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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 84398" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>Parma jio</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>As you asked me through a private message I replied and expressed my inability to give comments in detail, and requested you too wait for a couple days but it sounds, you cannot wait. Be cool as you have found peace, that is the assets I want you to hold on to; comments given taken really should not hit that peace. Well, as you really got frustrated because of not getting reply, here are my comments in short as per my limitations .</strong> <strong>MOD is doing its job, no need to be disappointed with them, I declared openly to them that where ever they smell something hurtful from my comments, just delete it because I believe by filtering a good substance can be kept clean.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: SeaGreen"></span><strong><span style="color: SeaGreen">Coming back to your all original comments and my response, here are they</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong> (quote parma ji)</p><p> I guess you are never fully developed into being who you are until the moment you die.</p><p><strong>Very depressing statement, often quoted by those scholars who have little or no knowledge of spiritual experience. Certainly the ones with elevated spiritual experience will laugh at it. Learning is it self nothing if there is no progression and goal is not obtained. In a race all participants run but all do not win, does it mean, all others should give up thinking" we all are not going to win, lets give up hopes" No offense, this is the way I feel after reading your nice statements.</strong></p><p><strong>TO PK70, Why would anyone laugh at my statement. My question to you is, So when are you fully developed then? Are you fully developed? Should I call you a guru?</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Take a deep breath </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">Parma</span></strong><strong><span style="color: green"> ji, I haven’t laughed at your statement. I mentioned elevated experience, why did you skip that, I wonder.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Elevated souls experience spiritual state of mind and in their dictionary there is no place for such statement. How would I know? Read Guru Nanak, Kabir Ji, </span></strong><strong><span style="color: green">Nam</span></strong><strong><span style="color: green"> Dev and others who not only found Him within but showed to others as well.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">When one determines to do progression as they teach, question of ‘fully developed” doesn’t exist due to spiritual path one treads on, only thing remains on mind is to battle the primal forces with Guru Teachings. For psychologists teaching civility, it is of course a fascinating term. What the definition is of fully developed as per your view any way? For whom does one develop fully? Is it for a civil society or for one self? What are measures you have set up for fully developed? To me it sounded a lame term filled with a lot of imagination. Then saying dieing without fully developed, also doesn’t say any thing positive. If one doesn’t develop fully as per your measure then what is the need of it any way. </span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green"> Did I ever boast about myself, if you have noted down it, kindly share with me because that is not my progression (your fully developed), that boasting will show quite good display of my limitations?</span></strong></p><p> <strong> Or are you a <a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Sikh</a> still learning until the moment you die.</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">I do not assume as you do here. A Sikh doesn’t need to die while learning; it depends if learning ever takes place, every time if a fall comes and the Sikh keeps saying I am learning that is still progression. However, if the <u>Sikh’s who keep saying this for the rest of their lives till die,</u> obviously are not progressing</span> <span style="color: green">because eventually the falls should cease if learning takes place. Without practical words remain just means of decorations</span></strong></p><p> <strong> Seems depressing why are you depressed by my statement? </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">You have stated that we die without fully developed, doesn't it itself sound depressing?If one from the start says we die without fully developed, then where is the hope you give to others who want to develop fully before death, remember” jinni Naam dhiaaeea gae mushkit ghaal”( Japji) do you think it is a lie? Here I do not see any indication that contemplating on Naam will not help you because you will die without fully developed</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>I am not afraid of death maybe you feel you need to explore life more, carry on until you find your peace of mind.</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Sir did I question you personally? Whatever and whoever you are, I respect you for being what you are because it is none of my business to judge others even if I know them. My comments were on hopelessness I smelled from your statement not at you at all. So try to stick to reason</span></strong></p><p> <strong> I have explored my life and I have seen the light to be true and in that I have found peace. Where does your caravan take you?