhy dhaehan maleenan ||
Camphor, flowers and perfume become contaminated, by coming into contact with the human body.
6 Gathaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੩੬੦-, ਗਾਥਾ, )
ਮਜਾ ਰੁਧਿਰ ਦ੍ਰੁਗੰਧਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਅਥਿ ਗਰਬੇਣ ਅਗ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨਣੋ
majaa rudhhir dhraagandhhaa naanak athh garabaen agyaanano ||1||
O Nanak, the ignorant one is proud of his foul-smelling marrow, blood and bones. ||1||
6 Gathaa Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1360)



Over here the older language of Ampbransha, nearer to Sanskrit is used.

(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ
aasaa mehalaa 5 ||
Aasaa, Fifth Mehl:
6 null null


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਭਈ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਮਾਨੁਖ ਦੇਹੁਰੀਆ
bhee paraapath maanukh dhaehureeaa ||
This human body has been given to you.
6 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਮਿਲਣ ਕੀ ਇਹ ਤੇਰੀ ਬਰੀਆ
gobindh milan kee eih thaeree bareeaa ||
This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe.
6 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਅਵਰਿ ਕਾਜ ਤੇਰੈ ਕਿਤੈ ਕਾਮ
avar kaaj thaerai kithai n kaam ||
Nothing else will work.
6 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਮਿਲੁ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਭਜੁ ਕੇਵਲ ਨਾਮ
mil saadhhasangath bhaj kaeval naam ||1||
Join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; vibrate and meditate on the Jewel of the Naam. ||1||
7 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸਰੰਜਾਮਿ ਲਾਗੁ ਭਵਜਲ ਤਰਨ ਕੈ
saranjaam laag bhavajal tharan kai ||
Make every effort to cross over this terrifying world-ocean.
7 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਜਨਮੁ ਬ੍ਰਿਥਾ ਜਾਤ ਰੰਗਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਕੈ ਰਹਾਉ
janam brithhaa jaath rang maaeiaa kai ||1|| rehaao ||
You are squandering this life uselessly in the love of Maya. ||1||Pause||
8 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਜਪੁ ਤਪੁ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਮਾਇਆ
jap thap sanjam dhharam n kamaaeiaa ||
I have not practiced meditation, self-discipline, self-restraint or righteous living.
8 Gaurhee Deepkee Guru Nanak Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸੇਵਾ ਸਾਧ ਜਾਨਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਰਾਇਆ
saevaa saadhh n jaaniaa har raaeiaa ||
I have not served the Holy; I have not acknowledged the Lord, my King.
8 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਮ ਨੀਚ ਕਰੰਮਾ
kahu naanak ham neech karanmaa ||
Says Nanak, my actions are contemptible!
9 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੨-, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸਰਣਿ ਪਰੇ ਕੀ ਰਾਖਹੁ ਸਰਮਾ
saran parae kee raakhahu saramaa ||2||4||
O Lord, I seek Your Sanctuary; please, preserve my honor! ||2||4||
9 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 12)

(੫੩੦-੧੬, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ
dhaevagandhhaaree 5 ||
Dayv-Gandhaaree, Fifth Mehl:
16 null null


(੫੩੦-੧੬, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਮਨ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਰਾਧਿਓ
man gur mil naam araadhhiou ||
O mind, meet with the Guru, and worship the Naam in adoration.
16 Dev Gandhaaree Guru Arjan Dev


(੫੩੦-੧੭, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਸੂਖ ਸਹਜ ਆਨੰਦ ਮੰਗਲ ਰਸ ਜੀਵਨ ਕਾ ਮੂਲੁ ਬਾਧਿਓ ਰਹਾਉ
sookh sehaj aanandh mangal ras jeevan kaa mool baadhhiou ||1|| rehaao ||
You shall obtain peace, poise, bliss, joy and pleasure, and lay the foundation of eternal life. ||1||Pause||
17 Dev Gandhaaree Guru Arjan Dev


(੫੩੦-੧੮, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਦਾਸੁ ਕੀਨੋ ਕਾਟੇ ਮਾਇਆ ਫਾਧਿਓ
kar kirapaa apunaa dhaas keeno kaattae maaeiaa faadhhiou ||
Showing His Mercy, the Lord has made me His slave, and shattered the bonds of Maya.
18 Dev Gandhaaree Guru Arjan Dev


(੫੩੦-੧੮, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਭਾਉ ਭਗਤਿ ਗਾਇ ਗੁਣ ਗੋਬਿਦ ਜਮ ਕਾ ਮਾਰਗੁ ਸਾਧਿਓ
bhaao bhagath gaae gun gobidh jam kaa maarag saadhhiou ||1||
Through loving devotion, and singing the Glorious Praises of the Lord of the Universe, I have escaped the Path of Death. ||1||
18 Dev Gandhaaree Guru Arjan Dev


(੫੩੦-੧੯, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਭਇ ਅਨੁਗ੍ਰਹੁ ਮਿਟਿਓ ਮੋਰਚਾ ਅਮੋਲ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਲਾਧਿਓ
bhaeiou anugrahu mittiou morachaa amol padhaarathh laadhhiou ||
When he became Merciful, the rust was removed, and I found the priceless treasure.
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(੫੩੦-੧੯, ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ, )
ਬਲਿਹਾਰੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਖ ਬੇਰਾ ਮੇਰੇ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਅਗਮ ਅਗਾਧਿਓ ੧੩
balihaarai naanak lakh baeraa maerae thaakur agam agaadhhiou ||2||13||
O Nanak, I am a sacrifice, a hundred thousand times, to my unapproachable, unfathomable Lord and Master. ||2||13||
19 Dev Gandhaaree Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 530)

Over here we find the usage of Sadhu Bhasha nearer to Braj and Bhojpur.

So large part of Gurbani unto Fourth and Fifth Master is in Sadhu Bhasha or Sadhukhari in spite of their living in Punjab, there is no use of Punjabi much.

There is verse unto Fifth Master in Farsi.

There are verse in old language not in use at all by general public Gatha and Sahskirti why ?
 
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Anyway let us talk of Dingal first(info taken from book “Hindi Sahitya Ka Itihas” by Dr Nagendra). It is not synonymous by Rajsthani at all. It is a style of writing the poetry of Veer Rasa or essence of courage. It is the form of initial form of Hindi poetry dealing with bards singing for Hindu warriors mostly Rajputs. It stayed in large part of north India till Rajputs ruled but later with Muslims coming in it got restricted to last refuge of Rajputs called Rajputana presently called Rajsthan.

In the same way Braj became the main language of Hindi literature during the time of Tenth Master. Its Area is Faridabad to Rewa, Nimach to Banda roughly at present but at that time person who could understand had borders from Jammu to Deccan, From Bhuj to Chaibasa. We find poet Bhushan of Braj in the court of Shiva Ji Maratha, and Senapati coming to the court of Tenth Master.

Another thing about Braj is that it has evolved itself from Pingal, which is the style of love related poetry.

In Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, we find fusion of contradictory styles which is again unprecedented.

We find people from Braj Area coming to Guru, Can not Guru learn this dialect from them. As Sadhu Bhasha at the time of previous Gurus was main language to religious preaching so that was used more by Gurus then Punjabi so what makes the Tenth Master unable to learn Braj and then let Holy Verse be in that language.

Did Fifth Master went to Iran for learning the Farsi ?

Reason to use Braj over Punjabi is same as using the Sadhukarhi in past ie to let more people get the divine knowledge.

There is another twist to the logic of writer over here.

Verses unto devotee Kabeer Ji are often in Bhojpuri also. As Fifth Master never went to eastern UP so that means he could not understand them or could not explain them, then how could he include them in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Coming to Dingal.
Like Guru did not mind when he let himself and Sikhs use surname used by people of Rajputana like Rana Rattan Singh, Rana Sangram Singh(Rana Sanga), Rana Pratap Singh etc .

Guru did not mind to invite Sikligar blacksmiths from Rajsthan, to come to Punjab and make weapons.

Then First Master did visit Pushkar in Rajsthan during his second Udasi or journey , Eight Master stayed in palace of King of Rajptana during his Delhi stay, Ninth Master accompanied King Ram Singh of Jaipur ,to his Assam mission.

Few question.

Since the time of First Master was there not a single person from Rajasthan who became Sikh ?

Could not the Ninth Master make Sikhs in Rajsthani or learnt the dialect of their bards or say any Sikh who went with Ninth Master learnt Dingal then ?

So it is clear that either by a Sikh of Rajsthan or some none Sikh Bard invited from Rajasthan, Guru can get education of Dingal style which is in turn used to inject the enthusiasm of courage and bravery into Sikhs and potential converts also.

Reason for using Ampbransha was a mercy by Guru to revive the dying dialect, which was once popular among Jain , Buddhist and Naths.It was not of popular use nor related to Punjab as specific. In the same way at the time when people of Rajputana were going in for Riti Kal and Shirngar Rasa ie poetry related to luxury and love making Guru revived and reused the old style, older then attack of Muslims onto India, to enthuse the deprived, so that they overthrow the exploiters.

So this doubt is clear by know it appears.

Then coming to weather we are told if Akal/Parbrahm is Bhavani or Bhavani is manifestation of Akal.

Term Narhari means lion man as man is for nar and hari for lion.


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਸੰਡਾ ਮਰਕਾ ਜਾਇ ਪੁਕਾਰੇ
sanddaa marakaa jaae pukaarae ||
Sanda and Marka went and complained to Harnaakhash,
6 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਪੜੈ ਨਹੀ ਹਮ ਹੀ ਪਚਿ ਹਾਰੇ
parrai nehee ham hee pach haarae ||
\"Your son does not read his lessons. We are tired of trying to teach him.
7 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਰਾਮੁ ਕਹੈ ਕਰ ਤਾਲ ਬਜਾਵੈ ਚਟੀਆ ਸਭੈ ਬਿਗਾਰੇ
raam kehai kar thaal bajaavai chatteeaa sabhai bigaarae ||1||
He chants the Lord's Name, clapping his hands to keep the beat; he has spoiled all the other students. ||1||
7 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਾ ਜਪਿਬੋ ਕਰੈ
raam naamaa japibo karai ||
He chants the Lord's Name,
7 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਹਿਰਦੈ ਹਰਿ ਜੀ ਕੋ ਸਿਮਰਨੁ ਧਰੈ ਰਹਾਉ
hiradhai har jee ko simaran dhharai ||1|| rehaao ||
and he has enshrined meditative remembrance of the Lord within his heart.\"\"||1||Pause||
8 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਬਸੁਧਾ ਬਸਿ ਕੀਨੀ ਸਭ ਰਾਜੇ ਬਿਨਤੀ ਕਰੈ ਪਟਰਾਨੀ
basudhhaa bas keenee sabh raajae binathee karai pattaraanee ||
\"Your father the king has conquered the whole world\", said his mother the queen.
8 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਪੂਤੁ ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦੁ ਕਹਿਆ ਨਹੀ ਮਾਨੈ ਤਿਨਿ ਤਉ ਅਉਰੈ ਠਾਨੀ
pooth prehilaadh kehiaa nehee maanai thin tho aourai thaanee ||2||
\"O Prahlad my son, you do not obey him, so he has decided to deal with you in another way.\"||2||
9 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਦੁਸਟ ਸਭਾ ਮਿਲਿ ਮੰਤਰ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਕਰਸਹ ਅਉਧ ਘਨੇਰੀ
dhusatt sabhaa mil manthar oupaaeiaa karaseh aoudhh ghanaeree ||
The council of villians met and resolved to send Prahlaad into the life hereafter.
9 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਗਿਰਿ ਤਰ ਜਲ ਜੁਆਲਾ ਭੈ ਰਾਖਿਓ ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਮਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਫੇਰੀ
gir thar jal juaalaa bhai raakhiou raajaa raam maaeiaa faeree ||3||
Prahlaad was thrown off a mountain, into the water, and into a fire, but the Sovereign Lord God saved him, by changing the laws of nature. ||3||
10 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਕਾਢਿ ਖੜਗੁ ਕਾਲੁ ਭੈ ਕੋਪਿਓ ਮੋਹਿ ਬਤਾਉ ਜੁ ਤੁਹਿ ਰਾਖੈ
kaadt kharrag kaal bhai kopiou mohi bathaao j thuhi raakhai ||
Harnaakhash thundered with rage and threatened to kill Prahlaad. \"\"Tell me, who can save you?\"\"
10 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-੧੧, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤਾਂਬਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ਥੰਭ ਮਾਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਖੈ
peeth peethaanbar thribhavan dhhanee thhanbh maahi har bhaakhai ||4||
Prahlaad answered, \"\"The Lord, the Master of the three worlds, is contained even in this pillar to which I am tied.\"\"||4||
11 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-੧੨, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਹਰਨਾਖਸੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਨਖਹ ਬਿਦਾਰਿਓ ਸੁਰਿ ਨਰ ਕੀਏ ਸਨਾਥਾ
haranaakhas jin nakheh bidhaariou sur nar keeeae sanaathhaa ||
The Lord who tore Harnaakhash apart with His nails proclaimed Himself the Lord of gods and men.
12 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੬੫-੧੨, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਕਹਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਹਮ ਨਰਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਵਹ ਰਾਮੁ ਅਭੈ ਪਦ ਦਾਤਾ
kehi naamadhaeo ham narehar dhhiaaveh raam abhai padh dhaathaa ||5||3||9||
Says Naam Dayv, I meditate on the Lord, the Man-lion, the Giver of fearless dignity. ||5||3||9||
12 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 1165)

This ditto taken from Shrimad Bhagvat Purana.

Based upon this if we see the verse below:





(੩੨੦-੧੭, ਗਉੜੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਮਿਲਿ ਰਹੇ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨਰਹਰੀਐ ੧੧
naanak preetham mil rehae paarabreham narehareeai ||11||
Nanak remains blended with his Beloved, the Supreme Lord God. ||11||
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(Ang 320)

Should we deem it as that it is incarnation of Vishnu who is called Prabrahma ? In Andhra we have cult worshipping Narsingh/Narhari also.


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ਅਥ ਪਾਰਸ ਨਾਥ ਰੁਦ੍ਰ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਕਥਨੰ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦
Ath Paaras Naath Rudra avtaar kahanang|| Paat(i)shaahi10||
Now begins the description of Parasnath, the incarnation of Rudra. Tent Guru.
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ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI
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ਇਹ ਬਿਧ ਦੱਤ ਰੁੱਦ੍ਰ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ਪੂਰਣ ਮਤ ਕੋ ਕੀਨ ਪਸਾਰਾ ਅੰਤ ਜੋਤ ਸੋ ਜੋਤਿ ਮਿਲਾਨੀ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਸੋ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਭਵਾਨੀ
Eh bidh Datt Ruddra avtaaraa|| Pooran mat ko keen pasaaraa|| Ant jot so jot(i) milaanee|| Jih bidh(i) so paarbrahm bhavaanee||1||
In this way there was the Dutt incarnation of Rudra and he spread his religion; in the end, according to the Will of the Lord, his light (soul) merged in the Supreme Light of the Lord.1.
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Writer talks of this while here we are told that Akal Purakh only is Bhavani as we see last part of Datt Rudra Avtar Sahib just before this verse.




ਸਧਿ ਕੈ ਪਵਨੈ ਰਿਖ ਜੋਗ ਬਲੰ ਤਜ ਚਾਲ ਕਲੇਵਰ ਭੂਮਿ ਤਲੰ
Sadh(i) kai pavnai rikh jog balang|| Taj chaal kalevar bhoom(i) talang||
Controlling the wind with the strength of Yoga, relinquishing his body left the earth;

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ਕਲ ਫੋਰ ਉਤਾਲ ਕਪਾਲ ਕਲੀ ਤਿਹ ਜੋਤਿ ਸੁ ਜੋਤਿਹ ਮੱਧਿ ਮਿਲੀ ੪੮੯
Kal phor utaal kapaal kalee|| Tih hot(i) su joteh maddh(i) milee||489||
Breaking the skull, his light of the soul merged in the supreme light of the Lord.489.

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ਜਗ ਕਾਲ ਕ੍ਰਵਾਲ ਕਰਾਲ ਲਸੈ ਜਗ ਜੰਗਮ ਥਾਵਰ ਸਰਬ ਕਸੈ
Kal kaal kravaal karaal lasai|| Jag jangam thaavar sarab kasai||
The KAL (death) streches his dreadful sword always o all categories of beings;

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ਜਗ ਕਾਲਹਿ ਜਾਲ ਬਿਸਾਲ ਰਚਾ ਜਿਹ ਬੀਚ ਫਸੇ ਬਿਨ ਕੋ ਬਚਾ ੪੯੦
Jag kaalah(i) jaal bisaal rachaa|| Jih beech phase bin ko na bachaa||490||
It has created the large net of this world, from which none had been able to escape.490.

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ਸਵੈਯਾ
Sawaiyaa||
SWAYYA

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ਦੇਸ਼ ਬਿਦੇਸ਼ ਨਰੇਸ਼ਨ ਜੀਤ ਅਨੇਸ਼ ਬਡੇ ਅਵਨੇਸ਼ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ਆਠੋਈ ਸਿੱਧ ਸਭੈ ਨਵਨਿਧਿ ਸਮ੍ਰਿੱਧਨ ਸਰਬ ਭਰੇ ਗ੍ਰਹਿ ਸਾਰੇ
Desh bidesh nareshan jeet anesh ba?e avnesh sanghaare|| aathoisiddh sabhai navnidh(i) samriddhan sarab bhare grah(i) saare||
This KAL (death) has killed the great sovereigns of all the countries and the earth, who had eight powers, nine treasures, all kinds of accomplishments;

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ਚੰਦ੍ਰਮੁਖੀ ਬਨਿਤਾ ਬਹੁਤੈ ਘਰਿ ਮਾਲ ਭਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਤ ਸੰਭਾਰੇ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਹੀਨ ਅਧੀਨ ਭਏ ਜਮ ਅੰਤਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਗੇ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਸਿਧਾਰੇ ੪੯੧
Chandramukhi banitaa bahutai ghar(i) maal bhare nahijaat sanbhare|| Naam biheen adheen bhae jam ant(i) ko naage hipaae sidhaare||491||
Moon-faced women and unlimited wealth; they all left this world with naked feet under the control of Yama, without the remembrance of the Name of the Lord.491.

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ਰਾਵਨ ਕੇ ਮਹਿਰਾਵਨ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਕੇ ਨਲ ਕੇ ਚਲਤੇ ਚਲੀ ਗਉ ਭੋਜ ਦਿਲੀਪਤ ਕੌ ਰਵਿ ਕੈ ਨਹੀ ਸਾਥ ਦਯੋ ਰਘੁਨਾਥ ਬਲੀ ਕਉ
Raavan ke Maihraavan ke man ken al ke chalte na chaligau|| Bhoj dileepat kau rab(i) kai nahisaath dayo raghunaath balikau||
Even Ravan and Mehravan were helpless before him; he did not even co-operate with king Bhoj, the Delhi kings of Surya clan, the mighty Raghunath etc.;

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ਸੰਗਿ ਚਲੀ ਅਬ ਲੌ ਨਹੀ ਕਾਹੂ ਕੇ ਸਾਚ ਕਹੌ ਅਘ ਅਉਘ ਦਲੀ ਸਉ ਚੇਤ ਰੇ ਚੇਤ ਅਚੇਤ ਮਹਾ ਧਸੁ ਕਾਹੂ ਕੇ ਸੰਗਿ ਚਲੀ ਹਲੀ ਹਉ ੪੯੨
Sang(i) chaliab lau nahikaahoo ke saach kahau agh augh dalisau|| Chet re chet achet mahaa pas(u) kaahoo ke sang(i) chalina halihau||492||
He did not even side with the destroyer of the store of sins; therefore O great animal-like unconscious mind! come into your senses, but consider that the KAL (death) did not consider anyone its own.492.

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ਸਾਚ ਝੂਠ ਕਹੇ ਬਹੁਤੈ ਬਿਧ ਕਾਮ ਕਰੋਧ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਮਾਏ ਭਾਜ ਨਲਾਜ ਬਚਾ ਧਨ ਕੇ ਡਰ ਲੋਕ ਗਯੋ ਪਰਲੋਕ ਗਵਾਏ
Saach au jhooth kahe bagutai bidh kaam karodh anek kamaae|| Bhaaj nalaaj bachaa dhan ke ?ar lok gyo parlok gavaae||
The being, in many ways, speaking both truth and falsehood, absorbed himself in lust and anger; for earning and gathering wealth unashamedly lost both theis and the next world;

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ਦੁਆਦਸ ਬਰਖ ਪੜਾ ਗੁੜਿਓ ਜੜ ਰਾਜੀਵ ਲੋਚਨ ਨਾਹਿਨ ਪਾਏ ਲਾਜ ਬਿਹੀਨ ਅਧੀਨ ਗਹੇ ਜਮ ਅੰਤ ਕੌ ਨਾਗੇ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਸਿਧਾਏ ੪੯੩
Duaadas barakh pa?aa na gu?io ja? raajeev lochan naahin paae|| Laaj biheen adheen gahe jam ant kau naage hipaae sidhaae||493||
Though he obtained education for twelve-years, but did not follow its sayings and lotus-eyed (Rajiv-lochan) could not realise that Lord; the unashamed being will ultimately be caught by Yama and it will have to go with naked feet from this place.493.

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ਕਾਹੇ ਕਉ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਧਰੋ ਭਗਵੇ ਮੁਨ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਪਾਵਕ ਬੀਚ ਜਲੈਗੀ ਕਯੋਂ ਇਮ ਰੀਤ ਚਲਾਵਤ ਹੋ ਦਿਨ ਦ੍ਵੈਕ ਚਲੈ ਸ੍ਰਬਦਾ ਚਲੈਗੀ
Kaahe kau bastra sharo bhagve mun te sabh paavak beech jalaigee|| Kyon im reet chalaavat ho din dvaik chalai srabdaa na chalaigee||
O sages ! why do you wear ochre-coloured clothes?, they will all be burnt in the fire at the end. Why do you introduce such-like rites, which will not continue for ever?

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ਕਾਲ ਕਰਾਲ ਕੀ ਰੀਤ ਮਹਾਂ ਇਹ ਕਾਹੂ ਜੁਗੇਸ ਛਲੀ ਛਲੈਗੀ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਦੇਹਿ ਤੁਮਾਰੀ ਮਹਾਮੁਨਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਮਸਾਨ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਧੂਰ ਰਲੈਗੀ ੪੯੪
Kaal karaal kireet mahaan eh kaahoo juges chhalina chhalaigee|| Sundar(i) deh(i) tumaarimahaamun(i) ant(i) masaan hvai dhoor ralaigee||494||
Now one will be able to deceive the great tradition of the dreadful KAL; O sage ! your beautiful body will ultimately be mixed with dust.494.

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ਕਾਹੇ ਕੌ ਪਉਨ ਭਛੋ ਸੁਨਿ ਹੋ ਮੁਨਿ ਪਉਨ ਭਛੇ ਕਛੁ ਹਾਥ ਐਹੈ ਕਾਹੇ ਕੋ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਕਰੋ ਭਗਵਾ ਇਨ ਬਾਤਨ ਸੋ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਹੈ
Kaahe kaupaun bhachho sun(i) ho mun(i) paun bhachhe kachh(u) haath na aihai|| Kaahe ko bastra karo bhagvaa in baatan so bhagvaan na hvai hai||
O sage ! why are you only subsisting on wind ? You will not achieve anything by doing this; you cannot even attain that supreme Lord by wearing the ochre-coloured clothes;

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ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨ ਕੈ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਬਸ ਕਾਲ ਸਭੈ ਹੈ ਜਾਰ ਅਨੰਗਨ ਨੰਗ ਕਹਾਵਤ ਸੀਸ ਕੀ ਸੰਗਿ ਜਟਾਊ ਜੈ ਹੈ ੪੯੫
Bed Puraan pramaan kai dekhoh te sabh hibas kaal sabhai hai|| Jaar anangan nang kahaavat sees kisang(i) jataaoo na jai hai||495||
Look at the illustrations of all the Vedas, Pranas etc., then you will know that all are under the control of KAL; you can be called ANANG (limbless) by burning your lust, but even your matted locks will not accompany your head and all this will be destro

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ਕੰਚਨ ਕੋਟ ਗਿਰਯੋ ਕਹੁ ਕਾਹੇ ਸਾਤਓ ਸਾਗਰ ਕਯੋਂ ਸੁਕਾਨੋ ਪਸ਼ਚਮ ਭਾਨ ਉਦਯੋ ਕਹੁ ਕਾਹੇ ਗੰਗ ਬਹੀ ਉਲਟੀ ਅਨਮਾਨੋ
Kanchan kot giryo kahu kaahe na saato saagar syon na sukaano|| Pashcham bhaan udyo kahu kaahe na Gang bahiultianmaano||
Undoubtedly, the citadels of gold be reduced to dust, all the seven oceans be dried up, the sun may rise in the west, the Ganges may flow in the opposite direction,

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ਅੰਤਿ ਬਸੰਤ ਤਪਯੋ ਰਵਿ ਕਾਹੇ ਚੰਦ ਸਮਾਨ ਦਿਨੀਸ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨੋ ਕਯੋਂ ਡੁਮਡੋਲ ਡੁਬੀਨ ਧਰਾ ਮੁਨਿਰਾਜ ਨਿਪਾਤਨਿ ਤਯੋਂ ਜਗ ਜਾਨੋ ੪੯੬
Ant(i) basant tapyo rav(i) kaahe na chand samaan dinees pramaano|| Kyon ?um?ol ?ubeen dharaa muniraaj nipaatan(i) tyon jag jaano||496||
The sun may heat in the spring season, the sun may become cold like the moon, the earth supported by the tortoise may shake, but even then, O king of the sages ! the destruction of the world is certain by KAL.496.

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ਅਤ੍ਰ ਪਰਾਸਰ ਨਾਰਦ ਸਾਰਦ ਬਯਾਸ ਤੇ ਆਦਿ ਜਿਤੇ ਮੁਨ ਭਾਏ ਗਾਲਭ ਆਦਿ ਅਨੰਤ ਮੁਨੀਸ਼੍ਵਰ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਹੂੰ ਤੇ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਤ ਗਨਾਏ
Atra paraasar naarad saarad byaas te aadh jite mun bhaae|| Gaalabh aadh anant muneeshvar Brahm hoon te nahijaat ganaae||
There have been many sages like Atri, Parashar, Narada, Sharda, Vyas etc., who cannot be counted even by Brahma;

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ਅਗਸਤ ਪੁਲਸਤ ਬਸ਼ਿਸ਼ਟ ਤੇ ਆਦਿ ਜਾਨ ਪਰੇ ਕਿਹ ਦੇਸ ਪਠਾਏ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਚਲਾਇ ਬਨਾਇ ਮਹਾ ਮਤਿ ਫੇਰਿ ਮਿਲੇ ਪਰ ਫੇਰ ਆਏ ੪੯੭
Agast Pulast Bashisht te aadh na jaan pare kih des pathaae|| Mantra chalaae banaae mahaa mat(i) pher mile par pher na aae||497||
There had been many sages like Agastya, Pulastya, Vashistha etc., but it could not be known to which directions they have gone; they composed mantras and established many sects, but they merged in the cycle of dreadful existence, that after that nothing c
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ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨਿਰੰਧ੍ਰ ਕੋ ਫੋਰ ਮੁਨੀਸ਼ ਕੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਸੁ ਜੋਤਿ ਕੇ ਮੱਧਿ ਮਿਲਾਨੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤ ਰਲੀ ਪਰਮੇਸ਼ਰ ਸੌ ਇਮ ਬੇਦਨ ਸੰਗਿ ਮਿਲੈ ਜਿਮ ਬਾਨੀ
Brahm nirandhra ko phor muneesh kijot(i) su jot(i) ke maddh(i) milaanee|| Preet raliparmeshar su im bedan sang(i) milai jim baanee||
Breaking the Brahmarandhra (an aperture in the crown of the head), the light of the king of sages merged in that Supreme Light; his love was absorbed in the Lord like all kinds of compositions are interlinked in the Veda;
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ਪੁੰਨ ਕਥਾ ਮੁਨਿ ਨੰਦਨ ਕੀ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਮੁਖ ਸੋ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਬਖਾਨੀ ਪੂਰਣ ਧਿਆਇ ਭਯੋ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਜਯ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਜਗਨਾਥ ਭਵੇਸ ਭਵਾਨੀ ੪੯੮
Punn kathaa mun(i) nandan kikah(i) kai mukh so kabi Syaam bakhaanee|| Pooran dhiaae bhayo tab hijaya sri jagnath bhaves bhavaanee||498||
In his way, the poet Shyam has described the episode of the great sage Dutt; this chapter is now being completed hailing the Lord of the world and the mother of the world.498.
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ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੇ ਦੱਤ ਮਹਾਤਮ ਰੁਦ੍ਰਵਤਾਰ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧ ਸਮਾਪਤੰ ਸੁਭੰ ਭਵੇਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਚਉਬੀਸ ੨੪
It(i) SriBachitra Naatak granthe Datt mahaatam Rudravataar prabandh samaaptang subhang bhavet guroo chaubees||24||
End of the description of the composition regarding the sage Dutt, the incarnation of Rudra in Bachittar Natak.
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Now we see the demigoddess being told separated from Parbrahm in Gyan Prabodh Sahib.



ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaee||
CHAUPAI
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ਜਗ ਆਪਨ ਆਪਨ ਉਰਝਾਨਾ
Jag aapan aapan urjhaanaa||
All the world is engaged in its own interests;
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ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਾਹੂ ਪਛਾਨਾ
Paarbrahm kaahoo na pachhaanaa||
And none comprehends the Transcendental Brahman;
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ਇਕ ਮੜੀਅਨ ਕਬਰਨ ਵੇ ਜਾਂਹੀ
Ik ma?eean kabran ve jaanhee||
For Thy realization many go to the cremation ground and graveyards;
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ਦੁਹੂੰਅਨ ਮੈ ਪਰਮੇਸ੍ਵਰ ਨਾਹੀ ੧੮
Duhoonan mai Parmesvar naahee||18||
But the Lord is not there in both of them.18.
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(Gyan Prabodh Sahib Verse 1.18)


ਜਗੰਤ ਜੋਤ ਜੁਆਲ ਕਾ ਛਕੰਤ ਰਾਜ ਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ
Jagant jot juaal kaa|| chhakant raaj su prabhaa||
The illumination of the flame of Thy fire puzzles brightness of Thy Kingdom.
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ਜਗੰਤ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੈਤਸੀ ਬਦੰਤ ਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਈਸੁਰੀ ੧੨੨੦
jagant jot(i) jaitsee|| Badant krit eesjree||12||20||
Even Durga praises the brilliance of that conquering light.12.20.
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(Gyan Prabodh Sahib Verse 1.12..20..)

ਅਨੰਤ ਸੁਰਸੁਤੀ ਸਤੀ ਬਦੰਤ ਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਈਸੁਰੀ
Anant sursutisatee|| Badant krit eesuree||
Innumerable Sarswatis goddess and Satis (Parvati-goddess); and Lakshmis goddess and Satis (Parvati-goddess); and Lakshmis goddess sing His Praises.
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ਅਨੰਤ ਅਨੰਤ ਭਾਖੀਐ ਅਨੰਤ ਅਨੰਤ ਲਾਖੀਐ ੨੫੧੦੩
Anant anant bhaakheeai|| Anant laakheeai||25||103||
Innumerable Sheshanaga eulogize Him; that Lord is comprehended as infinite ultimeately.25.103.
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(Gyan Prabodh Sahib Verse 1.25..103..)

Coming to usage of wine, adulatary and meat by Vam Margi Shaktas, Fact is that it is used by Vam Margi Shavites and Buddhists also.

They try to carry out their religious rituals while they are entangled with these worldly vices. By this they think that they have self contral by self sacrificing the lust and commting to the ritual when well within the allurement , this ritual could be saying some spell while sleeping with lady or while seeing some body part of the lady which could arise sexual desire or this could while eating or drinking some thing.

Only one example each from Chartropakhyan Sahib are given below but there could be more which oppose the wine and adultery.

For wine Chartripakhyan 183, verse 19 and for Adultary Chartropakhyan 244 verse 20.

Coming to meat. Well this is allowed both in them and us.

Refer Ang 1289 of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Then let us see about a few words given in praise to demigoddess which writer brings in and tells this is vulgar. Yes for Aryan non Aryan demigoddess and words used by them may not fit cultured(Sanskrit) orArya(Civilized) races.

But coming to if writer understands the Sanskrit or Tantra Shashtra, there Ling means spirit or Linga Sharir(See Mahan Kosh also by Nabha Sahib) and Bhag means God.

There Tantirc praises his goddess for let her being able to unite spirit with God, as per them when concentration make serpent hood(place where spinal cord and brain meet) activated spiritually , bhog or sex tends to happen.

Bringing that verse was out of context.

Within spirit, spiritly form of spirit, beautiful of spirit.. As Song of spirit super affection, As a song of God super happiness ..
(Union of)God-Spirit (give) eternal affection, the form of (union of) God-Spirit..
Form of (Union of)God-Spirit and happiness of (Union of)God-Spirit..

While in we brings in another verse from Shri Dasham Granth Sahib to match this.


ਮੋਨ ਭਜੇ ਨਹੀ ਮਾਨ ਤਜੇ ਨਹੀ ਭੇਖ ਸਜੇ ਨਹੀ ਮੂੰਡ ਸੁਹਾਏ
Mon bhaje nahoo maan taje nahoo bhekh saje nahoo moon? mun?aae||
The Lord cannot be realized by observing silence, by forsaking pride, by adopting guises and by shaving the head.

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ਕੰਠ ਕੰਠੀ ਕਠੋਰ ਧਰੇ ਨਹੂ ਸੀਸ ਜਟਾਨ ਕੇ ਜੂਟ ਸੁਹਾਏ
Kanth na kanthoo kathor dhare nahoo soos jataan ke joot suhaae||
He cannot be realized by wearing Kanthi (a short necklace of small beads of different kinds made of wood or seeds worn by mendicants or ascetics) for severe austerities or Thy making a knot of matted hair on the head.

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ਸਾਚੁ ਕਹੋਂ ਸੁਨ ਲੈ ਚਿਤ ਦੈ ਬਿਨੁ ਦੀਨ ਦਿਆਲ ਕੀ ਸਾਮ ਸਿਧਾਏ
Saach(u) kahon sun lai chit dai bin(u) din diaal koo saam sidhaae||
Listen attentively, I speak Turth, Thou shalt not achieve the target without going under the Refuge of the LORD, Who is ever Merciful to the lowly.

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ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਕਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਾਯਤ ਹੈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਭੀਜਤ ਲਾਂਡ ਕਟਾਏ ੧੦੦
Prit(i) kare Prabh(u) paayat hai kripaal na bhoojat laan? kataae||100||
God can only be realized with LOVE, He is not pleased by circumcision.100.
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 1.100)

As per writer last line is vulgar as term used for male reproductive organ is not Aryan .

While this is statement offending both the people who carry out circumcision and those who pretend to cut their male organ to prove themselves to be celibate (Charitropakhyan is there where a shavite sage ,native of Punjab, deceives the Tailang king as per instructions of the queen, when he puts male reproductive organ of a dead concealed in clothes below his belt, and when king says that he has illicit relationship with queen, he shams as if by knife he has cut his own organ and throws the organ of dead man on the face of King, King feels guilty and let his wife serve the sage, who in term maintain his illicit relations with queen. This proves that, sage could use this ploy to prove themselves to be celibate)

So this is both for Indic and Semitic. And such things to both are said in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji too.


(੪੭੧-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਤਗੁ ਇੰਦ੍ਰੀ ਤਗ ਨਾਰੀ
thag n eindhree thag n naaree ||
There is no sacred thread for the sexual organ, and no thread for woman.
9 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 471)


(੪੭੭-੧੬, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਸਕਤਿ ਸਨੇਹੁ ਕਰਿ ਸੁੰਨਤਿ ਕਰੀਐ ਮੈ ਬਦਉਗਾ ਭਾਈ
sakath sanaehu kar sunnath kareeai mai n badhougaa bhaaee ||
Because of the love of woman, circumcision is done; I don't believe in it, O Siblings of Destiny.
16 Aasaa Saint Kabir


(੪੭੭-੧੭, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਜਉ ਰੇ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਮੋਹਿ ਤੁਰਕੁ ਕਰੈਗਾ ਆਪਨ ਹੀ ਕਟਿ ਜਾਈ
jo rae khudhaae mohi thurak karaigaa aapan hee katt jaaee ||2||
If God wished me to be a Muslim, it would be cut off by itself. ||2||
17 Aasaa Saint Kabir


(੪੭੭-੧੭, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਸੁੰਨਤਿ ਕੀਏ ਤੁਰਕੁ ਜੇ ਹੋਇਗਾ ਅਉਰਤ ਕਾ ਕਿਆ ਕਰੀਐ
sunnath keeeae thurak jae hoeigaa aourath kaa kiaa kareeai ||
If circumcision makes one a Muslim, then what about a woman?
17 Aasaa Saint Kabir


(੪੭੭-੧੮, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਅਰਧ ਸਰੀਰੀ ਨਾਰਿ ਛੋਡੈ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਹੀ ਰਹੀਐ
aradhh sareeree naar n shhoddai thaa thae hindhoo hee reheeai ||3||
She is the other half of a man's body, and she does not leave him, so he remains a Hindu. ||3||
18 Aasaa Saint Kabir
(Ang 477)

As we see that word from warrior are not same as of saint. But any way when term in slang of JananEindriya comes of indri it is Ok due to Sanskrit(cultured) and Aryan(Civilized) dialect but non Aryans word could be unfit for Aryans but for Sikhs they are OK.

Likewise another Chartrophyan numbered 404.

Which has three meanigs yet not being able to understand them writer find them vulgar.

Here first weak Hindu king is shown who in fear of pain of hell tries to save his faith but latter gives up and is sexually enslaved by girl after her maid hit him with shoe. She makes him dance to her tune after intoxicating him.This proves that rulers brings in addiction to enslaved. He tries to take help of other as could not save self. Later he thinks that no one should no his such a pathetic situation. Due to this only he marries that girl who raped him.

Second story with terms used by yogis and tanrics. Mammon tries to overcome spirit. On resistance ,mommon forces herself up on spirit. When spirit gives self(ling) up to God(Bhag). Mammon comes under its contol and is made wife.

Third story as per Prem Marg or path of love by Sufis.
There Ishq e Majaji or love of human emotions gives way to Ishq E Haqiqee or love of Truth.

Here God/Allah/Akal tries bringing man into true path but due to pagan influence man refuses, then God sends in wrath to man. Then Man forgets to think and give self to God, God being happy with union develops a bond with man.(unlike in Bhakti way where spirit is bride and God is groom, in Sufis God is bride and Man is groom).

Later writer says that going outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is like as per Ang 1384 is wife going out of wedlock. And he asks if Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are not complete Guru ?

First thing is that there are many things which are not in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and essential part of Sikhism. So as per his logic as his surname is Singh, yet it is not in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, he is like wife out of wedlock, He should change his name first to Dalbeer Das, so that his logic makes Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji a complete Guru. Likewise there is no trace of Tenth Master giving Guruship to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji at all not to Khalsa Panth. There is no mention of Tenth Master at all in Shri Guru Granth Sahib. So does our getting info from sources outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib make them incomplete ? a Big no but writer seems to have no confidence in completion of Shri Guru Granth Sahib. Was not before their compilation by Fifth Master Gurbani our Guru ? Was Shri Guru Granth Sahib complete after first compilation ? If yes then yes after second and yes after compilation of Text unto Tenth Master. As without it complete understanding of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not possible as we see in the case of writer.
 
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One page writer dedicate to prove that poet is forgetful and this is the topic of the page in question.

Before taking care of Six quotes by writer let us deal with issues raised by him.

It is first time that writer says that poet worships Mahakal, who is not demigoddess but one Lingum/phallus of Shiva from Ujjain. So this time there is a twist. From Shakta or demigoddess worshipper writer makes poet Shavite. This is first thing writer has forgotten. We will explores the Shiv Purana and term related to Mahakal in there also. His talk about Mahakal as one of the Shivlingum has exposed his lack of in depth knowledge of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.

Then another new thing comes here is that Ram, Shyam and Kal were poet from the court of Tenth Master. Although there are references say in Chartropkhyan Sahib 109 verse 19, verse32 where both name Ram and Shyam are used by poet respectively. But there is Verse in Krishna Avtar Sahib, where both names emerge in single verse.

That is verse 1894 from Krishna Avtar Sahib.


ਬਾਰਨੀ ਕੰਉ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਭਨੈ ਕਚੁ ਕੇ ਹਿਤ ਤੋ ਭ੍ਰਿਗ ਨਿੰਦ ਕਰਾਯੋ ਰਾਮ ਕਹੈ ਚਤੁਰਾਨਨਿ ਸੋ ਸੁ ਇਹੀ ਰਸ ਕਉ ਰਸ ਦੇਵਨ ਪਾਯੋ ੧੮੯੪
Baarnikaun kabi Syaam bhanai kach(u) ke hit to bhrig nind karaayo|| Raam kahai chaturaanan(i) so su ihiras kau ras devan paayo||1894||
Bhrigu had spoken against this Varuni (wine) in the episode of Kach-devyani; (though this episode is related to Shukracharya); according to the poet Ram, the gods had obtained this extract (ambrosia) from Brahma.1894.
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There has been instance of Bhatt Kal Sahar Ji(Kal, Tal)whose three names are used in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Then writer talks of drugs etc used by Shavite guys which is out of context.

Then writer adds a dot or Bindi by himself to make Sudh(awarenss) into Shudh(purity) from verse one of Kalki Avtar Sahib. So it is in mind of writer, he could do what he wants but blames it to poet.

Then writer thinks that he has an authority to rectify the faults so he does wants to change Ardas, Var Bhagouti Ji Ki Patshai Dasvi should be removed and Pritham Bhagouti Simar Kai should be replaced by Pritham Satinam Simar Kai, hail Teja Singh Bhasaour and Nirankaris. They have done it before. As now writer finds Shakta influence of demigoddess worship trying to create problem for Sikh ideology. Here writer does not feel sure about whom to be blame weather Shakta or Shaiva ?

Then weather Vam Margi or Dakshin Margi ?

As we see the first lines of Shri Vachitar Natak Sahib

ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ
BACHITRA NaatAK
NAME OF THE BANI.

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ਭਾਗ

SECTION I

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ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Ik Oankar Sat(i)gur Prasaadh||
The Lord is One and He can be attained through the grace of the true Guru.

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ਅਥ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਲਿਖਯਾਤੇ
Ath Bachitra Naatak Granth likhyate||
Now the Granth (Book) entitled ‘BACHITTAR NATAK’ is composed.

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ਤ੍ਵ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Tva Prasaadh||
BY THY GRACE.

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ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਬਾਕ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦
Sroo Mukhbaak Paatshaahoo 10 (Dasvoon)||
From the Holy Mouth of the Tenth King (Guru)

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ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA

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ਨਮਸਕਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਖੜਗ ਕੋ ਕਰੋਂ ਸੁ ਹਿਤੁ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇ
Namaskaar sroo kha?ag ko karon su hit(u) chit(u) laae||
I salute the Glorious SWORD with all my heart’s affection.

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ਪੂਰਨ ਕਰੋਂ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਇਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਮੁਹਿ ਕਰਹੁ ਸਹਾਇ
Pooran karon giranth eh(u) tum muh(i) karoh sahaae||1||
I shall complete this Granth only if Thou Helpest me. I.

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ਤ੍ਰਿਭੰਗੀ ਛੰਦ
Tribhangoo Chhand||
TRIBHAGI STANZA

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ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤਿ
Sri kaal joo koo ustat(i)||
The Eulogy of the Revered Death (KAL).

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ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ
Khag khan? bihan?ang khal dal khan?ang at(i) ran man?ang bar ban?ang||
The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield.

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ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ
Bhuj dan? akhan?ang tej prachan?ang jot(i) aman?ang bhaan prabhang||
It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum.

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ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ
Sukh santaa karanang durmat(i) daranang kilbikh haranang as(i) saranang||
It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge.

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ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ
Jai jai jag kaaran sristtee ubaaran mam pratipaaran jai tegang||2||
Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory. 2.

We find hailing of sword and seeking help from the same in the same way Bhagouti means sword


ਲਈ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਦੁਰਗਸਾਹ ਵਰ ਜਾਗਨ ਭਾਰੀ
LaibhagautiDurgsaah var jaagan bhaaree||
Durga held out her sword, appearing like great lustrous fire;
Line 14
(Var Bhagouti Ji Ki Sahib verse 53).

So Durga and Bhagouti are different

So this is not Durga at all.


ਚੰਡੀ ਦੀ ਵਾਰ
Chan?oo ?oo Vaar
NAME OF THE BANI.
Line 7


ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ
Ik Oankaar Waheguroo joo koo Fateh||
The Lord is one and the Victory is of the Lord.
Line 8


ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ
Sroo Bhagautoo joo sahaae||
May SRI BHAGAUTI JI (The Sword) be Helpful.
Line 9


ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਪਾਤਸਾਹੀ ੧੦
Vaar Sroo Bhagautoo ji koo|| Paatsaahoo||10||
The Heroic Poem of Sri Bhagauti Ji (Goddess Durga). (By) Th Tenth Kingg (Guru).
Line 10


ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਭਗੌਤੀ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਕੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਈਂ ਧਿਆਇ
Pritham bhagautoo simar(i) kai Gur Naanak laoon dhiaae||
In the beginning I remember Bhagauti, the Lord (Whose symbol is the sword and then I remember Guru Nanak.
Line 11

ਫਿਰ ਅੰਗਦ ਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਅਮਰਦਾਸੁ ਰਾਮਦਾਸੈ ਹੋਈਂ ਸਹਾਇ
Phir Angad Gur te Amardas(u) raamdasai hooon sahaae||
Then I remember Guru Arjan, Guru Amar Das and Guru Ram Das, may they be helpful to me.
Line 12


ਅਰਜਨ ਹਰਿਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਨੋ ਸਿਮਰੌ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਹਰਿਰਾਇ
Arjan Harigobind no simrau Sroo Hariraae||
Then I remember Guru Arjan, Guru Hargobind and Guru Har Rai.
Line 13


ਸ੍ਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਜਿਸ ਡਿਠੇ ਸਭਿ ਦੁਖਿ ਜਾਇ
Sri Har(i) Kishan dhiaaooai jis ?ithe sabh(i) dukh(i) jaae||
(After them) I remember Guru Har Kishan, by whose sight all the sufferings vanish.
Line 14

ਤੇਗ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਸਿਮਰਿਐ ਘਰ ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਆਵੈ ਧਾਇ
Teg Bahaadar simariai ghar nau nidh(i) aavai dhaae||||
Then I do remember Guru Tegh Bahadur, though whose Grace the nine treasures come running to my house.

Page 298, Line 1


ਸਭ ਥਾਈਂ ਹੋਇ ਸਹਾਇ
Sabh thaaoon hoe sahaae||1||
May they be helpful to me everywhere.1.

Page 298, Line 2
Verse 1.

Then had these been the work of poet from the court of Tenth Master then why have they not mentioned the Tenth Master ?

Now the next verse.


ਪਉੜੀ
Pauree||
PAURI

Page 298, Line 3


ਖੰਡਾ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੈ ਸਾਜ ਕੈ ਜਿਨ ਸਭ ਸੈਸਾਰੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ
Khan?aa prithmai saaj kai jin sabh saisaar(u) upaaiaa||
At first the Lord created the double-edged sword and then He created the whole world.

Page 298, Line 4


ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਦਾ ਖੇਲੁ ਰਚਾਇ ਬਣਾਇਆ
Brahmaa Bisan(u) Mahes saaj(i) kudrat(i) daa khel(u) rachaae banaaiaa||
He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva and then created the play of Nature.

Page 298, Line 5


ਸਿੰਧ ਪਰਬਤ ਮੇਦਨੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹਾ ਗਗਨਿ ਰਹਾਇਆ
Sindh parbat medanoo bin(u) thanmhaa gagan(i) rachaaiaa||
He created the oceans, mountains and the earth made the sky stable without columns.

Page 298, Line 6


ਸਿਰਜੇ ਦਾਨੋ ਦੇਵਤੇ ਤਿਨ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਬਾਦੁ ਰਚਾਇਆ
Sirje daano devate tin andar(i) baad(u) rachaaiaa||
He created the demons and gods and caused strife between them.

Page 298, Line 7


ਤੈ ਹੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੈ ਦੈਤਾ ਦਾ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਾਇਆ
Tai hoo Durgaa saaj(i) kai daigaa daa naas(u) karaaiaa||
O Lord! By creating Durga, Thou hast caused the destruction of demons.

Page 298, Line 8
(Verse 2, Var Bhaouti Ji Ki Sahib)
(So Durga is a creation and tool for the destruction of demons)

Then we find writer cribbing about name coming in last verse as Durga Path. Just by naming lesson/path by some one/some thing does not makes that lesson dedicated to worship of that thing.

There is Bani on Ang 234 of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, named after Camel but that does not means that said Bani teaches us to worship Camel, in the same way this text in question inspite of name does not make us to worship Durga.



After telling to change holy verse above he teaches us that it is against Sikhism to change what Guru has written with an example of Baba Ram Rai Changing Mussalman with beiman and having wrath from Guru.

So he wants us t repeat the same with our Ardas also.

We agree that creator is Guru and is never forgetful.

Then he talks about drugs, female’s slander and creation related issues without quotes. Had he given the quotes his doubts would have been cleared.

Now talking about Shiv Purana.

Well does Shri Dasham Granth Sahib supports the worship of Phallus. Only two out of many examples opposing that.


ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜਪਿਓ ਅਰੁ ਸੰਭ ਥਪਿਓ ਤਿਹ ਤੇ ਤੁਹਿ ਕੋ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਬਚਾਯੋ
Brahm japio ar(u) sanbh(u) thapio tih te tuh(i) ko kinhoon na bachaayo||
Thou hast recited the name of Brahma and established Shivalingam, even then none could save thee.
Line 2
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 1.97)

ਪਾਇ ਪਰੋ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਕੇ ਜੜ ਪਾਹਨ ਮੈਂ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਨਾਹੀ ੯੯
P3e paro Parmesar ke ja? paahan main Parmesar naahoo||99||
O fool! Fall at the feet of Lord-God, the Lord is not within the stone-idols.99.
Line 12


(Vachitar Natak Sahib 1.97)

Charitropakhyan Sahib 266 verse 20, 21.

Likewise showing Shiv lower then Mahakal in Charitropakhyan Sahib 266 Verse 96,101,109.

Chartropakhyan Sahib 405 Verses 82,97,383,384.

Then let us talk Mahakal but before we move, it should be clarified that this wrong on part of writer to call Shiv ,Shrimad Bhagvat and Markanday Purana as Brahmins’ as they were written by Ved Vysa keeping Shudras in mind as they could not read Vedas, if they dare to then molten lead was to be put in their ears.

Tantric text is further nothing to do with Brahmins, There most time is spent in creamtion ground with scavengers who are out caste. To join the Shakta order, one has to give up caste, while sitting in circle called Bhairavi Chakra where each convert will have wine and meat from same vessal.

If Akal permit any way at end of all texts one photo each of Mahakal and his wife Mahakil will be given taken from their temples which are often adjacent . Both rooms having one idol each.

Let us take Shiv Puran first.

Term Mahakal comes three times.


  • As a phallus of Ujjain where we find only talk about emerging of phallus and not deity appearing at all.(Chaturthi Koti Rudra Sanhita Chapter 16)
  • Story of Bhairav, where he is called Mahakal, (in Mahanirvan Tantra like some other Tantra we find term Bhairav used for Shiv only). Bhairav is deemed as warier form of Shiva and head of the police department of Kashi/Kashi Ke Kotwal but in Shiv Purana it is more an incarnation.(Tritiya Shat Rudra Sanhita Chapter 8,9)
  • In the context of husband of Ten Great Educations or form of demigoddess as a husband of Mahakali or Kali. .(Tritiya Shat Rudra Sanhita Chapter 17)

Now there are two places where this Mahakal is deemed smaller then Akal Purakh in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib , let us take an example form Vachitar Natak Sahib.



ਮਹਾ ਤੇਜ ਤੇਜੰ ਮਹਾ ਜ੍ਵਾਲ ਜ੍ਵਾਲੰ ਮਹਾ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੰ ਮਹਾ ਕਾਲ ਕਾਲੰ ੧੭
Mahaa tej tejang mahaa jvaal jvaalang|| Mahaa mantra mantrang mahaa kaal kaalang||17||
He is the Most Effulgent of all lights and Supreme Conflagration of all fires. He is the Supreme Spell of all incantations and Supreme embodiment of Death over all such powers.17.
Line 7
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 1.17)

Then we must understand the full name of this Mahakal is Mahakal Bhairav(this is different from Tripur Bhairav, Husband of Tripura Bhairavi, and Yogi Bhairav Nath associated with demigoddess of Dakshi Margi Shaktas, Vaishnu Devi, Thought to belittle Vam Margis, they show their demigod subdued by Vaishnu Devi, while that Bhairav Nath was a yogi about 900 years before. That is also mentioned in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, this makes it unique as Sikhs Gurus tried to bring conformity between opposite Hindus and Muslims by using terms from both faith, likewise they did use terms used by Both Vam Margi and Dakshin Margi Shaktas, which due to the stiff competition between them is impossible for either of them to use each others deity to be same.)

So this Husband and Wife of Kali and (Kal)Bhairav are told in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib as subsidiary participants in some wars. One Example as follows.


ਕਿ ਭੈਰ ਭਭੱਕੈ ਕਿ ਕਾਲੀ ਕੁਹੱਕੈ ਕਿ ਜੋਗੰਨ ਜੁੱਟੀ ਕਿ ਲੈ ਪਤ੍ਰ ਘੁੱਟੀ ੪੯੨੭੬
Ki Bhairau bhabhakkai|| Ki kaalikuhakkai|| Ki jogann juttee|| Ki lai patra ghuttee||49||276||
The goddess Kali is laughing, the Bhairavas are thundering and holding their vassels in the hands, the Yoginis have gathered together for drinking blood.49.276.
Line 4
(Paras Nath Rudra Avtar Sahib)

Likewise similar mention of Bhairav is there in Charritropakhyan Sahib 405 Verse 272.

In the same way let us now go in for forgetfulness.
Before we proceed it is clarified that Gurubar Akal is poet or God is poet and as told in previous chapter ,an example from Holy Koran that God tells receiver to pray in this way. So let us understand that poet addressed to is God, Prayer to God is done by Tenth Master.

Page 181:- After seeing Fault Oh God, Do not make fun(vide you manifestations)..
Page 254:- The book is improved upon by your mercy..Fall of mistake be taken (care of) with improvement..
Page310:-say as per mind the character of Krishna.. (let)Mistake happened be rectified by poet (God)..
Page 354:-Did story improved in 1745.. Here and there mistake happened Oh poet have all rectified..
Page 386:- By mercy of saber hand, booklet is created (after) thought..
Mistake happened here and there Oh poet read it all rectified..
Page 570:- From that little story was made to be said.. Seeing Mistake Oh poet make it up..
Page 1273:- From that some bit of story was pronounced.. Mistake happened Oh poet! Take improvement/improve them..

These all are lessons of humbleness given to us by God via Tenth Master.

Similar things of belittling self are there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also.


