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Who Wants To Become A Raagi?

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal!
Dear all and Surinder Jee!

Quotation "In Gurbani word- suaaoo means- life's purpose, profit, good task, good taste....."
May God bless them too, who have understood it like that.

In my view, the word suaa-o means ashes in the referred Hymns from Gurdev. Even SADhoos want ashes. Nevertheless, one receives the true ashes when all KarmAs are burnt away by the true NAM Simran. One recognizes God Grace through the Guroo when HE transfers His True NAM to the Seeker. Blessed are those whom God awards with such ashes.

I found no where in GurbAnee contradictory messages from Gurdev. This is another sacred Vaak from Guru Jee about a RAgee.
vwdu pVY rwgI jgu BIjY ]
qRY gux ibiKAw jnim mrIjY ]
"vaad parhai raagee jag bheejai. tarai gun bikhi-aa janam mareejai." SGGS Ang 905-7, Raamkalee, Guru Nanak Dev Jee
RAgee reads vaad (spoken by someone). A world is pleased. In the faculty of three Gunas he gets birth and dies.

It is perfectly all right what people think about RAgees. All is God's Will.
It is clear to me now. The RAgees have severely influenced many than the revered Gurus.


Balbir Singh
 

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Respected Sadh Sangat Ji,


Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji De Bachan Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib De Panna# 905

hTu ingRhu kir kwieAw CIjY ]
vrqu qpnu kir mnu nhI BIjY ]
rwm nwm sir Avru n pUjY ]1]
guru syiv mnw hir jn sMgu kIjY ]
jmu jMdwru joih nhI swkY srpin fis n skY hir kw rsu pIjY ]1] rhwau ]
vwdu pVY rwgI jgu BIjY ]
qRY gux ibiKAw jnim mrIjY ]
rwm nwm ibnu dUKu shIjY ]2]
cwVis pvnu isMGwsnu BIjY ]
inaulI krm Ktu krm krIjY ]
rwm nwm ibnu ibrQw swsu lIjY ]3]
AMqir pMc Agin ikau DIrju DIjY ]
AMqir coru ikau swdu lhIjY ]
gurmuiK hoie kwieAw gVu lIjY ]4]
AMqir mYlu qIrQ BrmIjY ]
mnu nhI sUcw ikAw soc krIjY ]
ikrqu pieAw dosu kw kau dIjY ]5]
AMnu n Kwih dyhI duKu dIjY ]
ibnu gur igAwn iqRpiq nhI QIjY ]
mnmuiK jnmY jnim mrIjY ]6]
siqgur pUiC sMgiq jn kIjY ]
mnu hir rwcY nhI jnim mrIjY ]
rwm nwm ibnu ikAw krmu kIjY ]7]
aUNdr dUMdr pwis DrIjY ]
Dur kI syvw rwmu rvIjY ]
nwnk nwmu imlY ikrpw pRB kIjY ]8]5]


Here Guru Ji is Talking about those singers who sing the arguments(VAAD)(vivaad)(behus) and debates and listening to them other Manmukhs enjoy....



again Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Panna # 61

iqRsnw mwieAw mohxI suq bMDp Gr nwir ]
Din jobin jgu TigAw lib loiB AhMkwir ]
moh TgaulI hau mueI sw vrqY sMswir ]1]
myry pRIqmw mY quJ ibnu Avru n koie ]
mY quJ ibnu Avru n BwveI qUM Bwvih suKu hoie ]1] rhwau ]
nwmu swlwhI rMg isau gur kY sbid sMqoKu ]
jo dIsY so clsI kUVw mohu n vyKu ]
vwt vtwaU AwieAw inq cldw swQu dyKu ]2]
AwKix AwKih kyqVy gur ibnu bUJ n hoie ]
nwmu vfweI jy imlY sic rpY piq hoie ]
jo quDu Bwvih sy Bly Kotw Krw n koie ]3]
gur srxweI CutIAY mnmuK KotI rwis ]
Ast Dwqu pwiqswh kI GVIAY sbid ivgwis ]
Awpy prKy pwrKU pvY KjwnY rwis ]4]
qyrI kImiq nw pvY sB ifTI Toik vjwie ]
khxY hwQ n lBeI sic itkY piq pwie ]
gurmiq qUM swlwhxw horu kImiq khxu n jwie ]5]
ijqu qin nwmu n BwveI iqqu qin haumY vwdu ]
gur ibnu igAwnu n pweIAY ibiKAw dUjw swdu ]
ibnu gux kwim n AwveI mwieAw PIkw swdu ]6]
Awsw AMdir jMimAw Awsw rs ks Kwie ]
Awsw bMiD clweIAY muhy muih cotw Kwie ]
Avgix bDw mwrIAY CUtY gurmiq nwie ]7]
srby QweI eyku qUM ijau BwvY iqau rwKu ]
gurmiq swcw min vsY nwmu Blo piq swKu ]
haumY rogu gvweIAY sbid scY scu BwKu ]8]
AwkwsI pwqwil qUM iqRBvix rihAw smwie ]
Awpy BgqI Bwau qUM Awpy imlih imlwie ]
nwnk nwmu n vIsrY ijau BwvY iqvY rjwie ]9]13]


