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I do not want to comment upon that you have stated as it lacks the depth of Punjabi. The querist has sought the difference between 'Joonie' and 'janam' .

These are not synonyms.

Jonnie = Taking births and rebirths with emphasis on transmigration from one kind of being to another like from man to cow or to elephant and then to an ant and so on and so forth.....till one reappears in the format of human being with HIS grace.
Gurmat states that there are 8.4 million kinds of such migrations/births and rebirths and jonies. Hope you are clear on this. Human joonie is stated to be the Best.

Janam= Means Simple Birth in any form.
Due to my poor english I could do that was feasible.
May be some time in the evening.[ I am in the office right now;hence cannot spend more time.]

Forgiveness for this is entreated again.
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Oh ! I see that Pk 70 has already posted something. Let it be. Two opinions are always good.
Please consult "Mahan Kosh Encyclopedia, Gurbani Dictionaries and Punjabi/English Dictionaries. ", you will find out, what you are saying, is only one kind of use of these words


Mahan Kosh Encyclopedia, Gurbani Dictionaries and Punjabi/English Dictionaries.
 
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I prefer common-sense than pure-academics PK70 ji. Feel free that you prefer to say and state.
 

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Respectfully forum members:

Source for definitions is Dictionary of Guru Granth Sahib, by Professor Surinder Singh Kholi, Publishers Singh Brothers, Amritsar 1996/2005

Joonee or juni = Birth (from the womb)
Janam(a) = Birth

And as pointed out by respected forum member pk70 ji, the meanings differ according to the way they are used in context. :)
 

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I prefer common-sense than pure-academics PK70 ji. Feel free that you prefer to say and state.

While understanding Gurbani, shear common sense is not enough, if that is what you want, please keep doing Sikh 80 jio:)
 
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:cool:That is fine pk70. We all learn the way HE Tells us. Human beings are just at HIS mercy. I am also at HIS mercy.

Best of luck to you as well.



satnam ji:cool:
 

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:cool:That is fine pk70. We all learn the way HE Tells us. Human beings are just at HIS mercy. I am also at HIS mercy.

Best of luck to you as well.



satnam ji:cool:
Thank you sir ! He tells to all better way, some time "I-force" violates something; He is nirvair, it is not possible that He tells better to some and bad others. Denying facts and throwing on the Lord is beyond my understanding. I wish you all the best though :)
 
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Pk70 ji,

it is also fine.
May He bless you with the understanding that we are all at different levels. May be you are at much higher level and i am a novice. I am sure that I am a novice only. Hence I seek the path that He tells me.

I do seek guidance from you much more than any body else but that hardly deprives me of the right to maintain some views or form them with passage of time. You have been kind enough to tell me as to how we can employ 'jeo'. I am grateful .

plus

We all have different roots and we differ at times. It is also o.k. I shall share with you that you intend me to do. Kindly give me some time.

I shall always ask for the prerogative to seek your blessings and guidance as and when need arises and hope you shall be as graceful and kind as you have been.

satnam ji.:)
 

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On Srigranth.org, use the word reincarnate to search the folowing shabads came up! lets evaluate each for its translation!
 

