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Famous Sikhs At The Time Of 6th Guru

kds1980

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Today i was reading these vaars of bhai gurdas ji

http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=bhai_gurdas_vaaran&action=pauripage&pauri=29&vaar=11

Vaar 11 Pauri 29 Names of the Sikhs of the sixth Guru

lSkr BweI qIrQw guAwlIeyr suienI hirdws]

lashakar bhaaee theerathhaa guaaleeeaer sueinee haridhaasa||

Bhai Tiratha is from Laskar and Hari Das Soni belongs to Gwalior.

Line 1


BwvwDIr aujYx ivc swD sMgiq gur Sbd invws]

bhaavaadhheer oujain vich saadhh sangath gur shabadh nivaasa||

Bhava Dhir comes from Ujjain and resides in Word and the holy congregation.

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myl vfw burhwn pur snmuK isK shj prgws]

mael vaddaa burehaan pur sanamukh sikh sehaj paragaasa||

Famous are the Sikhs of Burhan Pur who love one another and reside in the equipoise.

Line 3


Bgq BeIAw Bgvwndws nwl boldw Gry audws]

bhagath bheeaa bhagavaanadhaas naal boladhaa gharae oudhaasa||

Bhagat Bhaia Bhagvan Das is the devotee and with him is a Sikh named Bodala who lives in his home becoming fully detached.

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mlk ktwrU jwxIAY iprQI m`l drweI Kws]

malak kattaaroo jaaneeai pirathhee maal dharaaee khaasa||

Kataru, the noble one and physician Piathimal are especially well known personalities.

Line 5


BgqU Curw vKwxIAY flU irhwxy swbws]

bhagathoo shhuraa vakhaaneeai ddaloo rihaanae saabaasa||

Devotee Chhura and Dallu are said to be the inhabitants of Haryana.

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suMdr suAwmI dws duie vMs vDwvx kvl ivgws]

sundhar suaamee dhaas dhue vans vadhhaavan kaval vigaasa||

Sundar and Swami Das both are developers of the tradition of Sikhism and live always like a blossomed lotus.

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gujrwqy ivc jwxIAY ByKwrI BwbVw sulws]

gujaraathae vich jaaneeai bhaekhaaree bhaabarraa sulaasa||

Bhikhari, Bhavara and Sulas are Gujarati Sikhs.

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gujrwqy Bwau Bgiq rihrws ]óú]

gujaraathae bhaao bhagath rehiraas ||aa||

All these Sikhs consider loving devotion as their way of life.

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Vaar 11 Pauri 30 Other Sikhs of the sixth Guru

suhMfY mweIAy lµb hY swD sMq gwvY gurbwxI]

suhanddai maaeeaae lanb hai saadhh santh gaavai gurabaanee||

In village Suhanda is Bhai maia of lamb caste who sings the holy hymns in the holy congregation.

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cUhV cauJV lKnaU gurmuK Anidn nwm vKwxI]

chooharr choujharr lakhanoo guramukh anadhin naam vakhaanee||

Chuhar of Chaujhar caste from Lucknow is gurmukh who remembers Lord day and night.

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snmuK isK prgws ivc BweI Bwnw ivrqI hwxI]

sanamukh sikh paragaas vich bhaaee bhaanaa virathee haanee||

Bhai Bhana of Prayag is a close Sikh who earns his livelihood.

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jtU qpw sujox pur gurmiq inhcl syv kmwxI]

jattoo thapaa sujon pur guramath nihachal saev kamaanee||

Jattu and Tappa, the residents of Jaunpur have served in accordance with Gurmat with stable mind.

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ptxY sBrvwl hY nvl inhwlw suD prwxI]

pattanai sabharavaal hai naval nihaalaa sudhh paraanee||

In Patna Bhai naval and among Sabhaervals Nihala is a pious person.

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jYqw syT vKwxIAY ivx gur syvw hor n jwxI]

jaithaa saeth vakhaaneeai vin gur saevaa hor n jaanee||

One wealthy person is known by the name of Jaita who likes nothing except the service of the Guru.

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rwjmhl BwnU bhl Bwau Bgq gurmiq mn BwxI]

raajamehal bhaanoo behal bhaao bhagath guramath man bhaanee||

Of Rajmahal city is Bhanu Bahal whose mind is absorbed in the wisdom of the Guru and the loving devotion.