(੨੨੩-, ਗਉੜੀ ਗੁਆਰੇਰੀ, )
ਨਾਨਕੁ ਨੀਚ ਕਹੈ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ
naanak neech kehai liv laae ||8||4||
Nanak, the lowly, says embrace love for the Lord. ||8||4||
1 Gaurhee Guaarayree Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 223)


(੭੯੫-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਏਤੇ ਕੂਕਰ ਹਉ ਬੇਗਾਨਾ ਭਉਕਾ ਇਸੁ ਤਨ ਤਾਈ
eaethae kookar ho baegaanaa bhoukaa eis than thaaee ||
Among so many dogs, I am an outcast; I bark for my body's belly.
7 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 795)


(੧੭੨-੧੧, ਗਉੜੀ ਪੂਰਬੀ, )
ਹਮ ਅਪਰਾਧ ਪਾਪ ਬਹੁ ਕੀਨੇ ਕਰਿ ਦੁਸਟੀ ਚੋਰ ਚੁਰਾਇਆ
ham aparaadhh paap bahu keenae kar dhusattee chor churaaeiaa ||
I am a sinner - I have committed so many sins; I am a villainous, thieving thief.
11 Gaurhee Poorbee Guru Ram Das
(Ang 172)

(੨੪-੧੭, ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ, )
ਮੈ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਤਾ ਹਰਾਮਖੋਰ
mai keethaa n jaathaa haraamakhor ||
I have not appreciated what You have done for me, Lord; I take from others and exploit them.
17 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 24)


(੭੩੮-੧੩, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਬਿਨਉ ਸੁਨੀਜੈ
kahu naanak prabh bino suneejai ||
Says Nanak, hear my prayer, God:
13 Soohee Guru Arjan Dev


(੭੩੮-੧੩, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਕੁਚਲੁ ਕਠੋਰੁ ਕਾਮੀ ਮੁਕਤੁ ਕੀਜੈ
kuchal kathor kaamee mukath keejai ||4||
I am silly, stubborn and filled with sexual desire - please, liberate me! ||4||
13 Soohee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 738)

(੨੨੮-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਹਮ ਪਾਪੀ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਕਉ ਗੁਣੁ ਕਰੀਐ
ham paapee niragun ko gun kareeai ||
I am a worthless sinner, without merit. What merit do I have?
9 Gaurhee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 228)

(੬੩੬-੧੯, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਹਉ ਪਾਪੀ ਪਾਖੰਡੀਆ ਭਾਈ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਨਾਮ ਵਿਸੇਖੁ ਰਹਾਉ
ho paapee paakhanddeeaa bhaaee man than naam visaekh || rehaao ||
I am a hypocritical sinner, O Siblings of Destiny. Bless my mind and body with Your Name, O Lord. ||Pause||
19 Sorith Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 636)

So should writer take literal meaning of verse above without understanding the essence of humbleness?

Then some example of calling self as forgetful from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.


(੯੬੩-੧੧, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਸਲੋਕ
salok ma 5 ||
Shalok, Fifth Mehl:
11 null null


(੯੬੩-੧੧, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਮਿਤ੍ਰੁ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੀ ਮੈ ਛਡਿ ਗਵਾਇਆ ਰੰਗਿ ਕਸੁੰਭੈ ਭੁਲ
mithra piaaraa naanak jee mai shhadd gavaaeiaa rang kasunbhai bhulee ||
I abandoned and lost my Beloved Friend, O Nanak; I was fooled by the transitory color of the safflower, which fades away.
11 Raamkalee Guru Arjan Dev


(੯੬੩-੧੨, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਤਉ ਸਜਣ ਕੀ ਮੈ ਕੀਮ ਪਉਦੀ ਹਉ ਤੁਧੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਢੁ ਲਹਦੀ
tho sajan kee mai keem n poudhee ho thudhh bin adt n lehadhee ||1||
I did not know Your value, O my Friend; without You, I am not worth even half a shell. ||1||
12 Raamkalee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 963)


(੧੧੭੧-, ਬਸੰਤੁ ਹਿੰਡੋਲ, )
ਮੇਰੇ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਹਉ ਆਪੇ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਣੀ
maerae saahibaa ho aapae bharam bhulaanee ||
O my Lord and Master, I am deluded by doubt.
6 Basant Hindol Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1171)


(੧੭੧-, ਗਉੜੀ ਪੂਰਬੀ, )
ਹਮ ਭੂਲ ਚੂਕ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਧਾਰਹੁ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਕੁਤਰੇ ਕਾਢੇ ੨੧੫੯
ham bhool chook gur kirapaa dhhaarahu jan naanak kutharae kaadtae ||4||7||21||59||
For my failings and mistakes, O Guru, grant me Your Grace; servant Nanak is Your obedient dog. ||4||7||21||59||
5 Gaurhee Poorbee Guru Ram Das
(Ang 171)


(੨੬੧-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਸਲੋਕੁ
salok ||
Shalok:
1 null null


(੨੬੧-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਲੇਖੈ ਕਤਹਿ ਛੂਟੀਐ ਖਿਨੁ ਖਿਨੁ ਭੂਲਨਹਾਰ
laekhai kathehi n shhootteeai khin khin bhoolanehaar ||
Because of the balance due on his account, he can never be released; he makes mistakes each and every moment.
1 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev


(੨੬੧-, ਗਉੜੀ, )
ਬਖਸਨਹਾਰ ਬਖਸਿ ਲੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਪਾਰਿ ਉਤਾਰ
bakhasanehaar bakhas lai naanak paar outhaar ||1||
O Forgiving Lord, please forgive me, and carry Nanak across. ||1||
2 Gaurhee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 261)


(੮੦੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਹਮ ਅਪਰਾਧੀ ਸਦ ਭੂਲਤੇ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਬਖਸਨਹਾਰੇ ਰਹਾਉ
ham aparaadhhee sadh bhoolathae thumh bakhasanehaarae ||1|| rehaao ||
I am a sinner, continuously making mistakes; You are the Forgiving Lord. ||1||Pause||
3 Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 809)

(੮੫੫-੧੫, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਮੈ ਬਿਗਰੇ ਅਪਨੀ ਮਤਿ ਖੋਈ
mai bigarae apanee math khoee ||
I am spoiled; I have lost my intellect.
15 Bilaaval Saint Kabir


(੮੫੫-੧੫, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਮੇਰੇ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੂਲ ਮਤਿ ਕੋਈ
maerae bharam bhoolo math koee ||3||
Let no one go astray in doubt like me. ||3||
15 Bilaaval Saint Kabir
(Ang 855)

(੯੮੯-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਬਾਬਾ ਮੈ ਕਰਮਹੀਣ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ
baabaa mai karameheen koorriaar ||
Father, I am unfortunate, a fraud.
6 Maaroo Guru Nanak Dev


(੯੮੯-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਨਾਮੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਧਾ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੂਲ ਮਨੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਰਹਾਉ
naam n paaeiaa thaeraa andhhaa bharam bhoolaa man maeraa ||1|| rehaao ||
I have not found Your Name; my mind is blind and deluded by doubt. ||1||Pause||
6 Maaroo Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 989)

(੧੦੮੭-੧੪, ਮਾਰੂ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਭੂਲ ਭੂਲੀ ਮੈ ਫਿਰੀ ਪਾਧਰੁ ਕਹੈ ਕੋਇ
bhoolee bhoolee mai firee paadhhar kehai n koe ||
Confused and deluded, I wander around, but no one shows me the way.
14 Maaroo Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1087)

(੧੨੧੩-, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਹਮ ਭੂਲ ਤੁਮ ਸਦਾ ਅਭੂਲਾ ਹਮ ਪਤਿਤ ਤੁਮ ਪਤਿਤ ਉਧਰੀਆ
ham bhooleh thum sadhaa abhoolaa ham pathith thum pathith oudhhareeaa ||
I am mistaken; You are never mistaken. I am a sinner; You are the Saving Grace of sinners.
7 Sarang Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1213)

Here human form is said to be forgetful in front of God.



(੧੪੦੬-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਬਲ)
ਹਮ ਅਵਗੁਣਿ ਭਰੇ ਏਕੁ ਗੁਣੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਛਾਡਿ ਬਿਖੈ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਈ
ham avagun bharae eaek gun naahee anmrith shhaadd bikhai bikh khaaee ||
I am overflowing with sins and demerits; I have no merits or virtues at all. I abandoned the Ambrosial Nectar, and I drank poison instead.
8 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Bal


(੧੪੦੬-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਬਲ)
ਮਾਯਾ ਮੋਹ ਭਰਮ ਪੈ ਭੂਲੇ ਸੁਤ ਦਾਰਾ ਸਿਉ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਲਗਾਈ
maayaa moh bharam pai bhoolae suth dhaaraa sio preeth lagaaee ||
I am attached to Maya, and deluded by doubt; I have fallen in love with my children and spouse.
9 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Bal


(੧੪੦੬-, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਬਲ)
ਇਕੁ ਉਤਮ ਪੰਥੁ ਸੁਨਿਓ ਗੁਰ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਤਿਹ ਮਿਲੰਤ ਜਮ ਤ੍ਰਾਸ ਮਿਟਾਈ
eik outham panthh suniou gur sangath thih milanth jam thraas mittaaee ||
I have heard that the most exalted Path of all is the Sangat, the Guru's Congregation. Joining it, the fear of death is taken away.
9 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Bal


(੧੪੦੬-੧੦, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਬਲ)
ਇਕ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਭਾਟ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਕੀ ਗੁਰ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਰਾਖਹੁ ਸਰਣਾਈ ੫੮
eik aradhaas bhaatt keerath kee gur raamadhaas raakhahu saranaaee ||4||58||
Keerat the poet offers this one prayer: O Guru Raam Daas, save me! Take me into Your Sanctuary! ||4||58||
10 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Bal
(Ang 1406)
 
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Hiqayats.

There are versions of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib where Jaffernamah is not there as first chapter and rest 11 Hiqyats are there. Those are older versions of the time when Jaffernammah was not written. It was Bhai Mani Singh who added Jaffernammah as first chapter . Hiqyat litraly means chapter and these stories are composition of chapters.

It is possibility that Tenth Master being King of Kings did send these Hiqayats to Aurangzeb alongside Jaffernammah as he was Guru of whole world and he had his duty to teach Aurangzeb also the truth.

In the criticism of Hiqayats writer says that two stories look similar to Charitropakhyan, that is nothing to be taken as negative as Chritropakhyan also give us lesson for life.

As per writer story 5 and 12 are about deception of lady. He does not elaborate but both will be explained here itself.

In Chapter 5, we have story where a lady tries to seduce her would be paramour, who tells her to kill her Muslim Judge husband first. She does the same and brings in his head. Paramour refuses his advances. Stating the reason ,about the fear of his own life. She plays a trick. She comes back to home and tell people that her husband is killed by man. As proof trial of blood is found to route to her would be paramour(as she took head there). He is caught and taken to the court of Grand Father of Aurangzeb ,Jahangir ,who was about to pronounce the verdict of punishment ,she by gesticulation of eyes, convinces the paramour to obey her and his life will be spared. He agrees, She in turn tells the emperor that she forgives the convict and wants to go to pilgrimage to Mecca. Her wish is granted. She moves out of her house on pretext of going to Mecca, while with her expensive belonging reaches the home of paramour.

Points which could be derived from this story.

  • Family of ruling judges etc. is immoral and judge could not save himself the how could he save the public.
  • Mogul King could be befooled very easily.
  • Pilgrimage etc. often has some other personal reasons than say spiritual one.

If Guru is attacking the ruling Muslim class then what sympathy does writer has with them ?

Chapter 12, talks of queen of Pathan, first committing adultery then, in order to avoid the getting caught, kills and cooks her paramour and let her Husband eat it. Here writer tells a lie that in both the cases women kills the paramour. And let her husband eat the meat of paramour. While this is the case of 12th chapter only. So this proves that writer himself does not know Farsi and he may not have read the chapter even.

Chapter 12 teaches us another thing.

  • Royal Family of Pathans, who have been looting India form 600 years or so is immoral.
  • Pathan king was befooled by his wife so he is also unfit to rule.
  • Cannibalism is talked about, some reference to this is there in holy Bible wide II Kings 6/29 and there could be more but this does not means that Holy Bible preach the same rather in case of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, we are told about acts of non Sikhs going up to such extent.
There has been talk of cannibalism in Veer Savarkar book dealing with Andaman Jail or Kala Pani, where a Baloch is talked about having Cannibalism, which proves that such un Islamic practice did exists.

Eating flesh or blood from breads as in case of Malik Bhago tells, the oppression by the rulers.

So no onne attacks on the female but attacks the system.
Then writer quotes a few verse at end of each Hiqayats.

Let us take this one from Chapter 12 Verse 20 and 21.

Oh! Cup bearer give me a cup of refreshing manner. For me it is with use/work in war..20..
Do (Make me) full till top, with the instance of breadth do(make me) agrrebale/full of joy.. Do (make me) forget sorrow of two world..21..

So some thing is written in Farsi further regarding the writer. Better he learns this language before then to comment on this work of Kadimi Farsi. Fact is that writer does not know Braj either that well.

Fahmedeam Ke Aga E Shuja E Lashker Sheer, Farsi Nadanad.

Thing was to do with term Sabj which has many meaning while as Rattan Singh Jaggi took it for wine while no where term Mai was used so writer simply copies the translation.

Chapter 2 verses at last of it ie 60,61 as per work by Dr. Jodh Singh.
Oh cup bearer give me a cup of joyous tone.. As to me (it) is with use/work in the time of war..64.. Give me so that I could try destiny/luck. To saber and self(of that)
(I) [/FONT]do action..65..2..
(here it is to do with enthusiasm of war)


Chapter 3 verse 56.

Oh cup bearer give me a cup of joyous tone.. As to me (it) is with use/work in the time of war..64.. Oh Cup bearer give me a cup of eye(and) hand. Which makes hundred year old a young..65..3..
(here it is to do with enthusiasm of war)
Chapter 4 verse 140,141.

Oh ! cup bearer give me a cup of victory colored/some what of victory. It is of use/work of me (in) all days..140..You give it to me I become fresh hearted. So that I (as an order) bring gem/pearl from muddy pollution..141..4..
(here talk is of better discretion of mind)

Chapter 5, Verse 50,51.
Give! Oh cupbearer the cup of victory’s hue. It is of my work during the time of joining/linking..50..Give me so that I make brain more prosperous. Because then I could lighten up the lamps..51..5..

(here we have talk of spiritual unity)
Chapter 6 verse 42,43
Give ! Oh cupbearer! Cup of joy in hand. As deliberative nature of lord is visible in universe..42..Give Cup bearer ! cup of victory’s hue. Because that in time of night, happens to be the good day of war..43..6..
(here war is not liked)

Chapter 7 verse 48,49
Give Oh cupbearer ! cup with the hue of blush. It is of work of me in continuity of time..48.. Give me a cup of color full victory’s hue. As to me it happens to welcome at time of war..49..7..

(here we have talk of blush due to excitement of war)

Chapater 8 verse 46,47
Oh Cupbearer ! give me hue of blush(like common color common in ) Europeans(in case original text has Farhang and not farang then it means cultured). To me (it) welcomes at the time of making blows of sword in war..46.. With me give so that to self I do unite correctly/I do think of myself. With sword I try their mountains/difficulties or with sword, I suppress (vices) ..47..8..

(this again is to do with war)

Chapter 9 verse 43,44

Give Oh cupbearer ! a cup of joy to me. So that I give you my secret wealth/ the secret treasure I am giving is from/of/attributed towards you...43..Give ! cupbearer cup of hue of joy. That it may be an object in the time of throwing off the foe..44..9..
(Again we have talk to fight the foe)

Chapter 10 verse 178,179
Give! Cupbearer cup of joy(like) river/water/juice of joy. So that throw out the Curtin of veil. .178.. Give ! Oh Cupbearer ! joy, the hue of Europe. As it is of/from the day of war, is of use (at) time..179..10..

(again joy in war is talked about)

Chapter 11 verse 59,56
Give Oh Cup bearer! Cup of tuning in fire. In the time of their war, come to use..59.. As (it) is good in the time of throwing enemy. That one swallowing of that spearhead toward the jumbo..60..11..

(Again was is talked about)

Writer conceals the fact.

In all 11 Chapters First two verses (in second one we have four)are said by poet in praise of God and with all Muslim/Arabic terminology with a few Farsi words . No goddess worshipper could do this as there is no motive for that. But such things do happens in Sikh.

Likewise in last two verses are of prayer.

And as per this writer wants to convey that poet is of low morality or say pro drugs, wine etc.

Futher he says that Kaljaman is told to be speaking Farsi. Well if writer see Mahankosh there are two views about this foreign invader. Either he was from Greece or from Iran.
His saying that poet Syam knows Farsi also is again useless as poet here knows all the language. All dialect and languages originates from that poet.

Writer further goes with another gimmick . He gives few reasons which prove that writer of Japu Sahib and Hiqyats is name. And due to this Japu Sahib should also be discarded.

Let us see the issues raised by him.

  • There is term Shri Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh, while Panj Piara’s during Baptism tell not to use Shri Wahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Shri Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh.
Answer: what a hypocrisy on the part of writer. Same Panj Piara read Japu Sahib along with Sudha Swwavye and Chaupayee Sahib during preparing Amrit and tell the baptized person to read two Japu Sahib and Sudha Svvaye daily in morning and Rahiras Sahib in evening which again has Chaupayee Sahib. Writer remembers the correction done to salutation while does not agree to Panj Piaras regarding other things they do rather use their work only to oppose other things they say. If Panj Piaras as per tradition tell to say Fateh correctly then with tradition (with written records from history) do tell to have faith in Japu Sahib along side other two Banis mentioned above. Writer can not be selective to follow them.

Anyway regarding why Shri is used before work of Tenth Master and not in our salutation. When Sikh meets some one the he tells that this pure one belongs to God and victory/success belongs to God.

While in case of Guru, he tells that this is not his work or work of Human form of Tenth Master. It is work of God, who manifests self in mammon.

We use term Shri Sahib for sword. That means wealth of Lord, which we have.

Term Shri is meant for Laxmi, which is a form of Hindu demigoddess but in Sikhs Laxmi is treated as mammon and God is her master rather God manifests self in her.

As building is bound to be different in structure then the structure of foundation but are based on the foundation so is the case of Tenth Master with previous Gurus.

Shri Guru Granth Sahib tells us to unite with God while living in mammon and get God from there itself.


(੯੨੧-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਜਿਨਾ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੀ ਤਿਨੀ ਵਿਚੇ ਮਾਇਆ ਪਾਇਆ ੨੯
kehai naanak gur parasaadhee jinaa liv laagee thinee vichae maaeiaa paaeiaa ||29||
Says Nanak, by Guru's Grace, those who enshrine love for the Lord find Him, in the midst of Maya. ||29||
5 Raamkalee Guru Amar Das
(Ang 921)

We had the principle of Miri and Piri since the time of Sixth Master, this concept is not there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, nor concept of Akal Takhat is in there. This concept tells that spiritual power should always keep control over political power.

Sixth Master fought all his four wars in defense from invaders. While Seventh Master once only helped Dara Shikoh for the fact that his ideology was nearer to Sikhism then the one of Aurnagzeb and there was a chance of his coming in Punjab in distress. By anyway it could not be taken as something which was intended to make Sikhs a political power. They were more of based upon the circumstances.

While in the case of Tenth Master we see him taking preemptive action. Which made him first time attacked by Hindus(18 wars) while rest three hand one war gain with united forces of Hindus and Muslims.

The reason was that Tenth Master was First Guru out of Ten who had a plan to give Sikhs the nation. Previous nine wanted that ruler could be just and let him remain good with Sikhs and non Sikhs alike and do not discriminate against any one based upon caste/creed.

Then Master thought that no one else could be such a good ruler then Sikhs themselves.

Khalsa shall rule comes with Tankhanammah Bhai Nand Lal verse 36.

If we believes in Karni Nammah by First Master then it also talks about rule of Khalsa in the form of Tenth Master.

Oh yes such things are not there in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. So Sikhs should not think of having own rule. There is not any way a support to make a different free state in Punjab by violent means. By democratically preaching Sikhism to the world and after majority of world is converted into faith. Brining in the laws as par with Sikhism. But people opposing Shri Dasham Granth Sahib have a motive. They will make Sikhs afraid of a totally weak ideology called Hindutva. Then they will tell them that Sikh Institutions are in their control. In order to not let them misuse the Sikh funds. Vote for seculars(this term from French revolution talks of separation of God from the government ). This is the agenda of secular ruling India, that Sikhism, the biggest threat to their corrupt regime should die down and they use their agents spreading the fear, just to make Sikhs vote for them(see the recent article of Ikvak Singh Patti, about who should Sikhs vote during general elections 2009).

As atheist themselves are secular and planted so they call genuine guys also as planted. It is useless to expect that slaves of secular guys could bring in rule of saint soldiers.

Fact is that rule of Saint Soldiers was concept of Tenth Master. He only told Sikhs to overtake the resources of rulers. In his life there are examples of his sending one of his son to rescue a girl from the rulers of Hoashiarpur and similarly his sending forces to Nadaun also tells the same story.

So to get mammon, while remembering God was difficult thing yet Guru made it simple by telling that Mammon is nothing but the manifestation of God.

So all the work of attributed to the Tenth Master should be attributed to Lord(Wahiguru) manifesting self in Shri (or maya or Mammon)

(੧੩੮੮-, ਸਵਈਏ, )
ਸ੍ਰੀਪਤਿ ਨਾਥ ਸਰਣਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਨ ਹੇ ਭਗਵੰਤ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਿ ਤਾਰਹੁ
sreepath naathh saran naanak jan hae bhagavanth kirapaa kar thaarahu ||5||
O Great Lord and Master, servant Nanak seeks Your Sanctuary; please shower him with Your Mercy, and carry him across. ||5||
5 Sava-yay Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1388)


(੧੪੦੨-੧੪, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਸਤਿ ਸਾਚੁ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਿਵਾਸੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਦਾ ਤੁਹੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ
sath saach sree nivaas aadh purakh sadhaa thuhee vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahiguroo vaahi jeeo ||1||6||
You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Guru, Waahay Jee-o. ||1||6||
14 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand
(Ang 1402)

(੧੨੩੨-, ਸਾਰਗ, )
ਸ੍ਰੀਧ ਨਾਥ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੁ ਲੀਨਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਜਾਨੈ ਪੀਰ ਪਰਾਈ
sreedhhar naathh maeraa man leenaa prabh jaanai peer paraaee ||1||
My mind is absorbed into the Lord, my Lord and Master. Only God knows the pain of another. ||1||
7 Sarang Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1232)

(੪੩੭-੧੨, ਆਸਾ, )
ਸਾਇਰ ਕੀ ਪੁਤ੍ਰੀ ਪਰਹਰਿ ਤਿਆਗੀ ਚਰਣ ਤਲੈ ਵੀਚਾਰੇ
saaeir kee puthree parehar thiaagee charan thalai veechaarae ||
I have renounced Maya, the daughter of the ocean; reflecting upon reality, I have trampled it under my feet.
12 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 437)

Here Laxmi is doughter of sea came out after churning of ocean.
Again mammon is told to be Kaula

(੩੯੨-੧੭, ਆਸਾ, )
ਕਉਲਾ ਬਪੁਰੀ ਸੰਤੀ ਛਲੀ
koulaa bapuree santhee shhalee ||3||
The Saints have enticed Maya herself. ||3||
17 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 392)

Then both are termed as same.


(੧੧੯੦-੧੦, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਆਪੇ ਕਵਲ ਕੰਤੁ ਆਪਿ
aapae kavalaa kanth aap ||
He Himself is Lakshmi, and He Himself is her husband.
10 Basant Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1190)

So as per this verse below to Get Maamon not by renouncing but fighting God was to be remembered within it.


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਗੂਜਰੀ
goojaree ||
Goojaree:
5 null null


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਜੋ ਲਛਮੀ ਸਿਮਰੈ ਐਸੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਜੇ ਮਰੈ
anth kaal jo lashhamee simarai aisee chinthaa mehi jae marai ||
At the very last moment, one who thinks of wealth, and dies in such thoughts,
5 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਸਰਪ ਜੋਨਿ ਵਲਿ ਵਲਿ ਅਉਤਰੈ
sarap jon val val aoutharai ||1||
shall be reincarnated over and over again, in the form of serpents. ||1||
6 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਅਰੀ ਬਾਈ ਗੋਬਿਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਮਤਿ ਬੀਸਰੈ ਰਹਾਉ
aree baaee gobidh naam math beesarai || rehaao ||
O sister, do not forget the Name of the Lord of the Universe. ||Pause||
6 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਜੋ ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਸਿਮਰੈ ਐਸੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਜੇ ਮਰੈ
anth kaal jo eisathree simarai aisee chinthaa mehi jae marai ||
At the very last moment, he who thinks of women, and dies in such thoughts,
7 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਬੇਸਵਾ ਜੋਨਿ ਵਲਿ ਵਲਿ ਅਉਤਰੈ
baesavaa jon val val aoutharai ||2||
shall be reincarnated over and over again as a prostitute. ||2||
7 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਜੋ ਲੜਿਕੇ ਸਿਮਰੈ ਐਸੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਜੇ ਮਰੈ
anth kaal jo larrikae simarai aisee chinthaa mehi jae marai ||
At the very last moment, one who thinks of his children, and dies in such thoughts,
8 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਸੂਕਰ ਜੋਨਿ ਵਲਿ ਵਲਿ ਅਉਤਰੈ
sookar jon val val aoutharai ||3||
shall be reincarnated over and over again as a pig. ||3||
8 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਜੋ ਮੰਦਰ ਸਿਮਰੈ ਐਸੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਜੇ ਮਰੈ
anth kaal jo mandhar simarai aisee chinthaa mehi jae marai ||
At the very last moment, one who thinks of mansions, and dies in such thoughts,
9 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਜੋਨਿ ਵਲਿ ਵਲਿ ਅਉਤਰੈ
praeth jon val val aoutharai ||4||
shall be reincarnated over and over again as a goblin. ||4||
9 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-੧੦, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਨਾਰਾਇਣੁ ਸਿਮਰੈ ਐਸੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਜੇ ਮਰੈ
anth kaal naaraaein simarai aisee chinthaa mehi jae marai ||
At the very last moment, one who thinks of the Lord, and dies in such thoughts,
10 Goojree Saint Trilochan


(੫੨੬-੧੦, ਗੂਜਰੀ, ਭਗਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ ਜੀ)
ਬਦਤਿ ਤਿਲੋਚਨੁ ਤੇ ਨਰ ਮੁਕਤਾ ਪੀਤੰਬਰੁ ਵਾ ਕੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਸੈ
badhath thilochan thae nar mukathaa peethanbar vaa kae ridhai basai ||5||2||
says Trilochan, that man shall be liberated; the Lord shall abide in his heart. ||5||2||
10 Goojree Saint Trilochan
(Ang 526)

So only while fight we were to get salvation while being alive.

Issue 2: Next point of the writer is objection to the name of poet as Shyam,

Answer : as told before in other chapters this means God, who has one of self Name as Shyam is poet.

Issue 3: There is some problem regarding worship of Shiv and PArvati.
Answer : It has been cleared that Mahakal, Kalka, Sarbkal etc, all means the same Akal Purakh and for details see form of worshipped issues raised by writer being resolved there.
Issue 4: he talks of high spiritual level and that by Ek Oankar and by reading works of Tenth Master people get severed from that.

Answer: Has writer himself obtained the high spiritual state that he could judge others and make such a comments ?

Issue 5: There are some words which are common to attribute given to Shiv in Shiv hundred names and Demigoddess in her seven Hundred names.

