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Sikh Sangat Challanged Prof. Darshan Singh On Distorting Dasam Granth Bani
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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 80538" data-attributes="member: 313"><p>Gurfateh</p><p></p><p>Bhai Sahib,</p><p> </p><p>The tract by Sikh missioary collage was based upon the work of Gyani Bhag Singh Ji Ambala,who in turn used the Phd thesis of Jaggi Rattan Singh Ji.</p><p> </p><p>Jaggi Sahib since then has changed his stand from Anti to pro Dasham Granth Sahib ,perhaps having some financial gains from people near to late Baba Virsa Singh Ji or due to understanding Guru Granth Sahib Ji correctly.</p><p> </p><p>Gyani Ambala Sahib ji were declared Tankhiya for his book and only after he repented,he was admitted back.</p><p><a href="http://santsipahi.org/patshahi10/bhagsingh.html" target="_blank">Sri Dasam Granth of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Bhag Singh Ambala santsipahi.org</a></p><p>At present tract from sikh missioary collage is been withrwan</p><p>.<a href="http://santsipahi.org/patshahi10/smc-controversial-booklet.html" target="_blank">Sri Dasam Granth of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji santsipahi.org</a></p><p> </p><p>laslty as per Rahit Namah Bhai Desa Singh term Dasmi Granth did exist in the time of Guru.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.google.com/s2/sharing/resources/static/images/quot.png?hl=en_US" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />ਦੁਹੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਮੈਂ ਬਾਣੀ ਜੋਈ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span>ਚੁੰਨ ਚੁੰਨ ਕੰਠ ਕਰੇ ਨਿਤ ਸੋਈ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span>ਦਸਮੀਂ ਆਦਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਦਿਨ ਜੇਤੇ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span>ਪੁਰਬ ਸਮਾਨ ਕਹੇ ਹੈ ਤੇਤੇ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span>ਨਹੁ ਸਿੰਘ ਇਕ ਬਚਨ ਹਮਾਰਾ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਹਮ ਨੇ <strong>ਜਾਪੁ </strong>ਉਚਾਰਾ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੁਨ <strong>ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ</strong> ਜੋ ਕਹੀ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਬੇਦ ਸਮਾਨ ਪਾਠ ਜੋ ਅਹੀ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੁਨ <strong>ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ</strong> ਬਨਵਾਯੋ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਸੋਢਿ ਬੰਧ ਜਹ ਕਤਾ ਸੁਹਾਯੋ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੁਨ ਕੋ <strong>ਚੰਡੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ</strong> ਬਣਾਏ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਅਮਤਰ ਕੇ ਸਭ ਕਬਿ ਮਨ ਭਏ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span><strong>ਗਯਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਬੋਧ</strong> ਹਮ ਕਹਾ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਜਸ ਪਾਠ ਕਰ ਹਰਿ ਪਦ ਲਹਾ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੁਨ <strong>ਚੌਬੀਸ ਅਵਤਾਰ</strong> ਕਹਾਨੀ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਬਰਨਨ ਕਰਾ ਸਮਝੀ ਸਭ ਗਯਾਨੰ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਦੱਤਾਤ੍ਰੇਯਾ ਕੇ ਗੁਰੁ ਸੁਨਾਏ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੁਨ ਬਚਿਤਰ ਬਖਯਾਨ ਬਨਾਏ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਤ੍ਰਿਨ ਕੋ ਭੀ ਇਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਬਖਾਨਾ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੜ੍ਹੇ ਮੂੜ੍ਹ ਸੇ ਹੋਇ ਸਯਾਨਾ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span><strong>ਸ਼ਬਦ ਹਜ਼ਾਰੇ</strong> ਕੇ ਸੁਖਦਾਈ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਸਬੈ ਨ੍ਰਿਪਨ ਕੀ ਕਥਾ ਸੁਨਾਈ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਜੋ ਮੈਂ ਹਿਤ ਕਰਿ ਬਰਨ ਸਵਾਰੀ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span>ਪੁਨ ਕਹ ਗਤ ਨ ਕਹੂੰ ਉਚਾਰੀ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span><strong>ਚਾਰ ਸੈ ਚਾਰ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ</strong> ਬਨਾਏ ਜਹਾਂ ਜੁਣਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਛਲ ਦਿਖਰਾਏ<span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">। </span></p><p><strong><em>ਰਹਿਤਨਾਮਾ ਭਾਈ ਦੇਸਾ ਸਿੰਘ <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">, 32, 38</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> ॥