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</B>Page 26, Line 17
ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਗੁਰ ਸੁਖੁ ਨ ਪਾਵਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੋਨੀ ਪਾਹਿ ॥੩॥
बिनु सतगुर सुखु न पावई फिरि फिरि जोनी पाहि ॥३॥
Bin saṯgur sukẖ na pāv▫ī fir fir jonī pāhi. ||3||
But without the True Guru, you will not find peace; you will be reincarnated over and over again. ||3||
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 69, Line 19
ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ਮਰਿ ਜੰਮਹਿ ਵਾਰੋ ਵਾਰ ॥੫॥
बिरथा जनमु गवाइआ मरि जमहि वारो वार ॥५॥
Birthā janam gavā▫i▫ā mar jamėh vāro vār. ||5||
They waste their lives uselessly; they die and are reincarnated over and over again. ||5||
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 70, Line 18
ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਸਰਪ ਕੀ ਜੂਨਿ ਗਇਆ ॥੬॥
चिति न आइओ पारब्रहमु ता सरप की जूनि गइआ ॥६॥
Cẖiṯ na ā▫i▫o pārbarahm ṯā sarap kī jūn ga▫i▫ā. ||6||
and yet, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall be reincarnated as a snake. ||6||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 128, Line 2
ਬਿਖਿਆ ਮਾਤੇ ਕਿਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੂਨੀ ਆਵਣਿਆ ॥੧॥
बिखिआ माते किछु सूझै नाही फिरि फिरि जूनी आवणिआ ॥१॥
Bikẖi▫ā māṯe kicẖẖ sūjẖai nāhī fir fir jūnī āvaṇi▫ā. ||1||
Intoxicated with vice, they understand nothing at all. They are reincarnated, over and over again. ||1||
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 162, Line 14
ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਨ ਚੀਨਿਓ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੋਨੀ ਪਾਇ ॥੨॥
गुर का सबदु न चीनिओ फिरि फिरि जोनी पाइ ॥२॥
Gur kā sabaḏ na cẖīni▫o fir fir jonī pā▫e. ||2||
They do not realize the Word of the Guru's Shabad; they are reincarnated over and over again. ||2||
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 163, Line 4
ਗਰਭ ਜੋਨੀ ਵਾਸੁ ਪਾਇਦੇ ਗਰਭੇ ਗਲਿ ਜਾਣੇ ॥
गरभ जोनी वासु पाइदे गरभे गलि जाणे ॥
Garabẖ jonī vās pā▫iḏe garbẖe gal jāṇe.
They are cast into the womb to be reincarnated, and within the womb, they rot.
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 214, Line 8
ਨਰਕੁ ਸੁਰਗੁ ਦੁਇ ਭੁੰਚਨਾ ਹੋਇ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥੨॥
नरकु सुरगु दुइ भुंचना होइ बहुरि बहुरि अवतार ॥२॥
Narak surag ḏu▫e bẖuncẖanā ho▫e bahur bahur avṯār. ||2||
You are subject to both heaven and hell, and you are reincarnated over and over again. ||2||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 224, Line 1
ਪੁਨਰਪਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਉ ॥੫॥
पुनरपि जनमु नाही गुण गाउ ॥५॥
Punrap janam nāhī guṇ gā▫o. ||5||
Such a person is not reincarnated again; he sings the Glories of God. ||5||
Guru Nanak Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 252, Line 18
ਏਕਹਿ ਆਵਨ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੋਨਿ ਨ ਆਇਆ ॥
एकहि आवन फिरि जोनि न आइआ ॥
Ėkėh āvan fir jon na ā▫i▫ā.
They are born only once - they shall not be reincarnated again.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 261, Line 7
ਖੇਲਤ ਖੇਲਤ ਆਇਓ ਅਨਿਕ ਜੋਨਿ ਦੁਖ ਪਾਇ ॥
खेलत खेलत आइओ अनिक जोनि दुख पाइ ॥
Kẖelaṯ kẖelaṯ ā▫i▫o anik jon ḏukẖ pā▫e.
Playing, playing, I have been reincarnated countless times, but this has only brought pain.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 276, Line 6
ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਬਹੁ ਜੋਨੀ ਫਿਰਹਿ ॥
कई कोटि बहु जोनी फिरहि ॥
Ka▫ī kot baho jonī firėh.
Many millions are reincarnated, over and over again.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 278, Line 14
ਨਰਕ ਸੁਰਗ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥
नरक सुरग फिरि फिरि अवतार ॥
Narak surag fir fir avṯār.
he shall be reincarnated into heaven and hell, over and over again.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 279, Line 13
ਸੰਤ ਕੀ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥੧॥
संत की निंदा नानका बहुरि बहुरि अवतार ॥१॥
Sanṯ kī ninḏā nānkā bahur bahur avṯār. ||1||
One who slanders the Saints, O Nanak, shall be reincarnated over and over again. ||1||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 279, Line 17
ਸੰਤਨ ਕੈ ਦੂਖਨਿ ਸਰਪ ਜੋਨਿ ਪਾਇ ॥
संतन कै दूखनि सरप जोनि पाइ ॥
Sanṯan kai ḏūkẖan sarap jon pā▫e.
Slandering the Saints, one is reincarnated as a snake.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 279, Line 18
ਸੰਤ ਕੈ ਦੂਖਨਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਗਦ ਜੋਨਿ ਕਿਰਮਾਇ ॥
संत कै दूखनि त्रिगद जोनि किरमाइ ॥
Sanṯ kai ḏūkẖan ṯarigaḏ jon kirmā▫e.
Slandering the Saints, one is reincarnated as a wiggling worm.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 298, Line 13
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮਿ ਬਿਸਾਰਿਐ ਨਰਕ ਸੁਰਗ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥੯॥
नानक नामि बिसारिऐ नरक सुरग अवतार ॥९॥
Nānak nām bisāri▫ai narak surag avṯār. ||9||
O Nanak, forgetting the Naam, he is reincarnated into heaven and hell. ||9||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 299, Line 11
ਆਵਤ ਜਾਤ ਨਰਕ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥
आवत जात नरक अवतार ॥
Āvaṯ jāṯ narak avṯār.
It comes and goes, and is reincarnated in hell.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 313, Line 9
ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਮਨੂਆ ਨਾ ਟਿਕੈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੂਨੀ ਪਾਇ ॥
बिनु गुर मनूआ ना टिकै फिरि फिरि जूनी पाइ ॥
Bin gur manū▫ā nā tikai fir fir jūnī pā▫e.
Without the Guru, his mind is not held steady, and he is reincarnated, over and over again.
Guru Ram Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 335, Line 1
ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਾ ਕਉ ਪੁਨਰਪਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਨਹੀ ਖੇਲਿ ਗਇਓ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ॥੪॥੨॥੫੩॥
कहु कबीर ता कउ पुनरपि जनमु नही खेलि गइओ बैरागी ॥४॥२॥५३॥
Kaho Kabīr ṯā ka▫o punrap janam nahī kẖel ga▫i▫o bairāgī. ||4||2||53||
Says Kabeer, the bairaagee, the renunciate, who has played such a game, is not reincarnated again into the world of form and substance. ||4||2||53||
Devotee Kabir - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 356, Line 7
ਏਤੁ ਮੋਹਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੂਨੀ ਪਾਹਿ ॥
एतु मोहि फिरि जूनी पाहि ॥
Ėṯ mohi fir jūnī pāhi.
In this attachment, people are reincarnated over and over again.
Guru Nanak Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 385, Line 15
ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਉਤਾਰ ॥੨॥
नरकि सुरगि फिरि फिरि अउतार ॥२॥
Narak surag fir fir a▫uṯār. ||2||
they say that mortals are reincarnated into heaven and hell, over and over again. ||2||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 389, Line 7
ਨਰਕ ਸੁਰਗ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਉਤਾਰਾ ॥੩॥
नरक सुरग फिरि फिरि अउतारा ॥३॥
Narak surag fir fir a▫uṯārā. ||3||
The mortal is reincarnated, again and again, into heaven and hell. ||3||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 401, Line 11
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਉ ਸਾਧਸੰਗੁ ਪਾਇਓ ਤਉ ਫਿਰਿ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਆਵਉ ॥੪॥੧॥੧੨੧॥
कहु नानक जउ साधसंगु पाइओ तउ फिरि जनमि न आवउ ॥४॥१॥१२१॥
Kaho Nānak ja▫o sāḏẖsang pā▫i▫o ṯa▫o fir janam na āva▫o. ||4||1||121||
Says Nanak, now that I have obtained the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, I shall not have to be reincarnated again. ||4||1||121||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 403, Line 2
ਦੀਈ ਭਵਾਰੀ ਪੁਰਖਿ ਬਿਧਾਤੈ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਜਨਮਾਧੇ ॥੩॥
दीई भवारी पुरखि बिधातै बहुरि बहुरि जनमाधे ॥३॥
Ḏī▫ī bẖavārī purakẖ biḏẖāṯai bahur bahur janmāḏẖe. ||3||
The All-powerful Architect of Destiny has ordained that you shall be reincarnated over and over again. ||3||
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 407, Line 19
ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵੈ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥
जो प्रभ भावै जनमि न आवै ॥
Jo parabẖ bẖāvai janam na āvai.
One who is pleasing to God shall not be reincarnated again.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 423, Line 5
ਤਾ ਕਾ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਨ ਬੂਝੈ ਬਪੁੜਾ ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਅਵਤਾਰੀ ॥੬॥
ता का हुकमु न बूझै बपुड़ा नरकि सुरगि अवतारी ॥६॥
Ŧā kā hukam na būjẖai bapuṛā narak surag avṯārī. ||6||
The wretched one does not understand His Command, and is reincarnated into heaven and hell. ||6||
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 434, Line 4
ਯਯੈ ਜਨਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਵੀ ਕਦ ਹੀ ਜੇ ਕਰਿ ਸਚੁ ਪਛਾਣੈ ॥
ययै जनमु न होवी कद ही जे करि सचु पछाणै ॥
Ya▫yai janam na hovī kaḏ hī je kar sacẖ pacẖẖāṇai.
Yaya: He is never reincarnated again, if he recognizes the True Lord.
Guru Nanak Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 461, Line 10
ਕੂੜੁ ਕਪਟੁ ਕਮਾਵਦੜੇ ਜਨਮਹਿ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥
कूड़ु कपटु कमावदड़े जनमहि संसारा ॥
Kūṛ kapat kamāvḏaṛe janmėh sansārā.
Those who practice falsehood and deceit are reincarnated in the world.
Guru Arjan Dev - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 476, Line 6
ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਜਿਸੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟੈ ਪੁਨਰਪਿ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥੪॥੨॥
कहु कबीर जिसु सतिगुरु भेटै पुनरपि जनमि न आवै ॥४॥२॥
Kaho Kabīr jis saṯgur bẖetai punrap janam na āvai. ||4||2||
Says Kabeer, one who meets the True Guru, is not reincarnated again. ||4||2||
Devotee Kabir - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]Page 483, Line 11
ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਫਿਰਿ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥੩॥੮॥੩੦॥
कहि कबीर फिरि जनमि न आवै ॥३॥८॥३०॥
Kahi Kabīr fir janam na āvai. ||3||8||30||
Says Kabeer, she shall not have to be reincarnated again. ||3||8||30||
Devotee Kabir - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]
 
