Controversial ‘Patit’, And Indelibly Inked

[rajneesh madhok]

Re: ‘Patit’, and Indelibly Inked

Probe into illegal voting too little, too late, says Capt
Tribune News Service​

Chandigarh, September 21
Punjab Pradesh Congress Committee President Capt Amarinder Singh today said the inquiry ordered into illegal voting in the SGPC elections was too little and too late, as even non-Sikhs were allowed to vote in Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal’s village.
“It is like locking the stable doors after the horse has bolted,” Capt Amarinder remarked in a statement.. The PCC President asked the Commission as to what “action” did it expected to take since he was an employee of the government headed by Parkash Singh Badal. “Moreover, no action would serve any purpose as the election process, even though it was a sham, had already been completed and the results declared,” he added.
Amarinder also accused the Chief Minister of failing to take timely measures against floods in the state. He said instead of blaming the Centre, Badal should announce a time-bound special girdawari. Amarinder claimed that the Irrigation Department had pumped out floodwater from different villages in the Lambi constituency represented by Badal and released the same into Abohar villages.
“This is an act of shamelessness,” he remarked.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110922/punjab.htm#7

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Re: ‘Patit’, and Indelibly Inked

READ SGGS...GURBANI already tells YOU the figures...
KRORON me EK...Virla koi vicha{censored}e...and many such hundreds of examples actual;ly reveal just HOW MANY true Khalsas ...in the past..Today and Tomorrow...
Guur Nanak Ji standing knee deep in the GANGES..is only ONE among the millions...YET HE dare throw waters in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION....isnt this proof enough that LIONS vs SHEEP..the numbers DONT MATTER...its whats INSIDE that matters...
IF Guur Nanak ji ahd thought like US...hey *** am i dong here.ONE among millions....what can I possibly achieve..( and He didnt achieve ANYTHING..if we go WATCH the KUMBH MELA TODAY...everything is as exactly as what GURU JI SAW !!)..BUT GURU JI dint give up..didnt STOP..didnt go home crying about NUMBERS...etc etc etc...He CAME..HE SAW..HE DID what He came to do..and went away....
TODAY no "SIKH" dare move an inch without seeing ONE HUGE MOB of kirpan wielders behind him..as backup !!!why ?? you decide...becasue GURU NANAK ji didnt even have one Backup !! Only ONE is needed to do the RIGHT THING...thats why there is ONLY ONE AKAL PURAKH !!! and ONLY ONE SGGS...EK....EK...Ek>."YOU".

 

[kds1980]

READ Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji...GURBANI already tells YOU the figures...
KRORON me EK...Virla koi vicha{censored}e...and many such hundreds of examples actual;ly reveal just HOW MANY true Khalsas ...in the past..Today and Tomorrow...
Guru Nanak Ji standing knee deep in the GANGES..is only ONE among the millions...YET HE dare throw waters in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION....isnt this proof enough that LIONS vs SHEEP..the numbers DONT MATTER...its whats INSIDE that matters...
IF Guru Nanak ji ahd thought like US...hey *** am i dong here.ONE among millions....what can I possibly achieve..( and He didnt achieve ANYTHING..if we go WATCH the KUMBH MELA TODAY...everything is as exactly as what GURU JI SAW !!)..BUT GURU JI dint give up..didnt STOP..didnt go home crying about NUMBERS...etc etc etc...He CAME..HE SAW..HE DID what He came to do..and went away....
TODAY no "SIKH" dare move an inch without seeing ONE HUGE MOB of kirpan wielders behind him..as backup !!!why ?? you decide...becasue GURU NANAK ji didnt even have one Backup !! Only ONE is needed to do the RIGHT THING...thats why there is ONLY ONE AKAL PURAKH !!! and ONLY ONE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji...EK....EK...Ek>."YOU".

Gyani ji

What you are saying true but rules of world changes for no one and one of the main rule of world is power is always with the majority.If you conduct elections in Jungles Lions will never emerge as winners because they never has the numbers.So in other words a sikh will always be under Hindu,muslim or christian rule and whatever policies they form sikhs have to obey to them.

Also let me remind you at the time of Guru's number was not such an important factor.Hardcore warrior tribes use to rule over large number of people's but with the emergence of democracy numbers gains too much importance

 

[rajneesh madhok]

Re: ‘Patit’, and Indelibly Inked

It is important to know when to barter and when to negotiate, the politicians are moving on this theory and making fool of general public.

 

[kds1980]

It is important to know when to barter and when to negotiate, the politicians are moving on this theory and making fool of general public.

Politicians are also mirror of public.Whatever common sentiments are their in public they start toeing the line.Just look at Omar Abdullah in 2008 his speech won many hearts that how he is an Indian first and he will never allow BJP to come to power ,but from past 1-2 years he has started pleasing separatists of Kashmir even that we were not merged with India.Today he has given red carpet treatment to POK leaders and spent 11 crore rupees ,why he is doing it because he know that by praising India his political will finish in Kashmir as Kashmiri's are hardcore anti India.

 

[spnadmin]

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There are three main ideas threading through this discussion. One is about the stampede of the majority over the minority. Another is how a majority became a majority through crooked means. Another is the serious impact that crooked politics has had and will continue to have on the identity of Sikhs and Sikhi....serious impact.

They are not separate ideas. Crooked means gave majority status to what was really a magpie's collection of completely different voting blocks with individual agendas, often unrelated. The connection amongst them is that they were organized well enough to buy Sikh identity from a political jatha. This jatha has the only agenda to be re-elected in preparation for the upcoming statewide elections and competition for political seats. Positioning: will it be BJP or Congress?

