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Understanding Guru As Per Granth Sahib

Honey22

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Here is another one:

mwrU mhlw 3 Gru 1
<> siqgur pRswid ]
jh bYswlih qh bYsw suAwmI jh Byjih qh jwvw ]
sB ngrI mih eyko rwjw sBy pivqu hih Qwvw ]1]
bwbw dyih vsw sc gwvw ]
jw qy shjy shij smwvw ]1] rhwau
]
burw Blw ikCu Awps qy jwinAw eyeI sgl ivkwrw ]
iehu PurmwieAw Ksm kw hoAw vrqY iehu sMswrw ]2]
ieMdRI Dwqu sbl khIAq hY ieMdRI iks qy hoeI ]
Awpy Kyl krY siB krqw AYsw bUJY koeI ]3]
gur prswdI eyk ilv lwgI duibDw qdy ibnwsI ]
jo iqsu Bwxw so siq kir mwinAw kwtI jm kI PwsI ]4]
Bxiq nwnku lyKw mwgY kvnw jw cUkw min AiBmwnw ]
qwsu qwsu Drm rwie jpqu hY pey scy kI srnw ]5]1]



Maaroo, Third Mehl, First House:
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
Wherever You seat me, there I sit, O my Lord and Master; wherever You send me, there I go.
In the entire village, there is only One King; all places are sacred. ||1||
O Baba, while I dwell in this body, let me sing Your True Praises,
that I may intuitively merge with You. ||1||Pause||
He thinks that good and bad deeds come from himself; this is the source of all evil.
Whatever happens in this world is only by the Order of our Lord and Master. ||2||
Sexual desires are so strong and compelling; where has this sexual desire come from?
The Creator Himself stages all the plays; how rare are those who realize this. ||3||
By Guru's Grace, one is lovingly focused on the One Lord, and then, duality is ended.
Whatever is in harmony with His Will, he accepts as True; the noose of Death is loosened from around his neck. ||4||
Prays Nanak, who can call him to account, when the egotistical pride of his mind has been silenced?
Even the Righteous Judge of Dharma is intimidated and afraid of him; he has entered the Sanctuary of the True Lord. ||5||1||
 

Honey22

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mwrU mhlw 1 ]
nw jwxw mUrKu hY koeI nw jwxw isAwxw ]
sdw swihb kY rMgy rwqw Anidnu nwmu vKwxw ]1]
bwbw mUrKu hw nwvY bil jwau ]
qU krqw qU dwnw bInw qyrY nwim qrwau ]1] rhwau ]
mUrKu isAwxw eyku hY eyk joiq duie nwau ]
mUrKw isir mUrKu hY ij mMny nwhI nwau ]2]
gur duAwrY nwau pweIAY ibnu siqgur plY n pwie ]
siqgur kY BwxY min vsY qw Aihinis rhY ilv lwie ]3]
rwjM rMgM rUpM mwlµ jobnu qy jUAwrI ]
hukmI bwDy pwsY Kylih caupiV eykw swrI ]4]
jig cquru isAwxw Brim Bulwxw nwau pMifq pVih gwvwrI ]
nwau ivswrih bydu smwlih ibKu BUly lyKwrI ]5]
klr KyqI qrvr kMTy bwgw pihrih kjlu JrY ]
eyhu sMswru iqsY kI koTI jo pYsY so grib jrY ]6]
rXiq rwjy khw sbwey duhu AMqir so jwsI ]
khq nwnku gur scy kI pauVI rhsI AlKu invwsI ]7]3]11]




