what happened to atoms? do you not wish to talk to me about atoms anymore? thats rude.
we already addressed the planets and stars issue... the fact that planets rotate around the sun anticlockwise and muslims around the Kabaa is pure coincidence 50/50 chance (its like winning a coin toss).
Kay why don’t you debate with me instead…im more fun, neh?
Electrons first fill a 1S orbital (as shown in exhibit A top)= maximum of 2 electrons can be found in this orbital (which is an energy state) spinning in opposite direction around their axis.
If you energize an electron it will jump to the next energy level, which is 2S. If you keep energizing, it will jump to 2P (as shown bellow…notice that the 2P energy state can house 6 electrons in x,y, and z plane)…if you continue to energize then the electron can jump to 3s, 3p, 3d……(and so on…the higher energy orbitals are further from the nucleus and can house more electrons… via mathematical theory)
It is important to notice that these shells are probabilities of where the electron can exist at any given moment.
this picture is available on wikipedia...under Quantum mechanics.
Caption: The wavefunctions of an electron in a hydrogen atom possessing definite energy (increasing downward: n = 1, 2, 3, ...) and angular momentum (increasing across: s, p, d,...). Brighter areas correspond to higher probability density for a position measurement. Wavefunctions like these are directly comparable to Chladni's figures of acoustic modes of vibration in classical physics and are indeed modes of oscillation as well: they possess a sharp energy and thus a keen frequency. The angular momentum and energy are quantized, and only take on discrete values like those shown (as is the case for resonant frequencies in acoustics).
Translation of diagram:
They took a standard hydrogen atom with a single electron (quadrant S1 on the diagram) energized it (via irradiation) to different energy levels…so that it can reside on different energy shells N=1 (the first and lowest energy shell possible, top left), 2 (the second energy shell, medial left), 3 (the third energy shell, bottom left).
The center is the nucleus and the electron can reside anywhere along that field in orange (the lighter the orange the less the probability of the electron presence…this is known as an electron cloud, scientist will call it an MO diagram)
TRANSLATION FOR YOU KAY:
Electrons exist as waves...quantified by a resonance frequency...there presence around the nucleus can only be determined through probabilities (they cannot even be expressed as particles)
so what is rotating around what?
rotation around anything would leave an atom unstable...its electron cloud would collapse as it radiates energy. You have to remember that electrons are held in place by electrostatic forces NOT gravitational forces...what happens when electrostatic forces move around each other? They create a magnetic field and dissipate energy through that field...so a moving orbit is theoretically IMPOSSIBLE because it would dissipate energy from the atom!
this is a Erwin Schrodinger atomic model of helium…the electrons are not represented as particles but as waves suspended in their respective orbital shells. They exist everywhere along the wave at any given time. SO Translatedà The wave is the electron!!!!!!!
If there are any more questions I could answer…please feel free to ask. However, you must note, I cannot address, rectify or disprove irrational convictions.
Its important that you and hopefully the larger muslim community understand this science…it’s the future!
Ok, i could be wrong about the atom, I used this example becuase i have seen pictures of atom that has its electrons orbiting it, also I have heard from phd students studying science and medicine that it spins anticlockwise. that was my basis for using this example. I could be wrong, becuase I haven't seen an atom my self, and didn't see it orbiting it. But you could be wrong too, you didn't see an atom either, you are using theories!
But the point was that us orbiting the kabba, there is a similarity between other orbits, which way does the moon orbit the earth, anticlockwise, which way does the earth spin around the sun, anticlockwise, which way to the planets orbit the sun, anticlockwise, please dont bring up planets that spin anticlockwise they are going through a retrograde motion, I think its for all of them, not sure about that, but sure about mars.
You can even see the rings made of rocks in saturn, they too are spinning anticlockwise. even the galaxies, its true that some galaxies are spinning clockwise, but the point is that there is a similarity. between us muslims and the natural law.
Also the sun is the centre of the solar system, the earth is the centre for the moon, the kabba i really believe is the centre of the world. Caroline mentioned that a spherical earth cannot have a centre? didn't get that.
would you atleast agree that there is some similarity? if you are open minded and courageous, you would, if your one those anti-islamic people, just forget it.
also did you notice in the atom there is a positive and negative.
Do you know about this verse in the Quran:
36- Glory be to the One, who created in pairs all things that the earth produces, as well as themselves, and other things they do not know.