</span></em></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Kala Afghana Sahib said that term Granth could not be used by a Sikh for any other book.</p><p> </p><p>He forgot to read Japu Ji Sahib where First Talks of "Asankh Granth Mukh Ved Path".</p><p> </p><p>Then he showing his intelligenc in book volu 10 of Vipran Ki reet to Sach Da Marg says that reading the Bani bani chosen only is not OK.But here we are been told to do Kanth or to memorise it.</p><p> </p><p>Das does not find anything wrong if some part of Guru Granth Sahib Ji are told to be rembered for ever,thenn what is wrong with Dasham Granth Sahib Ji? Say for nitneem,if we are in jungle and without gutka(small book) then we can still read Japu Ji Sahib,if we rember them.</p><p> </p><p>Remebering whole book like Muslims do for Holy Kuran or some niuhngs do for whole Adi Guru Darbar or Dasham Guru Darbar is more like a donkey laden with text as in both the cases they seldon understand the essance of thier thier respective texts.Akal Bless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 80538, member: 313"] Gurfateh Bhai Sahib, The tract by Sikh missioary collage was based upon the work of Gyani Bhag Singh Ji Ambala,who in turn used the Phd thesis of Jaggi Rattan Singh Ji. Jaggi Sahib since then has changed his stand from Anti to pro Dasham Granth Sahib ,perhaps having some financial gains from people near to late Baba Virsa Singh Ji or due to understanding Guru Granth Sahib Ji correctly. Gyani Ambala Sahib ji were declared Tankhiya for his book and only after he repented,he was admitted back. [url=http://santsipahi.org/patshahi10/bhagsingh.html]Sri Dasam Granth of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Bhag Singh Ambala santsipahi.org[/url] At present tract from sikh missioary collage is been withrwan .[url=http://santsipahi.org/patshahi10/smc-controversial-booklet.html]Sri Dasam Granth of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji santsipahi.org[/url] laslty as per Rahit Namah Bhai Desa Singh term Dasmi Granth did exist in the time of Guru. 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Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਬਨਾਏ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਜਹਾਂ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਜੁਣਤਿਨ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਕੇ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਛਲ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਦਿਖਰਾਏ[FONT=Mangal]। [/FONT] [FONT=Mangal][/FONT][B][I]ਰਹਿਤਨਾਮਾ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਭਾਈ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਦੇਸਾ[FONT=Raavi] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT]ਸਿੰਘ [FONT=Times New Roman], 32, 38[/FONT][FONT=Mangal] ॥[/FONT][/I][/B] Kala Afghana Sahib said that term Granth could not be used by a Sikh for any other book. He forgot to read Japu Ji Sahib where First Talks of "Asankh Granth Mukh Ved Path". Then he showing his intelligenc in book volu 10 of Vipran Ki reet to Sach Da Marg says that reading the Bani bani chosen only is not OK.But here we are been told to do Kanth or to memorise it. Das does not find anything wrong if some part of Guru Granth Sahib Ji are told to be rembered for ever,thenn what is wrong with Dasham Granth Sahib Ji? Say for nitneem,if we are in jungle and without gutka(small book) then we can still read Japu Ji Sahib,if we rember them. Remebering whole book like Muslims do for Holy Kuran or some niuhngs do for whole Adi Guru Darbar or Dasham Guru Darbar is more like a donkey laden with text as in both the cases they seldon understand the essance of thier thier respective texts.Akal Bless. [/QUOTE]
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