' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUtH0DDJorM#t=551 This is my last post here... and I wanted to leave on a positive note. The message in this video is profound, and is what I have been trying to articulate. I wish you all the best in your journey..... Edit: This was not meant to debate, hence the inspirational section. That was a bit uncalled for Harry Ji. It's fine if you don't agree, if you have your own inspirational post based on more secular views of Sikhi, then you could have posted your own. And I am not leaving because I can't debate my views anymore. I jsut don't see how debating it is constructive at all anymore, and I was a little taken aback and shaken up by the direct personal attacks, when I never once attacked anyone. Saying I believe someone is athiestic in their interpretation is not an attack... it's trying to find a word that accurately describes that interpretation and was never meant to be deragatory, however the direct attacks I received were... I believe I was actually called 'hateful' by Tejwant Ji, a word I would never use for anyone. I have no wish to further debate if it means being attacked in that way. I'm not gone I just moved to a different forum where people are a little more open to discussion on both sides of the 'debate' without personal attacks. Your desire to immeditely jump on my last thread which was supposed to be an inspirational video and shoot it down, just illustrates my point. If you don't agree with the message (which I happen to think agrees with Sikhi) then you don't have to watch it.... or... simply post your own inspirational video which depicts a more secular view. Really I wish all of you well, even Tejwant Ji. I can be reached at Sikhawareness foum if anyone really wants.