It may have been a big mistake to take the SGPC election seriously and at face value. Was it important on its own as an election, as a purely Sikh matter, per the Gurdwara Act? Or does its real importance lie somewhere else, greasing the skids for a larger political drama next to unfold.

I am not impressed by arguments that state that lions would lose elections in the jungle. If India is a democracy governed by the rule of law, then majorities have to be duly constituted. Not outcomes of flagrant manipulation of official institutions like the courts and election commissions. Otherwise elections are not part of a democratic process but a gangster's enterprise!

Where is Poolka btw in all of this post mortem discussion? What good is the message of Hazare? You will have only good men tasking themselves to protect the interests of the common good. How reasonable is such an expectation? Knights of goodness put their questions to petty kings who have no other goal but to protect the influence they have accumulated over nearly 20 years. It is play acting. The play is bad drama. The script writers are very very clever. Once again Sikhs understand the characters but miss the plot.

The play never was about Sikhs even though the stage was SGPC. If this is the case, next steps should take this into consideration.

 

[rajneesh madhok]

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The voters will keep on calling the administration incompetent instead of corrupt, as so many candidates those seek our votes are either not competent or they are being rejected by the public. But due to Non-provision of "Right to reject" The general public will continue to become fool and these politicians will continue to play with the sentiments of public. Unless and until we follow the policies of Anna Hazare as per SPNadminji's suggestions we people will continue to be misguided with our so called politicians those have nothing to do with public interest, they are concerned with their self motives.

 

[spnadmin]

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Action against illegal voters won't serve purpose

Punjab Pradesh Congress Committee president Capt Amarinder Singh on Wednesday questioned the logic of ordering inquiry and action into the illegal voting during the recently held elections to the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC).

“Any inquiry would hardly serve any purpose and it would just be an eyewash as even non-Sikhs were allowed to vote in Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal’s village itself, while genuine Sikhs were prevented from voting and the elections officials facilitated it all,” Amarinder said in a press statement.

Referring to the Gurdwara Election Commission (GEC) asking the Commissioner of Gurdwara Elections, Punjab, to take immediate action against those having violated the election guidelines, he said any action now is like locking the stable doors after the horse has bolted. “What action does the GEC expect the commissioner of Gurdwara Elections to take when he happens to be an employee of the state government headed by Badal? It would be naive to expect him to take any action against his boss. Moreover, what purpose will it serve as the election process has already been completed and the results declared,” Amarinder said.

The former Chief Minister stated that the way the SGPC elections were conducted only eroded the credibility of the GEC. “The genuine Gursikh voters were not allowed to exercise the franchise as Badal feared they might vote against his party. It was extensively reported in the media which was enough proof for the GEC to act instead of waiting for an inquiry which may never come,” he added.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/-Action-against-illegal-voters-won-t-serve-purpose-/849903/

 

[Harry Haller]

I would like to apologise in advance for the this post, SPNadminji, delete away if inappropriate

My view on very short sikhs who trim beards and hair, have questionable mental functions, and enjoy eating cheese straws, is that they are all

petite patit potty pastry loving sikhs

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Did anyone hear a "peep" (or PEEP ) out of PHOOLKA..that great Human Rights Lawyer ??
Is that because he is in the pockets of badal-makkar Combine...only to embarass the Sarna-Delhi Combine ??? Isnt such deafening silence strange behaviour...hanst he seen any of the Videos, the pictures, the Media Interviews on Day & Night news Channels, PTC etc showing NON-SIKHS voting and showing off their voted fingers !! with scatt regard or being afraid...they have supreme faith that the power whos behind them is REAL...wow...silence is golden indeed...when in badal land..keep quiet.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Kds Ji wrote..>>>>Also let me remind you at the time of Guru's number was not such an important factor.Hardcore warrior tribes use to rule over large number of people's but with the emergence of democracy numbers gains too much importance >>>>>>
No veer ji...Numbers were not important then and neither are they NOW..its SUBSTANCE that matters...the SUBSTANCE that was in the 40 in Chamkaur. ( A MILLION at the Gates) .....in the 22 in Saragharree Fort..( 16000 at the gates).....the Substance in Akali Phoola Singh who had Maharaja ranjit Singh WHIPPED in PUBLIC for a moral trupitude...( Mahraja of Punjab vs the Jathedar Akal takhat !!) Todays Jathedar/sgpc pardhaan sits at the FEET of BADAL....

How are MINORITY SIKHS faring so WELL in Democratic CANADA...UK.. ?? How come HOLLAND is getting ready to pass a motion in Parliament on prof Bhullar BUT PUNJAB is NOT ?? IS Holland a PUNJABI/SIKH Majority state and PUNJAB is NON_SIKH Majority ??
How come Kamlaa naaath is being publicly summoned by a US Court Judge..and not a single case filed against him in INDIA where he is a Cabinet Minister ?? Are SIKHS MAJORITY in NEW YORK/USA ?? IS the US Court being partail/biased towards SIKHS whiel the DELHI court is being very fair and unbiased ?? IS Holland being biased in favour of SIKHS ?? and Badal is NOT ?? ITS "SUBSTANCE" that counts in ALL cases...Men of STRAW rule countries where the Majority rides rough shod over minorities...do you know that Maharaja Ranjit Singh donated nearly FIVE times the gold to Hindu mandirs than the amount he donated to harmandar sahib ?? He never hanged a single criminal...he was a TRUE MINORITY RULER of a MAJORITY...unlike the Majority rulers of India Today..who CRUSH minorities to curry favour with Majority...IF it was truly desired to see whether LIONS can win "elections"....the LIONS should be allowed to stand in one....(in the recent sgpc one Badal made sure all the LIONS..were harrased maximum..by FRAUD. He had no faith even in his SHEEP to win without FRAUD.)