Maaroo, First Mehl:
I do not believe that anyone is foolish; I do not believe that anyone is clever.
Imbued forever with the Love of my Lord and Master, I chant His Name, night and day. ||1||
O Baba, I am so foolish, but I am a sacrifice to the Name.
You are the Creator, You are wise and all-seeing. Through Your Name, we are carried across. ||1||Pause||
The same person is foolish and wise; the same light within has two names.
The most foolish of the foolish are those who do not believe in the Name. ||2||
Through the Guru's Gate, the Gurdwara, the Name is obtained. Without the True Guru, it is not received.
Through the Pleasure of the True Guru's Will, the Name comes to dwell in the mind, and then, night and day, one remains lovingly absorbed in the Lord. ||3||
In power, pleasures, beauty, wealth and youth, one gambles his life away.
Bound by the Hukam of God's Command, the dice are thrown; he is just a piece in the game of chess. ||4||
The world is clever and wise, but it is deluded by doubt, and forgets the Name; the Pandit, the religious scholar, studies the scriptures, but he is still a fool.
Forgetting the Name, he dwells upon the Vedas; he writes, but he is confused by his poisonous corruption. ||5||
He is like the crop planted in the salty soil, or the tree growing on the river bank, or the white clothes sprinkled with dirt.
This world is the house of desire; whoever enters it, is burnt down by egotistical pride. ||6||
Where are all the kings and their subjects? Those who are immersed in duality are destroyed.
Says Nanak, these are the steps of the ladder, of the Teachings of the True Guru; only the Unseen Lord shall remain. ||7||3||11||
 
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Dear sadeepuri,

The question that was being discussed is whether 'Baba ji' is used for Sri Guru Granth sahib or not.The direct answer to this is no. We all respect the opinion of others and that is the best way of learning.

I also feel that the term baba ji is not employed in majority of cases while addressing to SGGS ji.

The reference to the term baba in Bani is, as already explained by Pk70 ji, is perfectly correct.
It may be an address for the Father or the Lord as per the context in which it is employed. I think we should give rest to this discussion. You may continue to use as you like but we always listen to what other wants to state else the discussion would be reduced to a monologue.

SCANNED
With Regards
 
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SadeePuri

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Dear sadeepuri,

The question that was being discussed is whether 'Baba ji' is used for Sri Guru Granth sahib or not.The direct answer to this is no. We all respect the opinion of others and that is the best way of learning.

I also feel that the term baba ji is not employed in majority of cases while addressing to SGGS ji.

The reference to the term baba in Bani is, as already explained by Pk70 ji, is perfectly correct.
It may be an address for the Father or the Lord as per the context in which it is employed. I think we should give rest to this discussion. You may continue to use as you like but we always listen to what other wants to state else the discussion would be reduced to a monologue.

With Regards

Sikh80 Ji,

'JI' is used with respect, like I say Sikh80 Ji, instead of sikh80.

And term 'Baba' is used for Lord who is no different than Guru for me neech and BabaJi Himself has ingrained this truth in me kiramjant.

So for me neechanneech, BabaJi is used in BabaJi to address BabaJi.

Thanks
 

Honey22

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sikh80 said:
I think we should give rest to this discussion. You may continue to use as you like but we always listen to what other wants to state else the discussion would be reduced to a monologue.

Wow, Sikh80 Ji this means anything that you dont like or accept - must not be entertained at all by anyone else. GREAT JOB.

As many have responded so far in this thread so it had not been a monologue, By the way when one is communicating with Gurbani can it be a m.....!!!!!!!!!!

:happy::happy::happy: Sikh80 Ji Guru Ji teaches:

na hum changay bura nahi koi





 
Oct 14, 2007
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Sikh80 Ji,

'JI' is used with respect, like I say Sikh80 Ji, instead of sikh80.

And term 'Baba' is used for Lord who is no different than Guru for me neech and BabaJi Himself has ingrained this truth in me kiramjant.

So for me neechanneech, BabaJi is used in BabaJi to address BabaJi.

Thanks

ਨਾਨਕ ਰੁੰਨਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਜੇ ਰੋਵੈ ਲਾਇ ਪਿਆਰੋ ਵਾਲੇਵੇ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੋਈਐ ਰੋਵਣੁ ਸਗਲ ਬਿਕਾਰੋ ਰੋਵਣੁ ਸਗਲ ਬਿਕਾਰੋ ਗਾਫਲੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੋ ਮਾਇਆ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਰੋਵੈ ਚੰਗਾ ਮੰਦਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਇਹੁ ਤਨੁ ਏਵੈ ਖੋਵੈ ਐਥੈ ਆਇਆ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਸੀ ਕੂੜਿ ਕਰਹੁ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੋ ਨਾਨਕ ਰੁੰਨਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਜੇ ਰੋਵੈ ਲਾਇ ਪਿਆਰੋ ॥੪॥੧॥




