At least skin colour in Sikhism doesn't get you a 'limited' license to practice the religion like being female does.
At least skin colour in Sikhism doesn't get you a 'limited' license to practice the religion like being female does.
I was never aware of any such issues that ladies had within the faith. It's equal opportunities as far as I understand it.
maintain a personal relationship god and guru granth sahib. Don't bother so much about belonging to the sikh community
Sat Sri Akaal ji,I still do not seem to see black members of society in our temples!
Sat Sri Akaal ji,
I can comment about one angle, in West Africa.
Sikhs, like many Indians in Africa, have come primarily to make money. There are some individuals who are genuinely motivated to be curious about Africa or seek to learn about and maybe aid African people in need, but on the whole, Africans observe Sikhs as being fat (let's be honest!) foreigners in big SUV's, who keep amongst themselves, gather for worship amongst themselves and go back to their isolated communities. If there be interaction, it is usually either when going to Sikhs for business or else menial labour around home or temple. I knew one wonderful African youth who was always polite and cheerful, who worked at a Gurudwara. When I ran into him some time later and asked him why I hadn't seen him for some months, he said he had been scolded for something, slapped, and had his shirt torn by one of the Sikhs whom he worked for. (he was quite poor and probably didn't have many shirts)
All of this is just to say, if we genuinely want to see Black faces sharing in the blessing of Sikh dharma, we need to be conscious of how we interact with our neighbors. With the best of intentions we may go about our lives not realizing how we are perceived by those whom we would gladly draw into our sanghat.
Having said that, there is also the flip-side. When you have the tradition of langar in an impoverished place, you're sure to draw those who come only for the free food. We know them: those with shaved faces who show up at the tail-end of the service, put on a pretense of devotion and are quickly in place for the food hand-out. That will certainly breed a degree of cynicism or alienation on the part of Sikh sanghat in time.
This is all in reference to Africa. I personally feel that Sikhi is a most natural and needful religion for Black people, if only the right outreach be established. If the Black community had an avenue of discovery and dialogue with Sikhi, it would be a great fit all the way around.
Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru
Hi in my town there are plenty we sit togather in the langar hall and eat as equals ,and i have seen this also in Golden templeI still do not seem to see black members of society in our temples!
Another disgrace a Sikh joined the armed forces of the Pakistan regiments on the wagh border parade and no mention of it on here not even a trace. Disgusting politics how much of our lives, families cultural heritages have been wasted on policy an not on diplomacy is beyond belief. Disgraceful.
Another disgrace a Sikh joined the armed forces of the Pakistan regiments on the wagh border parade and no mention of it on here not even a trace. Disgusting politics how much of our lives, families cultural heritages have been wasted on policy an not on diplomacy is beyond belief. Disgraceful.
We're do you live? ? Sikism is the most welcoming religion to females ever!!!!At least skin colour in Sikhism doesn't get you a 'limited' license to practice the religion like being female does.
How is a Sikh joining the parade on the Pakistan side a disgrace?
We're do you live? ? Sikism is the most welcoming religion to females ever!!!!
Please note to the reader to read posts as well as the title of this thread it properly explains out my definition even before they consider to respond to the full post it is showing that your opinions maybe misguided as well as devisive as i do not see any responses aplauding the Sikh community when they are performing a service that is different from the normal an out reaches to further extend the welcome to Sikhs in different places. Sikhism was always a humanitarian service not a political asylum an I hope that Sikh's will always be prepared to take up issues of humanity rather than issues of politics to further enhance its peaceful message. All though the world exists in all spheres of mind frames itself I guess we reserve the right to respond an keep things in a balance as an when the service or seva to keep its shaan is required. Just pointing out issues of concern of course the evident response is to the public and not to anyone individual as individually I also require issues pointing out on occasions I'm not perfect but the panth of course the full embodiment the sat sangat in all its glory should be.
Sadly, we can't be across all of the Sikh news worldwide. As Admin Ji said, please feel free to share such good news with the sangat.
I did not intend to offend you by asking you for clarity...
However, the theme of the thread is largely about gender equality, so I'm not sure where the 'misguided opinions' and the 'divisiveness' that you perceive exists.
Can you please tell me what "shaan" means? Thank you.
Then why do so many "Singhs" still want to see women in a subordinate role??
- Women can't do kirtan at Darbar Sahib
- Women can't do Palki Sahib Seva at Darbar Sahib
- Women can't do washing of sanctum sanctorum and most other seva at Darbar Sahib.
Since Darbar Sahib is the most prominent Sikh holy place this place more than any other, should demonstrate equality!!!
Some sects who have their own Rehet Maryada, keep women from seva as Panj Pyaras, even though there is nothing in gurbani to say they should limited from anything. And even though Sikh Rehet Maryada, the only accepted RM by Akal Takht says men or women can do seva as Panj Pyaras.
- The same sects, in their same RM also instruct women to see their husband as a God (Parmeshwar) over them, while the husband is told to see his wife as only a "faithful follower".
- The same sects, are the ones who oppose women doing seva on par with men at Darbar Sahib.
- Their RM also states women can not do seva during menstruation, even though Gurbani is clear that there is no such thing as sootak in Sikhi, Gurbani states that impurity is only in the mind.
Most Gurdwara management everywhere across the planet is done by all men. I am one of the rare ones who as a female served on the executive now two years. Last year I was treasurer for my local Gurdwara. But may places, the Singhs would think it absolutely scandalous if a woman was elected to the Management Committee.
- I have interacted with a Singh online who said that being born a woman is result of bad karma and that it is a downgrade from a male body and a punishment. That males are higher status than females. That wives should bow to their husbands out of respect (but not the other way around) because the husband is higher status than the wife. Yes this guy is a Singh.
This is only a few examples. I am actually really depressed by the thoughts of some Singhs and really wondering if I was born into this body as a punishment...