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snmuK soFI bdlI syT gupwlY gurmiq jwxI]

sanamukh sodtee badhalee saeth gupaalai guramath jaanee||

Badali Sodhi and Gopal, the rich persons understand the Gurmat.

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suMdr cFw Awgry Fwky mohx syv kmwxI]

sundhar chadtaa aagarae dtaakae mohan saev kamaanee||

Sundar Chaddha of Agra and Bhai Mohan a resident of Dhakka have served and cultivated the true earning.

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swD sMgq ivthu kurbwxI ]óñ]ññ]

saadhh sangath vittahu kurabaanee ||aa||aa||

I am sacrifice unto the holy congregation.
 

kds1980

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The sikhism at the time guru hargobind ji was very diverse.

The people of different part of india were following sikhism.But now it looks like sikhism is totally punjabified.99% of sikhs are punjabi .It looks like we punjabi's has hijacked sikhism

comments apprecited
 

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agree with you KDS ji

people mix punjabi culture with sikhism

i find it more striking when i see this outside india.

a lot of punjabi cultural aspects have become almost accepted as "Sikhi"
 

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The sikhism at the time guru hargobind ji was very diverse.

The people of different part of india were following sikhism.But now it looks like sikhism is totally punjabified.99% of sikhs are punjabi .It looks like we punjabi's has hijacked sikhism

comments apprecited
This is going to sound controversial:

I would say Ramgarhia's and Jatt's have hijacked Sikhism and made it into a form quite different from what it was........as a result Sikhism has become Punjabified!

Punjabi-ism and Sikhism are two different and disntict things.

Note these people formed the bulk of Guru Hargobinds warriors and they all seem to come from mercantile and trader type backgrounds..........in contradiction to Mcleod.
 

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well i do agree that punjabism has hijacked sikhism buh where did punjabism came fromm
the superstitions the caste system, etc...
.... brahminism....
im not sayinn hinduismm im sayinn brahminismmm.
they believe in caste system ann all the superstitions.. when the sikhs had to stay in the forest for 50-60 years hu took care of the history of sikhism ann gurdwaras ... mahants... so i shud conclude wid that "brahminism" kinda hijacked sikhism ann its own religion.. hinduismm...
 

kds1980

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This is going to sound controversial:

I would say Ramgarhia's and Jatt's have hijacked Sikhism and made it into a form quite different from what it was........as a result Sikhism has become Punjabified!

Punjabi-ism and Sikhism are two different and disntict things.

Note these people formed the bulk of Guru Hargobinds warriors and they all seem to come from mercantile and trader type backgrounds..........in contradiction to Mcleod.
I think other castes should also be blamed.they are also not doing anything good for sikhism.so all punjabi's should be blamed for punjabifying sikhism
 

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I think other castes should also be blamed.they are also not doing anything good for sikhism.so all punjabi's should be blamed for punjabifying sikhism
You are right....Khatri's and Arora's tried to push Sikhism to Hinduism....1920's and the Mahants are examples of this.......

Jatts and Tarkhans have a heavy Vashanvite bias at this moment in time i.e. AKJ, GnSSJ, Namdhari's etc...

So what is the solution?
 

kds1980

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You are right....Khatri's and Arora's tried to push Sikhism to Hinduism....1920's and the Mahants are examples of this.......

Jatts and Tarkhans have a heavy Vashanvite bias at this moment in time i.e. AKJ, GnSSJ, Namdhari's etc...

So what is the solution?
I don't think at present there is any solution.
 

drkhalsa

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You are right....Khatri's and Arora's tried to push Sikhism to Hinduism....1920's and the Mahants are examples of this.......

Jatts and Tarkhans have a heavy Vashanvite bias at this moment in time i.e. AKJ, GnSSJ, Namdhari's etc...

So what is the solution?
Solution seems to be spread of Sikhism more beyond the punjab and making these people also part of SGPC and other managing Commeties

may be ?this what came to my mind
 

kds1980

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Here is the article on sikhmarg.com , the threat to sikhism is from sikh sampradas

SIKHI NOO KHATRA

It mentions that once in punjab sikilgar sikhs used to do prakash of guru granth sahib in thier gaddi's.They even proudly said that we were used to weapons for guru gobind singh ji.But the fanatic sikh organisations started calling it beadbi of guru granth sahib as a result large number of them reverted back to hinduism.

seriously when we have fanatic sikh organisations like these then who need enemies.
They will kick out each and every sikh from sikhism
 

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