ਬਾਬਾ = ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਰੁੰਨਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ = ਸਹੀ ਵੈਰਾਗ ਵਿਚ ਆਇਆ ਸਮਝੋ। ਵਾਲੇਵੇ ਕਾਰਣਿ = ਧਨ-ਪਦਾਰਥ ਦੀ ਖ਼ਾਤਰ। ਬਿਕਾਰੋ = ਬੇ-ਕਾਰ, ਵਿਅਰਥ। ਗਾਫਲੁ = ਬੇ-ਖ਼ਬਰ, ਲਾ-ਪਰਵਾਹ। ਖੋਵੈ = ਨਾਸ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਕੂੜਿ = ਨਾਸਵੰਤ ਜਗਤ ਦੀ ਖ਼ਾਤਰ।੪।

ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! (ਆਖ-ਵਿਛੁੜੇ ਸਨਬੰਧੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਮੌਤ ਤੇ ਤਾਂ ਹਰ ਕੋਈ ਵੈਰਾਗ ਵਿਚ ਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਇਹ ਵੈਰਾਗ ਕਿਸੇ ਅਰਥ ਨਹੀਂ) ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਉਸੇ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਨੂੰ ਸਹੀ ਵੈਰਾਗ ਵਿਚ ਆਇਆ ਜਾਣੋ, ਜੋ ਪਿਆਰ ਨਾਲ (ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੇ ਮਿਲਾਪ ਦੀ ਖ਼ਾਤਰ) ਵੈਰਾਗ ਵਿਚ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਦੁਨੀਆ ਦੇ ਧਨ ਪਦਾਰਥ ਦੀ ਖ਼ਾਤਰ ਜੋ ਰੋਵੀਦਾ ਹੈ ਉਹ ਰੋਣਾ ਸਾਰਾ ਹੀ ਵਿਅਰਥ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ।... .............................................................

Usage Of Baba or Baba ji,

The term has many connotations in Bani.

At many places Baba is used to address some third person as well as is done in the above lines. I still would prefer to see the context and then assign meaning than to make a sweeping Generalization.

Bani is in the form of poetry and hence no fixed meaning can be assigned though I agree that the term baba ji can be employed for Sri Guru Granth sahib ji as well.There are no rules in semantics that states that it cannot be so. One is free to assign the meaning to Baba as in Punjabi the word is employed for someone who is elderly and is worthy of respect.

[Note-I also do agree that I should have used ji while addressing you. But I think that you are much junior to me in age and hence I had used the term 'Dear sadeepuri' instead of sadeepuri ji. However, I note it for future .]

Regards.

 
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Usage Of Baba or Baba ji,

The term has many connotations in Bani.

At many places Baba is used to address some third person as well as is done in the above lines. I still would prefer to see the context and then assign meaning than to make a sweeping Generalization.

Bani is in the form of poetry and hence no fixed meaning can be assigned though I agree that the term baba ji can be employed for Sri Guru Granth sahib ji as well.There are no rules in semantics that states that it cannot be so. One is free to assign the meaning to Baba as in Punjabi the word is employed for someone who is elderly and is worthy of respect.

[Note-I also do agree that I should have used ji while addressing you. But I think that you are much junior to me in age and hence I had used the term 'Dear sadeepuri' instead of sadeepuri ji. However, I note it for future .]

Regards.


For forum members reference, here are the 44 times that Baba is used in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj

1. Page12 Line 17 Raag Aasaa: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਜੈ ਘਰਿ ਕਰਤੇ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਹੋਇ ॥
baabaa jai ghar karathae keerath hoe ||
O Baba: that system in which the Praises of the Creator are sung

2. Page15 Line 4 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਰਚਨਾ ਧੋਹੁ ॥
baabaa maaeiaa rachanaa dhhohu ||
O Baba, the splendor of Maya is deceptive.

3. Page15 Line 11 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਬੋਲੀਐ ਪਤਿ ਹੋਇ ॥
baabaa boleeai path hoe ||
O Baba, speak only that which will bring you honor.

4. Page16 Line 6 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਏਹੁ ਲੇਖਾ ਲਿਖਿ ਜਾਣੁ ॥
baabaa eaehu laekhaa likh jaan ||
O Baba, write such an account,

5. Page16 Line 13 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਖਾਣਾ ਖੁਸੀ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥
baabaa hor khaanaa khusee khuaar ||
O Baba, the pleasures of other foods are false.