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First shabad from list!
ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ
सिरीरागु महला ३ ॥
Sirīrāg mėhlā 3.
Sri Rag, First Guru.
ਸਿਰੀ ਰਾਗ, ਤੀਜੀ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀ।

ਬਹੁ ਭੇਖ ਕਰਿ ਭਰਮਾਈਐ ਮਨਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਕਪਟੁ ਕਮਾਇ
बहु भेख करि भरमाईऐ मनि हिरदै कपटु कमाइ ॥
Baho bẖekẖ kar bẖarmā▫ī▫ai man hirḏai kapat kamā▫e.
Those who put on many garbs and wander about, but with their heart and mind practise deception.
ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਬਹੁਤੇ ਭੇਖ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਦੇ ਤੇ ਬਾਹਰ ਭਰਮਦੇ ਹਨ। ਪ੍ਰੰਤੂ ਆਪਦੇ ਦਿਲ ਤੇ ਚਿੱਤ ਨਾਲ ਠੱਗੀ ਠੋਰੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ।

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਮਹਲੁ ਪਾਵਈ ਮਰਿ ਵਿਸਟਾ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੧॥
हरि का महलु न पावई मरि विसटा माहि समाइ ॥१॥
Har kā mahal na pāv▫ī mar vistā māhi samā▫e. ||1||
They obtain not God's house (presence) and merge in ordure after death.
ਉਹ ਰੱਬ ਦੇ ਘਰ (ਹਜ਼ੂਰੀ) ਨੂੰ ਪਰਾਪਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦੇ ਅਤੇ ਮਰਨ ਪਿਛੋਂ ਗੰਦਗੀ ਅੰਦਰ ਗ਼ਰਕ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ।

ਮਨ ਰੇ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ਉਦਾਸੁ
मन रे ग्रिह ही माहि उदासु ॥
Man re garih hī māhi uḏās.
In thy own house, O My soul remain detached from the world.
ਆਪਣੇ ਘਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੀ, ਹੈ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਤਮਾ! ਸੰਸਾਰ ਵਲੋ ਉਪ੍ਰਾਮ ਰਹੁ।

ਸਚੁ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਕਰਣੀ ਸੋ ਕਰੇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹੋਇ ਪਰਗਾਸੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ
सचु संजमु करणी सो करे गुरमुखि होइ परगासु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Sacẖ sanjam karṇī so kare gurmukẖ ho▫e pargās. ||1|| rahā▫o.
He who has been enlightened by Guru's instruction, practises righteousness, self mortification and virtuous actions. Pause.
ਗੁਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਉਦੇਸ਼ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ, ਉਹ ਸੱਚਾਈ, ਸਾਧਨਾ ਅਤੇ ਨੇਕ ਅਮਲ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਠਹਿਰਾਉ।

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਨੁ ਜੀਤਿਆ ਗਤਿ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਘਰੈ ਮਹਿ ਪਾਇ
गुर कै सबदि मनु जीतिआ गति मुकति घरै महि पाइ ॥
Gur kai sabaḏ man jīṯi▫ā gaṯ mukaṯ gẖarai mėh pā▫e.
The mortal, who by Guru's instructions conquers his mind, obtains salvation and deliverance in his own home.
ਗੁਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਜਿਹੜਾ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨੁਏ ਨੂੰ ਜਿੱਤ ਲੈਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਉਹ ਮੋਖ਼ਸ਼ ਤੇ ਕਲਿਆਣ ਨੂੰ ਆਪਣੇ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਅੰਦਰ ਹੀ ਪਾ ਲੈਂਦਾ ਹੈ।

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਮੇਲਿ ਮਿਲਾਇ ॥੨॥
हरि का नामु धिआईऐ सतसंगति मेलि मिलाइ ॥२॥
Har kā nām ḏẖi▫ā▫ī▫ai saṯsangaṯ mel milā▫e. ||2||
Joining the union of the society of Saints, meditate on the Name of God.
ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੇ ਮਿਲਾਪ ਵਿੱਚ ਜੁੜ ਕੇ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਦਾ ਆਰਾਧਨ ਕਰ।

ਜੇ ਲਖ ਇਸਤਰੀਆ ਭੋਗ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਵ ਖੰਡ ਰਾਜੁ ਕਮਾਹਿ
जे लख इसतरीआ भोग करहि नव खंड राजु कमाहि ॥
Je lakẖ isṯarī▫ā bẖog karahi nav kẖand rāj kamāhi.
Even though, thou cohabit with hundreds of thousands of ladies and rule over the nine regions of the world.
ਭਾਵੇਂ ਤੂੰ ਲੱਖਾਂ ਹੀ ਤ੍ਰੀਮਤਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਭੋਗ ਬਿਲਾਸ ਕਰੇ ਅਤੇ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਦੇ ਨੌ ਖਿੱਤਿਆਂ ਤੇ ਹਕੂਮਤ ਕਰੇ।

ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਗੁਰ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੋਨੀ ਪਾਹਿ ॥੩॥
बिनु सतगुर सुखु न पावई फिरि फिरि जोनी पाहि ॥३॥
Bin saṯgur sukẖ na pāv▫ī fir fir jonī pāhi. ||3||
Even then, without the True Guru, thou shalt not obtain happiness and receive births over and over again.
ਫਿਰ ਭੀ ਸੱਚੇ ਗੁਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਬਗੈਰ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਖੁਸ਼ੀ ਪਰਾਪਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋਣੀ ਅਤੇ ਤੂੰ ਮੁੜ ਮੁੜ ਕੇ ਜੂਨੀਆਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਪਏਗਾ।