Answer: in Japu Sahib, we have intoxicator of world as Lok Mata

(੯੪੫-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਆ ਸਾਚੇ ਮਾਤਾ
anmrith peeaa saachae maathaa ||
Drinking in the Ambrosial Nectar, he is intoxicated with the Truth.
5 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 945)
Telling the term Mata has mother meaning also.


(੬੩੭-੧੯, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹ ਸਭ ਲੋਕ ਹੈ ਤੇਰੀ ਤੂ ਏਕੋ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਬਿਧਾਤਾ
maaeiaa moh sabh lok hai thaeree thoo eaeko purakh bidhhaathaa ||
All the people are enticed by Maya; they are Yours, Lord - You alone are the Architect of Destiny.
19 Sorith Guru Amar Das

(Ang 637)
Coming to Kalan Kal or death of death, while we get salvation we get free from death so death of Death occurs, that does mean God is death of death.(while in case of Shiv, he killed Death and god of death Yama to save Sage Markandey).



(੧੪੦੩-੧੯, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਮਾਨਹਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾਦਿਕ ਰੁਦ੍ਰਾਦਿਕ ਕਾਲ ਕਾ ਕਾਲ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਜਚਨਾ
maanehi brehamaadhik rudhraadhik kaal kaa kaal niranjan jachanaa ||
Brahmas and Shivas respect and obey You. O Death of death, Formless Lord, I beg of You.
19 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand
(Ang 1403)

Likewise perhaps writer has not read Vishnu Sasrnam, which are taken in from Mahabharata.
They are like:
Srinivas, Keshaw, Madhav Gobind, Shridhar, Gadadhar

And such names are used in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It is possible that today by his logic writer will make us discard Japu Sahib, then some other person will justify us due to our past action to discard Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also.

All the more reason this is going to be a attacking on soft target first and later the main Sikhism by atheists.

Issue 6: Why is this not included in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?

Answer : Had Guru only included this, which he did not as a mark of respect did this then people like writer would have told rest of his verse false. Had those also added then it would not have been possible to handle such a large volume.

Issue 7: as per writer previous nine Gurus have used word Nanak, then why not Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji ?

Answer: Only Six Gurus have used and not nine as writer says. There are verse outside Shri Guru Granth Sahib, which have term Nanak but could not be considered authentic by the creed of writer. And there are verses in Shri Guru Granth Sahib without term Nanak also.

Issue 8: New style of writing and different language.

Answer: As we see that within Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there is a Varity in Language and styles too. Keeping the same dynamism alive there is no restriction on Tenth Master to use newer style or language.


(੧੪੨੯-, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਦੋਹਰਾ
dhoharaa ||
Dohraa:
5 null null


(੧੪੨੯-, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਬਲੁ ਛੁਟਕਿਓ ਬੰਧਨ ਪਰੇ ਕਛੂ ਹੋਤ ਉਪਾਇ
bal shhuttakiou bandhhan parae kashhoo n hoth oupaae ||
My strength is exhausted, and I am in bondage; I cannot do anything at all.
6 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur


(੧੪੨੯-, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਅਬ ਓਟ ਹਰਿ ਗਜ ਜਿਉ ਹੋਹੁ ਸਹਾਇ ੫੩
kahu naanak ab outt har gaj jio hohu sehaae ||53||
Says Nanak, now, the Lord is my Support; He will help me, as He did the elephant. ||53||
6 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur
(Ang 1429)

We find Dohra in the work of Ninth Master.

As per Nabha Sahib definition of Chaupayee he takes and example from Japu Ji Sahib(Mahan Kosh), Further there is scope to see the relation between Chaupadai of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, with the structure of Chupayee.

Then he talks about verse by Tenth Master making person go away from Shri Guru Granth Sahib and principles having devation.

The question is that has he understood the principles and is he himself not gone away from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Then he talks to make Sikh code of conduct as per Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

So if by that logic someone proves Five Kes as contradictory or Singh surname contradictory then all Sikhism is going to be sabotage and this is what people who want to enslave Sikhs want.
 
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In here a few quotations from Shri Guru Granth Sahib are given first. Where we are told that it is better to avoid sexual desire and move for Saintly life.



(੧੩੭੩-, ਸਲੋਕ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਕਬੀਰ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਨਾਰੀ ਕਿਉ ਨਿੰਦੀਐ ਕਿਉ ਹਰਿ ਚੇਰੀ ਕਉ ਮਾਨੁ
kabeer nrip naaree kio nindheeai kio har chaeree ko maan ||
Kabeer, why do you slander the wife of the king? Why do you honor the slave of the Lord?
2 Salok Saint Kabir


(੧੩੭੩-, ਸਲੋਕ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਓਹ ਮਾਂਗ ਸਵਾਰੈ ਬਿਖੈ ਕਉ ਓਹ ਸਿਮਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ੧੬੦
ouh maang savaarai bikhai ko ouh simarai har naam ||160||
Because one combs her hair for corruption, while the other remembers the Name of the Lord. ||160||
2 Salok Saint Kabir
(Ang 1373)

(੬੯੭-੧੫, ਜੈਤਸਰੀ, )
ਜਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਬਸਿਓ ਤਿਨ ਮਾਤ ਕੀਜੈ ਹਰਿ ਬਾਂਝਾ
jin har hiradhai naam n basiou thin maath keejai har baanjhaa ||
The Lord's Name does not abide within their hearts - their mothers should have been sterile.
15 Jaitsaree Guru Ram Das
(Ang 697)
(੧੩੬੭-, ਸਲੋਕ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਕਬੀਰ ਬੈਸਨਉ ਕੀ ਕੂਕਰਿ ਭਲੀ ਸਾਕਤ ਕੀ ਬੁਰੀ ਮਾਇ
kabeer baisano kee kookar bhalee saakath kee buree maae ||
Kabeer, even the dog of a devotee is good, while the mother of the faithless cynic is bad.
4 Salok Saint Kabir
(Ang 1367)


(੧੩੫੪-, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਧ੍ਰਿਗ ਸ੍ਨੇਹੰ ਬਨਿਤਾ ਬਿਲਾਸ ਸੁਤਹ
dhhrig saaehan banithaa bilaas sutheh ||
Cursed is attachment to the joys of family life with one's spouse and children.
1 Sehaskritee Guru Arjan Dev


And
(੧੩੫੪-੧੭, ਸਹਸਕ੍ਰਿਤੀ, )
ਮਿਰਤ ਮੋਹੰ ਅਲਪ ਬੁਧ੍ਯ੍ਯੰ ਰਚੰਤਿ ਬਨਿਤਾ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਸਾਹੰ
mirath mohan alap budhhyan rachanth banithaa binodh saahan ||
The person of shallow understanding is dying in emotional attachment; he is engrossed in pursuits of pleasure with his wife.
17 Sehaskritee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1354)

(੫੫੬-, ਵਾਰ-ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ, )
ਪੁਤੁ ਜਿਨੂਰਾ ਧੀਅ ਜਿੰਨੂਰੀ ਜੋਰੂ ਜਿੰਨਾ ਦਾ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੁ
puth jinooraa dhheea jinnooree joroo jinnaa dhaa sikadhaar ||1||
The son is a demon, and the daughter is a demon; the wife is the chief of the demons. ||1||
8 Bihaagrhaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 556)

(੬੩੪-, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਘਰ ਕੀ ਨਾਰਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਹਿਤੁ ਜਾ ਸਿਉ ਸਦਾ ਰਹਤ ਸੰਗ ਲਾਗੀ
ghar kee naar bahuth hith jaa sio sadhaa rehath sang laagee ||
Your wife, whom you love so much, and who has remained ever attached to you,
3 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur


(੬੩੪-, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਜਬ ਹੀ ਹੰਸ ਤਜੀ ਇਹ ਕਾਂਇਆ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਕਰਿ ਭਾਗੀ
jab hee hans thajee eih kaaneiaa praeth praeth kar bhaagee ||2||
runs away crying, \"\"Ghost! Ghost!\"\", as soon as the swan-soul leaves this body. ||2||
4 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur
(Ang 634)


(੩੦੪-੧੨, ਗਉੜੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਮਨਮੁਖਾ ਦੈ ਸਿਰਿ ਜੋਰਾ ਅਮਰੁ ਹੈ ਨਿਤ ਦੇਵਹਿ ਭਲਾ
manamukhaa dhai sir joraa amar hai nith dhaevehi bhalaa ||
Over the head of the manmukh is the order of the woman; to her, he ever holds out his promises of goodness.
12 Gaurhee Guru Ram Das


(੩੦੪-੧੩, ਗਉੜੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਜੋਰਾ ਦਾ ਆਖਿਆ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਮਾਵਦੇ ਸੇ ਅਪਵਿਤ ਅਮੇਧ ਖਲਾ
joraa dhaa aakhiaa purakh kamaavadhae sae apavith amaedhh khalaa ||
Those men who act according to the orders of women are impure, filthy and foolish.
13 Gaurhee Guru Ram Das


(੩੦੪-੧੩, ਗਉੜੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਕਾਮਿ ਵਿਆਪੇ ਕੁਸੁਧ ਨਰ ਸੇ ਜੋਰਾ ਪੁਛਿ ਚਲਾ
kaam viaapae kusudhh nar sae joraa pushh chalaa ||
Those impure men are engrossed in sexual desire; they consult their women and walk accordingly.
13 Gaurhee Guru Ram Das
(Ang 304)

While in some cases find relative of Manmukh/non believers are condemned.
Where as at some places we find people following their wife are impure so on and so forth.
(Some examples taken from Sabh Dusht Jhakh Mara by Kanwar Ajeet Singh).

(੬੧੬-, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਦੇਇ ਕਿਵਾੜ ਅਨਿਕ ਪੜਦੇ ਮਹਿ ਪਰ ਦਾਰਾ ਸੰਗਿ ਫਾਕੈ
dhaee kivaarr anik parradhae mehi par dhaaraa sang faakai ||
Behind closed doors, hidden by many screens, the man takes his pleasure with another man's wife.
7 Sorith Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 616)
Here we see some guys putting wife above others while there is verse where sleeping with other wife is told.
(੧੧੯੪-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਜੋਇ ਖਸਮੁ ਹੈ ਜਾਇਆ
joe khasam hai jaaeiaa ||
The wife gives birth to her husband.
3 Basant Saint Kabir


(੧੧੯੪-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਪੂਤਿ ਬਾਪੁ ਖੇਲਾਇਆ
pooth baap khaelaaeiaa ||
The son leads his father in play.
3 Basant Saint Kabir


(੧੧੯੪-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਬਿਨੁ ਸ੍ਰਵਣਾ ਖੀਰੁ ਪਿਲਾਇਆ
bin sravanaa kheer pilaaeiaa ||1||
Without breasts, the mother nurses her baby. ||1||
3 Basant Saint Kabir


(੧੧੯੪-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਦੇਖਹੁ ਲੋਗਾ ਕਲਿ ਕੋ ਭਾਉ
dhaekhahu logaa kal ko bhaao ||
Behold, people! This is how it is in the Dark Age of Kali Yuga.
3 Basant Saint Kabir


(੧੧੯੪-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਸੁਤਿ ਮੁਕਲਾਈ ਅਪਨੀ ਮਾਉ ਰਹਾਉ
suth mukalaaee apanee maao ||1|| rehaao ||
The son marries his mother. ||1||Pause||
(Ang 1194)

We need to understand that as per the examples above we find son sleeping with mother, mother giving birth to husband.

From above examples we find that people do commit adulatory with other wives. Is it OK to call thoses ladies for.


(੪੭੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )

ma 1 ||
First Mehl:
7 null null


(੪੭੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਭੰਡਿ ਜੰਮੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਨਿੰਮੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਮੰਗਣੁ ਵੀਆਹੁ
bhandd janmeeai bhandd ninmeeai bhandd mangan veeaahu ||
From woman, man is born; within woman, man is conceived; to woman he is engaged and married.
8 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev


(੪੭੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਭੰਡਹੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਭੰਡਹੁ ਚਲੈ ਰਾਹੁ
bhanddahu hovai dhosathee bhanddahu chalai raahu ||
Woman becomes his friend; through woman, the future generations come.
8 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev


(੪੭੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਭੰਡੁ ਮੁਆ ਭੰਡੁ ਭਾਲੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਬੰਧਾਨੁ
bhandd muaa bhandd bhaaleeai bhandd hovai bandhhaan ||
When his woman dies, he seeks another woman; to woman he is bound.
8 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev


(੪੭੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਸੋ ਕਿਉ ਮੰਦਾ ਆਖੀਐ ਜਿਤੁ ਜੰਮਹਿ ਰਾਜਾਨ
so kio mandhaa aakheeai jith janmehi raajaan ||
So why call her bad? From her, kings are born.
9 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev


(੪੭੩-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਭੰਡਹੁ ਹੀ ਭੰਡੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਭੰਡੈ ਬਾਝੁ ਕੋਇ
bhanddahu hee bhandd oopajai bhanddai baajh n koe ||
From woman, woman is born; without woman, there would be no one at all.
9 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev


(੪੭੩-੧੦, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਭੰਡੈ ਬਾਹਰਾ ਏਕੋ ਸਚਾ ਸੋਇ
naanak bhanddai baaharaa eaeko sachaa soe ||
O Nanak, only the True Lord is without a woman.
10 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 473)

We find that some qualities are given to women and if they are as per them, then only that is told to not to call them Bad.

Guru has no gender bias that Guru may say that being a women, a lady has no jurisdiction over her to be criticized by anyone. Evil ladies or the one deviating from devotion are not liked even if they are wives and what about the ladies who are not at wives even ? Are they not committing adulatory ? Should there be no criticism to them ? If not then how will we teach our daughters the correct way ?

Then before we move further we need to have a look on one particular point.

There is a dialogue between Hindu King with his Minster. There afre cases where poet says or with name of Kal, Ram or Shyam does poet says. Else we have comment of minister or some time the characters. There are examples where three demigods and demigoddess are told to be separate from God of Sikhs as per Charitropakhyan 266 and 405.

Else some names are of Hindu demigods which are often wrongly taken by readers as if being address to true God of Sikhs.

Character 332 we find three names given to Brahma ie Brahma, Bidh and Karta.
Character 109(Verse 15) Here we find term Vidhai again refered to Brhama
Character 139 Verse 7 God helps to understand men about lady
Character 338 gives the difference between True God of Sikhs and Brahma and Shiv.
And tells that true God does not falls under women while Brahma does.

So by this understanding the various quotation writer gives from Chartropakhyan is more to do with Hindu demigods belittled by women and in places where we are told not to turst women, then they are specific one as told in these text and that is more to do with office secret or confidancial matters should not be messed up with honey traps. This is good for judges, politicians, diplomats, rulers, army men etc.

Then writer talks about nature of women in the case of dialogue between Panch Chura Apasara( heavenly sex worker as per Hindus) and Narad sage, Uma Samhita 5th Chapter 24, Shiv Purana.

If we read the motive of this dialogue is to generate detachment in the mind of devotee(verse 2 and verse 3 futher states that one who wants Mokhsha or spiritual libration should not have attachment for ladies). Male and female could be detached from worldly things after reading this. We have similar motive in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also but there detachment from family is for Sikh God and not god Shiv

While in the case of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji, we have to deal with concept dimensions which the potential rulers ie Sikhs were to face. So both things have no concern with each other.

So with that we do start now the explanation of quotation given out by writer.

Page 823: story expands in character 9 and 10. In 9th one we find a wife of trader sends her maid to fetch he paramour king. Maid also wants to sleeps with him, yet her refuses. So she gives their info to her trader master. Wife of trader conceals her paramour in crpet and tells her husband to throw dry fruits onto the carpet, when he does this, she says eat Oh King! On asking she tells her husband,the trader, that she calls him her husband as king. He becomes happy and goes away. She saves her paramour and then punishes the maid.(story 9 ends).

Maid becomes vengeful and makes a Sayyad as her paramour. She let him have funds from her mistress, one they she sends her mistress to a place,telling her that her paramour the king waits for her, while their thieves loot her and kill her,bury her. She also tells her paramour, the Sayyad to sleep on the cot of mistress and do something. Then she tells king to come to her mistress on cot. When he comes, he is killed by Sayyad.

Then the verses written as follow
Do not give inner(secret) to ladies, get her secret .Clever ladies pierce the heart of many men..11.. Steal the mind of women but do not give her mind. Make her happy daily by giving her countless finaces..12.. Gandrbas(people of Afghanistan- Pakistan borders) , Yaksha(natives of Lanka before Ravana), Bhujangs( Nagas of Nagaland) people, male birth are in whom ?.demigods/Aryans and anti demigods/non Aryans do not recoganise the secret of ladies..13..1..

Here we are told to be afraid of clever ladies. It is not a offend towards ladies at all.
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Then we go to chartrpakhyan 24. Over here a princess of north is married to king of south, where she gives birth to son, later her husband dies. She finds herself uneasy due to lot of sexual desire in her. She calls a man who she makes as her paramour. He comes but people around prevent him to come in. Then she often sends her maid to bring him in. One day he comes in guise of a lady . Queen tells him to go to the jungle and tell others that he has seen lord Krishna. He after cleaning himself does the same. People start to treat him as their Guru.Queen goes to him and asks him about lord Krishna, he describes lord very well. She takes her to her home as her Guru. She visits her overtly for religious discourse but in reality they lived the life of husband and wife.
Then the lines in question comes.
No one can get the character of clever ladies. Sun ,moon ,demigods, demons all Brahma, Vishnu , King of demigods(Indra)..49..1..

Again here we have a talk of clever ladies above demigods etc.

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This is Charitropakhyan 124, Here we find that king has a wife, he gets attached to another lady and brings her home two. The first wife becomes angry but does not shows and makes the second wife sister of faith. She plans to kill the second wife. She makes a temple of Shiv. Both frequented the temple along side other ladies of the town. One day she cuts off the head of second wife and tells the king that his second wife has offered herself as the sacrifice to lord Shiv. She praises the nation and the family of the second wife. King believes her and cremates the second wife and lives with first wife.
Last verse.
Brahma, Vishnu, demigods, demons all king of night(moon), king of day(sun).
Ved Vysa and Vedas could not get the secret of lady..15..1..

Over here one lady is talked about and told to be above the demigods ,sages and texts of Hindus.

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Charitropakhyan 143. Here queen of north nation makes yogi paramour. Later she also makes another king as paramour. She tells the king paramour to make an underground palace like chamber for me and take as much money you want. He does the same. Thereafter she daily called king and slept with him, there after she called her second paramour the yogi or the ascetic. One day first paramour find her with yogi. She also notices this. She ties the king and burns him. Then she tells her plan to yogi, that he will be served by her husband. She tells him to close the door. And keeps the ashes(of second paramour) in front of him. She tells her husband that she has dreamt of a yogi, who is meditating under ground and wants to come out. The other king(paramour) has also come to bring the yogi out. They go, dug and find the underground mansion. Maids tell the king that another king(paramour) has died after being burnt after yogi opened his eyes.
Queen tells king that she should go first. She goes to yogi and sleeps with him. Later she shows her husband the shadow of yogi. Yogi tells them to bring water from Ganges flowing nearby . When water is brought ,yogi shows milk in his begging vessal and tells that in age of Truth(Satiyuga) this was water of Ganges. Now it comes out that age of evil or Kaliyuga has come. Yogis says that he wants t stay away from the air even of this evil age. Queen says that I will serve you standing on one feet. King also requests same and offer his wife to Yogi.

Fool king became happy could not get the deception.
He deemed him(yogi) as Siddha(with supernatural powers) and gave queen for his services..30..
After killing a king, deceived another king, did love with yogi. Strange character of ladies(here queen with maids) no one could recoganse..31..1..

So here we find the whole story similar to so called Deradars or monks of monasteries. Which does happen even now a days. Such are miracles, Hail Ashutosh and hail Sacha Sauda. Hail their female followers and their talk about miracles.

Page 1079:
Character 186
Here we have one lady of Punjab, from village Dayalpur. She has good lot of money with her. Dacoits come to her and tell her to part with wealth. She shows them some money and tells them to leave her has she has more wealth left by Mahavat Khan and all should be taken by them. Their coming generations will remain wealthy. She takes them to the store of explosives. When they reach there, she shots an arrow with fire. This leads to explosions and all thieves/dacoits are blown off.

So the verses.
At one time thieves were blown . None happened to be alive. (by) this character weak lady killed them. By deception saved her house..10..
With this deception, killing the thieves. Again came to her house. Being Indra, Vishnu, Brahma, Shiv. From the character of lady no one is protected..11..1..

Here good deeds of lady are told and her character is told to be sticking the Hindu Demigods.

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Charitropakhyan 215:

Here we find the story of king of south Sambha Ji(son of Shiva Ji). He always had disturbances from Aurangzeb(Towards Shambha Ji Aurangzeb keeps on looking up with patience in war). He once sees the daughter of poet Kalas and send his maid to bring her in for sleeping together. Message is delivered and girl understands that Sambha Ji will not mind her being forced upon by him, in spite of her being Brahmin. If she does not go then we will use force else if she goes then she looses the faith. She makes a plan and sends back the message that on next day King can meet him at Shiv Temple. There she informs moghuls about the king. King is caught and killed the death of dog. Then moghul commander tries to sleep with her. She hugs him and let him take drugs. Once he looses the sense, she cuts his throat.

..Dohra.. Seeing mogul asleep lying, took out the sword. Went cutting his neck, saving self dhrama/faith..12.. No one can recoganise the chrecteof clever ladies. Being any one Brahma, Vishnu, Shiv etc. all demigods ,demigod’s king..13..1..

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Character 249:

There was king and queen in amrawati (either in AP or Maharashtra, there are two towns of same names).. There also lives a son of money lender. Queens like him lustfully .She calls him home and lets him have food and then asks him to sleep with her. He refuses and tells that she will not leave his wife. After coaxing for some time she makes him under her custody and keeps him in basement. She spreads the rumors that son of money lender is killed by dacoits while on his way for business. She again gets a good make up of her and goes to him and politely asks him to sleep with her. He again refuses and kicks her. She is enraged and tells him, “the husband whose fear you show to me, will only be used to kill you.” She brings the money lenders son out and tells her husband, that he is ghost of dead son of money lender appearing in front of her. King ordered to bury him. She put a strip of explosive on his head and burnt him.

He(son of money lender) cried a lot. Fool king could not find the secret. See what character lady has improved. Killed the son of money lender after making a ghost of him..19..Do not give heart in the hand of young ladies. Always have their mind stolen. Do not believe anyway lady(which is told here). In heart be afraid/careful of character of lady(like one told here)..20..1..

Here as we see and find from previous verse that in singular only a particular lady is talked about and only about her or other like her we are told to be careful.

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Character 312:

Here we deal with a story of young prince who is thought by Bairagees. A wife of farmer wants to sleep with him, but he does not gives her leverage . So she takes a guise of yogi and shows him, the occult and miracle. Tells him that she could rise the dead. He accompanies her without sword. At secluded spot she tells his either to sleep with him(bring his reproductive organ into area surrounded by her reproductive organ to be explicit) or she will cut him into piece . He concedes to her demands.

End of ladies could not be got by any. After creating Brahma again regretted(he was having a sexual desire for his daughter Sarswati). One who did all this world. That after recognizing the secret of lady got defeated..13..1..

The last line may have another meaning “one who did all this world. That only is capable after recognizing the secret of lady.”

Here we are being talked about the specific lady ie the wife of farmer and others like her. If we go by second meaning then Haro has meaning capable like we have term Sirjanhar or capable to create used in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji for God. So by that Brahma can have created one daughter of him while rest is work of Akal, which is different from Brahma as being told here.


(੭੨੪-, ਤਿਲਗ, )
ਤੂ ਕਾਹੇ ਡੋਲਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀਆ ਤੁਧੁ ਰਾਖੈਗਾ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰੁ
thoo kaahae ddolehi praaneeaa thudhh raakhaigaa sirajanehaar ||
Why do you waver, O mortal being? The Creator Lord Himself shall protect you.
6 Tilang Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 724)
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There is story which minister starts . Oh lord I desribe a story .they way it is in my mind.(verse 1) This story is of princess who loves the son of money lender. On knowing this her father, the king puts her into a secluded place where reaching is difficult. She calls one Brave person with power above normal (termed Beer). She makes him bring her love with cot. They sleep together. He father sees the disturbed pattern of bed. Then father tells the subjects to inform before buying the flowers.(he wanted to take help of some occultist who could use flower in that occult). He sees a yogi buying 5 manns(large unit of weight) of flowers. He follows yogi , up to the jungle where no one else is there. He sees yogi brining out a girl from his locks(with hypnotism/magical trick) and sleeps with her. When Yogi is asleep the lady brings another man from locks and sleeps with him.

King finds this and calls the yogi to house. Tells the same at the place of her daughter. Bring food for yogi in three plates. Then yogi asks why does he(king)make a joke as he brings three times the food for a single man. King tells him to repeat the same thing of bringing the lady out and then another man out and let them three eat the food(king reminds him as it happened in past). In verse 19 it is apparent that this yogi/sanyasi is princess only. Here she could not repeat the trick(as in jungle we have locks of roots of banyan/ Amarbai,(parasite creeper) there such trick was possible by mixing the self locks with that of trees). So she becomes afraid. She calls her lover and Beer. Three eat the whole food. Then she realizes that king has seen her character ,how to get out of it. She makes a plan with beer and make her father, the king blind. Then she comes in guise of doctor and cures him and as a price asks her father to let her marry the lover.
That child married husband by this deception.
Who was embedded in the mind of that clever lady.
These(like this lady) ladies have Character un decodable( in capable to find their ends by person like minster). Brahma regretted after making them..25..1..

Last line may also be understood as
Oh endless(God) ! the charectors of these ladies. Oh Creator! After making them, they do regret..25..1..

( we could see the verse 20 in this chapter where we find lady, the princess stunned by the circumstances )

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There is a king and queen with seven more wives of the same king. The queen, who is the main character makes a bairagi(person with renounced life dedicated to god Vishnu ). Her paramour. Once she calls rest of seven wives of her husband on feast and poisoned them. All die. She cribs that by mistake she put poison instead of salt. So in order to repent she should go to Himalayas to decay herself in snow. She goes away with her paramour. All people including king does not know the secret.

Brahma does not know the Character of lady.
Great Shiv also does not recognize anything.
One only gets their thing/talk about them.
The Lord of universe who made the female..11.1..

It is clarified from here that Bidhana is not God but a demigod also known as Brahma. Her we have a talk of one lady deceiving the king.

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Here we have a story of prince who is liked by a daughter of a money lender. She sends her message of love to him but he refuses. Then she sends a Beer(brave person with paranormal powers) , who throws him off the bed. He further makes prince uneasy. He acts like ghost so ghost busters are called. Plans of ghost busters are failed by beer. Then ghost busters request beer that what does he want. Beer tells that he could only follow the saying of one man, and beer tells his where about. Girl takes the guise of man and is brought to the house of prince. The man(girl in reality) gives information that marriage of this prince with a honest wife could relive him. So address of girl(herself) is given. Man comes back to her real appearance Marriage occurs and no “ghost” thence troubles the prince.

The charecters of clever ladies are un decodable( end of them/limit of them is not reachable).By doing (them) Creator makes (other) stunned..18..1..

Or

Oh Endless! Charecters of clever ladies. By doing them Creator is making (others) stunned..18..1..

Here again we are only talked about clever females and not in general.
 
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Well on this page, writer tries to prove that term Bhagouti is meant for demigoddess so Sikhs should change their daily prayer.

We have historic copies of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji, and writers like Rattan Singh Bhangu in his old Panth Prakash gives good detail of our Ardas with start as with Bhagouti. We have term Chandi used for sword again by poet Senapati in his Shri Guru Shobha Chapter 1. He have Bhai Gurdas in Vars also talk of Bhagouti as sword. Var 25 Pauri 6. Bhai Gurdas Second talks of Bhagouti Ji Ki var and praises God.