6. Page16 Line 16 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਪੈਨਣੁ ਖੁਸੀ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥
baabaa hor painan khusee khuaar ||
O Baba, the pleasures of other clothes are false.

7. Page16 Line 18 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਚੜਣਾ ਖੁਸੀ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥
baabaa hor charranaa khusee khuaar ||
O Baba, the pleasures of other rides are false.

8. Page17 Line 2 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਸਉਣਾ ਖੁਸੀ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥
baabaa hor sounaa khusee khuaar ||
O Baba, the pleasure of other sleep is false.

9. Page17 Line 4 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਹੋਰ ਮਤਿ ਹੋਰ ਹੋਰ ॥
baabaa hor math hor hor ||
O Baba, other wisdom is useless and irrelevant.

10. Page53 Line 10 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਅਲਹੁ ਅਗਮ ਅਪਾਰੁ ॥
baabaa alahu agam apaar ||
O Baba, the Lord Allah is Inaccessible and Infinite.

11. Page60 Line 17 Raag Sriraag: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਇ ॥
baabaa maaeiaa bharam bhulaae ||
O Baba, Maya deceives with its illusion.


12. Page108 Line 3 Raag Maajh: Guru Arjan Dev

ਇਕਸੁ ਵਿਣੁ ਹੋਰੁ ਦੂਜਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਇਹ ਮਤਿ ਸਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥੪॥੩੯॥੪੬॥
eikas vin hor dhoojaa naahee baabaa naanak eih math saaree jeeo ||4||39||46||
Without the One, there is no other at all. O Baba Nanak, this is the most excellent wisdom. ||4||39||46||

13. Page155 Line 5 Raag Gaurhee Chaytee: Guru Nanak Dev

ਹਉ ਖਰੀ ਦੁਹੇਲੀ ਹੋਈ ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੀ ਬਾਤ ਨ ਪੁਛੈ ਕੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
ho kharee dhuhaelee hoee baabaa naanak maeree baath n pushhai koee ||1|| rehaao ||
I am totally miserable! O Baba Nanak, no one cares for me at all! ||1||Pause||

14. Page162 Line 7 Raag Gaurhee Bairaagan: Guru Amar Das

ਬਾਬਾ ਤੂੰ ਐਸੇ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਹੀ ॥
baabaa thoon aisae bharam chukaahee ||
O Baba, get rid of your doubts like this.

15. Page360 Line 7 Raag Aasaa: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮਨੁ ਮਤਵਾਰੋ ਨਾਮ ਰਸੁ ਪੀਵੈ ਸਹਜ ਰੰਗ ਰਚਿ ਰਹਿਆ ॥
baabaa man mathavaaro naam ras peevai sehaj rang rach rehiaa ||
O Baba, the mind is intoxicated with the Naam, drinking in its Nectar. It remains absorbed in the Lord's Love.

16. Page579 Line 9 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਨਾਨਕ ਰੁੰਨਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਜੇ ਰੋਵੈ ਲਾਇ ਪਿਆਰੋ ॥
naanak runnaa baabaa jaaneeai jae rovai laae piaaro ||
Nanak: he alone truly weeps, O Baba, who weeps in the Lord's Love.

17. Page579 Line 10 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਵਾਲੇਵੇ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੋਈਐ ਰੋਵਣੁ ਸਗਲ ਬਿਕਾਰੋ ॥
vaalaevae kaaran baabaa roeeai rovan sagal bikaaro ||
One who weeps for the sake of worldly objects, O Baba, weeps totally in vain.

18. Page579 Line 12 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਨਾਨਕ ਰੁੰਨਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਜੇ ਰੋਵੈ ਲਾਇ ਪਿਆਰੋ ॥੪॥੧॥
naanak runnaa baabaa jaaneeai jae rovai laae piaaro ||4||1||
Nanak: he alone truly weeps, O Baba, who weeps in the Lord's Love. ||4||1||

19. Page580 Line 4 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਨਾਨਕ ਕਿਸ ਨੋ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੋਈਐ ਬਾਜੀ ਹੈ ਇਹੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੋ ॥
naanak kis no baabaa roeeai baajee hai eihu sansaaro ||
Nanak: for whom should we mourn, O Baba? This world is merely a play.

