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Was Guru Nanak a prophet on lines of Jesus or Mohammad ? Please put some light on the issue.
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Dear Anthony Jee,
What we have in Sikh religion is the teachings of the divinities who have realised God and whom we refer too as Gurus. Our Gurus are ten in number. Guru Sahibs, unlike other religions, have compiled their teaching for we Sikhs during their own lifetime in a book form, which we refer too as Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Our tenth Guru, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee, asked we Sikhs to follow the teaching of this Granth as the Sikhs had followed his teachings and those of earlier nine Gurus. Our Guru Sahib did not leave this task of compilation of their teaching for some one else to do after his body fades away from this world. As a result, the teachings enshrined in Sri Guru Granth Sahib stand fully authenticated by our Gurus themselves.
Our Gurus through their teachings are always with us, by our side as guide, they do not stand between a Sikh and ‘The Almighty’. Sikh Gurus have not postulated any role for themselves as the intermediary between the Sikh and ‘The Almighty’. Our Gurus’ teachings tell us that each Sikh has the potential to become divine and merge with God. None of the Sikh has to go through any intermediary in her/his march towards the ultimate, the ‘Sat’. To make this very clear our Gurus have abolished even the priesthood from our religion. Our Guru Sahibs have fully empowered we Sikhs to evolve into divinity. No intermediary is needed, living a life in accordance with the teachings of Guru Sahibs as enshrined in Sri Guru Granth Sahib is enough.
Our Guru Sahib told us the meaning of human life, how it should be lived, and how one can evolve into divinity living the life of a householder. They did not translate any divine will for our future – no promised land or such things. They told us that our Karmas would bear fruits - what you sow so shall you reap.
Having a prophet, as intermediary between a Sikh and ‘The Almighty’, will negate a fundamental aspect of Sikh religion, which conceptualise God as formless – the prophet will have form.
With this, I close and leave for you to decide if Guru Nanak was a Prophet or not. You may even ponder if your question was relevant in the context of the basic/fundamental aspects of Sikh religion.
Keep asking question, we will answer to the best of our capabilities. Such questions help us to consolidate our thinking. I like it.
With Love and Respect for all
Amarpal
Let's analyze According to Bible is Guru Nanak a prophet or not.Was Guru Nanak a prophet on lines of Jesus or Mohammad ? Please put some light on the issue.
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Let's analyze According to Bible is Guru Nanak a prophet or not.
A) In John chapter 14 verse 16: Jesus says"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." this means Jesus will pray to Father & tell him to give u Another Comforter another means who is the first one that itself is Jesus & the another should also be like hi i.e.Human Being.
B) In Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:Jesus say's "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." testify means bear witness of Jesus's prophecy.
C) In Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: Jesus say's "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". it means the comforter only after Jesus goes away.
D) Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:Jesus say's I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall hespeak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". the spirit that will come he will guide you,not speak of himself * also tell the things to come & glorify Jesus.
The conditions to be met for the prophet are 1.Should be like Jesus i.e. Human being 2. Testify Jesus 3. Should come after Jesus has gone 4. Glorify Jesus,tell new things,shall not speak of himself but say what he hear.
Looking at the conditions above of the Bible Guru Nanak doesn't fit into this prophecy.
According to Quran, Quran says in Al-Ahzab, Chapter 33, Verse-40)
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last of the prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything.
So according to Quran Guru Nanak cannot be an prophet because Sikhism was an Religion founded ny Guru Nanak at the end of 15 century so he came after Muhmmad.
The above all Interpretation was according to the 2 religions as asked by u.Others can have different interpretations
Dear Tejwant SinghTruefriend ji,
Guru Fateh.
1.Can you please share with us when was the gospel of John that you have quoted written?
2.Had Apostle John ever met Jesus?
3.Who wrote the Quran?
4.Did Mohammed write it or someone else?
5.Who decided in the Quran that Mohammed would be the last prophet?
6.If it was written by someone else, was Mohammed alive then?
Lastly, Guru Nanak was not a prophet. Prophets are nothing but snake oil salesmen. Guru Nanak was a teacher to give us tools how to breed goodness within which he put into beautiful poetry.
I do not think Mohammed ever wrote a word of Quran.
