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IAF strike into Pakistan---in my words

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This quote sums up how we all are news channel by birth

"The greatest mistake we humans make in our relationships; We listen half, understand quarter, think zero and react double."
 

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India did not shoot any pakistani plane, they were showing the missiles fired by them. they had to say that they also shot down a plane but not so. it is for face saving. mig21 is also a compatible plane to any other. it did not go down because of that. it is all propaganda to hypnotize the public
 

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On defence forum of India the Indian response to Pakistani ingress into our side of the LOC is not being considered satisfactory . While the Pakistanis fired 4 to 5 beyond visual range missiles ( BVRs ) we did not fire them at all . The reason being given is that civilian airliners were flying in our territory and one of the BVRs could have hit a civilian airliner as BVR has long range . BVRs reportedly are allowed to be fired only when civilian air traffic has been shut down . In fact only one short range missile was fired , the one by Wing commander Abhinandan Vardhaman . The whole response from the Indian side is being considered unsatisfactory on defence forum of India .
 

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Personally I prefer your movie analysis, I quite enjoy reading that, I normally get a balanced and intelligent view of the movie.
 

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Personally I prefer your movie analysis, I quite enjoy reading that, I normally get a balanced and intelligent view of the movie.
My post above yours is not my analysis . It is based on discussion on DFI ( defence forum of India ) .
 

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Most of the American BVRs the Pakistani pilots fired failed to reach their targets except the one that shot wing commander Abhinandan Vardhaman . So every cloud has a silver lining .
 

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The Sukhois were able to successfully jam all the American BVRs and made them ineffective . But Wing commander Abhinandan Vardhaman went across the LOC in his bid to get the Pakistani plane and beyond the range of the sukhoi's jamming range . Hence he got hit by BVR .
 

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From DFI---

The Sukhois did not fire BVR missiles because while jamming the Pak missiles they were also maneuvering to not get hit by Pak missiles . So it was difficult to launch missiles while maneuvering . When the Pak planes turned away it was decided not to attack them as they were 24 against only 8 of our jets . So the odds were 3 to 1 in their favour by numbers . So the mystery as to why our BVR missiles were not launched is solved .
 

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My post above yours is not my analysis . It is based on discussion on DFI ( defence forum of India ) .
Given that this is a Sikh philosophy forum, and given that Sikh philosophy is universal and untied to any particular country, then this post is pretty one sided and reads more like a propaganda statement, should you not post similar statements from the defence forum for Pakistan?

You also use the word 'we' quite a lot, I am a Sikh, but have little interest in the affairs of either India or Pakistan, why have you assumed that just because I am a Sikh, I will automatically consider the affairs of India as my own? If the two countries wish to have a playground spat and then spend the next 6 months using it for propaganda that is up to them, it has little to do with me.

But, as I said earlier, your movie reviews are great, and impartial..........
 

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Given that this is a Sikh philosophy forum, and given that Sikh philosophy is universal and untied to any particular country, then this post is pretty one sided and reads more like a propaganda statement, should you not post similar statements from the defence forum for Pakistan?

You also use the word 'we' quite a lot, I am a Sikh, but have little interest in the affairs of either India or Pakistan, why have you assumed that just because I am a Sikh, I will automatically consider the affairs of India as my own? If the two countries wish to have a playground spat and then spend the next 6 months using it for propaganda that is up to them, it has little to do with me.

But, as I said earlier, your movie reviews are great, and impartial..........
Sikh philosophy is no doubt universal . But very few Sikhs are in Pakistani armed forces, but on the other hand many more Sikhs are in Indian armed forces . Indeed the current chief of the IAF which carried out the strike is a Sikh , air chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa . Most Sikhs living in the subcontinent live in India . So I am within my rights in thinking that Sikhs are of Indian origin even if they live in foreign countries.
 
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Indeed the current chief of the IAF which carried out the strike is a Sikh.
In worldly terms, any person, who is a citizen of any country by birth is expected to be loyal to that country. So, a Sikh, a Hindu or a Muslim born in India or Pakistan or for that matter any country is expected to be loyal to that country. Religious preferences have nothing to do with a loyality to a particular nation.

What if in future, Pakistan happens to appoint a Sikh or a Hindu as Air Chief Marshall, isn't s/he expected to be loyal to that country? There are many Sikhs and Hindus at prominent positions in a Muslim countries like Malaysia, aren't they expected to be loyal to that country?

Admin Note: As this thread serves no purpose on a philosophy forum, it is now closed for further discussions.
 
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