20. Page580 Line 6 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਨਾਨਕ ਕਿਸ ਨੋ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੋਈਐ ਬਾਜੀ ਹੈ ਇਹੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੋ ॥੪॥੨॥
naanak kis no baabaa roeeai baajee hai eihu sansaaro ||4||2||
Nanak: for whom should we mourn, O Baba? This world is merely a play. ||4||2||

21. Page581 Line 8 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਆਇਆ ਹੈ ਉਠਿ ਚਲਣਾ ਅਧ ਪੰਧੈ ਹੈ ਸੰਸਾਰੋਵਾ ॥
baabaa aaeiaa hai outh chalanaa adhh pandhhai hai sansaarovaa ||
O Baba, he has come, and now he must get up and depart; this world is only a way-station.

22. Page581 Line 14 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਰੋਵਹਿ ਰਵਹਿ ਸੁ ਜਾਣੀਅਹਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਰੋਵੈ ਗੁਣ ਸਾਰੇਵਾ ॥
baabaa rovehi ravehi s jaaneeahi mil rovai gun saaraevaa ||
O Baba, they alone are known to truly weep and wail, who meet together and weep, chanting the Praises of the Lord.

23. Page581 Line 17 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਆਇਆ ਹੈ ਉਠਿ ਚਲਣਾ ਇਹੁ ਜਗੁ ਝੂਠੁ ਪਸਾਰੋਵਾ ॥
baabaa aaeiaa hai outh chalanaa eihu jag jhooth pasaarovaa ||
O Baba, whoever has come, will rise up and leave; this world is merely a false show.

24. Page582 Line 1 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਆਵਹੁ ਭਾਈਹੋ ਗਲਿ ਮਿਲਹ ਮਿਲਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਦੇਹ ਆਸੀਸਾ ਹੇ ॥
baabaa aavahu bhaaeeho gal mileh mil mil dhaeh aaseesaa hae ||
Come, O Baba, and Siblings of Destiny - let's join together; take me in your arms, and bless me with your prayers.

25. Page582 Line 2 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਸਚੜਾ ਮੇਲੁ ਨ ਚੁਕਈ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਕੀਆ ਦੇਹ ਅਸੀਸਾ ਹੇ ॥
baabaa sacharraa mael n chukee preetham keeaa dhaeh aseesaa hae ||
O Baba, union with the True Lord cannot be broken; bless me with your prayers for union with my Beloved.

26. Page582 Line 4 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਂਗੜਾ ਆਇਆ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਦੁਖੁ ਸੁਖੁ ਲੇਖੁ ਲਿਖਾਇਆ ॥
baabaa naangarraa aaeiaa jag mehi dhukh sukh laekh likhaaeiaa ||
O Baba, we come into the world naked, into pain and pleasure, according to the record of our account.

27. Page582 Line 8 Raag Vadhans: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਰੋਵਹੁ ਜੇ ਕਿਸੈ ਰੋਵਣਾ ਜਾਨੀਅੜਾ ਬੰਧਿ ਪਠਾਇਆ ਹੈ ॥
baabaa rovahu jae kisai rovanaa jaaneearraa bandhh pathaaeiaa hai ||
O Baba, weep and mourn if you must; the beloved soul is bound and driven off.

28. Page595 Line 11 Raag Sorith: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਸਾਥਿ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥
baabaa maaeiaa saathh n hoe ||
O Baba, the wealth of Maya does not go with anyone.

29. Page623 Line 7 Raag Sorith: Guru Arjan Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਰਣਾਈ ॥
baabaa naanak prabh saranaaee ||
Baba Nanak seeks the Sanctuary of God;

30. Page722 Line 17 Raag Tilang: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਲਗਨੁ ਗਣਾਇ ਹੰ ਭੀ ਵੰਞਾ ਸਾਹੁਰੈ ਬਲਿ ਰਾਮ ਜੀਉ ॥
baabaa lagan ganaae han bhee vannjaa saahurai bal raam jeeo ||
O Baba, calculate that auspicious moment, when I too shall be going to my in-laws' house.