So since history Sikhs are deeming Bhagouti for Akal’s manifestation of weapons. Akal taking form of weapons.

But now some scholars say that they were wrong and now time has come change this age old folly. Tomorrow same could say to change Shri Guru Granth Sahib as there is name of Ram in Japu Ji Sahib(along side Sita also Ang 8), and by mistake we were praying to the Hindu ram for ages. It is a conspiracy to engulf Sikhism into Hinduism.

While we have a tradition to call our God with names with non Sikhs often refer to their demigods/ demigoddess. Which our so called scholars in spite of knowing refuse to accept.

Coming to verse related Bhagouti in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib

It has been told to be sword in Var Durga Ki verse 53.
Chapter 1 one Shaternam Mala Puran( end of the first chapter tells that it is praise of Bhagouti)
Character 1 of Charitropakhyan.
Character 63 verse 4.

In the mean time we also find in verse 2 of Var Durga Ki, poet someone(God) who has created Durga and by that let destruction of demon be done.

So two reference from Var Durga Ki itself brings out two facts. Bhagouti is swrod. And Durga is told to be creation as a method to kill demons.

Then we find an examples of the traditions of Sikhs, to start the text with praise to sword.

First Chapter of Vachitar Natak.

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ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ
BACHITRA NaatAK
NAME OF THE BANI.

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ਭਾਗ

SECTION I

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ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Ik Oankar Sat(i)gur Prasaadh||
The Lord is One and He can be attained through the grace of the true Guru.

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ਅਥ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਲਿਖਯਾਤੇ
Ath Bachitra Naatak Granth likhyate||
Now the Granth (Book) entitled ‘BACHITTAR NATAK’ is composed.

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ਤ੍ਵ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
Tva Prasaadh||
BY THY GRACE.

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ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਬਾਕ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦
Sroo Mukhbaak Paatshaahoo 10 (Dasvoon)||
From the Holy Mouth of the Tenth King (Guru)

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ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA

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ਨਮਸਕਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਖੜਗ ਕੋ ਕਰੋਂ ਸੁ ਹਿਤੁ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇ
Namaskaar sroo kha?ag ko karon su hit(u) chit(u) laae||
I salute the Glorious SWORD with all my heart’s affection.

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ਪੂਰਨ ਕਰੋਂ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਇਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਮੁਹਿ ਕਰਹੁ ਸਹਾਇ
Pooran karon giranth eh(u) tum muh(i) karoh sahaae||1||
I shall complete this Granth only if Thou Helpest me. I.

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So the way we find Shri Karhad, same is Shri Bhagwati in start of many places in texts.

Lastly we also find as per Chartropakhyan 373 verse 19 where sword is first miracle and deemed as primal lord.


Bhagwati also means sword. Bhag means for separated or broken thing also. Like for ruins we use term broken remains or Bhagnashsesh. So by that Bhagwati means ,one with character to break/destroy. Term Khanda in verse 2 of Var Durga Ki also mean to do with break or destructive force of Akal .

So another issue now comes about last verse where we find written lesson of Durga made with all steps. Who sings will not come to womb/rebirth. Verse 55 ‘s crux. So does it has some thing to do with worship of Durga as claimed by writer. Answer is no.

As we have Vars(Musical poetry composition mostly written to enthuse courage/motivation) in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Asa Rag, Malar Rag, so in the same way we have Rag Durga, and this means that this Var should be sung in Durga Raga.

In Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji , we find Verse named after Camel/Karhale, Accomplished lady/Suchajhi, Careless lady/Kuchagi. Here due to name of characters these verse are named the same but non tells to worship the character but the almighty.

So by reading the lesson named after Durga, one becomes motivated Sikh of Akal Purakh to fight for justice. So there after by sacrificing the life in war or after reading the whole text and having an attitude for sacrificing for other, state of mind will be slowly lead to end to ego. Which will make mind one with Akal, so rebirth will not recur.

So reason given by writer for new Ardas are invalid nor his new proposal is valid.

His proposal to stop using “name (preached by Baba) Nanak Ji is high spirit” which comes is also due to his inability to understand the Sikhism. In Sikhism it is not OK to make verse with(Baba) Nanak (Ji)as poet and add them to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, while Sikhs can make poems praising Baba Nanak Ji’s contribution as giver of Naam and praise of this Naam.

Spiritual height of writer could be understood by last line he gives where he says that Guru Ji makes our wishes fulfilled after listening to Ardas.

While being a person from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji we should have stuck to this.


(੧੪੨੦-੧੧, ਸਲੋਕ ਵਾਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਵਧੀਕ, )
ਵਿਣੁ ਬੋਲਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਕਿਸੁ ਆਗੈ ਕੀਚੈ ਰਦਾਸਿ
vin boliaa sabh kishh jaanadhaa kis aagai keechai aradhaas ||
He knows everything, without being told; unto whom should we offer our prayers?
11 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Amar Das
(Ang 1420)


(੩੯੨-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ
aasaa mehalaa 5 ||
Aasaa, Fifth Mehl:
12 null null


(੩੯੨-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਨਿਕਟਿ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨੈ
aath pehar nikatt kar jaanai ||
Twenty-four hours a day, he knows the Lord to be near at hand;
13 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੩੯੨-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਾ ਕੀਆ ਮੀਠਾ ਮਾਨੈ
prabh kaa keeaa meethaa maanai ||
he surrenders to the Sweet Will of God.
13 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੩੯੨-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਏਕੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੰਤਨ ਆਧਾਰੁ
eaek naam santhan aadhhaar ||
The One Name is the Support of the Saints;
13 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev


(੩੯੨-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, )
ਹੋਇ ਰਹੇ ਸਭ ਕੀ ਪਗ ਛਾਰੁ
hoe rehae sabh kee pag shhaar ||1||
they remain the dust of the feet of all. ||1||
13 Aasaa Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 392)

While here all people in past are deemed fools and at a such low spiritual state that could not understand the so called deception of demigoddess worshipping being done on them.
 
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Here writer by quoting a few verses from Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji says that terminology used is vulgar, it encourages the use of intoxicants and encourages the adultery.

Before we proceed. There is question to the writer.

When a lawyer, a detective, a policeman, an investigator, a journalist, all these guys are told about various crimes or given the cases happened. Does this mean that they are encouraged to commit crime?

Character 45.
Story is of Delhi, like farmers and less literate ladies are exploited by s
Sadhs, so this lady of farmer is sexually abused by a Yogi/hermit, while she went to buy some stuff from the market. Her money is taken away by his disciple. She puts some ashes in her scarf. Then to conceal this tragedy she tells her husband that she has dropped the money, being afraid of on looker, I put ashes in my scarf. Husband deems her thing OK.

It is a story of rape and due to social stigma attached to it, in that time, related to that community, victim does not divulge the truth. Even today if some lady has such problem. She will not come in open else her family may tell that Sadh is like God and lady might be culprit defaming the true god man.

There happened to be a yogi of that place. He bared lady and consumed her..3.. (sexually utilized her).

Page 1011: here we have Chartropakhyan 135.

There we have a princess of Normans. Then there is oculltist judge of Jehanabad.(This seems to be in turkey). This Mullah/judge, tent to act has if he is in contact with ghost, jinni’s etc. He once saw Paris/fairies/ East European or Russian ladies, Talking about princess of Normandy. He sends dev or pagan Indo Aryan(in Iran etc. Indo Aryan people are called Dev or demon, while in India Irano Aryans are called Asurs/demons(in India Dev mean God, while in Iran Ahur was meant as God). To kidnap and bring the princess. Dev does so. Mullah rape the girl, while girl feels unhappy. Daily after raping her, she is returned to her father(here it appears that either Mullahs and rest of his country men are in Europe or princess and her father are in Asia, it is appearing to be at the time of Constantine empire or crusades.

Once lady asks Mullah , to see the lord of heart, ie prince of Jehanabad. Mullah sends her with Dev. She writes a letter and inform prince of her plight. With machine and plans, prince kills dev, later brings in mullah, Arms tied and drowns him into river. Lastly He marries the princess.

Why has writer concealed this whole story ?

That beuty did not have any control coming. Earnt consumption with Mullah. After night was spent and morning occurred. He did(gave) her dispatched there..9.. By this way she was daily called. Happening of rise, she(Norman lady) was sent. As mind please he did game(of love).Used to get filled with various types of consumption(in male-female relationship pertaining to sexual desire)..10..

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There is a story of a Hindu queen of places near Bundelkhand, she makes a person her paramour. Then she gives him a guise of female. Then calls him as her sister. Thereafter with her paramour disguised as sister, she takes her husband to pilgrimage at Ganges. While her husband takes holy dip in river Ganges, she indulges in adultery. This way she befools her husband.

Here we see that a lady in the guise of removal of sins after bathing in river Ganges as per Hindu rituals actually enables her to commit adulatry.

Does disgusing her paramour as lady with hair remover is an attack of Sikh’s keeping hairs ?

Here attack is on pilgrimage etc. done by Hindus, In Sikhs either male not female use hair remover. So female and male body parts are easily distinguished with the density of hairs, which are more on male and less of female. While in Hindus due to usage of hair removal by ladies, there is and will always be a scope of deception by male, who also comes at same level of hair density which is there in female. Such chance does not exists in Sikhism.

She did call him home. Gave him various types of seats..2..There only applied mouth of enemy of hair(this may not be some oil, perhaps missionary know better about such things but could be razor or scissor ,who has mouth in the form of edge). Did make all hairs far away. From male did him female. Went to pilgrimage with paramour and husband..3..


Sticking, she went greedily to him. Earned game believing in mind.(Verse8).

Now another fogery writer does her is that he gives quotations is this fashion.
She did call him home. Gave him various types of seats..2.. There only applied mouth of enemy of hair. Did make all hairs far away..3.. Sticking, she went greedily to him. Earned game believing in mind..4..

As we see that the verse given immediately above are a brilliant act of deception the writer is doing and he is telling us to not to read Charitropakhyan, which make our mind to catch deception easily so that creed of deceptive keep on deceiving us. And people who follow such ideology claim to be intelligent.

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Here we find that one daughter of money lender is caught in compromising position with her lover who is also from the money lender family, by the soldiers of king. The arrest of lover is made and she tells him the trick. While going to king he tells king that his batter half is expert in alchemy . King calls her and she wants eleven months in palace. Both are kept in there. At eleven month she tells that only that person, who has never fallen(into lust) could produce/ sow gold. All subjects, king and queens find themselves unfit. She says that the wind of spring makes all shiver. King becomes happy with her intellect and gets the couple married.

Verse Six has some lesson again.
Describe aroma, love, coughing , etching. Again give proof of murder, charity and drunkardness . What so even some one does, these seven, are not concealed while concealing. It happened to appear diagnosed in all creation..6..

This story seems to be inspired by holy Bibles story where lord Jesus tells that only non sinner should stone the sinful lady. (Gospel of Saint John 8.7)

Judge not that you will be judeged.7.1 Gospel of Saint Mathew, New Testament.
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and , behold , a beam is in thine own eye?

So something biblical is been conveyed over here and God only knows that why some self acclaiming Sikhs do not accept this.


ਔਰਨ ਕਹ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ਤ ਹੈ ਪਸੁ ਤੋਹਿ ੍ਰਬੋਧ ਲਾਗੋ
Auran kah updeshat hai pasu tohe prabhdh na laage||
O Animal ! why do you preach to others, when you are quite ignorant;
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ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦
RaamkaliPaatshaahi10||
RAMKALI OF THE TENTH KING
Line 5
)
Oh friend do consumption with me. Do not be afraid , a little, of this tension..14..Dohara.. holding paramour had him override herself. With him happened to believe in indulgence, got pleasure in repetitive going greedy..15..

(this story is to forgive the people who may go astray and do something they should have done before marriage and if they are caught, better is to let them marry each other).

What does S. Dalbeer Singh Ji think of it ?
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Either I cut you in seven/hindered parts.. Else you give in your male reproductive organ (to) my female reproductive organ..

Here a strong, rural lady threatens a child, to corporate with her while she rapes him.

Story is of prince who is thought by Rama’s worshipper detached hermits called Bairagis. One wife of farmer wants to seduce him. He does not pay heeds. She takes an attire of Jogi/ Tantric yoga expert(in this case). She shows him a good lot of miracles. Then she tells him, she could let dead rise. He goes with her in secluded place without properly armed. There she threatens to kill him, if he does not allows her to rape him. He concedes to her demand. This way lord of Bairagis was deceived.

We could see the three morals.

  • Bairagis are not good teachers.
  • One must not believe in Tantirc Miracles
  • Children must not accompany so called sages etc. unguarded into secluded places.

There have been many such case involving miraculous god men. When male are subjected to such thing. What is going to happen to female?

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Here we have a story of princess, who marries a person. When she finds him becoming unfit to satisfy her desire, she makes a person her paramour. Once her husband finds her with paramour. She kills him with noose. Then she conceals her paramour in a cabin. She cries and tells her family that her husband has died. She will pray to lord Shiva, and this is as in accordance with Vedas. They all should wait for her outside in open. She takes dead body into the cabin, where paramour was hidden. She indulges in immoral act with paramour while the noises being heard in this process are taken for Shiva worshipping ritual by people waiting outside. She buries the body of dead husband. Comes out with her paramour and tells all that Shiva has not only revived her husband but has made him better and younger by his boom and this is paramour is result of that. She befooled all and stayed with her paramour.

Anyone who reads this story will understand that stories related to Shiva’s miracle are just the way of deception. No worshipper of Shiva would writer like this. There is a story of adultery and eloping starting from the the temple of demigoddess in another Character ie 354.

So coming to verse quoted.

That young lady banged(spent) the whole night.
Spent /used by various types of company.
Young lady was capable to do of various seats/ postures.
Oral contacts etc., partly blows endless..13..

Bajaye or banged here is meant for , like in Hindi goes with time, as medium of spending it we have bang of clock.
As racial Hindus make fun of us as Barahan Baj Gaye, bang of 12 o clock, while we say 2.5 or Dhai Baj Gaye.( we are having all 12 by they are half less even then their inauspicious three).

This is in a very bad taste when such a vulgar interpretation is done by some where women is interpreted as if played like watch or musical instrument.

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Here is a story of princess, having a lover ,who is son of a money lender. Once in her place they commit an immoral act. Her fathers comes in. she tells him, that in her house, due to the feast of Brahmin, there is a line drawn. So if you want to enter, you should take bath first. As king father, takes a dip into swimming /bathing pool. She let her lover run away. By this way she befools her father.

Simple moral over here is that people who befool others on the pretext of purity often themselves are impure in their deeds. In Sikhs we could see many Sadh or often claiming to be Bebecki Nihungs etc are not at all pure in deeds and for vested interests make other people follow the ritual of purity.



(੧੧੫੧-੧੩, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੋਈ ਕੁਚੀਲੁ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਨੈ
soee kucheel kudharath nehee jaanai ||
One who does not know the Lord's Creative Power is polluted.
13 Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੫੧-੧੪, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਲੀਪਿਐ ਥਾਇ ਸੁਚਿ ਹਰਿ ਮਾਨੈ
leepiai thhaae n such har maanai ||
Ritualistically plastering one's kitchen square does not make it pure in the Eyes of the Lord.
14 Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੫੧-੧੪, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਅੰਤਰੁ ਮੈਲਾ ਬਾਹਰੁ ਨਿਤ ਧੋਵੈ
anthar mailaa baahar nith dhhovai ||
If a person is polluted within, he may wash himself everyday on the outside,
14 Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੧੫੧-੧੪, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਾਚੀ ਦਰਗਹਿ ਅਪਨੀ ਪਤਿ ਖੋਵੈ
saachee dharagehi apanee path khovai ||2||
but in the Court of the True Lord, he forfeits his honor. ||2||
(Ang 1151)

(੪੭੨-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਦੇ ਕੈ ਚਉਕ ਕਢੀ ਕਾਰ
dhae kai choukaa kadtee kaar ||
They draw lines around them, plastering the ground with cow-dung.
2 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev


(੪੭੨-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਉਪਰਿ ਆਇ ਬੈਠੇ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ
oupar aae baithae koorriaar ||
The false come and sit within them.
2 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 472)

There are many such examples on this issue from our Guru Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

But writer hardly knows Shri Guru Granth Sahib either like all the guys who are bashers of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib. There is no struggle for Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, struggle is to protect the correct understanding of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, With in correct or partial quoting of Gurbani, The wrong meaning of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are made and then Sikh becomes non Sikh to follow them like communist with knowledge of science, at the most till the level of matriculation. Then same guys oppose Shri Dasham Granth Sahib.

When basic understanding of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not clear then how could they understand.

So coming to quotes.

They let the poppy, cannabis, opium be borught.. Sitting on one cot, they let it over take (their mind)..7.. Drunkard/intoxicated when happened to be inked/dyed/colored/painted/overcome with pleasured. They both met and did play then only. Body took various types of seat. Oral contact and crasping this how, that how..8..

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There is king from desert of Rajasthan . He tells his wife that is it possible for a lady to sleep with paramour, and in that time let her husband listen to beat of drum.

Days spent, she remembered this thing. She started to bring water for her husband. Husband thought her to be Pativrata(dedicated to husband, as in desert water is scares ,s o bringing the water by wife could protect king from poisoning and impurity which servants could induce). Once she awakes her husband and tells her to listen to sound emerging while she fetches the water. First sound will be of putting bucket in water while the next sound of drum will be brining it out. She goes to her paramour. When they start immoral act. She makes drum sound. At end of their act again strong sound is made. King thinks that she is fetching water.

There are 4 level of interpreting this.
1st is that while we have to conceal some sound, which will occur due to the covert action. Better is to subdue it with some common lauder sound, which will not let other note the covert act. In film border, we find artillery fire is done before the actual attacks by tank, so that enemy do not listen to the noise of tanks.

2. Kings and Queens are immoral and think very immorally , rulers could be easily befooled.

3rd as per Tantric terminlogy. We find mammon as if under our control but the fact is that it befools us. While our sprit is detached from God. We find that Mammon acts as we wish her, while she/she befools us.

4th as per Sufi’s Prem Marg or path of love definition. Tenth Master could have used this also.
When devotee thinks that God is under his/her command. Start to think something off the track in over confidence. God/Allah shows true self. Allah may appear more dedicated to the devotee. But in fact lord of takers/Lahori Rai/vices/Iblis(as Iblis did not bow to Adam so Allah did not like this act, which other angels did, Yet being worshipper of Allah for long, Allah gave capability to Iblis, to take over the heart of the sons of Adam and misguide them) /Satan is called in for self pleasure by God. While devotee thinks that Allah is serving him/her. First push of vice makes him Allah actually obeying him. Such sound of triumph become very positive while person is totally separated from Allah. We have examples of Job(Hazrat Ayub Ahale Salla), Soleman(Hazrat Suleman Ahle Sala) among many such examples in Semitic texts when a person is detached from God due to over confidence in self.

When first assistance stuck push. Queen took drum and bang it.When his spirit was taken out of God(‘s influence) .Mammon in trinity gave deep explosive sound of drum(Triumph)..10..

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Character 404:

Few things at last writer puts. Repetition of 403 as 402 from the past topic of who is the actual writer. So reader could go back there to understand the deeper meanings of quotes.

But quotes are again dealt in here.
Compared poppy , cannabis, opium(with intoxication of spirituality). Made self seated under him(under his feet).Lord of love/kiss/God took hug. Gave his sprit into God..24..When lord gave sprit into God. In the hear of boat/salvation doing attribute/librator , interest cropped up. With continuous greed went below the seat/in refuge. Did happen to kiss, lords(kissing lord’s feet or kissing refuge of lord as went below the seat , )..25.. (God) held continuously and hugged with neck/bosom. Saddle (of horse of mid) was touched by iron spear.(mind was controlled). To the ground less( group) , Groundless duality was touched/joined. Dualities(making ) powder(of spritulity) was mixed with powder/was powdered..26..

We have usage of Yamak Alankar over here, where a word is repeated in line with both same words have differntmeainging

As per Mahankosh by Nabha Sahib we have this example from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji regarding the Yamak.


(੯੮-, ਮਾਝ, )
ਭਾਤਿ ਭਾਤਿ ਬਨ ਬਨ ਅਵਗਾਹੇ
bhaath bhaath ban ban avagaahae ||
I travelled through all sorts of woods and forests.
2 Maajh Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 98)

People must read the whole text and as per interpretation done by Dr. Rattan Singh Jaggi.

Well there are various interpretations done of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, like from Principal Teja Singh, Bhai Veer Singh, Dr. Sahib Singh, Fareedkoti Teeka, Bhai Harbans Singh along others. Likewise other than Dr Jaggi, Dr Jodh Singh, Bhai Randheer Singh, Pandit Narayan Singh Gyani has done interpretation of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji. More are still doing. How could the interpretation of Dr. Jaggi be fool proof , while people of the creed of the writer themselves say that there is scope of improvement in the interpretation of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, by Dr. Sahib Singh Ji(Bhai HarmanJeet Singh from Canada also repeated this thing at sikhphilosophy.net forum, first he asked quotation from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as per Dr Sahib Singh Ji, later on producing that, he said that Dr. Sahib Singh Ji did interpretation very fast, so may not be up to the mark).

Next point is writer quoting some tantirc spell which he has quoted before also. So writer as usual has become repetitive. Anyway there Tantric is parsing mother goddess to bring in union of sprit(ling) with God(Bhag).(read reply to it in article dealing with, “ who is the actual writer ?”)

Then he says that with coomon mind a person can understand that this work could not be of Guru and so Chaupayee Sahib also could not be the work of Guru.

Well Guru’s mind is above normal, so how could a person with common mind understand this till Akal does not do mercy on that person. Sikh ideology is uncommon. If some one still wants to maintain common mind while staying in Sikhism and commenting on work of Tenth Master for them common man’s communism is the real faith.

Chaupayee Sahib, is and will remain the essential part of Sikhism. There we are told only one Guru is incarnated from beginning to end(I am omega and the Alfa, the beginning and end, which is, which was and which is to come. Holy bible ,New Testament, more to do with revelations)). By spreading creator , we have time of subject having bodies of endless(God). When sucking back is done. In you all ,having lies are united.(this the way universe expand and contract either with big bang or sturdy state).

Now a few examples from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.


(੯੫੨-੧੯, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਵਾਰ-, )
ਸੁਪਨੈ ਬਿੰਦੁ ਦੇਈ ਝਰਣਾ
supanai bindh n dhaeee jharanaa ||
He does not waste his energy in wet dreams.
19 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 952)

(੧੧੬੦-, ਭੈਰਉ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਸੁਪਨੈ ਬਿੰਦੁ ਦੇਈ ਝਰਨਾ
supanai bindh n dhaeee jharanaa ||
He does not lose his semen, even in his dreams;
2 Bhaira-o Saint Kabir
(Ang 1160)

The above two verse explicitly talk of seminal emission during dreams. This thing can not be prevented till a person who is potent either masturbate or have sex.

In dreams often while having a sex in dream people emit their semen. As per Allopathy is something healthy, so does Arabic and Greek medical science say. While in Ayurvedas, it is not OK. With yoga one can prevent involuntary emission in night but then semen passes out via urine, when a person passes the stool.

Why does such thing Gurubani talks ? and can a person discuss this thing in front of his daughter or in public domain ? answer is yes but that person has to be objective and free of lust.

(੯੩-੧੦, ਸ੍ਰੀਰਾਗੁ, ਬੇਣੀ ਜੀਉ)
ਅਵਰ ਮਰਤ ਮਾਇਆ ਮਨੁ ਤੋਲੇ ਤਉ ਭਗ ਮੁਖਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਵਿਗੋਇਆ
avar marath maaeiaa man tholae tho bhag mukh janam vigoeiaa ||3||
When others die, you measure your own wealth in your mind; you waste your life in the pleasures of the mouth and sexual organs. ||3||
10 Sriraag Saint Baini
(Ang 93)
Term above used is Bhag Mukh(i) ie mouth towards female organ. That is also explicitly told. Such thing is called oral sex in present day languages. Can a person do explanation of it in public ?

Often people change the true meaning and talk about it.
(੬੨੯-, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਜਿਉ ਕਾਮੀ ਕਾਮਿ ਲੁਭਾਵੈ
jio kaamee kaam lubhaavai ||
Just as the lustful man is enticed by lust,
5 Sorith Guru Arjan Dev


(੬੨੯-, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਤਿਉ ਹਰਿ ਦਾਸ ਹਰਿ ਜਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ
thio har dhaas har jas bhaavai ||2||
so is the Lord's slave pleased with the Lord's Praise. ||2||
6 Sorith Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 629)

Why should Guru compare such an evil thing to get inspire for devotion ? Was there not any other better option ? How did Guru know about it ?

(੬੭੨-, ਧਨਾਸਰੀ, )
ਕਾਮਵੰਤ ਕਾਮੀ ਬਹੁ ਨਾਰੀ ਪਰ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਜੋਹ ਚੂਕੈ
kaamavanth kaamee bahu naaree par grih joh n chookai ||
The lustful, lecherous man desires many women, and he never stops peeking into the homes of others.
6 Dhanaasree Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 672)

Here an act of lustful man is described. Can just by giving one line describing some thing as in here and without giving the context, is it possible for us to say that Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji encourage lust ?
(੯੯੫-, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਬੇਸੁਆ ਰਵਤ ਅਜਾਮਲੁ ਉਧਰਿਓ ਮੁਖਿ ਬੋਲੈ ਨਾਰਾਇਣੁ ਨਰਹਰੇ
baesuaa ravath ajaamal oudhhariou mukh bolai naaraaein nareharae ||
Ajaamal, who had sex with prostitites, was saved, by chanting the Name of the Lord.
8 Maaroo Guru Ram Das
(Ang 995)


(੧੧੯੨-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, )
ਅਜਾਮਲੁ ਉਧਰਿਆ ਕਹਿ ਏਕ ਬਾਰ
ajaamal oudhhariaa kehi eaek baar ||
Ajaamal uttered the Lord's Name once, and was saved.
3 Basant Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1192)
Can by describing the act of having sex with prostitues by Ajamil over here be used to prove that it s OK to do such thing ? And can by just once calling name of God, delivers as told by Gurbani to the sinner for long time ? should this be practiced ?
(੬੧੬-, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਦੇਇ ਕਿਵਾੜ ਅਨਿਕ ਪੜਦੇ ਮਹਿ ਪਰ ਦਾਰਾ ਸੰਗਿ ਫਾਕੈ
dhaee kivaarr anik parradhae mehi par dhaaraa sang faakai ||
Behind closed doors, hidden by many screens, the man takes his pleasure with another man's wife.
7 Sorith Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 616)

Just by giving these lines and not the whole verse in correct prospect as writer has done above with the case of Charitropakhyan , is it OK that while Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji describe the immoral act so they also encourage the same also ?
(੬੩੨-੧੭, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਸੋਰਠਿ ਮਹਲਾ
sorath mehalaa 9 ||
Sorat'h, Ninth Mehl:
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(੬੩੨-੧੭, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਮਾਈ ਮਨੁ ਮੇਰੋ ਬਸਿ ਨਾਹਿ
maaee man maero bas naahi ||
O mother, my mind is out of control.
17 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur


(੬੩੨-੧੭, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਨਿਸ ਬਾਸੁਰ ਬਿਖਿਅਨ ਕਉ ਧਾਵਤ ਕਿਹਿ ਬਿਧਿ ਰੋਕਉ ਤਾਹਿ ਰਹਾਉ
nis baasur bikhian ko dhhaavath kihi bidhh roko thaahi ||1|| rehaao ||
Night and day, it runs after sin and corruption. How can I restrain it? ||1||Pause||
17 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur


(੬੩੨-੧੮, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਕੇ ਮਤ ਸੁਨਿ ਨਿਮਖ ਹੀਏ ਬਸਾਵੈ
baedh puraan simrith kae math sun nimakh n heeeae basaavai ||
He listens to the teachings of the Vedas, the Puraanas and the Simritees, but he does not enshrine them in his heart, even for an instant.
18 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur


(੬੩੨-੧੮, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਪਰ ਧਨ ਪਰ ਦਾਰਾ ਸਿਉ ਰਚਿਓ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਰਾਵੈ
par dhhan par dhaaraa sio rachiou birathhaa janam siraavai ||1||
Engrossed in the wealth and women of others, his life passes away uselessly. ||1||
18 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur


(੬੩੨-੧੯, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਮਦਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਕੈ ਭਇਓ ਬਾਵਰੋ ਸੂਝਤ ਨਹ ਕਛੁ ਗਿਆਨਾ
madh maaeiaa kai bhaeiou baavaro soojhath neh kashh giaanaa ||
He has gone insane with the wine of Maya, and does not understand even a bit of spiritual wisdom.
19 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur


(੬੩੨-੧੯, ਸੋਰਠਿ, )
ਘਟ ਹੀ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਬਸਤ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਮਰਮੁ ਜਾਨਾ
ghatt hee bheethar basath niranjan thaa ko maram n jaanaa ||2||
Deep within his heart, the Immaculate Lord dwells, but he does not know this secret. ||2||
19 Sorith Guru Teg Bahadur
(Ang 632)
Was it ever possible that mind of Ninth Master went out of control ? Did he(his mind) actually had any liking towards the others wife ?
(੪੭੧-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )

ma 1 ||
First Mehl:
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(੪੭੧-, ਵਾਰ-ਆਸਾ, )
ਤਗੁ ਇੰਦ੍ਰੀ ਤਗੁ ਨਾਰੀ
thag n eindhree thag n naaree ||
There is no sacred thread for the sexual organ, and no thread for woman.
9 Aasaa Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 471)
Here why we have visible use of male organ and lady given so closely. Term here is Indri so from Sanskrit(cultured) tongue of Aryan(civilized), had it been from Dravidian as in case of Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, people like writer with pagan influence would have told. This could not be the Work of Guru. As in Delhi, Brahmins and Khatris once refused to agree that Guru had told to stop shaving head on death(Bhadan Sanskar). So it is in tradition of these upper caste to say that Guru could not say that or this. Shame on them.
 