Tejwant Singh
I am with you as u rightly said "Guru Nanak was a teacher to give us tools how to breed goodness within which he put into beautiful poetry." & many other too. But u cannot say that others are not or he was the only one.Truefriend ji,
Guru Fateh.
1.Can you please share with us when was the gospel of John that you have quoted written?
2.Had Apostle John ever met Jesus?
3.Who wrote the Quran?
4.Did Mohammed write it or someone else?
5.Who decided in the Quran that Mohammed would be the last prophet?
6.If it was written by someone else, was Mohammed alive then?
Lastly, Guru Nanak was not a prophet. Prophets are nothing but snake oil salesmen. Guru Nanak was a teacher to give us tools how to breed goodness within which he put into beautiful poetry.
I do not think Mohammed ever wrote a word of Quran.
Tejwant Singh
Guru Nanak was sarab kala sampooran Guru, shree Raam was 12 kala sampooran, shree Krishna was 16 kala sampooran, Mohd, was 10 kala sampooran, there is no match to Guru Nanak's path, sorry if i hurt someone's feelings but I have spoken my mind
In my simple language I would say Guru Nanak was more than a prophet, Prophet mohd. realised about his prophecy status only after his wife told him at age 35 or 40 that may be you are a prophet, because he was talking to angels etc, angel gabriel gave him some knowledge about the other world, that mean Mohd. never became one with the akal purkh, whatever he experienced came to him through angels etc, angels are other entities slightly above human beings, I beleive Mohd. was on spiritual path but he never achieved the state of "brahm gyan"which is the ultimate goal of all souls, in the begining stages of spirituality you talk to spirit guides etc. I beleive prophet Mohd's spirit guide was angel gabriel. He claimed divine status too quickly before reaching the final stage
of"brahm gyan".
On the other hand Guru Nanak was one with God from day one, there was no angels etc. guiding Guru Nanak, he was under divine will directly, there was no "purdah" betwen akal purkh and guru nanak. There are some souls who are born enlightened Shree Ram,Krishna, Jesus Christ and Guru Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh fall in this category, there are some soles who became enlightened through mediation/tapp/bhagti etc. Gautam Budha,meera bai and many other bhagats like kabeer,bhagat dhanna,bhagat ravi Daas fall in thsi category, Mohd. I beleive was on spiritual path but he did not become enlightened, I am sorry to say this but I did not get a glimpse of divinity in him,
Guru Nanak was sarab kala sampooran Guru, shree Raam was 12 kala sampooran, shree Krishna was 16 kala sampooran, Mohd, was 10 kala sampooran, there is no match to Guru Nanak's path, sorry if i hurt someone's feelings but I have spoken my mind
In my simple language I would say Guru Nanak was more than a prophet, Prophet mohd. realised about his prophecy status only after his wife told him at age 35 or 40 that may be you are a prophet, because he was talking to angels etc, angel gabriel gave him some knowledge about the other world, that mean Mohd. never became one with the akal purkh, whatever he experienced came to him through angels etc, angels are other entities slightly above human beings, I beleive Mohd. was on spiritual path but he never achieved the state of "brahm gyan"which is the ultimate goal of all souls, in the begining stages of spirituality you talk to spirit guides etc. I beleive prophet Mohd's spirit guide was angel gabriel. He claimed divine status too quickly before reaching the final stage
of"brahm gyan".
On the other hand Guru Nanak was one with God from day one, there was no angels etc. guiding Guru Nanak, he was under divine will directly, there was no "purdah" betwen akal purkh and guru nanak. There are some souls who are born enlightened Shree Ram,Krishna, Jesus Christ and Guru Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh fall in this category, there are some soles who became enlightened through mediation/tapp/bhagti etc. Gautam Budha,meera bai and many other bhagats like kabeer,bhagat dhanna,bhagat ravi Daas fall in thsi category, Mohd. I beleive was on spiritual path but he did not become enlightened, I am sorry to say this but I did not get a glimpse of divinity in him,
Guru Nanak was sarab kala sampooran Guru, shree Raam was 12 kala sampooran, shree Krishna was 16 kala sampooran, Mohd, was 10 kala sampooran, there is no match to Guru Nanak's path, sorry if i hurt someone's feelings but I have spoken my mind