The Arabic word “azvaj” is the plural of “zavj” meaning “pairs,” “matches,” “partners.” There are three sorts of pairs in the Creation as described in the verse:
a- Pairs that grow from the earth, i.e., plants that have species of differentiated sex;
b- Human pairs, males and females. Also some included human characteristics like bravery / cowardice; love / hate; generosity / stinginess, etc.
c- Pairs unknown: men did not know anything about the creation in pairs at the time of the descent of the Quran. In this section we shall be dealing with the latter in particular.
THE DISCOVERY THAT WON THE NOBEL PRIZE AWARD
The atom lies at the basis of all matter in the universe. A study of this smallest piece of matter may give an idea about the creation of everything in pairs (partners). As research conducted on the structure of the atom gained momentum, it became clear that the constituents of elementary particles were not limited to protons, neutrons and electrons and that their compositions were of a more complex nature and an unerring precision. Creation in pairs is also valid for elementary particles.
A proton has its anti-proton, an electron is coupled with a positron, and a neutron possesses an anti-neutron. The creation of matter in pairs is one of the discoveries of towering importance of physics. Paul Dirac, a British scientist, was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1933 for his discovery in this field. His discovery (Parity) led to the discovery of the fact that matter has an anti-matter. God’s ingenious calculation is also seen in the numbers of protons, electrons, and neutrons, and of their respective pairs. Let us take as an example the electron and its counterpart, the positron. When these two get together, energy is generated. If there were 15 units of positron versus 10 units of electrons, 10 units of electrons and 10 units of positrons would be eliminated leaving behind 5 units of positron. If their numbers were equal, there would emerge only energy, leaving behind no electrons or positrons. The survival of protons, electrons and neutrons depends on the quantities higher than their respective pairs, while the numerical balance between electrons, protons and neutrons is also important. For example, if the number of electrons were less than the number of protons, there would be no life in the universe. All the fine calculations in our existence are based on this fact. Had one single formation of thousands of phenomena been left to chance, we would not have been on our planet today. We exist thanks to the omniscience of our Creator Who controls everything through His omnipotence.
CONTRIBUTION TO UNITY OF POLARITY
As I have already pointed out, the fact that the description of scientific phenomena in the Quran could not be accounted for by the knowledge acquired at the time of the Prophet is not the only outstanding point. This fact is certainly very important. However, our wonder becomes even greater when we examine the scientific data provided in the verses of the Quran which reflect God’s omnipotence, art, science and design.
For instance, the statement in sura 21, verse 30 that the universe was created from an integrated mass, as the raw material of the heavens and the earth were closed up before God split them, could not possibly be the word of a mortal at the time of the Prophet. This also proved that God had created the matter, the universe and that He had preset objectives in His mind. Therefore, as we proceed, I shall try to point to the scientific miracles in the verses of the Quran as well as to the fact that these things testified to His existence and the splendor of His art. In brief, as important as the existence of the miracles themselves is the inspiration displayed by the miracles. This also holds true of course for the verses announcing that the material world was created in pairs. At the time of the descent of the Quran the creation of the universe in pairs and the significant role of this phenomenon could not possibly have been known. Important as this is, the gamut of wonders ranging from the forces to the balance between the protons and anti-protons, between neutrons and antineutrons are also important. The Quran’s concern is not merely to stress the miracle as such, but also to draw attention to the creation in pairs so that we may have a better insight into the wonders of the creation.
The importance of creation in pairs in the universe gained momentum with the discovery of quarks within the protons and neutrons as well. Laboratory research has made it clear that quarks and leptons (another subatomic particle) emerged in pairs. When the quark called “Bottom” was discovered after such quarks as “Up,” “Down,” “Charm” and “Strange,” the consciousness of creation in pairs was so widespread among scientists that the name “Top” was given to a quark before even it was discovered. In the year 1994, the discovery of the quark “Top” was announced. The research carried out in the Fermi labs in the USA resulted in the discovery of “Top,” that paired up with the quark called “Bottom.”
All paired creations contribute to the integral order of the universe. The quarks “Up” and “Down,” the protons and antiprotons, the positive and negative electricity charges in the universe have no consciousness. All these well-ordered and predetermined formations are created in a microcosm that, in turn, renders possible the formation of galaxies, stars, planets, plants, the animal kingdom and humankind. Opposite pairs of forces and opposite pairs of particles owe their existence to an Omnipotent Power. The colorful and marvelous universe based on the formation of opposite pairs of force bars the possibility of chaos. Whoever the author of the creation and the designer of ultimate ends may have been, it was He who generated the pairs of particles and forces and set these opposite particles and forces to operate in a harmonious unity until the targets are reached. For those who take heed the evidence is clear.
49- And We created pairs of everything that you may contemplate.
51-The Dispersing, 49