Hmm that is the first thing I thought after posting it here. 3HO sells itself as Sikh Dharma in the west. But it is not doing any Sikhi prachar. But I still don't understand, if they have to get people to dance or stretch, why bring Gurbani to the stage?It's best not to bother yourself too much over the practices of 3HO
I understand what you are saying. But that's what Sikhi is about. When you come face to face with Truth, all your chains and shackles are broken down. These people are clinging more to their beliefs.I think when they hear us object to them they take it as a personal attack, I mean imagine spending your whole life working towards being a yoga guru and then realizing it conflicts with your religion? It isn't squarely their fault, it is human nature to overlook the negatives of ones actions, especially if one has vested interests in its success (3HO is a major business venture)
Truly said. I used to think like that some time ago, and I believe some part of me is lost in judging these people, sitting in the comfort of my room.I've come to the conclusion that unless we have some form of face to face discourse with them where they don't feel like they're in a poisoned environment or surrounded by individuals with bias, we won't get anywhere.
I feel they are being promoted in Sikh nation before they are 'foreigners' who have 'embraced' Sikhi. Everywhere you will see their photos in the FB albums of people like us. They get too much attention when they visit India. No one bothers telling them.They feel, according to my own deductions, that they are being marginalised by the majority (Indian Sikhs) because they practice differently and as such turn a blind eye to siggestion, whether they be objective or not.
That is indeed a novel idea. One of my friends met one such lady in Belgium. And he found that she was more of a Yoga teacher than a Sikh, it didn't matter to her enough she was doing something wrong in the latter regard.I plan to go out there and actually record and speak to 3HO followers and set up a small discussion with them if they allow me, when I'm old enough. Although they are a tad bit misguided, I believe we have a lot to learn from them too.
Sat Sri Akal.I plan to go out there and actually record and speak to 3HO followers and set up a small discussion with them if they allow me, when I'm old enough. Although they are a tad bit misguided, I believe we have a lot to learn from them too.
Pardon any questionable statements, and as always I learn best from your input so don't hesitate to put me in my place, if need be
I think you need to be put in your place. Recalling my capacities and intellect at your age you put me to shame.
I continue to be enamored with your intellect, civility and substance in your posts. The future of Sikhism belongs to the likes of you in the young generation. May you continue in the brilliance you possess. mundahug cheeringmunda wahkaurwahmunda
I believe your 3HO dialog could be extremely worthwhile if carried out with win-win zeal. We always need to build bridges that two sides can cross the divide through.
THEY do LOOK much better than the PUNJABIS i see daily in Darbar sahib on satellite telecast...and just look at the pot bellied granthis....they could learn a trick or two from these too...I havent yet come cross an obese 3HO member..female or male...whereas 90% of the Punjabis are pot bellied and females are having spare tyres everywhere...he heVeera I approve that in the land of the obese it is no bad thing to do a little yoga.
Kanwaljit Singh ji and Manni Singh 85 ji there is a saying that proof is in the pudding. If I were to go out with say a Badal or a 3HO person who you think I will rather be with? You guessed it, a 3HO person.I think the problem is that they are confused about themselves. Are they 3HO Yogis, Sikhs or simply fun loving Americans?
I don't want to be a judge.
1. Are they Yogis?
May be doing Yoga practices but not Yogis that you find in India who have nothin to do with Sikhism and are a respected off-shoot of Hinduism.
2. Are they Sikhs?
I believe they are great Sikhs in persona and intellect. Again there is a bit of bias in terms of how it all fits. But I have a lot of respect for such versus some of those claiming to be Sikhs here at SPN who are greatly misguiding. 3HO people stand for whatever they are. More dangerous are the people who stand for X but pretend to be Y.
3. simply fun loving Americans?
It is very unfortunate that a line of thought is being pushed out by preachers in Sikhism fo great self-doubt, stop living and just chant/meditate on Waheguru Waheguru. Sikhism is much bigger than this.
Sikhism is joyful. It is not painful. It is not to suffocate your soul and blindly believe. It is fresh as morning dew and something full of fun and soul food. I enjoy and love to see the joie-de-vivre (the fun of living) in 3HO Sikhs versus some of the somber looking, closed eyed and dejected grave intro-specters walking Sikh zombies. This is quite common in traditional congregations in the West as well as Punjab. I believe all need to and can learn from 3HO on this aspect.