ਹਰਿ ਹਾਰੁ ਕੰਠਿ ਜਿਨੀ ਪਹਿਰਿਆ ਗੁਰ ਚਰਣੀ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇ
हरि हारु कंठि जिनी पहिरिआ गुर चरणी चितु लाइ ॥
Har hār kanṯẖ jinī pahiri▫ā gur cẖarṇī cẖiṯ lā▫e.
Wealth and supernatural powers follow those, though they care them not even to a sesame's extent,
ਧਨ ਤੇ ਕਰਾਮਾਤੀ ਸ਼ਕਤੀਆਂ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਪਿਛੇ ਲੱਗੀਆਂ ਫਿਰਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ, ਭਾਵੇਂ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਭੋਰਾ ਭੀ ਚਾਹ ਨਹੀਂ,

ਤਿਨਾ ਪਿਛੈ ਰਿਧਿ ਸਿਧਿ ਫਿਰੈ ਓਨਾ ਤਿਲੁ ਤਮਾਇ ॥੪॥
तिना पिछै रिधि सिधि फिरै ओना तिलु न तमाइ ॥४॥
Ŧinā picẖẖai riḏẖ siḏẖ firai onā ṯil na ṯamā▫e. ||4||
who wear round their neck God's Necklace and fix their mind on Guru's feet.
ਜਿਹੜੇ ਗਲੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਮਾਲਾ ਪਹਿਨਦੇ ਹਨ ਅਤੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਮਨ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਾਂ ਦੇ ਚਰਨਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਜੋੜਦੇ ਹਨ।

ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਥੀਐ ਅਵਰੁ ਕਰਣਾ ਜਾਇ
जो प्रभ भावै सो थीऐ अवरु न करणा जाइ ॥
Jo parabẖ bẖāvai so thī▫ai avar na karṇā jā▫e.
Whatever pleases the Lord, that comes to pass, nothing else can be done.
ਜਿਹੜਾ ਕੁਝ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਨੂੰ ਚੰਗਾ ਲੱਗਦਾ ਹੈ, ਉਹੀ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਹੋਰ ਕੁਛ ਕੀਤਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ।

ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜੀਵੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਲੈ ਹਰਿ ਦੇਵਹੁ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਭਾਇ ॥੫॥੨॥੩੫॥
जनु नानकु जीवै नामु लै हरि देवहु सहजि सुभाइ ॥५॥२॥३५॥
Jan Nānak jīvai nām lai har ḏevhu sahj subẖā▫e. ||5||2||35||
Slave Nanak lives by repeating the Name. O Lord! by Thine natural disposition, grant (that to me.)
ਗੁਲਾਮ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮ ਉਚਾਰਨ ਕਰਕੇ ਜੀਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਹੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! ਆਪਣੇ ਕੁਦਰਤੀ ਸੁਭਾਅ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ (ਇਸ ਦੀ ਮੈਨੂੰ) ਦਾਤ ਬਖਸ਼।
 
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Dear ax057,
I am a learner like you. I am not a practitioner. Learning has been a very slow process for me even though I know basic Gurmukhi.

I have posted the links for 'janam' after feeding in Gurmukhi in the search facility at the site suggested by you. I did paste these links on MS word file. The first link for 'Janam' works fine with my browser.
['Janam' besides the usual meaning of Birth also stands for "Life' as well. It is seemingly a Hindi word as well. ]

The second link is for 'juni'. But it is erratic. Yes, of course, I want to help you out.You have put in lot of labor. I know that link would not work with your browser as well. Do forgive me right now. I shall try to paste some lines when I sit tomorrow evening at this time.

In the meantime, kindly tell me if you know Punjabi and It shall facilitate the job at my end.

I see that you have also put in lot of labor.Pl. do inform me if it has worked on your computer.

Regards!
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ax0547

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My view is that translater is mixing "fer fer" with "fir fir". The first is "again and again" and second is "wondring and wondring". Her it is fir fir due to the siari not laan. This is how fer fer is spelled - ਫੇਰ ਫੇਰ = again and again.

ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਗੁਰ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਜੋਨੀ ਪਾਹਿ ॥੩॥

ਬਿਨੁ = without
ਸਤਗੁਰ = true guru
ਸੁਖੁ = happiness
= no/not
ਪਾਵਈ = achieve/get
ਫਿਰਿ = wondering
ਫਿਰਿ = wondering
ਜੋਨੀ = birth through womb
ਪਾਹਿ = get/acheive

Here one is not able to come to conlusion that is Guru sahib talking about past or future.
 

ax0547

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It would make more sense to take the line in past tense, since it is in coherence with res of shabad. in the lines above this line guru sahib is talking about liberations and how it is achieved. Then in this stanza guru sahib says that you may have all pleasure and kingdoms but still real hapiness does not come without true guru, wondring wondering you have got birth through womb.
 

ax0547

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I do know punjabi!
 

ax0547

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ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ
सिरीरागु महला ३ ॥
Sirīrāg mėhlā 3.
Siree Raag, Third Mehl:

ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਸੇਵਿਐ ਮਨੁ ਨਿਰਮਲਾ ਭਏ ਪਵਿਤੁ ਸਰੀਰ
सतिगुरि सेविऐ मनु निरमला भए पवितु सरीर ॥
Saṯgur sevi▫ai man nirmalā bẖa▫e paviṯ sarīr.
Serving the True Guru, the mind becomes immaculate, and the body becomes pure.

ਮਨਿ ਆਨੰਦੁ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਭੇਟਿਆ ਗਹਿਰ ਗੰਭੀਰੁ
मनि आनंदु सदा सुखु पाइआ भेटिआ गहिर ग्मभीरु ॥
Man ānanḏ saḏā sukẖ pā▫i▫ā bẖeti▫ā gahir gambẖīr.
The mind obtains bliss and eternal peace, meeting with the Deep and Profound Lord.

