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roab1

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This post is not directed against DG itself. I am not condemning DG in this thread. My post object is try to understand why in modern times the majority of DG followers are Anti Panth.

Bhindranwale was a great Sikh martyr, but belongs to a minority group who both believed in DG and Died for Panth.

Majority of Followers of DG such as Gobind Sadan (secret RAW wing), Takht Patna Jathedar (RSS), Buddha Dal chief in past Santa Singh (puppet of Indira), Modern Sant Samaj (another secret RAW wing), DamDami Taksal Dhumma faction (RAW agent), Some Non-Resident Sikh Diaspora (RAW moles) are loudest representative voice of Sikhism. There actions resemble more of brahmins or thugs depending on situation. Why are majority of DG followers actions against Panth? Any explanation? If you think they are Pro Sikhism, then list their achievements that benefited Sikhism, please.
 

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For this, the thugs would have to come themselves here at SPN and showcase their service for the Sikh Panth... :grinning:
 

ballym

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Very valid point.
If you look at their body language, there insincerity shows up. I watched their videos and something is not right in the way they do the presentations.
may be I am biased but I do not think I am.
On one hand, Anmol singh promotes sehajdhari as sikhs and on the other he supports DG
Because I am not fanatic.
 

kds1980

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Before pointing fingers at them anti DG people should show to panth what they have done for sikhism at ground level.How many Anti DG people are spreading the message of sikhism to people especially to poor people of India and world? How many of them are actively involved in getting justice for 1984 riots victims ,How many are doing other form of sewa?
 

Gyani Jarnail Singh

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Before pointing fingers at them anti DG people should show to panth what they have done for sikhism at ground level.How many Anti DG people are spreading the message of sikhism to people especially to poor people of India and world? How many of them are actively involved in getting justice for 1984 riots victims ,How many are doing other form of sewa?
How about doing the same for the PRO-DG people...maybe that would help dispell the doubts...and put the others on the defensive...
 
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Why do we have to label ourselves as either anti DG or pro DG (and by implication anti panth!)? This is most painful

Millions of ordinary Sikhs are staunch believers of the concept of SGGS being our only Guru but also respect many Banis of DG which they firmly believe is the bani of Dasam Pita. They do not care about the several contradictions in DG or the graphic pornographic verses contained in it. The raging controversy has effected only a miniscule Sikhs in India and the majority exihibit only superficial interest in it.
 

kds1980

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Why do we have to label ourselves as either anti DG or pro DG (and by implication anti panth!)? This is most painful

Millions of ordinary Sikhs are staunch believers of the concept of SGGS being our only Guru but also respect many Banis of DG which they firmly believe is the bani of Dasam Pita. They do not care about the several contradictions in DG or the graphic pornographic verses contained in it. The raging controversy has effected only a miniscule Sikhs in India and the majority exihibit only superficial interest in it.
The issue of DG was in cold storage and Millions of ordinary sikhs hardly knew about Dasam granth.Thanks to anti DG people because they have given DG free publicity by writing provocative articles or speeches Against Dasam Granth.As we know in Sikhism there are lots of sampradays who are following their age old traditions and they are not going to change it.


At present I think its much of a political issue in which both sides are involved
and blamiThe issue of DG was in cold storage and Millions of ordinary sikhs hardly knew about Dasam granth.Thanks to anti DG people because they have given DG free publicity by writing provocative articles or speeches Against Dasam Granth.As we know in Sikhism there are lots of sampradays who are followinng each other of RSS agents.In the best interest of sikhism this issue should be put in cold storage again.
 

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Kanwardeep singh ji..
After a reasonable time has passed..even the "cold room" has got to be spring cleaned !!
The Sikh Panth did do such a spring cleaning in 1935 when it agreed to a SRM (which the sampardiayahs DIDNT AGREE). ..BUT the MAJORITY of the Panth agreed and it was passed by the AKAL TAKHAT.

For the past 60 YEARS..those who never agreed to the SRM..have been steadily eating it away from inside....NOW they feel they ahve the POLITICAL POWER/NUMBERS etc to control the Takhats, the SGPC, the Badal Dal etc to SCRAP the SRM and replace it with their version of sampardayee maryadas ( a PLETHORA of different maryadas actually as no sampardaya can agree with another !!) Finally the FIVE TAKHATS are now" united"..and this UNITY is to DESTROY the SRM once and for all.

The DG phenomenon is part of this streategy...on one hand the Akal Takhat issues a Hukmnamah that DG is NOT our Guru, is NOT to be parkashed at Par with the SGGS, ...which HUKMNAMAH stands REJECTED by those who claim they are STAUNCH SUPPORTERS of the very same Akla Takhat (when it issues hukmnamhs as per their will )
GOBIND SADAN was and IS at the forefront to print and distribute the DG in the hundreds of thousands...it is on its website in TOTO..charitars and hikayats and all..While the AT ordered all "debate" on DG to STOP..it didnt stop the GS people going ahead with faster prtinting and distribution.

This issue was crreated by a SARKAREE SODHAK COMITTEE under Baba Sir Khem singh Bedi who was chastised by the SGPC/SRM people for sitting in the Darbar Sahib with special gadella and cushion becasue of his Bedi ancestory !! He was the main person behind this dg version. The entire episode is available on SPN archives. The SRM has a special para against ..."sitting in darbar sahib with special cushion/seat etc..." this was specifically put in due to Baba Khem singh Bedi's position. And the second one is ..NO BOOK can be parkashed at par in the SGGS Darbar"....this was in dg position.

What we all should do is to SEE that the SRM is ENFORCED in ALL GURDWARAS and TAKHATS. Since two of the Takhats DONT subscribe tot his SRM..they are automatically OUT of the Picture..how cna a GUILTY person be a JUDGE as well ?? This happeend in the nanaksahi Calendar/ Darshan singh case...the TWO "judges" are themsleves GUILTY !!
I dont see this problem going away any time soon...the stakes are too high..this is an AAR PAAR dee laraii..a DO or DIE situation for BOTH.:stirpot:
 

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