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Here we find Brahmanical text being refered to Puranas and Tanrtic books. While the fact is that Puranas were made by Ved Vysa(himself born from boat women and sage, with out wedding) so that Sudras also get spiritual knowledge as Vedas were out of bound for them. Vedas have Aryan influence while Purans are nearer to Dravidians.

The way an Aryan chauvinist Dayananda opposed Puranas while making a yard stick of Vedas, as we see in Satyarth Prakash, same way of Nayay shastra (justification by logic) of Hindus ie 5th philosophy is used by so called Sikhs ,who are against Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, they use the yardstick of false interpretation of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and then falsely prove Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, against them.

In Puranas , we find a character called Soot Ji(could be seen in Bhavishaya Purana also), this one even is below than Sudra and out side four varnas(Soot could never be twice born, as he/she is born out of Pratilon marriage, where lower caste male, marries upper caste female(Chapter 10 Manu Samriti).

Tanric going further ahead, do not have faith in caste. They have to eat in one vessal, the wine and meat,sitting in circle called Bhairavi Chakra, while coming into faith, and does giving away their caste.

Shiv as Pasupati was found from remains of Moahjudaros Dravidian Civilisation. There we find phallus also. Then we find an idol of mother goddess as mother earth with tree coming out of her womb. This mother earth later became pindi of Durga and at present time Indian mother goddess called Bharat Mata.
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So none text here is Brahmin and then writer talks about Hindi translation. Is he sure that it is going to be OK?

  • Shri Markandey Purana. Here writer says that it talks about incarnation of demigoddess. But he forgets that it is only a small part of this Purana. Only 13 chapters out of 134 chapters only talk of demigoddess, so less then 10%. Talking about rest is out of context.
In Shri Dasham Granth Sahib, we find a few unique things while we talk of Three composition giving information about demigoddess.

Only some examples are given in here.


ਜਿਹ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਮੈ ਲਖੇ ਤਮਾਸਾ ਚਾਹਤ ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਕੀਯੋ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਾ
Jih jih bidh mai lakhe tamaasaa|| Chaahat tin ko kooo prakaasaa||
The kinds of spectacles that I have seen, I want to enlighten (the world) about them.

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ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਨਮ ਪੂਰਬਲੇ ਹੇਰੇ ਕਹਿਹੋ ਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਰਾਕ੍ਰਮ ਤੇਰੇ
Jo jo janam poorbale bere|| Kahiho su Prabh(u) praakram tere||4||
All the past lives that have peeped into, I shall speak about them with Thy Power.4.

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ਜਬ ਮਨਸਾ ਮਨ ਮਯਾ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਮਨੂਆ ਕਹ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਸੁਧਾਰੀ
Jab mansaa man mayaa bichaaroo|| Gur manooaa kah kahiyo sudhaaroo||
When I (as mind) reflected on the kindness of the discriminating intellect, the Guru0mind uttered his refined statement.

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ਜੇ ਜੇ ਚਰਿਤ ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਨਹੇ ਤੇ ਤੇ ਅਬ ਚਹੀਅਤ ਹੈ ਕਹੇ
Je je charit puraatan lahe|| Te te ab chahooat hai kahe||6||
All the wonderful things that were comprehended by the ancient sages, I want to speak about all of them.6.

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ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਕਰਣਾ ਤਬ ਭਰੇ ਸੇਵਕ ਜਾਨ ਦਯਾ ਰਸ ਢਰੇ
Sarab kaal karnaa tab bhare|| Sevak jaan dayaa ras ?hare||
Then my Lord, Destroyer of all, was filled with kindness and considering me as His servant, He was gracefully pleased.

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ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਨਮ ਪੂਰਬਲੋ ਭਯੋ ਸੋ ਸੋ ਸਭ ਸਿਮਰਣ ਕਰ ਦਯੋ
Jo jo janam poorbalo bhayo|| So so sabh simran kar dayo||7||
The births of all the incarnations in the previous ages, He hath caused me to remember all of them.7.

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ਜਿਹ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਜਨਮਨ ਸੁਧਿ ਆਈ ਤਿਮ ਤਿਮ ਕਹੇ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਬਨਾਈ
Jih jih bidh janman sudh(i0 aaoo|| Tim tim kahe giranth bannoo||
The way in which I came to know about the births of incarnations, in the same manner, I have rendered them in books.

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ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਲਹਾ ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਦੇਬਿ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਕੋ ਕਹਾ ੧੦
Prathme satijug jih bidh(i) lahaa|| Prathme deb(i) charitra ko kahaa||10||
The way, in which I came to know about Satyuga, I have narrated it in the first poem of the miraculous feats of the goddess.10.

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ਪਹਿਲੇ ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਬਨਾਯੋ ਨਖ ਸਿਖ ਤੇ ਕ੍ਰਮ ਭਾਖ ਸੁਨਾਯੋ
Pahile Chan?oo charitra banaayo|| Nakh sikh te kram bhaakh sunaayo||
The miraculous feats of goddess Chandi have been composed earlier, I have compsed (the same) in strict order from top to toe.

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ਛੋਰ ਕਥਾ ਤਬ ਪ੍ਰਥਮ ਸੁਨਾਈ ਅਬ ਚਾਹਤ ਫਿਰਿ ਕਰੋਂ ਬਡਾਈ ੧੧
Chhor kathaa tab pratham sunaaoo|| Ab chaahat phir(i) karon ba?aaoo||11||
In the beginning I composed a comprehensive discourse, but now I want again to compose an Eulogy.11.

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ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੇ ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲ ਕੀ ਬੇਨਤੀ ਬਰਨਨੰ ਨਾਮ ਚੌਦਸਮੋ ਧਿਆਇ ਸਮਾਪਤ ਮਸਤੁ ਸੁਭ ਮਸਤੁ ੧੪ਅਫਜੂ੪੭੧
It(i) Sroo Bachitra Naatak granthe sarab kaal koo bentoo barnanang naam chaudasmo dhiaae samaapat mast(u) subh mast(u)||14||Afjoo||471||
End of Fourteenth Chapter of BACHITTAR NATAK entitled ‘Description of the Supplication to the Lord, Destroyer of All’.14.471.

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(Chapter 14)

Here poet tells about previous life/birth being understood and told)



ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ

NAME OF THE BANI.

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ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ
Ik Oankaar Waheguroo joo koo Fateh||
The Lord is one and the Victory is of the Lord.

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ਅਥ ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਉਕਤਿ ਬਿਲਾਸ
Ath Chan?oo charitra Ukat(i) Bilaas||
New begin the extraordinary feats from the Life of Chandi:

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ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ
Swaiyaa||
SWAYYA

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ਆਦਿ ਅਪਾਰ ਅਲੇਖ ਅਨੰਤ ਅਕਾਲ ਅਭੇਖ ਅਲੱਖ ਅਨਾਸਾ
aadh apaar alekh anant akaal abhekh alakkh anaasaa||
The Lord is Primal, Infinite, Account less, Boundless, Deathless, Garbless, Incomprehensible and Eternal.

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ਕੈ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤ ਦਏ ਸ੍ਰੁਤਿ ਚਾਰ ਰਜੋ ਤਮ ਸੱਤ ਤਿਹੂ ਪੁਰ ਬਾਸਾ
Kai Siv sakat dae srut(i) chaar rajo tam satt tihoo pur baasaa||
He created Shiva-Shakti, forur Vedas and three modes of maya and Pervades in three worlds.

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ਦਿਉਸ ਨਿਸਾ ਸਸਿ ਸੂਰ ਕੈ ਦੀਪ ਸੁ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਰਚੀ ਪੰਚ ਤੱਤ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਾ
Dius nisaa sas(i) soor kai doop su sristtee rachoo panch tatt prakaasaa||
He created day and night, the lamps of sun and moon and the whole world with five elements.

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ਬੈਰ ਬਢਾਇ ਲਰਾਇ ਸੁਰਾਸੁਰ ਆਪਹਿ ਦੇਖਤ ਬੈਠ ਤਮਾਸਾ
Bir ba?haae laraae suraasur aapah(i) dekhat baith tamaasaa||1||
He extended enmity and fight between the gods and demons and Himself seated (on His Throne) scans it.1.


ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA

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ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਸਿੰਧ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਜੋ ਕਛੁ ਮੋ ਪਰਿ ਹੋਇ
Kripaa sindh tumroo kripaa jo kachh(u) mo par(i) hoe||
O Ocean of Mercy, if Thy Grace is bestowed upon me:

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ਰਚੋ ਚੰਡਕਾ ਕੀ ਕਥਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਭ ਸਭ ਹੋਇ
Racho chan?akaa koo kathaa baanoo subh sabhh hoe||2||
I may compose the story of Chandika and my poetry be all good.2.

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(Chandi Charitar 1.1)

ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰਨ ਕੇ ਨਮਿਤਕਾਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਇਹ ਲੀਨ
Dait sanghaaran ke namit kaal janam(u) eh leen||
It seemed that Death itself had taken the birth to destroy the demons.
Line 5
(Verse 25 Chandi Charitar 1.2)

Read God for Kal here instead of death.
ਦੇਤ ਹੈ ਅਸੀਸ ਦਿਜ ਰਾਜ ਰਿਖ ਬਾਰਿ ਬਾਰਿ ਤਹਾ ਹੀ ਪੜਿਓ ਹੈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਕਉਚ ਹੂੰ ਕੋ ਜਾਪ ਹੈ
Det hai asoos dij raaj rikh baar(i) baar(i) tahaa hoo pa?io hai Brahm kauch hoon ko jaap hai||
“All the sages, spiritual as well as royal bless Thee again and again, they have revited there the mantra called ‘Brahm-Kavach’ (the spiritual coat of mail).”
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(Verse 227 Chandi Charitar 1.last)


ਉਸਤਤ ਸਭਹੂੰ ਕਰੀ ਅਪਾਰਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਕਵਚ ਕੋ ਜਾਪ ਉਚਾਰਾ
Ustat sabh-hoon karoo apaaraa|| Brahm kavach ko jaap uchaaraa||
All of them extremely eulogized the goddess and repeated the mantra known as “Brahm-Kavach”.
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(Verse 2..221 Chandi Charitar 2.7)
There is praise of demigoddess by demigod on chapter 88, Verse 2-35 Markandey Purana. Where does Term Brahm Kavach comes ?

Kindly see the terminology of the verse 31..251.. and 32.252 in chapter 7 Chandi Chariter 2). Does there terms come in the same place as mentioned above in Markandey Purnana ?

Does this term comes in Markandey Purana, where demigods ,by giving their power make demigoddess. verse 8-31 chapter 79, Markandey Purana.

ਖੰਡਾ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੈ ਸਾਜ ਕੈ ਜਿਨ ਸਭ ਸੈਸਾਰੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ
Khan?aa prithmai saaj kai jin sabh saisaar(u) upaaiaa||
At first the Lord created the double-edged sword and then He created the whole world.

Page 298, Line 4
And

ਤੈ ਹੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੈ ਦੈਤਾ ਦਾ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਾਇਆ
Tai hoo Durgaa saaj(i) kai daigaa daa naas(u) karaaiaa||
O Lord! By creating Durga, Thou hast caused the destruction of demons.

Page 298, Line 8

(Verse 2 Var Durga Ki)

There are a few examples proving the diferance between Sikh text and Holy Purnas for Hindus.

Then writer taking Mr Jaggi’s suggestion is repeated, about which ideas are given in chapter dealing with “terminology” while writer repeating the removal of Ardas could be read in chapter “removal of Ardas”.

Then writer talks of page 809. Character 1. And says that there is a similarity with some part of Devi Mahmatyam of Markandey Purana. Well what similarity he finds with the first verse itself ?

You only sharp edge of sword ,you only with (ability) to cut. You only arrow, saber, knife, dagger. Syrian(Sword), Armenian( Sword) , North African(Sword) you only. Where I see you stay there..1..
So writer’s assertion that this is ditto translation of said Purana is false and so is false its being in contradiction to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

  • Shrimad Bhagvat Puran

(੧੨੯੩-੧੦, ਮਲਾਰ, ਭਗਤਰਵਿਦਾਸਜੀ)
ਜਾ ਕੈ ਭਾਗਵਤ ਲੇਖੀਐ ਅਵਰੁ ਨਹੀ ਪੇਖੀਐ ਤਾਸ ਕੀ ਜਾਤਿ ਆਛੋਪ ਛੀਪਾ
jaa kai bhaagavath laekheeai avar nehee paekheeai thaas kee jaath aashhop shheepaa ||
He who writes the Praises of the Lord God, and sees nothing else at all, is a low-class, untouchable fabric-dyer by trade.
9 Malaar Saint Ravidas


(੧੨੯੩-੧੧, ਮਲਾਰ, ਭਗਤਰਵਿਦਾਸਜੀ)
ਬਿਆਸ ਮਹਿ ਲੇਖੀਐ ਸਨਕ ਮਹਿ ਪੇਖੀਐ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਨਾਮਨਾ ਸਪਤ ਦੀਪਾ
biaas mehi laekheeai sanak mehi paekheeai naam kee naamanaa sapath dheepaa ||1||
The Glory of the Name is seen in the writings of Vyaas and Sanak, throughout the seven continents. ||1||
10 Malaar Saint Ravidas
(Ang 1293)

Here we find term Bhagvat used for God. Else it may mean, who has neither written nor read Bhagvat.

Again of the same page Bhagvat is talked about.
(੧੨੯੩-, ਮਲਾਰ, ਭਗਤਰਵਿਦਾਸਜੀ)
ਤਰ ਤਾਰਿ ਅਪਵਿਤ੍ਰ ਕਰਿ ਮਾਨੀਐ ਰੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਕਾਗਰਾ ਕਰਤ ਬੀਚਾਰੰ
thar thaar apavithr kar maaneeai rae jaisae kaagaraa karath beechaaran ||
The palmyra palm tree is considered impure, and so its leaves are considered impure as well.
5 Malaar Saint Ravidas


(੧੨੯੩-, ਮਲਾਰ, ਭਗਤਰਵਿਦਾਸਜੀ)
ਭਗਤਿ ਭਾਗਉਤ ਲਿਖੀਐ ਤਿਹ ਊਪਰੇ ਪੂਜੀਐ ਕਰਿ ਨਮਸਕਾਰੰ
bhagath bhaagouth likheeai thih ooparae poojeeai kar namasakaaran ||2||
But if devotional prayers are written on paper made from its leaves, then people bow in reverence and worship before it. ||2||
5 Malaar Saint Ravidas
(Ang 1293)
As per Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, who created Purana ?


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਚਉਥਿ ਉਪਾਏ ਚਾਰੇ ਬੇਦਾ
chouthh oupaaeae chaarae baedhaa ||
The Fourth Day: He created the four Vedas,
8 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਖਾਣੀ ਚਾਰੇ ਬਾਣੀ ਭੇਦਾ
khaanee chaarae baanee bhaedhaa ||
the four sources of creation, and distinct forms of speech.
8 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਅਸਟ ਦਸਾ ਖਟੁ ਤੀਨਿ ਉਪਾਏ
asatt dhasaa khatt theen oupaaeae ||
He created the eighteen Puraanas, the six Shaastras and the three qualities.
8 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਸੋ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਪਿ ਬੁਝਾਏ
so boojhai jis aap bujhaaeae ||
He alone understands, whom the Lord causes to understand.
9 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਤੀਨਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਚਉਥੈ ਵਾਸਾ
theen samaavai chouthhai vaasaa ||
One who overcomes the three qualities, dwells in the fourth state.
9 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev


(੮੩੯-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਪ੍ਰਣਵਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਮ ਤਾ ਕੇ ਦਾਸਾ
pranavath naanak ham thaa kae dhaasaa ||5||
Prays Nanak, I am his slave. ||5||
9 Bilaaval Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 839)

What does 18 Puranas speak ?
(੮੮੬-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਦਸ ਅਸਟੀ ਮਿਲਿ ਏਕੋ ਕਹਿਆ
dhas asattee mil eaeko kehiaa ||
The eighteen Puraanas all speak of the One God.
4 Raamkalee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 886)

What do we get after consulting 18 Puranas ?

(Ang 998)

Should we se through Puranas or not ?


(੨੯੪-, ਗਉੜੀਸੁਖਮਨੀ, )
ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਦੇਖੁ
baedh puraan sinmrith mehi dhaekh ||
See Him in the Vedas, the Puraanas and the Simritees.
2 Gaurhee Sukhmanee Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 294)

What does Shri Dasham Granth Sahib say of Puranas ?

ਤੀਰਥ ਨ੍ਹਾਨ ਦਇਆ ਦਮ ਦਾਨ ਸੁ ਸੰਜਮ ਨੇਮ ਅਨੇਕ ਬਿਸੇਖੈ
toorath nhaan daiaa dam daan su sanjam nem anek bisekhai||
Taking bath at holy places, exercising mercy, controlling passions, performing acts of charity, practicing austerity and many special rituals.
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ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕਤੇਬ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਜਮੀਨ ਜਮਾਨ ਸਬਾਨ ਕੇ ਪੇਖੈ
Bed Puraan Kateb Kuraan jamoon jamaan sabaan ke pekhai||
Studying of Vedas, Puranas and holy Quran and scanning all this world and the next world.
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ਪਉਨ ਅਹਾਰ ਜਤੀ ਜਤ ਧਾਰ ਸਬੈ ਸੁ ਬਿਚਾਰ ਹਜਾਰ ਦੇਖੈ
Paun ahaar jatoo jat dhaar sabai su bichaar hajaar ka dekhai||
Subsisting only on air, practicing continence and meeting thousands of persons of all good thoughts.
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ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਭਜੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਭੂਪਤਿ ਏਕ ਰਤੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਏਕ ਲੇਖੈ ੨੪
Sroo Bhagaan bhaje bin(u) bhoopat(i) ek ratoo bin(u) ek na lekhai||4||24||
But O King! Without the remembrance of the Name of the Lord, all this is of no account, being without an iota of the Grace of the Lord. 4.24.
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(Akal Ustat Sahib)


ਏਕ ਸਿਵ ਭਏ ਏਕ ਗਏ ਏਕ ਫੇਰ ਭਏ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਕੇ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਭੀ ਅਨੇਕ ਹੈਂ
Ek Siv bhae ek gae ek pher bhae, Raamchandra Krishan ke avtaar bhoo anek hain||
There was one Shiva, who passed away and another one came into being; there are many incarnations of Ramchandra and Krishna.
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ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਅਰੁ ਬਿਸਨ ਕੇਤੇ ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੇਤੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਮੂਹਨ ਕੈ ਹੁਇ ਹੁਇ ਬਿਤਦੇ ਹੈਂ
Brahmaa ar(u) Bisan kete Bed au Puraan kete, Sinmrit(i) samoohan kai hue hue bitae hain||
There are many Brahmas and Vishnus, there are many Vedas and Puranas, there have been the authors of all the Smritis, who created their works and passed away.
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ਮੋਨਦੀ ਮਦਾਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਅਸੁਨੀ ਕੁਮਾਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਅੰਸਾ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਕਾਲ ਬਸ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ
Monadoo madaar kete Asunoo Kumaar kete, ansaa avtaar kete kaal bas bhae hain||
Many religious leaders, many chieftains of clans, many Ashwani Kumars and many degrees of incarnations, they had all been subject to death.
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ਪੀਰ ਪਿਕਾਂਬਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਗਨੇ ਪਰਤ ਏਤੇ ਭੁਮ ਹੀ ਤੇ ਹੁਇ ਕੈ ਫੇਰਿ ਭੁਮਿ ਹੀ ਮਿਲਏ ਹੈਂ ੭੭
Pir au pikaanbar kete gane na parat ete, bhoom hoo te hue kai pher(i) bhoom(i) hoo milae hain||7||77||
Many Muslim preceptors (Pirs) and Prophets, who cannot be count ed, they were born out of the earth, ultimately merged in the earth. 7.77.
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(Akal Ustat Sahib)


ਜਿਹ ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕਤੇਬ ਜਪੈ ਸੁਤਸਿੰਧ ਅਦੋ ਮੁਖ ਤਾਪ ਤਪੈ
JIh Bed Puraan Kateb japai|| Sutsindh adho much taap tapai||
The Vedas, Puranas and Katebs pray to Him. The son of ocean i.e. moon, with face upside down performs austerities for His realization.
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ਕਈ ਕਲਪਨ ਲੌ ਤਪ ਤਾਪ ਕਰੈ ਨਹੀ ਨੈਕ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਨ ਪਰੈ ੧੮੧੫੮
Kaee kalphan lau tap taap karai|| Nahoo naik kripaa nidh(i) paan parai||18||158||
He performs austerities for many kalpas (ages), still the Merciful Lord is not realized by him even for a short while.18.158.
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(Akal Ustat Sahib)


ਦੋਹਰਾ
Dohraa||
DOHRA
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ਕੋਈ ਪੜ੍ਹਤ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਕੋ ਕੋਈ ਪੜ੍ਹਤ ਪੁਰਾਨ
Kooo pa?hat Kuraan ko kooo pa?hat Puraan||
Someone studies the Quran and someone studies the Puranas.
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ਕਾਲ ਸਕਤ ਬਚਾਇ ਕੈ ਫੋਕਟ ਧਰਮ ਨਿਦਾਨ ੪੭
Kaal na sakat bachaae kai phokat dharam nidaan||47||
Mere reading cannot save one from death. Therefore such works are vain and do not help at the time of death.47.
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ਚੌਪਈ
Chaupaoo||
CHAUPAI
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ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਪੜ੍ਹਤ ਕੁਰਾਨਾ ਬਾਚਤ ਕਿਤੇ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਅਜਾਨਾ
Kaoo kottee mil(i) pa?hat Kuraanaa|| Baachat kite Puraan ajaanaa||
Millions of people recite the Quran and many study Puranas witout understanding the crux.
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ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲ ਕੋਈ ਕਾਮ ਆਵਾ ਦਾਵ ਕਾਲ ਕਾਹੂ ਬਚਾਵਾ ੪੮
Ant kaal kooo kaam na aavaa|| Daav kaal kaahoo na bachaavaa||48||
It will be of no use at the time of death and none will be saved.48.
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(Vachitar Natak Sahib, Chapter 6)

ਇਕ ਤਸਬੀ ਇਕ ਮਾਲਾ ਧਰਹੀ
Ik tasbiik maalaa dhar-hee||
One of them wears a Tasbi (the rosary of Muslims) and the other one wears Mala (the rosary of a Hindu);
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ਏਕ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਉਚਰਹੀ
Ek Kuraan Puraan uchar-hee||
One of them recites the Quran and the other one reads Puranas;
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ਕਰਤ ਬਿਰੁੱਧ ਗਏ ਮਰ ਮੂੜਾ
Karat biruddh gae mar moo?aa||
The adherents of both the religions are foolishly dying in opposing each other,
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ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਰੰਗੁ ਲਾਗਾ ਗੂੜਾ ੨੦
Prabh ko rang(u) na laagaa goo?aa||20||
And none of them is dyed in the love of the Lord.20.
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(Chaubees Avtar Sahib Chapter 1)

ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ
Sawaiyaa||
SWAYYA
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ਪਾਂਇ ਗਹੇ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਤੁਮਰੇ ਤਬ ਤੇ ਕੋਊ ਆਂਖ ਤਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਆਨਯੋ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤ ਏਕ ਮਾਨਯੋ
Paane gahe jab te tumre tab te kooo aankh tare nahiaanyo|| Raam Rahnm Puraan Kuraan mat ek na maanyo||
O God ! the day when I caught hold of your feet, I do not bring anyone else under my sight; none other is liked by me now; the Puranas and the Quran try to know Thee by the names of Ram and Rahim and talk about you through several stories, but I do not ac
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ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਸਭੈ ਬਹੁ ਭੇਦ ਕਹੈ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਜਾਨਯੋ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਸਿਪਾਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੈ ਕਹਯੋ ਸਭ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ੮੬੩
Sinmrit(i) Saasta Bed sabhai bahu bhed kahai ham ek naa jaanyo|| Sriasipaan kripaa tumrikar(i) main a kahyo sabh tohe bakhaanyo||863||
The Simritis, Shastras and Vedas describe several mysteries of yours, but I do not agree with any of them. O sword-wielder God! This all has been described by Thy Grace, what power can I have to write all this?.863.
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(Ram Avtar Sahib)

The last two are taken from Chubees Avtar.

If we read Charitropakhyan 266, it too condemns the Puranas.

Bhagvat and Gita both are targeted in this verse ie 101.

Likewise verse 23 talks of a Purana similar to one in Ramkali Sadu of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, unto Baba Sunder Ji.

Some Figures related to Purans in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.