ਸਚੀ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਸਣਾ ਸਚਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਮਨੁ ਧੀਰ ॥੧॥
सची संगति बैसणा सचि नामि मनु धीर ॥१॥
Sacẖī sangaṯ baisṇā sacẖ nām man ḏẖīr. ||1||
Sitting in the Sangat, the True Congregation, the mind is comforted and consoled by the True Name. ||1||

ਮਨ ਰੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਿ ਨਿਸੰਗੁ
मन रे सतिगुरु सेवि निसंगु ॥
Man re saṯgur sev nisang.
O mind, serve the True Guru without hesitation.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਿਐ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਲਗੈ ਮੈਲੁ ਪਤੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ
सतिगुरु सेविऐ हरि मनि वसै लगै न मैलु पतंगु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Saṯgur sevi▫ai har man vasai lagai na mail paṯang. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Serving the True Guru, the Lord abides within the mind, and no trace of filth shall attach itself to you. ||1||Pause||

ਸਚੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਪਤਿ ਊਪਜੈ ਸਚੇ ਸਚਾ ਨਾਉ
सचै सबदि पति ऊपजै सचे सचा नाउ ॥
Sacẖai sabaḏ paṯ ūpjai sacẖe sacẖā nā▫o.
From the True Word of the Shabad comes honor. True is the Name of the True One.

ਜਿਨੀ ਹਉਮੈ ਮਾਰਿ ਪਛਾਣਿਆ ਹਉ ਤਿਨ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੈ ਜਾਉ
जिनी हउमै मारि पछाणिआ हउ तिन बलिहारै जाउ ॥
Jinī ha▫umai mār pacẖẖāṇi▫ā ha▫o ṯin balihārai jā▫o.
I am a sacrifice to those who conquer their ego and recognize the Lord.

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਸਚੁ ਜਾਣਨੀ ਤਿਨ ਠਉਰ ਕਤਹੂ ਥਾਉ ॥੨॥
मनमुख सचु न जाणनी तिन ठउर न कतहू थाउ ॥२॥
Manmukẖ sacẖ na jāṇnī ṯin ṯẖa▫ur na kaṯhū thā▫o. ||2||
The self-willed manmukhs do not know the True One; they find no shelter, and no place of rest anywhere. ||2||

ਸਚੁ ਖਾਣਾ ਸਚੁ ਪੈਨਣਾ ਸਚੇ ਹੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਵਾਸੁ
सचु खाणा सचु पैनणा सचे ही विचि वासु ॥
Sacẖ kẖāṇā sacẖ painṇā sacẖe hī vicẖ vās.
Those who take the Truth as their food and the Truth as their clothing, have their home in the True One.

ਸਦਾ ਸਚਾ ਸਾਲਾਹਣਾ ਸਚੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ
सदा सचा सालाहणा सचै सबदि निवासु ॥
Saḏā sacẖā salāhṇā sacẖai sabaḏ nivās.
They constantly praise the True One, and in the True Word of the Shabad they have their dwelling.

ਸਭੁ ਆਤਮ ਰਾਮੁ ਪਛਾਣਿਆ ਗੁਰਮਤੀ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥
सभु आतम रामु पछाणिआ गुरमती निज घरि वासु ॥३॥
Sabẖ āṯam rām pacẖẖāṇi▫ā gurmaṯī nij gẖar vās. ||3||
They recognize the Lord, the Supreme Soul in all, and through the Guru's Teachings they dwell in the home of their own inner self. ||3||

ਸਚੁ ਵੇਖਣੁ ਸਚੁ ਬੋਲਣਾ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਸਚਾ ਹੋਇ
सचु वेखणु सचु बोलणा तनु मनु सचा होइ ॥
Sacẖ vekẖaṇ sacẖ bolṇā ṯan man sacẖā ho▫e.
They see the Truth, and they speak the Truth; their bodies and minds are True.

ਸਚੀ ਸਾਖੀ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸਚੁ ਸਚੇ ਸਚੀ ਸੋਇ
सची साखी उपदेसु सचु सचे सची सोइ ॥
Sacẖī sākẖī upḏes sacẖ sacẖe sacẖī so▫e.
True are their teachings, and True are their instructions; True are the reputations of the true ones.

ਜਿੰਨੀ ਸਚੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਸੇ ਦੁਖੀਏ ਚਲੇ ਰੋਇ ॥੪॥
जिंनी सचु विसारिआ से दुखीए चले रोइ ॥४॥
Jinnī sacẖ visāri▫ā se ḏukẖī▫e cẖale ro▫e. ||4||
Those who have forgotten the True One are miserable-they depart weeping and wailing. ||4||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਜਿਨੀ ਸੇਵਿਓ ਸੇ ਕਿਤੁ ਆਏ ਸੰਸਾਰਿ
सतिगुरु जिनी न सेविओ से कितु आए संसारि ॥
Saṯgur jinī na sevi▫o se kiṯ ā▫e sansār.
Those who have not served the True Guru-why did they even bother to come into the world?

ਜਮ ਦਰਿ ਬਧੇ ਮਾਰੀਅਹਿ ਕੂਕ ਸੁਣੈ ਪੂਕਾਰ
जम दरि बधे मारीअहि कूक न सुणै पूकार ॥
Jam ḏar baḏẖe mārī▫ah kūk na suṇai pūkār.
They are bound and gagged and beaten at Death's door, but no one hears their shrieks and cries.

ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ਮਰਿ ਜੰਮਹਿ ਵਾਰੋ ਵਾਰ ॥੫॥
बिरथा जनमु गवाइआ मरि जमहि वारो वार ॥५॥
Birthā janam gavā▫i▫ā mar jamėh vāro vār. ||5||
They waste their lives uselessly; they die and are reincarnated over and over again. ||5||
ਏਹੁ ਜਗੁ ਜਲਤਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਕੈ ਭਜਿ ਪਏ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਰਣਾ
एहु जगु जलता देखि कै भजि पए सतिगुर सरणा ॥
Ėhu jag jalṯā ḏekẖ kai bẖaj pa▫e saṯgur sarṇā.
Seeing this world on fire, I rushed to the Sanctuary of the True Guru.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਸਚੁ ਦਿੜਾਇਆ ਸਦਾ ਸਚਿ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਰਹਣਾ
सतिगुरि सचु दिड़ाइआ सदा सचि संजमि रहणा ॥
Saṯgur sacẖ ḏiṛā▫i▫ā saḏā sacẖ sanjam rahṇā.
The True Guru has implanted the Truth within me; I dwell steadfastly in Truth and self-restraint.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਚਾ ਹੈ ਬੋਹਿਥਾ ਸਬਦੇ ਭਵਜਲੁ ਤਰਣਾ ॥੬॥
सतिगुर सचा है बोहिथा सबदे भवजलु तरणा ॥६॥
Saṯgur sacẖā hai bohithā sabḏe bẖavjal ṯarṇā. ||6||
The True Guru is the Boat of Truth; in the Word of the Shabad, we cross over the terrifying world-ocean. ||6||

ਲਖ ਚਉਰਾਸੀਹ ਫਿਰਦੇ ਰਹੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਹੋਈ
लख चउरासीह फिरदे रहे बिनु सतिगुर मुकति न होई ॥
Lakẖ cẖa▫orāsīh firḏe rahe bin saṯgur mukaṯ na ho▫ī.
People continue wandering through the cycle of 8.4 million incarnations; without the True Guru, liberation is not obtained.

ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੋਨੀ ਥਕੇ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਾਇ ਪਤਿ ਖੋਈ
पड़ि पड़ि पंडित मोनी थके दूजै भाइ पति खोई ॥
Paṛ paṛ pandiṯ monī thake ḏūjai bẖā▫e paṯ kẖo▫ī.
Reading and studying, the Pandits and the silent sages have grown weary, but attached to the love of duality, they have lost their honor.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਚੇ ਅਵਰੁ ਕੋਈ ॥੭॥
सतिगुरि सबदु सुणाइआ बिनु सचे अवरु न कोई ॥७॥
Saṯgur sabaḏ suṇā▫i▫ā bin sacẖe avar na ko▫ī. ||7||
The True Guru teaches the Word of the Shabad; without the True One, there is no other at all. ||7||

ਜੋ ਸਚੈ ਲਾਏ ਸੇ ਸਚਿ ਲਗੇ ਨਿਤ ਸਚੀ ਕਾਰ ਕਰੰਨਿ
जो सचै लाए से सचि लगे नित सची कार करंनि ॥
Jo sacẖai lā▫e se sacẖ lage niṯ sacẖī kār karann.
Those who are linked by the True One are linked to Truth. They always act in Truth.

ਤਿਨਾ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸਾ ਪਾਇਆ ਸਚੈ ਮਹਲਿ ਰਹੰਨਿ
तिना निज घरि वासा पाइआ सचै महलि रहंनि ॥
Ŧinā nij gẖar vāsā pā▫i▫ā sacẖai mahal rahann.
They attain their dwelling in the home of their own inner being, and they abide in the Mansion of Truth.

ਨਾਨਕ ਭਗਤ ਸੁਖੀਏ ਸਦਾ ਸਚੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਚੰਨਿ ॥੮॥੧੭॥੮॥੨੫॥
नानक भगत सुखीए सदा सचै नामि रचंनि ॥८॥१७॥८॥२५॥
Nānak bẖagaṯ sukẖī▫e saḏā sacẖai nām racẖann. ||8||17||8||25||
O Nanak, the devotees are happy and peaceful forever. They are absorbed in the True Name. ||8||17||8||25||


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ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ
सिरीरागु महला ५ ॥
Sirīrāg mėhlā 5.
Siree Raag, Fifth Mehl:

ਜਾ ਕਉ ਮੁਸਕਲੁ ਅਤਿ ਬਣੈ ਢੋਈ ਕੋਇ ਦੇਇ
जा कउ मुसकलु अति बणै ढोई कोइ न देइ ॥
Jā ka▫o muskal aṯ baṇai dẖo▫ī ko▫e na ḏe▫e.
When you are confronted with terrible hardships, and no one offers you any support,

ਲਾਗੂ ਹੋਏ ਦੁਸਮਨਾ ਸਾਕ ਭਿ ਭਜਿ ਖਲੇ
लागू होए दुसमना साक भि भजि खले ॥
Lāgū ho▫e ḏusmanā sāk bẖė bẖaj kẖale.
when your friends turn into enemies, and even your relatives have deserted you,

ਸਭੋ ਭਜੈ ਆਸਰਾ ਚੁਕੈ ਸਭੁ ਅਸਰਾਉ
सभो भजै आसरा चुकै सभु असराउ ॥
Sabẖo bẖajai āsrā cẖukai sabẖ asrā▫o.
and when all support has given way, and all hope has been lost -

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਲਗੈ ਤਤੀ ਵਾਉ ॥੧॥
चिति आवै ओसु पारब्रहमु लगै न तती वाउ ॥१॥
Cẖiṯ āvai os pārbarahm lagai na ṯaṯī vā▫o. ||1||
if you then come to remember the Supreme Lord God, even the hot wind shall not touch you. ||1||

ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਨਿਤਾਣਿਆ ਕਾ ਤਾਣੁ
साहिबु निताणिआ का ताणु ॥
Sāhib niṯāṇi▫ā kā ṯāṇ.
Our Lord and Master is the Power of the powerless.

ਆਇ ਜਾਈ ਥਿਰੁ ਸਦਾ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਸਚੁ ਜਾਣੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ
आइ न जाई थिरु सदा गुर सबदी सचु जाणु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Ā▫e na jā▫ī thir saḏā gur sabḏī sacẖ jāṇ. ||1|| rahā▫o.
He does not come or go; He is Eternal and Permanent. Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, He is known as True. ||1||Pause||

ਜੇ ਕੋ ਹੋਵੈ ਦੁਬਲਾ ਨੰਗ ਭੁਖ ਕੀ ਪੀਰ
जे को होवै दुबला नंग भुख की पीर ॥
Je ko hovai ḏublā nang bẖukẖ kī pīr.
If you are weakened by the pains of hunger and poverty,

ਦਮੜਾ ਪਲੈ ਨਾ ਪਵੈ ਨਾ ਕੋ ਦੇਵੈ ਧੀਰ
दमड़ा पलै ना पवै ना को देवै धीर ॥
Ḏamṛā palai nā pavai nā ko ḏevai ḏẖīr.
with no money in your pockets, and no one will give you any comfort,

ਸੁਆਰਥੁ ਸੁਆਉ ਕੋ ਕਰੇ ਨਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਕਾਜੁ
सुआरथु सुआउ न को करे ना किछु होवै काजु ॥
Su▫ārath su▫ā▫o na ko kare nā kicẖẖ hovai kāj.
and no one will satisfy your hopes and desires, and none of your works is accomplished -

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਨਿਹਚਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਰਾਜੁ ॥੨॥
चिति आवै ओसु पारब्रहमु ता निहचलु होवै राजु ॥२॥
Cẖiṯ āvai os pārbarahm ṯā nihcẖal hovai rāj. ||2||
if you then come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall obtain the eternal kingdom. ||2||

ਜਾ ਕਉ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਦੇਹੀ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਰੋਗੁ
जा कउ चिंता बहुतु बहुतु देही विआपै रोगु ॥
Jā ka▫o cẖinṯā bahuṯ bahuṯ ḏehī vi▫āpai rog.
When you are plagued by great and excessive anxiety, and diseases of the body;

ਗ੍ਰਿਸਤਿ ਕੁਟੰਬਿ ਪਲੇਟਿਆ ਕਦੇ ਹਰਖੁ ਕਦੇ ਸੋਗੁ
ग्रिसति कुट्मबि पलेटिआ कदे हरखु कदे सोगु ॥
Garisaṯ kutamb paleti▫ā kaḏe harakẖ kaḏe sog.
when you are wrapped up in the attachments of household and family, sometimes feeling joy, and then other times sorrow;

