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<blockquote data-quote="Randip Singh" data-source="post: 167769" data-attributes="member: 1323"><p>Ok lets clear this nonsense up about Chickens feeling pain when they lay eggs:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/farmlife/msg1012434027916.html" target="_blank">http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/...434027916.html</a></p><p> </p><p> <em>The egg laying process is very dramatic! Here's what my hens do, see if it matches yours: when one is about to lay an egg, she will go rather frantically from nesting spot to nesting spot in the yard, all the while bawking and crying in a fretful tone, sometimes she'll seem downright frenzied. Sometimes other hens or the roo will accompiany her in her search for the Perfect Nesting Spot, and THEY have to get in on the noisemaking, too. The hen may also watch another hen who is laying, sticking her head in the nest box and cackling her head off at the top of her lungs. We call this the 'pre-egg cackle', and I think it serves to draw out any predators before the hen is committed to laying the egg and is stuck on the nest. When the hen is FINALLY actually ready to lay, she gets very quiet and secretive. She'll choose a nest (usually the same one she used before, despite all the searching that went on before) and as she sits, will seem to go into a trance, being quite still. When the egg is coming out she will stand up and concentrate hard (Moms who have seen their small children passing a bowel movement know this look!) and seem to strain a bit, then out pops the egg! After this she may stay and mother it for a few minutes, then will leap from the nest cackling loudly and sometimes running. Most of the time she'll go and eat a little food and have a drink. </em></p><p> <em><strong>All the hens treat their egg laying (and everyone else's) as a cause for loud <a href="http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/farmlife/msg1012434027916.html#" target="_blank"><span style="color: darkgreen">celebration</span></a>. I think the noise you are hearing is that rather than screams of pain.</strong> <strong> Also, for first-time layers, there is that freaked-out, 'what the heck just happened to me?!' quality to the hens' reaction to laying her first eggs.</strong> *L* They take this more in stride as they mature. The only time I'd worry is if you suspect a hen is egg-bound, and then you need to act very quickly. It isn't very common in chickens who get a good diet and proper care though. The symptoms of an eggbound hen are fairly marked, if you want to read more on it research the Internet or click on my 'My Page' link, I've discussed eggbinding there a bit.</em></p><p></p><p><u><strong>On Chcken egg laying</strong></u></p><p></p><p> <a href="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pets/chicken.htm" target="_blank">http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pets/chicken.htm</a></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em>Hens lay eggs, roosters do not. When a hen lays an egg it will only hatch into a chick if a rooster has fertilized the egg by mating with the hen. The hen and the rooster must mate before the egg is laid in order for the egg to be fertilized. If a rooster does not mate with the hen the egg will not be fertilized. Hens will lay eggs even if a rooster is not present. Most eggs you buy in the store are not fertilized because there was no rooster present</em></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.ehow.com/facts_7223811_do-rooster-hen-lay-eggs_.html" target="_blank">http://www.ehow.com/facts_7223811_do...lay-eggs_.html</a></p><p> </p><p> <em>A hen does not need a rooster to lay an egg. Hens ovulate regularly, regardless of whether there is contact with a male or not. Most grocery store eggs come from hens that have never seen a rooster. </em></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.chicken-raising.com/" target="_blank">http://www.chicken-raising.com/</a></p><p> </p><p> <em>Egg production is primarily controlled by the amount of daylight the animal gets. For full production, your chickens will need 14 hours of daylight per day...............If you just want eggs, you don't need males at all. Hens and ducks will lay eggs without a rooster or drake present</em></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.fredsfinefowl.com/chickeneggfacts.html" target="_blank">http://www.fredsfinefowl.com/chickeneggfacts.html</a></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px">[SIZE=-0]<span style="color: #cc9933">A hen will lay eggs, even in the absence of a rooster. Eggs from the grocery store, will not hatch if you put them in an incubator, as they are generally not fertile. </span></span>[/SIZE]</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Links on milk (it too comes out of a cow's private parts):</strong></u></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/dairy-industry.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-u...-industry.aspx</a></p><p></p><p></p><p> <a href="http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/Cows-Milk-A-Cruel-and-Unhealthy-Product.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-u...y-Product.aspx</a></p><p> </p><p>There's even organic in India now:</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://ecocertindia.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://ecocertindia.wordpress.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>some of the arguments about true organic:</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/13/organic-vs-conventional-h_n_201609.