Chaz ji,
Guru Fateh.
Just saying it as I see it...and over the past few years you say the above quite a lot to other posters including myself. but really what would be helpful is when you also state something that you also back it up with Gurbani yourself. .that way we get a balanced discussion.
I have over 4700 posts in this forum. Please point out one post where I did not back things up with Gurbani with full Shabads. I rarely use Gurbani in my interaction now. If someone asks me to point my thoughts to Gurbani in specific, I would love to do it. I have no qualms about it.
And personally I was looking forward to understanding your view on naam simran and pointing me to relevant Gurbani. .. but all we got was a shabed saying Naam Simran should be done 24/7..but nothing on what Naam Simran is.
Exactly. This is my understanding of Naam Simran 24/7. Allow me to expand it a bit. By doing Naam Simran 24/7 means all our actions are Ik Ong Kaar centred.
As I could not provide what you had in your mind, then you should have provided the Shabad that expresses your point of view, which you did not. If you had done it, then we could have expanded this interaction, which we still can.
Personally, I think our confusion is about lumping Naam, Simran, Naam Simran all together and your response was about Naam and Simran put together haphazardly. It was about how you feel after doing your Simran and you get upset because we are not able to feel the same vibes that you feel as you want us to do. It was not about Naam Simran as one phrase, the subject being discussed. There are differences in all these 3 terms depending on the Guru's message in a particular Shabad.
As said before, if you had provided your point of view in a tangible manner with the help of SGGS, our only Guru, then we could have discussed all the three terms and their cohesiveness together if there is any. We can still do that to expand our Gurmat understanding.
I.m still interested...if you get 15-20 minutes I.D like to get to know your views better
Of course, I said that already above. We are all here to learn from each other.
Also...please re-read your response to me on the simran thread after I made some effort to post shabad and give my interpretation.
Please post the post# so I can re-read your response.
Chaz, we are all in the same boat, in the same ocean. Our personal experiences mould us. Dodra group AKA the Vaheguru/Simran group has become much bigger now in a cultish manner than when I was part of it. Many people love it. Many kids learn keertan, tabla and other instruments there. The interesting part of this smagam is that all the keertan is sung by the participants and it is all day long with breaks after doing Simran, as per your definition. What I mean by 'in a cultish manner' is that there is no Gurbani katha/explanation but people read writings of late Bapu ji, the founder of Dodra which clash with Gurmat values. I have all 52 of his booklets
So, let's try to be conversationalists a la Guru Nanak in this learning process of ours. We can all elevate each other's consciousness in this SPN family of ours.
Thanks & take care
Tejwant Singh