My Question is above, how do you prove that God exist ? For example to convert a non-religious to a sikh.
These are the questions I fire sometimes at atheists:
Before you ask yourself.. is there a God?
You should ask yourself..
Do you believe in Truth?
Do you believe in Knowledge?
Do you believe in Destiny?
Do you believe in Universe?
And its existence?
Do you believe in Your existence?
Yes, you do believe in God!
there is a proof of god that is available to anyone, its called faith
Harry Haller ji very wonderfully and truthfully stated.Skepticji,
I had a long discussion with my wife yesterday as we lay in bed, one dog cuddled in the middle of us, the other lying by my wifes feet, I tried to explain to her, as best I could about theories of wolves and Abbraxus, and the sometime mental torture of two equal and opposing bodies with completely different points of view vying for domination,. My wife has no notion of any of these things, she is a nurse, she can explain everything I feel using phsycology and logic, her analysis is almost scientific. However she uses these words and phrases to explain how I feel, and how I may help myself. I have no doubt she understands exactly what I am going through, but that is just her way of analysis and advice.
For me, these are just words, I know in my chest beats two hearts, I know how gentle I can be as a man, and how intent on pleasure I can be as a wolf,I find it difficult to express these feelings and drives in 'normal' language, my wife confessed to me that it had been some time since she had been torn in the way I described, and was fully at peace with herself.I looked at my wife, and asked her if she had ever felt 'special', she replied that feeling special was merely a manifestation of ego, and that she was flesh and bone just like everyone else, and was making the best use of her time and body (So wonderfully stated),. I was not expecting that, I expected her to say yes, as indeed I would have,it makes me wonder out of the two of us, who is further down the path, the difference is she accepts, whilst I am still looking
There is a point here, the word 'faith' to me is a highly personal word, and I think anyone with an ounce of spirituality would understand that. I cannot argue with you about dictionary references, any more than I could convince my wife that big hairy teethy wolves are my problem. Whilst my wife understood, but finds it amusing to translate my glamorous mental state into something more mundane and simple. We searchers do not need proof of god, we have it, it is our faith, not the dictionary word, but a word that means different things to different searchers. I have faith (expect) that one day man and wolf will be united, and Abbraxus will be gone, I really really believe that (perhaps the word faith used in a personal sense was slightly misunderstood by some) , and on that day, I am going to go down to my local Gurdwara and have myself baptised and put my turban back on.
If you look deep within yourself, you will find god (yes),. You will know it is god as deep within you there is a pool of light and information, and it is never wrong (in direction and guidance but can be wrong in detail sometimes in our limits of understanding) , now for me this is absolute fact, not rhetoric, Abbraxus also lives in me, there is no doubt about that too, but he is a tiresome unwelcome guest now, he gives me divine pleasure, but only for the moment, gods gifts are understanding, knowledge, forgiveness and serenity, they are not feelings or sensations, they are tools with which to live my life on this earth until I am complete. Now I can feel all this, I am sure other readers can relate in some way, but if you are going to attempt to argue this point, choose your arguments carefully, copying and pasting dictionary definitions just will not do, you are going to have to bring something to the table from within, from your own heart, this is not a competition where you get a prize for disproving everything, all you are doing is building barriers between yourself and the creator using human words.
Anyone looking for concrete tangible proof of god is always going to be disappointed, I cannot speak for what other religions teach, although I sometimes watch them on the religious channels on TV, none are the same, some teach that this is a temporary world, and on death, if you have been a good boy, you go to heaven, where, depending on which religion you follow, there will be women, nectar, ambrosia rice pudding, no pain, no suffering. Some teach that you are born evil and will stay evil unless you have the constant vigilance of god in you.
Whereas, good old sikhism, teaches me that there is inside of all of us a copy of the eternal truth handbook (mundahug). And this handbook contains every action in every situation as the eternal truth dictates. If you can hear that voice, and tune into it, then you will turn your life on earth into heaven, and also find enlightenment. That book is your proof of god, I defy anyone not to confirm its presence within them (
If you look deep within yourself, you will find god,. You will know it is god as deep within you there is a pool of light and information, and it is never wrong, now for me this is absolute fact, not rhetoric, Abbraxus also lives in me, there is no doubt about that too, but he is a tiresome unwelcome guest now, he gives me divine pleasure, but only for the moment, gods gifts are understanding, knowledge, forgiveness and serenity, they are not feelings or sensations, they are tools with which to live my life on this earth until I am complete.
Anyone looking for concrete tangible proof of god is always going to be disappointed,