</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green"> Congratulations. Good for you, I am not that fortunate yet. In progression, there are no stops, so how can I name an imaginary stop?</span></strong></p><p> <strong> If you are fully elevated then I will salute you. Good on you</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">I never claimed, if His Grace is bestowed upon ever, I would not claim then either</span></strong></p><p> <strong>. Only if you are fully developed into what have you developed, please state, who are you or what are you?</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Again, imagination builds walls before reality, without reality one is doomed to dip in illusions, I do not have those tastes. My limit was only to a statement that limits the hope of progression if one chooses to have.</span></strong></p><p> <strong> This may seem all riddled at the moment but take your time to answer each of the statements and I will discuss my points deeper.</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #339966">I have done as per my understanding.</span></strong></p><p> <strong> P.s. A fully developed intellect will not argue thoughts but discuss ideas.</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Thanks for enlightening me on this</span>.</strong></p><p> <strong> If you want to carry on then please follow this form of code not personal attacks, if all you can do is attack a person then there is not much you have developed into as kids can do that.</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Well Sir, I haven’t claimed any thing any way. If my comments on your statement disturb you that much, I am sorry. May be I haven’t developed as you did, I am still O.K if you level me to kids level, we learn from them too, it is matter of time only. I wonder you are doing what you are advising me not to do. Hope you will realize that as per your claims.</span></strong></p><p> <strong> Your response so far has been ok. </strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Thanks for your so kind words.</span></strong></p><p> <strong>Only Please remain civil in responses. Thanks</strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: green">Should I answer it or not, I wonder because you are so kind to teach me every thing</span></strong></p><p> I am nothing but a humble man, and I am trying to posses the qualities to improve on all levels.</p><p> <strong><span style="color: #339966">Saying I am humble doesn’t make any one humble, yes showing it through behavior it does for sure; tragedy of us is that we don’t let our a little ego hurt, we sacrifice all efforts we put in to over come ego and start defending it, no one loses but we ourselves. You take care of yourself </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #339966"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: YellowGreen">NOTE I cannot respond till tomorrow, I hope you can bear with me in case you comment on my comments.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 84398, member: 5889"] [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]Parma jio As you asked me through a private message I replied and expressed my inability to give comments in detail, and requested you too wait for a couple days but it sounds, you cannot wait. Be cool as you have found peace, that is the assets I want you to hold on to; comments given taken really should not hit that peace. Well, as you really got frustrated because of not getting reply, here are my comments in short as per my limitations .[/B] [B]MOD is doing its job, no need to be disappointed with them, I declared openly to them that where ever they smell something hurtful from my comments, just delete it because I believe by filtering a good substance can be kept clean.[/B] [/COLOR][B][COLOR=SeaGreen]Coming back to your all original comments and my response, here are they[/COLOR] [/B] (quote parma ji) I guess you are never fully developed into being who you are until the moment you die. [B]Very depressing statement, often quoted by those scholars who have little or no knowledge of spiritual experience. Certainly the ones with elevated spiritual experience will laugh at it. Learning is it self nothing if there is no progression and goal is not obtained. In a race all participants run but all do not win, does it mean, all others should give up thinking" we all are not going to win, lets give up hopes" No offense, this is the way I feel after reading your nice statements.[/B] [B]TO PK70, Why would anyone laugh at my statement. My question to you is, So when are you fully developed then? Are you fully developed? Should I call you a guru?[/B] [B][COLOR=green]Take a deep breath [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]Parma[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green] ji, I haven’t laughed at your statement. I mentioned elevated experience, why did you skip that, I wonder.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green]Elevated souls experience spiritual state of mind and in their dictionary there is no place for such statement. How would I know? Read Guru Nanak, Kabir Ji, [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green]Nam[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green] Dev and others who not only found Him within but showed to others as well.