(੧੧੦੫-੧੩, ਮਾਰੂ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਭਗਤ ਹੇਤਿ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਹਰਨਾਖਸੁ ਨਰਸਿੰਘ ਰੂਪ ਹੋਇ ਦੇਹ ਧਰਿਓ
bhagath haeth maariou haranaakhas narasingh roop hoe dhaeh dhhariou ||
For the sake of His devotee Prahlaad, God assumed the form of the man-lion, and killed Harnaakhash.
13 Maaroo Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੦੫-੧੩, ਮਾਰੂ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਨਾਮਾ ਕਹੈ ਭਗਤਿ ਬਸਿ ਕੇਸਵ ਅਜਹੂੰ ਬਲਿ ਕੇ ਦੁਆਰ ਖਰੋ
naamaa kehai bhagath bas kaesav ajehoon bal kae dhuaar kharo ||4||1||
Says Naam Dayv, the beautiful-haired Lord is in the power of His devotees; He is standing at Balraja's door, even now! ||4||1||
13 Maaroo Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 1105)



(੬੫੭-੧੦, ਸੋਰਠਿ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਨਾਮੇ ਕੇ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਸੀਅ ਬਹੋਰੀ ਲੰਕ ਭਭੀਖਣ ਆਪਿਓ ਹੋ
naamae kae suaamee seea behoree lank bhabheekhan aapiou ho ||4||2||
Naam Dayv's Lord Master brought Sita back, and gave Sri Lanka to Bhabheekhan. ||4||2||
10 Sorith Saint Nam Dev
( Ang 657)


(੮੭੪-੧੧, ਗੋਂਡ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਕੇਸੀ ਕੰਸ ਮਥਨੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਆ
kaesee kans mathhan jin keeaa ||
The Lord, who killed Kaysee and Kans,
11 Gond Saint Nam Dev


(੮੭੪-੧੨, ਗੋਂਡ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਜੀਅ ਦਾਨੁ ਕਾਲੀ ਕਉ ਦੀਆ
jeea dhaan kaalee ko dheeaa ||
gave the gift of life to Kali.
12 Gond Saint Nam Dev


(੮੭੪-੧੨, ਗੋਂਡ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਪ੍ਰਣਵੈ ਨਾਮਾ ਐਸੋ ਹਰੀ
pranavai naamaa aiso haree ||
Prays Naam Dayv, such is my Lord;
12 Gond Saint Nam Dev


(੮੭੪-੧੨, ਗੋਂਡ, ਭਗਤਨਾਮਦੇਵਜੀ)
ਜਾਸੁ ਜਪਤ ਭੈ ਅਪਦਾ ਟਰੀ
jaas japath bhai apadhaa ttaree ||4||1||5||
meditating on Him, fear and suffering are dispelled. ||4||1||5||
12 Gond Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 874)

(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭੈਰਉ ਮਹਲਾ
bhairo mehalaa 3 ||
Bhairao, Third Mehl:
1 null null


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਮੇਰੀ ਪਟੀਆ ਲਿਖਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਗੋਪਾਲਾ
maeree patteeaa likhahu har govindh gopaalaa ||
Upon my writing tablet, I write the Name of the Lord, the Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the World.
1 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਦੂਜੈ ਭਾਇ ਫਾਥੇ ਜਮ ਜਾਲਾ
dhoojai bhaae faathhae jam jaalaa ||
In the love of duality, the mortals are caught in the noose of the Messenger of Death.
2 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਮੇਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲਾ
sathigur karae maeree prathipaalaa ||
The True Guru nurtures and sustains me.
2 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਰਿ ਸੁਖਦਾਤਾ ਮੇਰੈ ਨਾਲਾ
har sukhadhaathaa maerai naalaa ||1||
The Lord, the Giver of peace, is always with me. ||1||
2 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਗੁਰ ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦੁ ਹਰਿ ਉਚਰੈ
gur oupadhaes prehilaadh har oucharai ||
Following his Guru's instructions, Prahlaad chanted the Lord's Name;
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਾਸਨਾ ਤੇ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਗਮੁ ਕਰੈ ਰਹਾਉ
saasanaa thae baalak gam n karai ||1|| rehaao ||
he was a child, but he was not afraid when his teacher yelled at him. ||1||Pause||
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਮਾਤਾ ਉਪਦੇਸੈ ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦ ਪਿਆਰੇ
maathaa oupadhaesai prehilaadh piaarae ||
Prahlaad's mother gave her beloved son some advice:
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਛੋਡਹੁ ਜੀਉ ਲੇਹੁ ਉਬਾਰੇ
puthr raam naam shhoddahu jeeo laehu oubaarae ||
\"My son, you must abandon the Lord's Name, and save your life!\"
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦੁ ਕਹੈ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਮੇਰੀ ਮਾਇ
prehilaadh kehai sunahu maeree maae ||
Prahlaad said: \"\"Listen, O my mother;
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਛੋਡਾ ਗੁਰਿ ਦੀਆ ਬੁਝਾਇ
raam naam n shhoddaa gur dheeaa bujhaae ||2||
I shall never give up the Lord's Name. My Guru has taught me this.\"||2||
5 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੰਡ ਮਰਕਾ ਸਭਿ ਜਾਇ ਪੁਕਾਰੇ
sanddaa marakaa sabh jaae pukaarae ||
Sandaa and Markaa, his teachers, went to his father the king, and complained:
5 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦੁ ਆਪਿ ਵਿਗੜਿਆ ਸਭਿ ਚਾਟੜੇ ਵਿਗਾੜੇ
prehilaadh aap vigarriaa sabh chaattarrae vigaarrae ||
\"Prahlaad himself has gone astray, and he leads all the other pupils astray.\"
6 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਦੁਸਟ ਸਭਾ ਮਹਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਪਕਾਇਆ
dhusatt sabhaa mehi manthra pakaaeiaa ||
In the court of the wicked king, a plan was hatched.
6 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਕਾ ਰਾਖਾ ਹੋਇ ਰਘੁਰਾਇਆ
prehalaadh kaa raakhaa hoe raghuraaeiaa ||3||
God is the Savior of Prahlaad. ||3||
6 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਾਥਿ ਖੜਗੁ ਕਰਿ ਧਾਇਆ ਅਤਿ ਅਹੰਕਾਰਿ
haathh kharrag kar dhhaaeiaa ath ahankaar ||
With sword in hand, and with great egotistical pride, Prahlaad's father ran up to him.
7 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਰਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਕਹਾ ਤੁਝੁ ਲਏ ਉਬਾਰਿ
har thaeraa kehaa thujh leae oubaar ||
\"Where is your Lord, who will save you?\"
7 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਭੈਆਨ ਰੂਪੁ ਨਿਕਸਿਆ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਉਪਾੜਿ
khin mehi bhaiaan roop nikasiaa thhanmh oupaarr ||
In an instant, the Lord appeared in a dreadful form, and shattered the pillar.
8 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਨਖੀ ਬਿਦਾਰਿਆ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਲੀਆ ਉਬਾਰਿ
haranaakhas nakhee bidhaariaa prehalaadh leeaa oubaar ||4||
Harnaakhash was torn apart by His claws, and Prahlaad was saved. ||4||
8 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾ ਕੇ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਕਾਰਜ ਸਵਾਰੇ
santh janaa kae har jeeo kaaraj savaarae ||
The Dear Lord completes the tasks of the Saints.
9 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਜਨ ਕੇ ਇਕੀਹ ਕੁਲ ਉਧਾਰੇ
prehalaadh jan kae eikeeh kul oudhhaarae ||
He saved twenty-one generations of Prahlaad's descendents.
9 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਬਿਖੁ ਮਾਰੇ
gur kai sabadh houmai bikh maarae ||
Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, the poison of egotism is neutralized.
9 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਿ ਸੰਤ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ ੧੦੨੦
naanak raam naam santh nisathaarae ||5||10||20||
O Nanak, through the Name of the Lord, the Saints are emancipated. ||5||10||20||
10 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭੈਰਉ ਮਹਲਾ
bhairo mehalaa 3 ||
Bhairao, Third Mehl:
10 null null


(੧੧੩੩-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਆਪੇ ਦੈਤ ਲਾਇ ਦਿਤੇ ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾ ਕਉ ਆਪੇ ਰਾਖਾ ਸੋਈ
aapae dhaith laae dhithae santh janaa ko aapae raakhaa soee ||
The Lord Himself makes demons pursue the Saints, and He Himself saves them.
10 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੧, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜੋ ਤੇਰੀ ਸਦਾ ਸਰਣਾਈ ਤਿਨ ਮਨਿ ਦੁਖੁ ਹੋਈ
jo thaeree sadhaa saranaaee thin man dhukh n hoee ||1||
Those who remain forever in Your Sanctuary, O Lord - their minds are never touched by sorrow. ||1||
11 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੧, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜੁਗਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਭਗਤਾ ਕੀ ਰਖਦਾ ਆਇਆ
jug jug bhagathaa kee rakhadhaa aaeiaa ||
In each and every age, the Lord saves the honor of His devotees.
11 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੨, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਦੈਤ ਪੁਤ੍ਰੁ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਗਾਇਤ੍ਰੀ ਤਰਪਣੁ ਕਿਛੂ ਜਾਣੈ ਸਬਦੇ ਮੇਲਿ ਮਿਲਾਇਆ ਰਹਾਉ
dhaith puthra prehalaadh gaaeithree tharapan kishhoo n jaanai sabadhae mael milaaeiaa ||1|| rehaao ||
Prahlaad, the demon's son, knew nothing of the Hindu morning prayer, the Gayatri, and nothing about ceremonial water-offerings to his ancestors; but through the Word of the Shabad, he was united in the Lord's Union. ||1||Pause||
12 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੩, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਦਿਨ ਰਾਤੀ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਸਬਦੇ ਖੋਈ
anadhin bhagath karehi dhin raathee dhubidhhaa sabadhae khoee ||
Night and day, he performed devotional worship service, day and night, and through the Shabad, his duality was eradicated.
13 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੩, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਦਾ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਸਚਿ ਰਾਤੇ ਸਚੁ ਵਸਿਆ ਮਨਿ ਸੋਈ
sadhaa niramal hai jo sach raathae sach vasiaa man soee ||2||
Those who are imbued with Truth are immaculate and pure; the True Lord abides within their minds. ||2||
13 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੪, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਮੂਰਖ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਪੜ੍ਹਹਿ ਮੂਲੁ ਪਛਾਣਹਿ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ
moorakh dhubidhhaa parrhehi mool n pashhaanehi birathhaa janam gavaaeiaa ||
The fools in duality read, but they do not understand anything; they waste their lives uselessly.
14 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੫, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਦੁਸਟੁ ਦੈਤੁ ਚਿੜਾਇਆ
santh janaa kee nindhaa karehi dhusatt dhaith chirraaeiaa ||3||
The wicked demon slandered the Saint, and stirred up trouble. ||3||
15 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੫, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਪੜੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਛੋਡੈ ਡਰੈ ਕਿਸੈ ਦਾ ਡਰਾਇਆ
prehalaadh dhubidhhaa n parrai har naam n shhoddai ddarai n kisai dhaa ddaraaeiaa ||
Prahlaad did not read in duality, and he did not abandon the Lord's Name; he was not afraid of any fear.
15 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੬, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾ ਕਾ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਰਾਖਾ ਦੈਤੈ ਕਾਲੁ ਨੇੜਾ ਆਇਆ
santh janaa kaa har jeeo raakhaa dhaithai kaal naerraa aaeiaa ||4||
The Dear Lord became the Savior of the Saint, and the demonic Death could not even approach him. ||4||
16 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੬, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਆਪਣੀ ਪੈਜ ਆਪੇ ਰਾਖੈ ਭਗਤਾਂ ਦੇਇ ਵਡਿਆਈ
aapanee paij aapae raakhai bhagathaan dhaee vaddiaaee ||
The Lord Himself saved his honor, and blessed his devotee with glorious greatness.
16 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੩੩-੧੭, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਨਖੀ ਬਿਦਾਰਿਆ ਅੰਧੈ ਦਰ ਕੀ ਖਬਰਿ ਪਾਈ ੧੧੨੧
naanak haranaakhas nakhee bidhaariaa andhhai dhar kee khabar n paaee ||5||11||21||
O Nanak, Harnaakhash was torn apart by the Lord with His claws; the blind demon knew nothing of the Lord's Court. ||5||11||21||
17 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das
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(੯੮੮-੧੩, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਮੇਰੋ ਬਾਪੁ ਮਾਧਉ ਤੂ ਧਨੁ ਕੇਸੌ ਸਾਂਵਲੀਓ ਬੀਠੁਲਾਇ ਰਹਾਉ
maero baap maadhho thoo dhhan kaesa saanvaleeou beethulaae ||1|| rehaao ||
O my Father, Lord of wealth, blessed are You, long-haired, dark-skinned, my darling. ||1||Pause||
13 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev


(੯੮੮-੧੪, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ
kar dhharae chakr baikunth thae aaeae gaj hasathee kae praan oudhhaareealae ||
You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.
14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev


(੯੮੮-੧੪, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ
dhuhasaasan kee sabhaa dhropathee anbar laeth oubaareealae ||1||
In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1||
14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev


(੯੮੮-੧੫, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ
gotham naar ahaliaa thaaree paavan kaethak thaareealae ||
You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across?
15 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev


(੯੮੮-੧੫, ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ
aisaa adhham ajaath naamadhaeo tho saranaagath aaeealae ||2||2||
Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2||
15 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 988)
(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭੈਰਉ ਮਹਲਾ ਘਰੁ
bhairo mehalaa 3 ghar 2
Bhairao, Third Mehl, Second House:
2 null null


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
2 null null


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਤਿਨਿ ਕਰਤੈ ਇਕੁ ਚਲਤੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ
thin karathai eik chalath oupaaeiaa ||
The Creator has staged His Wondrous Play.
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਅਨਹਦ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ
anehadh baanee sabadh sunaaeiaa ||
I listen to the Unstruck Sound-current of the Shabad, and the Bani of His Word.
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਭੂਲੇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬੁਝਾਇਆ
manamukh bhoolae guramukh bujhaaeiaa ||
The self-willed manmukhs are deluded and confused, while the Gurmukhs understand.
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕਾਰਣੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਆਇਆ
kaaran karathaa karadhaa aaeiaa ||1||
The Creator creates the Cause that causes. ||1||
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਮੇਰੈ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਧਿਆਨੁ
gur kaa sabadh maerai anthar dhhiaan ||
Deep within my being, I meditate on the Word of the Guru's Shabad.
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਉ ਕਬਹੁ ਛੋਡਉ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਹਾਉ
ho kabahu n shhoddo har kaa naam ||1|| rehaao ||
I shall never forsake the Name of the Lord. ||1||Pause||
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪਿਤਾ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਪੜਣ ਪਠਾਇਆ
pithaa prehalaadh parran pathaaeiaa ||
Prahlaad's father sent him to school, to learn to read.
5 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਲੈ ਪਾਟੀ ਪਾਧੇ ਕੈ ਆਇਆ
lai paattee paadhhae kai aaeiaa ||
He took his writing tablet and went to the teacher.
5 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਨਹ ਪੜਉ ਅਚਾਰ
naam binaa neh parro achaar ||
He said, \"\"I shall not read anything except the Naam, the Name of the Lord.
6 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਮੇਰੀ ਪਟੀਆ ਲਿਖਿ ਦੇਹੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਮੁਰਾਰਿ
maeree patteeaa likh dhaehu gobindh muraar ||2||
Write the Lord's Name on my tablet.\"||2||
6 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦ ਸਿਉ ਕਹਿਆ ਮਾਇ
puthr prehilaadh sio kehiaa maae ||
Prahlaad's mother said to her son,
6 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪਰਵਿਰਤਿ ਪੜਹੁ ਰਹੀ ਸਮਝਾਇ
paravirath n parrahu rehee samajhaae ||
\"I advise you not to read anything except what you are taught.\"
7 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਨਿਰਭਉ ਦਾਤਾ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਮੇਰੈ ਨਾਲਿ
nirabho dhaathaa har jeeo maerai naal ||
He answered, \"\"The Great Giver, my Fearless Lord God is always with me.
7 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਛੋਡਉ ਤਉ ਕੁਲਿ ਲਾਗੈ ਗਾਲਿ
jae har shhoddo tho kul laagai gaal ||3||
If I were to forsake the Lord, then my family would be disgraced.\"\"||3||
7 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦਿ ਸਭਿ ਚਾਟੜੇ ਵਿਗਾਰੇ
prehalaadh sabh chaattarrae vigaarae ||
\"Prahlaad has corrupted all the other students.
8 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਮਾਰਾ ਕਹਿਆ ਸੁਣੈ ਆਪਣੇ ਕਾਰਜ ਸਵਾਰੇ
hamaaraa kehiaa n sunai aapanae kaaraj savaarae ||
He does not listen to what I say, and he does his own thing.
8 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਭ ਨਗਰੀ ਮਹਿ ਭਗਤਿ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਈ
sabh nagaree mehi bhagath dhrirraaee ||
He instigated devotional worship in the townspeople.\"\"
9 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਦੁਸਟ ਸਭਾ ਕਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਵਸਾਈ
dhusatt sabhaa kaa kishh n vasaaee ||4||
The gathering of the wicked people could not do anything against him. ||4||
9 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੰਡ ਮਰਕੈ ਕੀਈ ਪੂਕਾਰ
sanddai marakai keeee pookaar ||
Sanda and Marka, his teachers, made the complaint.
9 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਭੇ ਦੈਤ ਰਹੇ ਝਖ ਮਾਰਿ
sabhae dhaith rehae jhakh maar ||
All the demons kept trying in vain.
10 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭਗਤ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਪਤਿ ਰਾਖੈ ਸੋਈ
bhagath janaa kee path raakhai soee ||
The Lord protected His humble devotee, and preserved his honor.
10 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੦, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕੀਤੇ ਕੈ ਕਹਿਐ ਕਿਆ ਹੋਈ
keethae kai kehiai kiaa hoee ||5||
What can be done by mere created beings? ||5||
10 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੧, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕਿਰਤ ਸੰਜੋਗੀ ਦੈਤਿ ਰਾਜੁ ਚਲਾਇਆ
kirath sanjogee dhaith raaj chalaaeiaa ||
Because of his past karma, the demon ruled over his kingdom.
11 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੧, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਰਿ ਬੂਝੈ ਤਿਨਿ ਆਪਿ ਭੁਲਾਇਆ
har n boojhai thin aap bhulaaeiaa ||
He did not realize the Lord; the Lord Himself confused him.
11 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੧, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਸਿਉ ਵਾਦੁ ਰਚਾਇਆ
puthr prehalaadh sio vaadh rachaaeiaa ||
He started an argument with his son Prahlaad.
11 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੨, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਅੰਧਾ ਬੂਝੈ ਕਾਲੁ ਨੇੜੈ ਆਇਆ
andhhaa n boojhai kaal naerrai aaeiaa ||6||
The blind one did not understand that his death was approaching. ||6||
12 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੨, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਕੋਠੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਰਾਖਿਆ ਬਾਰਿ ਦੀਆ ਤਾਲਾ
prehalaadh kothae vich raakhiaa baar dheeaa thaalaa ||
Prahlaad was placed in a cell, and the door was locked.
12 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੩, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਨਿਰਭਉ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਮੂਲਿ ਡਰਈ ਮੇਰੈ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਪਾਲਾ
nirabho baalak mool n ddaree maerai anthar gur gopaalaa ||
The fearless child was not afraid at all. He said, \"\"Within my being, is the Guru, the Lord of the World.\"\"
13 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੩, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕੀਤਾ ਹੋਵੈ ਸਰੀਕੀ ਕਰੈ ਅਨਹੋਦਾ ਨਾਉ ਧਰਾਇਆ
keethaa hovai sareekee karai anehodhaa naao dhharaaeiaa ||
The created being tried to compete with his Creator, but he assumed this name in vain.
13 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੪, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜੋ ਧੁਰਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ + ਆਇ ਪਹੁਤਾ ਜਨ ਸਿਉ ਵਾਦੁ ਰਚਾਇਆ
jo dhhur likhiaa suo aae pahuthaa jan sio vaadh rachaaeiaa ||7||
That which was predestined for him has come to pass; he started an argument with the Lord's humble servant. ||7||
14 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੪, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪਿਤਾ ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਸਿਉ ਗੁਰਜ ਉਠਾਈ
pithaa prehalaadh sio guraj outhaaee ||
The father raised the club to strike down Prahlaad, saying,
14 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੫, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕਹਾਂ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰਾ ਜਗਦੀਸ ਗੁਸਾਈ
kehaan thumhaaraa jagadhees gusaaee ||
\"Where is your God, the Lord of the Universe, now?\"
15 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੫, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜਗਜੀਵਨੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਅੰਤਿ ਸਖਾਈ
jagajeevan dhaathaa anth sakhaaee ||
He replied, \"\"The Life of the World, the Great Giver, is my Help and Support in the end.
15 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੫, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜਹ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਈ
jeh dhaekhaa theh rehiaa samaaee ||8||
Wherever I look, I see Him permeating and prevailing.\"\"||8||
15 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੬, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹੁ ਉਪਾੜਿ ਹਰਿ ਆਪੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ
thhanmha oupaarr har aap dhikhaaeiaa ||
Tearing down the pillars, the Lord Himself appeared.
16 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੬, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਅਹੰਕਾਰੀ ਦੈਤੁ ਮਾਰਿ ਪਚਾਇਆ
ahankaaree dhaith maar pachaaeiaa ||
The egotistical demon was killed and destroyed.
16 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੬, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭਗਤਾ ਮਨਿ ਆਨੰਦੁ ਵਜੀ ਵਧਾਈ
bhagathaa man aanandh vajee vadhhaaee ||
The minds of the devotees were filled with bliss, and congratulations poured in.
16 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੭, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਅਪਨੇ ਸੇਵਕ ਕਉ ਦੇ ਵਡਿਆਈ
apanae saevak ko dhae vaddiaaee ||9||
He blessed His servant with glorious greatness. ||9||
17 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੭, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਜੰਮਣੁ ਮਰਣਾ ਮੋਹੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ
janman maranaa mohu oupaaeiaa ||
He created birth, death and attachment.
17 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੭, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਆਵਣੁ ਜਾਣਾ ਕਰਤੈ ਲਿਖਿ ਪਾਇਆ
aavan jaanaa karathai likh paaeiaa ||
The Creator has ordained coming and going in reincarnation.
17 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੮, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਕੈ ਕਾਰਜਿ ਹਰਿ ਆਪੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ
prehalaadh kai kaaraj har aap dhikhaaeiaa ||
For the sake of Prahlaad, the Lord Himself appeared.
18 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੮, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭਗਤਾ ਕਾ ਬੋਲੁ ਆਗੈ ਆਇਆ ੧੦
bhagathaa kaa bol aagai aaeiaa ||10||
The word of the devotee came true. ||10||
18 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਦੇਵ ਕੁਲੀ ਲਖਿਮੀ ਕਉ ਕਰਹਿ ਜੈਕਾਰੁ
dhaev kulee lakhimee ko karehi jaikaar ||
The gods proclaimed the victory of Lakshmi, and said,
19 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਮਾਤਾ ਨਰਸਿੰਘ ਕਾ ਰੂਪੁ ਨਿਵਾਰੁ
maathaa narasingh kaa roop nivaar ||
\"O mother, make this form of the Man-lion disappear!\"
19 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੪-੧੯, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਲਖਿਮੀ ਭਉ ਕਰੈ ਸਾਕੈ ਜਾਇ
lakhimee bho karai n saakai jaae ||
Lakshmi was afraid, and did not approach.
19 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das
(Ang 1154)

(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦੁ ਜਨੁ ਚਰਣੀ ਲਾਗਾ ਆਇ ੧੧
prehalaadh jan charanee laagaa aae ||11||
The humble servant Prahlaad came and fell at the Lord's Feet. ||11||
1 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ
sathigur naam nidhhaan dhrirraaeiaa ||
The True Guru implanted the treasure of the Naam within.
1 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਰਾਜੁ ਮਾਲੁ ਝੂਠੀ ਸਭ ਮਾਇਆ
raaj maal jhoothee sabh maaeiaa ||
Power, property and all Maya is false.
2 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਲੋਭੀ ਨਰ ਰਹੇ ਲਪਟਾਇ
lobhee nar rehae lapattaae ||
But still, the greedy people continue clinging to them.
2 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨੁ ਦਰਗਹ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ੧੨
har kae naam bin dharageh milai sajaae ||12||
Without the Name of the Lord, the mortals are punished in His Court. ||12||
2 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਾਇਆ
kehai naanak sabh ko karae karaaeiaa ||
Says Nanak, everyone acts as the Lord makes them act.
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਸੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਜਿਨੀ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇਆ
sae paravaan jinee har sio chith laaeiaa ||
They alone are approved and accepted, who focus their consciousness on the Lord.
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਭਗਤਾ ਕਾ ਅੰਗੀਕਾਰੁ ਕਰਦਾ ਆਇਆ
bhagathaa kaa angeekaar karadhaa aaeiaa ||
He has made His devotees His Own.
3 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das


(੧੧੫੫-, ਭੈਰਉ, )
ਕਰਤੈ ਅਪਣਾ ਰੂਪੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ ੧੩
karathai apanaa roop dhikhaaeiaa ||13||1||2||
The Creator has appeared in His Own Form. ||13||1||2||
4 Bhaira-o Guru Amar Das
(Ang 1155)

The last two verse above are ditto from chapter 7 of Shrimad Bhagvat Purana.
 
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We have seen so far some link between Puranas and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Further a few questions to writer.

Does Vishnu takes incarnation in Shrimad Bhagvat ,as per order of Sikh God as in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib ?

Does insult to Brahmin Parshuram ,inflicted by Lord Rama is told in Shrimad Bhagvat ?

ਰਾਮ ਬਾਚ ਪਰਸਰਾਮ ਸੋ
Raam Baach Parasraam So||
Speech of Ram addressed to Parashuram:

Page 530, Line 7


ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ
Swaiyaa||
SWAYYA

Page 530, Line 8


ਬੋਲ ਕਹੇ ਸੁ ਸਹੇ ਦਿਸ ਜੂ ਜੁ ਪੈ ਫੇਰਿ ਕਹੇ ਤੇ ਪੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਖ੍ਵੈਹੋ
Bol kahe su sahe dij joo ju pai pher(i) kahe te pai praan khvaiho||
“O Brahmin ! you have already said whatever you wanted to say and if you say anything more now, you will have to risk your life.

Page 530, Line 9


ਬੋਲਤ ਐਂਠ ਕਹਾ ਸਠ ਜਿਉ ਸਭ ਦਾਂਤ ਤੁਰਾਇ ਅਬੈ ਘਰਿ ਜੈਹੋ
Bolat ainth kahaa sath jio sabh daant turaae abai ghar(i) jaiho||
“O fool ! why do you speak with such pride, you will have to go now to your home after getting your teeth broken and after receiving good tharashin.

Page 530, Line 10


ਧੀਰ ਤਬੈ ਲਹਿਹੈ ਤੁਮ ਕੱਉ ਜਦ ਭੀਰ ਪਰੀ ਇਕ ਤੀਰ ਚਲੈਹੋ
Dheer tabai lahehai tum kau jad bheer pariik teer chaliho||
“I am seeing you with patience; if I consider it necessary, then I shall have to discharge only one arrow.

Page 530, Line 11


ਬਾਤ ਸੰਭਾਰ ਕਹੋ ਮੁਖਿ ਤੇ ਇਨ ਬਾਤਨ ਕੋ ਅਬ ਹੀ ਫਲਿ ਪੈਹੋ ੧੫੧
Baat sanbhaar kaho mukh(i) te in baatan ko ab hiphal(i) paiho||151||
“Therefore talk with restraint, otherwise you will receive the reward for such talk just now.”151.

Page 530, Line 12
(Ram Avtar Sahib)

Does Shrimad Bhagvat has this instance of Krishna sending grazers to Brahmins of Mathura and making such comments for Brahmins ?

ਰਾਮ ਬਾਚ ਪਰਸਰਾਮ ਸੋ
Raam Baach Parasraam So||
Speech of Ram addressed to Parashuram:

Page 530, Line 7


ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ
Swaiyaa||
SWAYYA

Page 530, Line 8


ਬੋਲ ਕਹੇ ਸੁ ਸਹੇ ਦਿਸ ਜੂ ਜੁ ਪੈ ਫੇਰਿ ਕਹੇ ਤੇ ਪੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਖ੍ਵੈਹੋ
Bol kahe su sahe dij joo ju pai pher(i) kahe te pai praan khvaiho||
“O Brahmin ! you have already said whatever you wanted to say and if you say anything more now, you will have to risk your life.