That body which does not appreciate the Naam-that body is infested with egotism and conflict. Spiritual wisdom is not obtained without the Guru, all other tastes are same as poison. Without virtue, nothing is of any use. The taste of Maya is bland and insipid.


forgive me please
 

simpy

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Respected Saadh Sangat Ji,


Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Ram Das Ji De Bachan Panna #849

hir auqmu hir pRBu gwivAw kir nwdu iblwvlu rwgu ]
aupdysu gurU suix mMinAw Duir msqik pUrw Bwgu ]
sB idnsu rYix gux aucrY hir hir hir auir ilv lwgu ]
sBu qnu mnu hirAw hoieAw mnu iKiVAw hirAw bwgu ]
AigAwnu AMDyrw imit gieAw gur cwnxu igAwnu crwgu ]
jnu nwnku jIvY dyiK hir iek inmK GVI muiK lwgu ]1]


forgive me please
 

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal!
Dear all and Surinder Jee!

Your explanation of the Guru's Vaak vwdu pVY rwgI jgu BIjY ] is "Here Guru Ji is Talking about those singers who sing the arguments(VAAD)(vivaad)(behus) and debates and listening to them other Manmukhs enjoy...."

I am wondering, your capabilities of understanding and interpreting GurbAnee.


Balbir Singh
 

simpy

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hTu ingRhu kir kwieAw CIjY ]
vrqu qpnu kir mnu nhI BIjY ]
rwm nwm sir Avru n pUjY ]1]
guru syiv mnw hir jn sMgu kIjY ]
jmu jMdwru joih nhI swkY srpin fis n skY hir kw rsu pIjY ]1] rhwau ]
vwdu pVY rwgI jgu BIjY ]
qRY gux ibiKAw jnim mrIjY ]
rwm nwm ibnu dUKu shIjY ]2]
cwVis pvnu isMGwsnu BIjY ]
inaulI krm Ktu krm krIjY ]
rwm nwm ibnu ibrQw swsu lIjY ]3]
AMqir pMc Agin ikau DIrju DIjY ]
AMqir coru ikau swdu lhIjY ]
gurmuiK hoie kwieAw gVu lIjY ]4]
AMqir mYlu qIrQ BrmIjY ]
mnu nhI sUcw ikAw soc krIjY ]
ikrqu pieAw dosu kw kau dIjY ]5]

AMnu n Kwih dyhI duKu dIjY ]
ibnu gur igAwn iqRpiq nhI QIjY ]
mnmuiK jnmY jnim mrIjY ]6]
siqgur pUiC sMgiq jn kIjY ]
mnu hir rwcY nhI jnim mrIjY ]
rwm nwm ibnu ikAw krmu kIjY ]7]
aUNdr dUMdr pwis DrIjY ]
Dur kI syvw rwmu rvIjY ]
nwnk nwmu imlY ikrpw pRB kIjY ]8]5]



 

simpy

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mnmuK pVih pMifq khwvih ]
dUjY Bwie mhw duKu pwvih ]
ibiKAw mwqy ikCu sUJY nwhI iPir iPir jUnI AwvixAw ]1]
hau vwrI jIau vwrI haumY mwir imlwvixAw ]
gur syvw qy hir min visAw hir rsu shij pIAwvixAw ]1] rhwau ]
vydu pVih hir rsu nhI AwieAw ]
vwdu vKwxih mohy mwieAw ]
AigAwnmqI sdw AMiDAwrw gurmuiK bUiJ hir gwvixAw ]2]
AkQo kQIAY sbid suhwvY ]
gurmqI min sco BwvY ]
sco scu rvih idnu rwqI iehu mnu sic rMgwvixAw ]3]
jo sic rqy iqn sco BwvY ]
Awpy dyie n pCoqwvY ]
gur kY sbid sdw scu jwqw imil scy suKu pwvixAw ]4]
kUVu kusqu iqnw mYlu n lwgY ] gur prswdI Anidnu jwgY ]
inrml nwmu vsY Gt BIqir joqI joiq imlwvixAw ]5]
qRY gux pVih hir qqu n jwxih ]
mUlhu Buly gur sbdu n pCwxih ]
moh ibAwpy ikCu sUJY nwhI gur sbdI hir pwvixAw ]6]
vydu pukwrY iqRibiD mwieAw ]
mnmuK n bUJih dUjY BwieAw ]
qRY gux pVih hir eyku n jwxih ibnu bUJy duKu pwvixAw ]7]
jw iqsu BwvY qw Awip imlwey ]
gur sbdI shsw dUKu cukwey ]
nwnk nwvY kI scI vifAweI nwmo mMin suKu pwvixAw ]8]30]31]
 

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