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green]When one determines to do progression as they teach, question of ‘fully developed” doesn’t exist due to spiritual path one treads on, only thing remains on mind is to battle the primal forces with Guru Teachings. For psychologists teaching civility, it is of course a fascinating term. What the definition is of fully developed as per your view any way? For whom does one develop fully? Is it for a civil society or for one self? What are measures you have set up for fully developed? To me it sounded a lame term filled with a lot of imagination. Then saying dieing without fully developed, also doesn’t say any thing positive. If one doesn’t develop fully as per your measure then what is the need of it any way. [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=green] Did I ever boast about myself, if you have noted down it, kindly share with me because that is not my progression (your fully developed), that boasting will show quite good display of my limitations?[/COLOR][/B] [B] Or are you a [URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Sikh[/URL] still learning until the moment you die.[/B] [B][COLOR=green]I do not assume as you do here. A Sikh doesn’t need to die while learning; it depends if learning ever takes place, every time if a fall comes and the Sikh keeps saying I am learning that is still progression. However, if the [U]Sikh’s who keep saying this for the rest of their lives till die,[/U] obviously are not progressing[/COLOR] [COLOR=green]because eventually the falls should cease if learning takes place. Without practical words remain just means of decorations[/COLOR][/B] [B] Seems depressing why are you depressed by my statement? [/B] [B][COLOR=green]You have stated that we die without fully developed, doesn't it itself sound depressing?If one from the start says we die without fully developed, then where is the hope you give to others who want to develop fully before death, remember” jinni Naam dhiaaeea gae mushkit ghaal”( Japji) do you think it is a lie? Here I do not see any indication that contemplating on Naam will not help you because you will die without fully developed[/COLOR][/B] [B]I am not afraid of death maybe you feel you need to explore life more, carry on until you find your peace of mind.[/B] [B][COLOR=green]Sir did I question you personally? Whatever and whoever you are, I respect you for being what you are because it is none of my business to judge others even if I know them. My comments were on hopelessness I smelled from your statement not at you at all. So try to stick to reason[/COLOR][/B] [B] I have explored my life and I have seen the light to be true and in that I have found peace. Where does your caravan take you?[/B] [B][COLOR=green] Congratulations. Good for you, I am not that fortunate yet. In progression, there are no stops, so how can I name an imaginary stop?[/COLOR][/B] [B] If you are fully elevated then I will salute you. Good on you[/B] [B][COLOR=green]I never claimed, if His Grace is bestowed upon ever, I would not claim then either[/COLOR][/B] [B]. Only if you are fully developed into what have you developed, please state, who are you or what are you?[/B] [B][COLOR=green]Again, imagination builds walls before reality, without reality one is doomed to dip in illusions, I do not have those tastes. My limit was only to a statement that limits the hope of progression if one chooses to have.[/COLOR][/B] [B] This may seem all riddled at the moment but take your time to answer each of the statements and I will discuss my points deeper.[/B] [B][COLOR=#339966]I have done as per my understanding.[/COLOR][/B] [B] P.s. A fully developed intellect will not argue thoughts but discuss ideas.[/B] [B][COLOR=green]Thanks for enlightening me on this[/COLOR].[/B] [B] If you want to carry on then please follow this form of code not personal attacks, if all you can do is attack a person then there is not much you have developed into as kids can do that.[/B] [B][COLOR=green]Well Sir, I haven’t claimed any thing any way. If my comments on your statement disturb you that much, I am sorry. May be I haven’t developed as you did, I am still O.K if you level me to kids level, we learn from them too, it is matter of time only. I wonder you are doing what you are advising me not to do. Hope you will realize that as per your claims.[/COLOR][/B] [B] Your response so far has been ok. [/B] [B][COLOR=green]Thanks for your so kind words.[/COLOR][/B] [B]Only Please remain civil in responses. Thanks[/B] [B][COLOR=green]Should I answer it or not, I wonder because you are so kind to teach me every thing[/COLOR][/B] I am nothing but a humble man, and I am trying to posses the qualities to improve on all levels. [B][COLOR=#339966]Saying I am humble doesn’t make any one humble, yes showing it through behavior it does for sure; tragedy of us is that we don’t let our a little ego hurt, we sacrifice all efforts we put in to over come ego and start defending it, no one loses but we ourselves. You take care of yourself [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=YellowGreen]NOTE I cannot respond till tomorrow, I hope you can bear with me in case you comment on my comments.[/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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