ਗਉਣੁ ਕਰੇ ਚਹੁ ਕੁੰਟ ਕਾ ਘੜੀ ਬੈਸਣੁ ਸੋਇ
गउणु करे चहु कुंट का घड़ी न बैसणु सोइ ॥
Ga▫oṇ kare cẖahu kunt kā gẖaṛī na baisaṇ so▫e.
when you are wandering around in all four directions, and you cannot sit or sleep even for a moment -

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਹੋਇ ॥੩॥
चिति आवै ओसु पारब्रहमु तनु मनु सीतलु होइ ॥३॥
Cẖiṯ āvai os pārbarahm ṯan man sīṯal ho▫e. ||3||
if you come to remember the Supreme Lord God, then your body and mind shall be cooled and soothed. ||3||

ਕਾਮਿ ਕਰੋਧਿ ਮੋਹਿ ਵਸਿ ਕੀਆ ਕਿਰਪਨ ਲੋਭਿ ਪਿਆਰੁ
कामि करोधि मोहि वसि कीआ किरपन लोभि पिआरु ॥
Kām karoḏẖ mohi vas kī▫ā kirpan lobẖ pi▫ār.
When you are under the power of sexual desire, anger and worldly attachment, or a greedy miser in love with your wealth;

ਚਾਰੇ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਉਨਿ ਅਘ ਕੀਏ ਹੋਆ ਅਸੁਰ ਸੰਘਾਰੁ
चारे किलविख उनि अघ कीए होआ असुर संघारु ॥
Cẖāre kilvikẖ un agẖ kī▫e ho▫ā asur sangẖār.
if you have committed the four great sins and other mistakes; even if you are a murderous fiend

ਪੋਥੀ ਗੀਤ ਕਵਿਤ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਦੇ ਕਰਨਿ ਧਰਿਆ
पोथी गीत कवित किछु कदे न करनि धरिआ ॥
Pothī gīṯ kaviṯ kicẖẖ kaḏe na karan ḏẖari▫ā.
who has never taken the time to listen to sacred books, hymns and poetry -

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਨਿਮਖ ਸਿਮਰਤ ਤਰਿਆ ॥੪॥
चिति आवै ओसु पारब्रहमु ता निमख सिमरत तरिआ ॥४॥
Cẖiṯ āvai os pārbarahm ṯā nimakẖ simraṯ ṯari▫ā. ||4||
if you then come to remember the Supreme Lord God, and contemplate Him, even for a moment, you shall be saved. ||4||

ਸਾਸਤ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਬੇਦ ਚਾਰਿ ਮੁਖਾਗਰ ਬਿਚਰੇ
सासत सिम्रिति बेद चारि मुखागर बिचरे ॥
Sāsaṯ simriṯ beḏ cẖār mukẖāgar bicẖre.
People may recite by heart the Shaastras, the Simritees and the four Vedas;

ਤਪੇ ਤਪੀਸਰ ਜੋਗੀਆ ਤੀਰਥਿ ਗਵਨੁ ਕਰੇ
तपे तपीसर जोगीआ तीरथि गवनु करे ॥
Ŧape ṯapīsar jogī▫ā ṯirath gavan kare.
they may be ascetics, great, self-disciplined Yogis; they may visit sacred shrines of pilgrimage

ਖਟੁ ਕਰਮਾ ਤੇ ਦੁਗੁਣੇ ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਤਾ ਨਾਇ
खटु करमा ते दुगुणे पूजा करता नाइ ॥
Kẖat karmā ṯe ḏuguṇai pūjā karṯā nā▫e.
and perform the six ceremonial rituals, over and over again, performing worship services and ritual bathings.

ਰੰਗੁ ਲਗੀ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਤਾ ਸਰਪਰ ਨਰਕੇ ਜਾਇ ॥੫॥
रंगु न लगी पारब्रहम ता सरपर नरके जाइ ॥५॥
Rang na lagī pārbarahm ṯā sarpar narke jā▫e. ||5||
Even so, if they have not embraced love for the Supreme Lord God, then they shall surely go to hell. ||5||

ਰਾਜ ਮਿਲਕ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੀਆ ਰਸ ਭੋਗਣ ਬਿਸਥਾਰ
राज मिलक सिकदारीआ रस भोगण बिसथार ॥
Rāj milak sikḏārī▫ā ras bẖogaṇ bisthār.
You may possess empires, vast estates, authority over others, and the enjoyment of myriad of pleasures;

ਬਾਗ ਸੁਹਾਵੇ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਚਲੈ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਅਫਾਰ
बाग सुहावे सोहणे चलै हुकमु अफार ॥
Bāg suhāve sohṇe cẖalai hukam afār.
you may have delightful and beautiful gardens, and issue unquestioned commands;

ਰੰਗ ਤਮਾਸੇ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧੀ ਚਾਇ ਲਗਿ ਰਹਿਆ
रंग तमासे बहु बिधी चाइ लगि रहिआ ॥
Rang ṯamāse baho biḏẖī cẖā▫e lag rahi▫ā.
you may have enjoyments and entertainments of all sorts and kinds, and continue to enjoy exciting pleasures -

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਸਰਪ ਕੀ ਜੂਨਿ ਗਇਆ ॥੬॥
चिति न आइओ पारब्रहमु ता सरप की जूनि गइआ ॥६॥
Cẖiṯ na ā▫i▫o pārbarahm ṯā sarap kī jūn ga▫i▫ā. ||6||
and yet, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall be reincarnated as a snake. ||6||

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਧਨਾਢਿ ਅਚਾਰਵੰਤੁ ਸੋਭਾ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਰੀਤਿ
बहुतु धनाढि अचारवंतु सोभा निरमल रीति ॥
Bahuṯ ḏẖanādẖ acẖārvanṯ sobẖā nirmal rīṯ.
You may possess vast riches, maintain virtuous conduct, have a spotless reputation and observe religious customs;

ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਸੁਤ ਭਾਈਆ ਸਾਜਨ ਸੰਗਿ ਪਰੀਤਿ
मात पिता सुत भाईआ साजन संगि परीति ॥
Māṯ piṯā suṯ bẖā▫ī▫ā sājan sang parīṯ.
you may have the loving affections of mother, father, children, siblings and friends;

ਲਸਕਰ ਤਰਕਸਬੰਦ ਬੰਦ ਜੀਉ ਜੀਉ ਸਗਲੀ ਕੀਤ
लसकर तरकसबंद बंद जीउ जीउ सगली कीत ॥
Laskar ṯarkasbanḏ banḏ jī▫o jī▫o saglī kīṯ.
you may have armies well-equipped with weapons, and all may salute you with respect;

