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<blockquote data-quote="Ishna" data-source="post: 152639" data-attributes="member: 2709"><p>Gurfateh</p><p></p><p>I've recently been reading Bhai Gurdas Vaars.</p><p></p><p>I was reading <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6" target="_blank">Vaar 2, Pauri 6</a>. I continued reading as many examples were given.</p><p></p><p>However, I still struggle with the very last line of this Pauri (highlighted in <span style="color: SeaGreen">green</span>). I think the translation might be a little off. Can someone please help me to understand it?</p><p></p><p></p><p> ੬ : ਸੰਗਤ ਦਾ ਅਸਰ-ਨਾਨੱਤ੍ਵ</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>ਸੋਈ ਤਾਂਬਾ ਰੰਗ ਸੰਗਿ ਜਿਉ ਕੈਹਾ ਹੋਈ।</p><p>Soee Taanbaa Rang Sangi Jiu Kaihaan Hoee.</p><p>सोई तांबा रंग संगि जिउ कैहां होई ।</p><p>Mixing with tin, the copper transforms into bronze.</p><p>1 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੧</p><p> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p><a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p> </p><p></p><p style="text-align: right">ਸੋਈ ਤਾਂਬਾ ਜਿਸਤ ਮਿਲਿ ਪਿਤਲ ਅਵਲੋਈ।</p> <p style="text-align: right">Soee Taanbaa Jisat Mili Pital Avaloee.</p> <p style="text-align: right">सोई तांबा जिसत मिलि पितल अवलोई ।</p> <p style="text-align: right">The same copper mixed with zinc appears in the form of brass.</p> <p style="text-align: right">2 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੨</p><p> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>ਸੋਈ ਸੀਸੇ ਸੰਗਤੀ ਭੰਗਾਰ ਭਲੋਈ।</p><p>Soee Seesay Sangatee Bhangaar Bhuloee.</p><p>सोई सीसे संगती भंगार भुलोई ।</p><p>Copper mixed with lead changes pewter, a brittle metal called bharath in the Punjab.</p><p>3 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੩</p><p> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p> </p><p></p><p style="text-align: right">ਤਾਂਬਾ ਪਾਰਸਿ ਪਰਸਿਆ ਹੋਇ ਕੰਚਨ ਸੋਈ।</p> <p style="text-align: right">Taanbaa Paarasi Parasiaa Hoi Kanchan Soee.</p> <p style="text-align: right">तांबा पारसि परसिआ होइ कंचन सोई ।</p> <p style="text-align: right">With the touch of the philosopher’s stone, the same copper becomes gold.</p> <p style="text-align: right">4 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੪</p><p> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a><a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>ਸੋਈ ਤਾਂਬਾ ਭਸਮ ਹੋਇ ਅਉਖਧ ਕਰਿ ਭੋਈ*।</p><p>Soee Taanbaa Bhasam Hoi Aoukhadh Kari Bhoee.</p><p>सोई तांबा भसम होइ अउखध करि भोई ।</p><p>When transformed into ashes copper becomes a medicine.</p><p>5 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੫</p><p> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> <a href="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#" target="_blank">http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#</a> </p><p> </p><p></p><p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: SeaGreen">ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਵਰਤਦਾ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਗੁਣ ਗੋਈ ॥੬॥</span></p> <p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: SeaGreen">Aapay Aapi Varatadaa Sangati Goun Goee ॥6॥</span></p> <p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: SeaGreen">आपे आपि वरੴतदा संगति गुण गोई ॥६॥</span></p> <p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: SeaGreen">Likewise, though the Lord is omnipresent, yet the effects of the company of man are different over men. Knowing this much, the Lord is eulogised in the holy congregation.</span></p> <p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: SeaGreen">6 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੬</span></p><p>Many thanks.</p><p></p><p>Ishna</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ishna, post: 152639, member: 2709"] Gurfateh I've recently been reading Bhai Gurdas Vaars. I was reading [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6"]Vaar 2, Pauri 6[/URL]. I continued reading as many examples were given. However, I still struggle with the very last line of this Pauri (highlighted in [COLOR=SeaGreen]green[/COLOR]). I think the translation might be a little off. Can someone please help me to understand it? ੬ : ਸੰਗਤ ਦਾ ਅਸਰ-ਨਾਨੱਤ੍ਵ [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] ਸੋਈ ਤਾਂਬਾ ਰੰਗ ਸੰਗਿ ਜਿਉ ਕੈਹਾ ਹੋਈ। Soee Taanbaa Rang Sangi Jiu Kaihaan Hoee. सोई तांबा रंग संगि जिउ कैहां होई । Mixing with tin, the copper transforms into bronze. 1 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੧ [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [RIGHT]ਸੋਈ ਤਾਂਬਾ ਜਿਸਤ ਮਿਲਿ ਪਿਤਲ ਅਵਲੋਈ। Soee Taanbaa Jisat Mili Pital Avaloee. सोई तांबा जिसत मिलि पितल अवलोई । The same copper mixed with zinc appears in the form of brass. 2 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੨[/RIGHT] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] ਸੋਈ ਸੀਸੇ ਸੰਗਤੀ ਭੰਗਾਰ ਭਲੋਈ। Soee Seesay Sangatee Bhangaar Bhuloee. सोई सीसे संगती भंगार भुलोई । Copper mixed with lead changes pewter, a brittle metal called bharath in the Punjab. 3 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੩ [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [RIGHT]ਤਾਂਬਾ ਪਾਰਸਿ ਪਰਸਿਆ ਹੋਇ ਕੰਚਨ ਸੋਈ। Taanbaa Paarasi Parasiaa Hoi Kanchan Soee. तांबा पारसि परसिआ होइ कंचन सोई । With the touch of the philosopher’s stone, the same copper becomes gold. 4 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੪[/RIGHT] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL][URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] ਸੋਈ ਤਾਂਬਾ ਭਸਮ ਹੋਇ ਅਉਖਧ ਕਰਿ ਭੋਈ*। Soee Taanbaa Bhasam Hoi Aoukhadh Kari Bhoee. सोई तांबा भसम होइ अउखध करि भोई । When transformed into ashes copper becomes a medicine. 5 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੫ [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [URL="http://www.searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/2/pauri/6#"][/URL] [RIGHT][COLOR=SeaGreen]ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਵਰਤਦਾ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਗੁਣ ਗੋਈ ॥੬॥[/COLOR] [COLOR=SeaGreen]Aapay Aapi Varatadaa Sangati Goun Goee ॥6॥[/COLOR] [COLOR=SeaGreen]आपे आपि वरੴतदा संगति गुण गोई ॥६॥[/COLOR] [COLOR=SeaGreen]Likewise, though the Lord is omnipresent, yet the effects of the company of man are different over men. Knowing this much, the Lord is eulogised in the holy congregation.[/COLOR] [COLOR=SeaGreen]6 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੨ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੬[/COLOR][/RIGHT] Many thanks. Ishna [/QUOTE]
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