Page 530, Line 9


ਬੋਲਤ ਐਂਠ ਕਹਾ ਸਠ ਜਿਉ ਸਭ ਦਾਂਤ ਤੁਰਾਇ ਅਬੈ ਘਰਿ ਜੈਹੋ
Bolat ainth kahaa sath jio sabh daant turaae abai ghar(i) jaiho||
“O fool ! why do you speak with such pride, you will have to go now to your home after getting your teeth broken and after receiving good tharashin.

Page 530, Line 10


ਧੀਰ ਤਬੈ ਲਹਿਹੈ ਤੁਮ ਕੱਉ ਜਦ ਭੀਰ ਪਰੀ ਇਕ ਤੀਰ ਚਲੈਹੋ
Dheer tabai lahehai tum kau jad bheer pariik teer chaliho||
“I am seeing you with patience; if I consider it necessary, then I shall have to discharge only one arrow.

Page 530, Line 11


ਬਾਤ ਸੰਭਾਰ ਕਹੋ ਮੁਖਿ ਤੇ ਇਨ ਬਾਤਨ ਕੋ ਅਬ ਹੀ ਫਲਿ ਪੈਹੋ ੧੫੧
Baat sanbhaar kaho mukh(i) te in baatan ko ab hiphal(i) paiho||151||
“Therefore talk with restraint, otherwise you will receive the reward for such talk just now.”151.

Page 530, Line 12
(Krishna Avtar Sahib)

Further are there any incarnations of Vishnus named sun, moon, Brahma, Shiva etc. being told in Shrimad Bhagvat Purana ?

Writer agrees that 20 Avtars are there in Shrimad Bhagvat Purana and 24 is Shri Dasham Granth Sahib.

Then writer plays a double game. So far he was bashing the work of Tenth Guru as translation of brahminical texts but know on finding uniqueness at Kalki Avtar and the story of Mihadi Meer, he says that in negative notion towards the poet that from where he has brought this ?

This very ridiculous on his part. Tommorow, if he finds something unique endemic to Sikhs in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, he will say from where Guru Brought it.

When something unique and unprecedented viz a viz Hindus is find then it makes proof of it being from other faith.

Unlike writer’s claim, there is no Avtar of Mihadi Meer. He comes to kill arrogant Kalki, who claims to be God. After killing Kalki, Mihadi Meer to becomes proud and then God of Sikhs makes and insect to kill Mihadi also. This story is just proves that both future savior of Hindus and Muslims are worth an insect for Sikh’s God. Coming of Mihadi Meer is in end of Kalki Avtar while there is a chapter about his killing.

3. Shiv Mahapuran.

Over here we will see a funny display of intellect of the writer.

Writer does not tell that, Shiv is told to be an avtar/incarnation of Vishnu, on the order of God of Sikhs. Neither does writer tells Shiv worshipping God of Sikhs and then taking two Avtars of Datt and Parasnath as ordained by God of Sikhs.

In Charitropakhyan 266 mockery of phallus worship is made.

In Charitropakhyan 405, we find Shiv worshipping Mahakal(God of Sikhs) and Mahakal Bhairva(demigod of Shaktas) , an incarnation of Shiv having a subordinate role there.

Fact is that Mahakal(of Shaktas or the phallus of Ujjain) is incarnation of Shiv.

If we go by tree, it comes at fourth level from God of Sikhs.

Level 1. Mahakal/Kal Purakh/God of Sikhs
Level 2. Vishnu(manifestation of God of Sikh taking in carnation further)
Level 3.Shiv(in carnation of Vishnu)
Level 4.Mahakal/Mahakal Bhairva/Husband of Kali/Warrior incarnation of Shiv.

Then why do we have same name in level 1 and 4.

We have similar examples in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji eg

(੧੪੨੯-, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਰਾਮੁ ਗਇਓ ਰਾਵਨੁ ਗਇਓ ਜਾ ਕਉ ਬਹੁ ਪਰਵਾਰੁ
raam gaeiou raavan gaeiou jaa ko bahu paravaar ||
Raam Chand passed away, as did Raawan, even though he had lots of relatives.
3 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur


(੧੪੨੯-, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਥਿਰੁ ਕਛੁ ਨਹੀ ਸੁਪਨੇ ਜਿਉ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ੫੦
kahu naanak thhir kashh nehee supanae jio sansaar ||50||
Says Nanak, nothing lasts forever; the world is like a dream. ||50||
3 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur

Here Rama is some one different from God and a mortal. This mortal is worshipped by Hindus as an incarnation of their demigod Vishnu.


(੧੪੨੯-੧੦, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਉਰ ਮੈ ਗਹਿਓ ਜਾ ਕੈ ਸਮ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਇ
raam naam our mai gehiou jaa kai sam nehee koe ||
I have enshrined the Lord's Name within my heart; there is nothing equal to it.
10 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur


(੧੪੨੯-੧੦, ਸਲੋਕ, )
ਜਿਹ ਸਿਮਰਤ ਸੰਕਟ ਮਿਟੈ ਦਰਸੁ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਹੋਇ ੫੭
jih simarath sankatt mittai dharas thuhaaro hoe ||57||1||
Meditating in remembrance on it, my troubles are taken away; I have received the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan. ||57||1||
10 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur

Here Ram is for God of Sikhs.

Both are on Ang 1429.




So let us take a few issues raised by the writer.
Shiv Sahasra naam having terms similar to Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.

As told before that Vishnu Sahasranam from Mahabharata also has terms similar to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Srinivas, Keshaw, Madhav Gobind,Shridhar,Gadadhar

But in both case God of Sikh is not the Hindu demigod.

Then see the following verses from Shri Guru Granth Sahib.



(੩੨੪-੧੩, ਗਉੜੀ, ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਚਤੁਰਾਈ ਚਤੁਰਭੁਜੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਰਹਾਉ
chathuraaee n chathurabhuj paaeeai || rehaao ||
Through cleverness, the four-armed Lord is not obtained. ||Pause||
13 Gaurhee Saint Kabir
(Ang 324)

(੧੧੦੫-੧੦, ਮਾਰੂ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਮਾਲਾ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਬਿਰਾਜਿਤ ਦੇਖਿ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪੁ ਜਮੁ ਡਰਿਓ
sankh chakr maalaa thilak biraajith dhaekh prathaap jam ddariou ||
He is adorned with the conch, the chakra, the mala and the ceremonial tilak mark on his forehead; gazing upon his radiant glory, the Messenger of Death is scared away.
10 Maaroo Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 1105)

(੧੪੦੨-੧੭, ਸਵਈਏ ਮਹਲੇ ਚਉਥੇ ਕੇ, ਗਯੰਦ)
ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਗਦਾ ਪਦਮ ਆਪਿ ਆਪੁ ਕੀਓ ਛਦਮ ਅਪਰੰਪਰ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਲਖੈ ਕਉਨੁ ਤਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ
sankh chakr gadhaa padham aap aap keeou shhadham aparanpar paarabreham lakhai koun thaahi jeeo ||
You are the Infinite Supreme Lord God; with your symbols of power, You deceived Baliraja; who can know You?
17 Sava-yay (praise of Guru Ram Das Ga-yand
(Ang 1402)

Then kindly refer to Shrimad Bhagvat Purana 8-12 verse ,2nd chapter ,2nd Shoulder.

So anyone can further say with the logic of people like writer that this thing


(੧੦੮੩-੧੦, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਕਿਰਤਮ ਨਾਮ ਕਥੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਜਿਹਬਾ
kiratham naam kathhae thaerae jihabaa ||
With my tongue I chant the Names given to You.
10 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev


(੧੦੮੩-੧੧, ਮਾਰੂ, )
ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਪਰਾ ਪੂਰਬਲਾ
sath naam thaeraa paraa poorabalaa ||
Sat Naam' is Your perfect, primal Name.
11 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 1083)

As per same logic as people like writer use we can say that this verse is used in praise of Lord Vishnu only. That by a Vaishnav.

Next another blunder wtier commits, he says that on 16th page of Shiv Purana, there is Bhujang Pryat Stotram, While truth is that on 16th page of Shiv Purana, we have Shiv telling Brahma and Vishnu about the fruitfulness of Shiv Ratri. Chapter 9 Pratham Vidhveshwar Samhita Shiva Purana.

Fact is that publishers often put some mantra or spells related deities before actual text of Puranas, which they tell devotees to read or say along side reading text. In the nut shell Bhujang Pryat Strotram is not the part of Shiv Purana. There a such stotram for Laxmi ie goddess of wealth and Sharda, the goddess of education also.

If writer says that Japu Sahib had it, then he should know that Shri Guru Shobhas of Senapati has first chapter with Bhojang Prayat Chhands. Syam Snehi of Alam has Bhujang Chants again.

If we see Shri Guru Granth Sahib we find the word “Salok”. If we add dot or Bindi below Sassa as creed of writer does while it makes Patshah from Patsah. Thin it becomes Shalok. Then as Hindu text has Shaloks in them so they could not be valid for Shri Guru Granth Sahib or Sikhs so remove all its reference from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?

As per writer it could be OK perhaps.

We have Arti term in Rag Dhansari. While there is an Arti of Hanuman by Bhagat Ramanand Ji ie “Arti Kijai Hanuman Lalla Ki”. All are aware that in both case Arti is totally different but as per logic of writer, we must not continue with term Arti in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji perhaps.

We have Ragas used by Hindus like Danasari(Ghankshri in Hindus),Bhairo(Bharav), Nat Narayan. We have tunes nearer to Muslims too like Todi(torhi) or Kafi . So by same logic they are unfit to be used.

We explicitly talk of tunes based upon non Sikh when we read Vars like that of Asa Di Var. As per logic of writer that is some thing which goes against the authenticity of these verse perhaps.

Next about nature of ladies. Due to lack of genuine ideas writer repeats quotes from Shiv Purana about which, there has been explation already done in chapter “views about ladies”.

Then writer talks about “Uma Mahima “ part of Shiva Purana about that also he mentioned before and has been replied.See the chapter before and including “form of worshipped”.
4. Shiv Upasana. Writer does not give much material from here. This has been included just to let readers see that writer has used more of books.
5. Mahakali Upasana.

Here in first issue the writer commits a blunder. As per his knowledge , the worshipper of left side of half women lord is either vam margi/left path mover, also called Shakat Matiya/ follower of Shakti the demigoddess also called Tantric.

First a few question regarding Vam margis.

Is writer aware of book called “Charyapad” by Shabarpa(pa is short for paad).
What about book called Dombi gitika, Yogcharya, Akshardvikoupdesh by Dombhipa .
Sarhapa’s book “dohakosh” ?
Who were Luipa, kanhapa ,kukripa ?

Ok they were of total 84.

Mentioned in Shri Guru Granth Sahib also. Writer claims that he read Guru Granth Sahib Ji????


(੬੬੯-੧੦, ਧਨਾਸਰੀ, )
ਚਉਰਾਸੀਹ ਸਿਧ ਬੁਧ ਤੇਤੀਸ ਕੋਟਿ ਮੁਨਿ ਜਨ ਸਭਿ ਚਾਹਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਤੇਰੋ ਨਾਉ
chouraaseeh sidhh budhh thaethees kott mun jan sabh chaahehi har jeeo thaero naao ||
The eighty-four Siddhas, the spiritual masters, the Buddhas, the three hundred thirty million gods and the silent sages, all long for Your Name, O Dear Lord.
10 Dhanaasree Guru Ram Das
(Ang 669)

(੯੩੯-, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਗੋਰਖ ੂਤੁ ਲੋਹਾਰੀਪਾ ਬੋਲੈ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਬਿਧਿ ਸਾਈ
gorakh pooth lohaareepaa bolai jog jugath bidhh saaee ||7||
Luhaareepaa, the disciple of Gorakh says, this is the Way of Yoga.\"\"||7||
1 Raamkalee Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 939)
These we Budhist Sidhas, called Vajrayanas, last to be absorbed into Hinduism via Jallandherpa and Gorakhpa.

They were Buddhist Vam Margis, who were atheist. So could writer tell that which part of Ardh Narishvar they worshipped ?

There are Shaiv or Shavite Vam Margis too in Kapaliks.

So Vam Marg means difficult way where once will power towards the dedication for salvation is tested while being in allurements like sex, wine and meat. We find these guys mean mentioned in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

(੪੭੬-੧੨, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਆਸਾ
aasaa ||
Aasaa:
12 null null


(੪੭੬-੧੨, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਇਕਤੁ ਪਤਰਿ ਭਰਿ ਉਰਕਟ ਕੁਰਕਟ ਇਕਤੁ ਪਤਰਿ ਭਰਿ ਪਾਨੀ
eikath pathar bhar ourakatt kurakatt eikath pathar bhar paanee ||
In one pot, they put a boiled chicken, and in the other pot, they put wine.
12 Aasaa Saint Kabir


(੪੭੬-੧੩, ਆਸਾ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਆਸਿ ਪਾਸਿ ਪੰਚ ਜੋਗੀਆ ਬੈਠੇ ਬੀਚਿ ਨਕਟ ਦੇ ਰਾਨੀ
aas paas panch jogeeaa baithae beech nakatt dhae raanee ||1||
The five Yogis of the Tantric ritual sit there, and in their midst sits the noseless one, the shameless queen. ||1||
13 Aasaa Saint Kabir
(Ang 476)


While those who stay away from allurements and try for salvation use easy or right path so they are called Dakshin Margis.

In Shaktas we have celibate, non drinkers, vegetarian worshippers , who worship nine form of Durga, keep fast during nine days of Navratra. They are called Dakshin Margi Shaktas. Their main demigoddess in Vaishnu Devi of Trikoot mountain near Jammu.

Dakshin Margi Shaktas as well Shavite have respect for left side women half also for Ardhnarishwar. Also Shiv Purana is shavite Granth and as a mark of respect to wife of master, there is chapter called glory of Uma(wife of Shiva) .

Then further to it we find Shiva being belittle in Shri Dasham Granth Sahib(see in chapter dealing with ‘form of worshipped’).

It has been proved in first chapter of Vachitar Natak Sahib about opposing occult or Tantra,

ਕਿਤਿਓ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਸਾਧੇ ਜੁ ਜਨਮੰ ਬਿਤਾਇਓ ਭਏ ਫੋਕਟੰ ਕਾਜ ਏਕੈ ਆਇਓ ੬੨
Kitio tantra saadhe ju janamang bitaaio|| Bhae phokatang kaaj ekai na aaio||62||
Many Tantras have been tamed and in such endeavours one hath wasted his birth. All have become useless and none hath proved useful.62.
Line 7
(Vachitar Natak Sahib 1.63)
same is repeated in Charitropakhyan 266.

So does Tantric are same as Vammargi Shakt Mati.

Well name of few books related to tantra are given below. Could be obtained from Deep Publication, Kanchan Market, Hospital Road, Agra-3.

Mr. Dalbeer Singh Ji could hire a Haryana Road ways bus from Ballabgarh to Agra and could return back his home the same day.

Baudh Tantra Shastra(Budhist Tantras)
Jain “ “ (Jain “ )
Hindu “ “ (Hindu “ )
Islami “ “ (Islami “ )
Shabar “ “ (Shabar Tantra)
Kundalini Tantra Rahsya(more to do with Yogic chakras)

So we could say about the writer, one eyed is king in blinds.

Then he tries to join Kalikashtam with verse on page 810. Here he himself gives reference in tantric spell without serpent(it is a weapon called Nagini) or saber .This has been explained in “form of worshipped” already.

Wrtier says that one Hindu auther tries to say that Tenth Master worshipped demigoddess.

So what is fault of Text of Tenth Master if some one makes false propaganda.

We have seen Dera not Sachcha Sauda of Sirsa using this verse from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to prove their divinity.


(੯੨੨-੧੮, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, )
ਸੰਤ ਸਾਜਨ ਭਏ ਸਰਸੇ ਪੂਰੇ ਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਜਾਣੀ
santh saajan bheae sarasae poorae gur thae jaanee ||
The Saints and their friends are in ecstasy, knowing the Perfect Guru.
18 Raamkalee Guru Amar Das
(Ang 922)

They use term S{censored} for their town of Sarsa.

Radh Swami Baba Ji of beas (perhaps Baba Jaimal Singh Ji or Baba Savan Singh Ji), when met with Rai Bahadur Saligram Ji(Arga Branch Radhswamis) in Punjab.

The Sabad was sung from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.


(੭੫੭-੧੦, ਸੂਹੀ, )
ਕੋਈ ਆਣਿ ਮਿਲਾਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮੁ ਿਆਰਾ ਹਉ ਤਿਸੁ ਪਹਿ ਆਪੁ ਵੇਚਾਈ
koee aan milaavai maeraa preetham piaaraa ho this pehi aap vaechaaee ||1||
If only someone would come, and lead me to meet my Darling Beloved; I would sell myself to him. ||1||
10 Soohee Guru Ram Das
(Ang 757)

Here beloved could be Guru in Human form/Dehdhari Gurudom.

(Radhswami’s using quotes from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to encourage dehdhari Gurudom is all known, there has been one book exclusively written while another publication is from Sikh missionary collage, Ludhiana dealing with Gurmat and Dehdhair Gurudom).

Coming to Hindtuva guys.

B L Sharma Ji, circulated a pamphlet , for Sikhs to protect Adam’s bridge which Hindus called Ram Setu. There by many verses he tried to prove that Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji support the worship of lord Rama.

One of such verse was this.


(੯੭੦-੧੧, ਰਾਮਕਲੀ, ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ)
ਜਾਨੀ ਜਾਨੀ ਰੇ ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਮ ਕਹਾਨੀ
jaanee jaanee rae raajaa raam kee kehaanee ||
I have come to know the story of my Sovereign Lord.
11 Raamkalee Saint Kabir
(Ang 970)

While another verse due to his being unaware of Gurbani was also quoted.


(੧੪੧੨-, ਸਲੋਕ ਵਾਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਵਧੀਕ, )
ਰਾਮੁ ਝੁਰੈ ਦਲ ਮੇਲਵੈ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਲੁ ਅਧਿਕਾਰ
raam jhurai dhal maelavai anthar bal adhhikaar ||
Raam Chand, sad at heart, assembled his army and forces.
6 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev


(੧੪੧੨-, ਸਲੋਕ ਵਾਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਵਧੀਕ, )
ਬੰਤਰ ਕੀ ਸੈਨਾ ਸੇਵੀਐ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਜੁਝੁ ਅਪਾਰੁ
banthar kee sainaa saeveeai man than jujh apaar ||
The army of monkeys was at his service; his mind and body became eager for war.
7 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 1412)

There while Rama was told with ungodly attributes yet it was quoted.

As we need to understand that hardly any Hindu, learns nowadays so just to impress the followers, wrong things could be put in.

Then we have Mr. B Lal from Madhya Pradesh, and office bearer of Rashtriya Sikh Sangat. First they try to portray Sikhs as Hindus, when they find no ground then start condemning Sikhs. He was once made to realize that when we have to preach good ideology to evil, then we have to practice it ourselves first.

As per him Term Narayan given below is for Vishnu.And not the God of Sikhs.


(੮੨੫-, ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ, )
ਸੁਲਹੀ ਤੇ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ਰਾਖੁ
sulehee thae naaraaein raakh ||
The Lord saved me from Sulhi Khan.
2 Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 825)

So if due to lack of knowledge, spirituality (in the writer’s case also) or due to ulterior motive if some one misquotes or tells lies for Gurbani, then we need to counter that instead of planning to discard the Gurbani.

Then in next paragraph writer proves is understanding of Gurbani and spiritual level when he says that Tenth Master was the worshipper of Ek Oankar.

While the fact is that Tenth Master was one with Akal, and no one can worship Sikh God as all is Sikh God only.


(੮੬੪-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਣੁ
gur paramaesar eaeko jaan ||
Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Lord are One.
9 Gond Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 864)



(੧੪੨੦-੧੧, ਸਲੋਕ ਵਾਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਵਧੀਕ, )
ਵਿਣੁ ਬੋਲਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਕਿਸੁ ਆਗ ਕੀਚੈ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ
vin boliaa sabh kishh jaanadhaa kis aagai keechai aradhaas ||
He knows everything, without being told; unto whom should we offer our prayers?
11 Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Amar Das
(Ang 1420)

Then he further tries to bring Singhs into mammon of three qualities by misquoting Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

We are very weak while our Guru protect us. While he tells us that our Guru is in danger. There is no danger who could as much strong that could come near our Guru. He in fact tries to portray our Guru, weak , so that danger could loom large over that.


(੧੧੯੫-੧੬, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਬਸੰਤੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਜੀ ਕੀ
basanth baanee naamadhaeo jee kee
Basant, The Word Of Naam Dayv Jee:
17 null null


(੧੧੯੫-੧੭, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
17 null null


(੧੧੯੫-੧੭, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸੰਕਟਵੈ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਭਜੈ
saahib sankattavai saevak bhajai ||
If the servant runs away when his master is in trouble,
17 Basant Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੯੫-੧੭, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਚਿਰੰਕਾਲ ਜੀਵੈ ਦੋਊ ਕੁਲ ਲਜੈ
chirankaal n jeevai dhooo kul lajai ||1||
he will not have a long life, and he brings shame to all his family. ||1||
17 Basant Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੯੫-੧੮, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਤੇਰੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਛੋਡਉ ਭਾਵੈ ਲੋਗੁ ਹਸੈ
thaeree bhagath n shhoddo bhaavai log hasai ||
I shall not abandon devotional worship of You, O Lord, even if the people laugh at me.
18 Basant Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੯੫-੧੮, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲ ਮੇਰੇ ਹੀਅਰੇ ਬਸੈਂ ਰਹਾਉ
charan kamal maerae heearae basain ||1|| rehaao ||
The Lord's Lotus Feet abide within my heart. ||1||Pause||
18 Basant Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੯੫-੧੯, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਜੈਸੇ ਅਪਨੇ ਧਨਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਮਰਨੁ ਮਾਂਡੈ
jaisae apanae dhhanehi praanee maran maanddai ||
The mortal will even die for the sake of his wealth;
19 Basant Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੯੫-੧੯, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਤੈਸੇ ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾਂ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਛਾਡੈਂ
thaisae santh janaan raam naam n shhaaddain ||2||
in the same way, the Saints do not forsake the Lord's Name. ||2||
19 Basant Saint Nam Dev


(੧੧੯੫-੧੯, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਗੰਗਾ ਗਇਆ ਗੋਦਾਵਰੀ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਕੇ ਕਾਮਾ
gangaa gaeiaa godhaavaree sansaar kae kaamaa ||
Pilgrimages to the Ganges, the Gaya and the Godawari are merely worldly affairs.
19 Basant Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 1195)


(੧੧੯੬-, ਬਸੰਤੁ, ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ)
ਨਾਰਾਇਣੁ ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਹੋਇ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਨਾਮਾ
naaraaein suprasann hoe th saevak naamaa ||3||1||
If the Lord were totally pleased, then He would let Naam Dayv be His servant. ||3||1||
1 Basant Saint Nam Dev
(Ang 1196)

Here only an examples from human master- servant is given. While writer himself has abandoned his master, when on the misguidance by other people writer has left the Tenth Master.


(੬੦-, ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ, )
ਰੇ ਮਨ ਐਸੀ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਕਰਿ ਜੈਸੀ ਜਲ ਦੁਧ ਹੋਇ
rae man aisee har sio preeth kar jaisee jal dhudhh hoe ||
O mind, love the Lord, as the water loves the milk.
5 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev


(੬੦-, ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ, )
ਆਵਟਣੁ ਆਪੇ ਖਵੈ ਦੁਧ ਕਉ ਖਪਣਿ ਦੇਇ
aavattan aapae khavai dhudhh ko khapan n dhaee ||
The water, added to the milk, itself bears the heat, and prevents the milk from burning.
6 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev


(੬੦-, ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ, )
ਆਪੇ ਮੇਲਿ ਵਿਛੁੰਨਿਆ ਸਚਿ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਦੇਇ
aapae mael vishhunniaa sach vaddiaaee dhaee ||4||
God unites the separated ones with Himself again, and blesses them with true greatness. ||4||
6 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev
(Ang 60)

Here last line is omitted by writer as writer hardly has faith in God. For him what matters is human Guru and text interpreted by ideology. Such created things could be weak so panic and fear could be in writer but with faith in eternal. Eternal self makes a person ready to serve eternal as there is no difference between two.

It is by blessing of eternal that folly of writer is being fought with.

Lastly when we talk of “Chosen one have only thought that is of Guru”, in that state we do not find any contradiction between Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.

Next page is of pictures ,some more picture will be given in another page and last page is given telling to not to bow to any other text but Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Well this proves that writer bows to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, while if we have to follow them, we have to bow to God. Just by bowing and not following what is written in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji makes a mane ritualistic.


(੮੬੩-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਗੋਂਡ ਮਹਲਾ
gonadd mehalaa 5 ||
Gond, Fifth Mehl:
8 null null


(੮੬੩-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਨਿਮਾਨੇ ਕਉ ਜੋ ਦੇਤੋ ਮਾਨੁ
nimaanae ko jo dhaetho maan ||
He grants honor to the dishonored,
9 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੩-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਸਗਲ ਭੂਖੇ ਕਉ ਕਰਤਾ ਦਾਨੁ
sagal bhookhae ko karathaa dhaan ||
and gives gifts to all the hungry;
9 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੩-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਗਰਭ ਘੋਰ ਮਹਿ ਰਾਖਨਹਾਰੁ
garabh ghor mehi raakhanehaar ||
he protects those in the terrible womb.
9 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੩-, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਤਿਸੁ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਕਉ ਸਦਾ ਨਮਸਕਾਰੁ
this thaakur ko sadhaa namasakaar ||1||
So humbly bow forever to that Lord and Master. ||1||
9 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੩-੧੦, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਐਸੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਮਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਧਿਆਇ
aiso prabh man maahi dhhiaae ||
Meditate on such a God in your mind.
10 Gond Guru Arjan Dev


(੮੬੩-੧੦, ਗੋਂਡ, )
ਘਟਿ ਅਵਘਟਿ ਜਤ ਕਤਹਿ ਸਹਾਇ ਰਹਾਉ
ghatt avaghatt jath kathehi sehaae ||1|| rehaao ||
He shall be your help and support everywhere, in good times and bad. ||1||Pause||
10 Gond Guru Arjan Dev
(Ang 863)

Here we have to bow to God only.

There is anyway a Mrayada in Hajuri Sikhs and Nihungs.

  • Never bow yor head till ground to any one but Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
  • Never behold anyone else as Guru but Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
  • Never Install any book equal to Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. On Takhats we have smaller palanquin and lower one for texts other than Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji While main object to bow are weapons. While in Nihungs, on the either side of King Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, we have ministers ie Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji on right while Shri Sarbloh Granth Sahib Ji on left.
  • Never to open a book, to study or to preach, in absence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, our eternal Guru, so that let world know that all aspect of our worldly life are under the spiritual guidance of our eternal Guru, Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
So attempt to show contradictions in text unto Tenth Master with that of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a proof of low spiritual level of some guys.

Else they would have found that there is one word only, one guide only and one thought of word (Ang 646) both in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Shri Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.

By seeing God binding with some and not in other we no longer remain the followers of Sikh God. Then we look away from Guru.

If some one looks away from Guru, without true Guru, that one is not librated.(Ang 920)

Guru is in all so is complete, while we say that Guru is only with some ideology then that Guru is not complete. Such is the case of interpretation of Gurbani by atheist , with communism mentaility.

Without the complete Guru no delivery/ salvation..Baba Nanak (Should) say this thought..(Ang 886).
 
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As seen before that it has been not possible to paste pictures in comments so the whole article dealing with the pictures is attached. Kindly have a look at it. As Website software could not upload whle the picture file so it is divided into three. Let us have first one as picture a
 

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Have look at picture b

Vijaydeep ji- What point do you want to make? How does picture c contribute to this discussion? What is the source of the information? How do we know that the source is reliable? aad0002
 

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