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਖੜਿ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਦੀਤ ॥੭॥
चिति न आइओ पारब्रहमु ता खड़ि रसातलि दीत ॥७॥
Cẖiṯ na ā▫i▫o pārbarahm ṯā kẖaṛ rasāṯal ḏīṯ. ||7||
But still, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, then you shall be taken and consigned to the most hideous hell! ||7||

ਕਾਇਆ ਰੋਗੁ ਛਿਦ੍ਰੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਾੜਾ ਸੋਗੁ
काइआ रोगु न छिद्रु किछु ना किछु काड़ा सोगु ॥
Kā▫i▫ā rog na cẖẖiḏar kicẖẖ nā kicẖẖ kāṛā sog.
You may have a body free of disease and deformity, and have no worries or grief at all;

ਮਿਰਤੁ ਆਵੀ ਚਿਤਿ ਤਿਸੁ ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਭੋਗੈ ਭੋਗੁ
मिरतु न आवी चिति तिसु अहिनिसि भोगै भोगु ॥
Miraṯ na āvī cẖiṯ ṯis ahinis bẖogai bẖog.
you may be unmindful of death, and night and day revel in pleasures;

ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਕੀਤੋਨੁ ਆਪਣਾ ਜੀਇ ਸੰਕ ਧਰਿਆ
सभ किछु कीतोनु आपणा जीइ न संक धरिआ ॥
Sabẖ kicẖẖ kīṯon āpṇā jī▫e na sank ḏẖari▫ā.
you may take everything as your own, and have no fear in your mind at all;

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਜਮਕੰਕਰ ਵਸਿ ਪਰਿਆ ॥੮॥
चिति न आइओ पारब्रहमु जमकंकर वसि परिआ ॥८॥
Cẖiṯ na ā▫i▫o pārbarahm jamkankar vas pari▫ā. ||8||
but still, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall fall under the power of the Messenger of Death. ||8||

ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰੇ ਜਿਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਸਾਧੂ ਸੰਗੁ
किरपा करे जिसु पारब्रहमु होवै साधू संगु ॥
Kirpā kare jis pārbarahm hovai sāḏẖū sang.
The Supreme Lord showers His Mercy, and we find the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy.

ਜਿਉ ਜਿਉ ਓਹੁ ਵਧਾਈਐ ਤਿਉ ਤਿਉ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਰੰਗੁ
जिउ जिउ ओहु वधाईऐ तिउ तिउ हरि सिउ रंगु ॥
Ji▫o ji▫o oh vaḏẖā▫ī▫ai ṯi▫o ṯi▫o har si▫o rang.
The more time we spend there, the more we come to love the Lord.

ਦੁਹਾ ਸਿਰਿਆ ਕਾ ਖਸਮੁ ਆਪਿ ਅਵਰੁ ਦੂਜਾ ਥਾਉ
दुहा सिरिआ का खसमु आपि अवरु न दूजा थाउ ॥
Ḏuhā siri▫ā kā kẖasam āp avar na ḏūjā thā▫o.
The Lord is the Master of both worlds; there is no other place of rest.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੁਠੈ ਪਾਇਆ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਚਾ ਨਾਉ ॥੯॥੧॥੨੬॥
सतिगुर तुठै पाइआ नानक सचा नाउ ॥९॥१॥२६॥
Saṯgur ṯuṯẖai pā▫i▫ā Nānak sacẖā nā▫o. ||9||1||26||
When the True Guru is pleased and satisfied, O Nanak, the True Name is obtained. ||9||1||26||
 
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ਰਾਜ ਮਿਲਕ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੀਆ ਰਸ ਭੋਗਣ ਬਿਸਥਾਰ
राज मिलक सिकदारीआ रस भोगण बिसथार ॥
Rāj milak sikḏārī▫ā ras bẖogaṇ bisthār.
You may possess empires, vast estates, authority over others, and the enjoyment of myriad of pleasures;

ਬਾਗ ਸੁਹਾਵੇ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਚਲੈ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਅਫਾਰ
बाग सुहावे सोहणे चलै हुकमु अफार ॥
Bāg suhāve sohṇe cẖalai hukam afār.
you may have delightful and beautiful gardens, and issue unquestioned commands;

ਰੰਗ ਤਮਾਸੇ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧੀ ਚਾਇ ਲਗਿ ਰਹਿਆ
रंग तमासे बहु बिधी चाइ लगि रहिआ ॥
Rang ṯamāse baho biḏẖī cẖā▫e lag rahi▫ā.
you may have enjoyments and entertainments of all sorts and kinds, and continue to enjoy exciting pleasures -


ਚਿਤਿ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਸਰਪ ਕੀ ਜੂਨਿ ਗਇਆ ॥੬॥

चिति न आइओ पारब्रहमु ता सरप की जूनि गइआ ॥६॥
Cẖiṯ na ā▫i▫o pārbarahm ṯā sarap kī jūn ga▫i▫ā. ||6||
and yet, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall be reincarnated as a snake. ||6||

ਚਿਤਿ = remember
= no
ਆਇਓ = come/came
ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ = Supreme Lord
ਤਾ = then
ਸਰਪ = snakeਕੀ = that
ਜੂਨਿ = birth from womb?
ਗਇਆ = went
 
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ax0547

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Re: Translations and Transliterations of Sri Guru Granth Sahib: Issues and Controvers

Now the question arises is there a difference in ਜੋਨੀ vs ਜੂਨਿ?
 

ax0547

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ਯੋਨਿ (yoni)- sanskrit = ਜੀਵਾਂ ਦੀ ਉਤਪੱਤਿ ਦਾ ਸਥਾਨ - place where creature is created!
ਜੂਨਿ - I think is refers to differnt existances/forms, because elsewhere in gurbani it is also said that even a rock is "jun".

ਜੋਨੀ - I think is for place of creation e.g. womb etc.

ਚਿਤਿ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਸਰਪ ਕੀ ਜੂਨਿ ਗਇਆ ॥੬॥
चिति न आइओ पारब्रहमु ता सरप की जूनि गइआ ॥६॥
Cẖiṯ na ā▫i▫o pārbarahm ṯā sarap kī jūn ga▫i▫ā. ||6||
and yet, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall be reincarnated as a snake. ||6||

here the meaining is not that you "wil/shall" be incarnated as a snake, but - if god is not remembered by then you have gone/left/die as a snake's exitance/form - lower level animal with less consiousness = comparison = analogy by guru sahib! ਗਇਆ = specifically in past tense!
 
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