I find that the behaviour in the gurdwara is jsut disgusting. If you were to go to a church, or mosque you would never see anything like what you see at the gurdwara. Elderly women are constanly gossiping and talking in the langar hallls and even the divan halls!:}--}: People let their children run around, make noise and play. And when you yell at other peoples children their parents become easily offened. Ladies would rather look at and disscuss what other woman are wearing than talk about the daily vakkk or the meaning of the kirtan. After 300+ years this is what we've gotten toooo???