31. Page870 Line 6 Raag Gond: Saint Kabir

ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
mai kiaa jaano baabaa rae ||1|| rehaao ||
What do I know, O Baba? ||1||Pause||

32. Page877 Line 10 Raag Raamkalee: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥
baabaa gorakh jaagai ||
O Baba, Gorakh is the Lord of the Universe; He is always awake and aware.

33. Page886 Line 1 Raag Raamkalee: Guru Arjan Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਆਖੈ ਏਹੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥੨॥੧੧॥
baabaa naanak aakhai eaehu beechaar ||2||11||
This is what Baba Nanak says, after deep reflection. ||2||11||

34. Page918 Line 1 Raag Raamkalee: Guru Amar Das

ਬਾਬਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਤੂ ਦੇਹਿ ਸੋਈ ਜਨੁ ਪਾਵੈ ॥
baabaa jis thoo dhaehi soee jan paavai ||
O Baba, he alone receives it, unto whom You give it.

35. Page992 Line 5 Raag Maaroo: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਸਾਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਦੂਰਿ ਨ ਦੇਖੁ ॥
baabaa saachaa saahib dhoor n dhaekh ||
O Baba, do not see your True Lord and Master as being far away.

36. Page993 Line 13 Raag Maaroo: Guru Amar Das

ਬਾਬਾ ਦੇਹਿ ਵਸਾ ਸਚ ਗਾਵਾ ॥
baabaa dhaehi vasaa sach gaavaa ||
O Baba, while I dwell in this body, let me sing Your True Praises,

36. Page994 Line 11 Raag Maaroo: Guru Amar Das

ਬਾਬਾ ਸਾਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥
baabaa saachaa saahib ridhai samaal ||
O Baba, contemplate and cherish the True Lord and Master within your heart.

38. Page1009 Line 12 Raag Maaroo: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਜਗੁ ਫਾਥਾ ਮਹਾ ਜਾਲਿ ॥
baabaa jag faathhaa mehaa jaal ||
O Baba, the world is caught in the great noose.

39. Page1010 Line 5 Raag Maaroo: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮੈ ਕੁਚੀਲੁ ਕਾਚਉ ਮਤਿਹੀਨ ॥
baabaa mai kucheel kaacho mathiheen ||
O Baba, I am filthy, shallow and totally without understanding.

40. Page1012 Line 17 Raag Maaroo: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਐਸੀ ਰਵਤ ਰਵੈ ਸੰਨਿਆਸੀ ॥
baabaa aisee ravath ravai sanniaasee ||
O Baba, this is the way of life of the Sannyaasi, the renunciate.

41. Page1015 Line 15 Raag Maaroo: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਹਾ ਨਾਵੈ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਉ ॥
baabaa moorakh haa naavai bal jaao ||
O Baba, I am so foolish, but I am a sacrifice to the Name.

42. Page1194 Line 8 Raag Basant: Saint Kabir

ਨਹੀ ਛੋਡਉ ਰੇ ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ॥
nehee shhoddo rae baabaa raam naam ||
O Baba, I will not forsake the Name of the Lord.

43. Page1328 Line 4 Raag Parbhaatee: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਮਨਿ ਸਾਚਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਚਾ ਕਹੀਐ ਤਰੀਐ ਸਾਚਾ ਹੋਈ ॥
baabaa man saachaa mukh saachaa keheeai thareeai saachaa hoee ||
O Baba, keep the True Lord in your mind, and utter the Name of the True Lord with your mouth; the True Lord will carry you across.

44. Page1331 Line 4 Raag Parbhaatee: Guru Nanak Dev

ਬਾਬਾ ਐਸਾ ਬਿਖਮ ਜਾਲਿ ਮਨੁ ਵਾਸਿਆ ॥
baabaa aisaa bikham jaal man vaasiaa ||
O Baba, such is the treacherous trap which has caught my mind;



Most of the time, Guru Nanak Dev ji uses "Baba" to refer to himself 35 times. Two other Nanaks and 1 bhagat also refer to
"Baba" on 9 occasions.: Guru Arjan Dev ji (3 times) and Guru Amardas Dev ji (4 times) as well as Bhagat Kabir (2 times.

If Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj ji is speaking in the voice of the Nanaks and the Bhagats it seems reasonable to think of Sri Guru Granth Sahib as Baba too. Or am I wrong about this? ;)


To complete the list
making it 45 times. Thank you Honey 22.

Awdysu bwbw Awdysu ]
Awid purK qyrw AMqu n pwieAw kir kir dyKih vys ]1] rhwau ]

Awdysu bwbw Awdysu ]
Awid purK qyrw AMqu n pwieAw kir kir dyKih vys ]1] rhwau ]

Hail to You, O Father Lord, Hail to You!
O Primal Lord. Your limits are not known; You create, and create, and behold the scenes. ||1||Pause||

45. Page 417 Lines 2 and 3 raag Aasaa: Guru Nanak Dev

This one confirms my suspicion that "Baba" is also the Satguru.
 

Honey22

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aad0002 Ji,
Here is another one:
Awdysu bwbw Awdysu ]
Awid purK qyrw AMqu n pwieAw kir kir dyKih vys ]1] rhwau ]


Awdysu bwbw Awdysu ]
Awid purK qyrw AMqu n pwieAw kir kir dyKih vys ]1] rhwau ]

Hail to You, O Father Lord, Hail to You!
O Primal Lord. Your limits are not known; You create, and create, and behold the scenes. ||1||Pause||

:)
 

Honey22

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another one aad0002 Ji,

panna 763: Baba main var deho.......

panna 855: Mere Baba main baoraa.......

panna 989: Baba mein karamheen.......

panna 1104: Baba ab na basaon eh gaon.......



there are even more aad0002 Ji, these are all I could think of right now.

my apologies if it looks like an interruption or becoming a monolouge:)
 
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spnadmin

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Honey 22, no problem. I don't have time to look these all up and add links to Gurbani right now. But later I will edit, and we can have a complete listing. Thank you for adding the panna for each one though. It saves time.

Thank you :D
 

Honey22

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Honey 22, no problem. I don't have time to look these all up and add links to Gurbani right now. But later I will edit, and we can have a complete listing. Thank you for adding the panna for each one though. It saves time.

Thank you :D


aad0002 Ji,

a few more along with panna #


1426: sabad akhut baba nanka

360: baba jugta jeo……..

382: baba bikh dekhya sansaar

480: baba bolte te kaha gay


:)my apologies if it looks like an interruption or becoming a monolouge:)
 
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spnadmin

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Honey22,

Not an interruption. More like an initiative. Why didn't my search engine turn these up too? Can't depend on anything. Actually thank you again. This could turn into a research project leading to an essay that a person could write for a Sikh journal like Sikh Spectrum.

Title something like "Who is Babji in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj?" They like this systematic study of a theme. That is where I found the idea about Birds and Gurbani -- in Sikh Spectrum. The birds became an SPN album and then that morphed into a thread on Punjabi vocabulary with all the animals in SGGS. It is a lot of fun actually to do this kind of thing.

:)
 

SadeePuri

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sikh80 said:
I think that you are much junior to me in age

hohoho

Sikh80 Ji,

You are doing all of the three things or one of them:

1. Guessing my age---------guess what, you are not a good guesser in my case(provided YOUR age given by you in your posts is correct and reliable).
2. You have some supernatural powers and using that------------- guess what, your powers dont work on me(provided YOUR age given by you in your posts is correct and reliable).
3. You are trying to track my identity based on my IP address--------------- guess what, your track has gone to a wrong direction(provided YOUR age given by you in your posts is correct and reliable).

ANYWAYS GUESS MY AGE: I just celebrated first birthday of my fourth grandchild:up:.

Good Luck To You Sikh80 Ji.
 

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sadee_puree

Congratulations -- a 4th grandchild is a great event! Any grandchild, any child! You must be very happy about that. :)
 
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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Respected Jios

With due respect to replies relating to saying SGGS Ji as Baba Ji

We(in our area) usually say to our children let us go to Gurdwara Sahib for bowing to Baba Ji!
{Chalo Baba Ji nu Gurdwaray matha taken chaliay}:)

Please forgive me
 

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