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_201609.html</a></p><p> </p><p>local organic</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4312591.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4312591.stm</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>animatedkhanda1</p><p></p><p>I think to really be safe on milk and eggs, you can only keep your own to ensure their welfare.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Randip Singh, post: 167769, member: 1323"] Ok lets clear this nonsense up about Chickens feeling pain when they lay eggs: [URL="http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/farmlife/msg1012434027916.html"]http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/...434027916.html[/URL] [I]The egg laying process is very dramatic! Here's what my hens do, see if it matches yours: when one is about to lay an egg, she will go rather frantically from nesting spot to nesting spot in the yard, all the while bawking and crying in a fretful tone, sometimes she'll seem downright frenzied. Sometimes other hens or the roo will accompiany her in her search for the Perfect Nesting Spot, and THEY have to get in on the noisemaking, too. The hen may also watch another hen who is laying, sticking her head in the nest box and cackling her head off at the top of her lungs. We call this the 'pre-egg cackle', and I think it serves to draw out any predators before the hen is committed to laying the egg and is stuck on the nest. When the hen is FINALLY actually ready to lay, she gets very quiet and secretive. She'll choose a nest (usually the same one she used before, despite all the searching that went on before) and as she sits, will seem to go into a trance, being quite still. When the egg is coming out she will stand up and concentrate hard (Moms who have seen their small children passing a bowel movement know this look!) and seem to strain a bit, then out pops the egg! After this she may stay and mother it for a few minutes, then will leap from the nest cackling loudly and sometimes running. Most of the time she'll go and eat a little food and have a drink. [B]All the hens treat their egg laying (and everyone else's) as a cause for loud [URL="http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/farmlife/msg1012434027916.html#"][COLOR=darkgreen]celebration[/COLOR][/URL]. I think the noise you are hearing is that rather than screams of pain.[/B] [B] Also, for first-time layers, there is that freaked-out, 'what the heck just happened to me?!' quality to the hens' reaction to laying her first eggs.[/B] *L* They take this more in stride as they mature. The only time I'd worry is if you suspect a hen is egg-bound, and then you need to act very quickly. It isn't very common in chickens who get a good diet and proper care though. The symptoms of an eggbound hen are fairly marked, if you want to read more on it research the Internet or click on my 'My Page' link, I've discussed eggbinding there a bit.[/I] [U][B]On Chcken egg laying[/B][/U] [URL]http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pets/chicken.htm[/URL] [B][FONT=Arial][I]Hens lay eggs, roosters do not. When a hen lays an egg it will only hatch into a chick if a rooster has fertilized the egg by mating with the hen. The hen and the rooster must mate before the egg is laid in order for the egg to be fertilized. If a rooster does not mate with the hen the egg will not be fertilized. Hens will lay eggs even if a rooster is not present. Most eggs you buy in the store are not fertilized because there was no rooster present[/I][/FONT][/B] [URL="http://www.ehow.com/facts_7223811_do-rooster-hen-lay-eggs_.html"]http://www.ehow.com/facts_7223811_do...lay-eggs_.html[/URL] [I]A hen does not need a rooster to lay an egg. Hens ovulate regularly, regardless of whether there is contact with a male or not. Most grocery store eggs come from hens that have never seen a rooster. [/I] [URL]http://www.chicken-raising.com/[/URL] [I]Egg production is primarily controlled by the amount of daylight the animal gets. For full production, your chickens will need 14 hours of daylight per day...............If you just want eggs, you don't need males at all. Hens and ducks will lay eggs without a rooster or drake present[/I] [URL]http://www.fredsfinefowl.com/chickeneggfacts.html[/URL] [SIZE=3][SIZE=-0][COLOR=#cc9933]A hen will lay eggs, even in the absence of a rooster. Eggs from the grocery store, will not hatch if you put them in an incubator, as they are generally not fertile. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/SIZE] [U][B]Links on milk (it too comes out of a cow's private parts):[/B][/U] [URL="http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/dairy-industry.aspx"]http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-u...-industry.aspx[/URL] [URL="http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/Cows-Milk-A-Cruel-and-Unhealthy-Product.aspx"]http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-u...y-Product.aspx[/URL] There's even organic in India now: [URL]http://ecocertindia.wordpress.com/[/URL] some of the arguments about true organic: [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/13/organic-vs-conventional-h_n_201609.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_201609.html[/URL] local organic [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4312591.stm[/URL] animatedkhanda1 I think to really be safe on milk and eggs, you can only keep your own to ensure their welfare. [/QUOTE]
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