vijaydeep Singh said:Gurfateh
there is not restriction till it isnot Halal.
But eating meat likie many other veg food can induce Kama or lust(Last line is opinon of Das(vijaydeep Singh))But for Har working people it is easyly digestable thing.
akal takhat has already issued a hukamnama thatPukandi Baba said:Incorrect!
Bhai Kabir ji mentions in a shabad that anyone eating Fish/eggs/meat or takes alcohol is forbidden.
I'll find the shabad if need be.
kds1980 said:here is the shabad by guru nanak dev ji
akal takhat has already issued a hukamnama that
an amritdhari sikh can eat meat as long as it is jhatka meat.sikh history is full of hunting.her is the shabad by guru nanak dev ji which says there is nothing wrong in eating meat
Pukandi Baba said:Just in case your one of those people who claim 'But Bhagat Kabir isn't a Guru' here we have a shabad by Guru Arjan Dev Ji
Guru Arjan Dev Ji says, Pg 201
Bed PaRai mukh meeTee BaNee, Jeean kuhat na sangai praaNee.
sangai=ashamed kuhat-kill praaNee-humans Jeean-living beings After reading the entire shabad, this line depicts, that the so called learned, saintly people read the sweet hymns of the Veds using their mouths, however they do not hesitate(feel ashamed) to kill animals.
kds1980 said:"BTW that Shabad was uttered by Gurji for the benefit of the Pandits who at that time (and to this day) with their 'holy than thou' attitudes because they didn't eat meat!"
so there are different shabads in guru granth sahib for pandits,muslims.etc
please tell me which shabad is for sikhs
there is only shabad in shabad in guru granth sahib which deals with the
meat issue and that is Pukandi Baba all the other are just lines from the shabad.by quoting lines from the shabad we cannot understand the the full meaning of
the shabad. here are the lines of baba farid ji
ijnw KwDI copVI Gxy shingy duK ]28] (1379-7, slok, syK PrId jI)
jinaa khaaDhee choprhee ghanay sehnigay dukh. ||28||
Those who eat buttered bread, will suffer in terrible pain. ||28||
ruKI suKI Kwie kY TMFw pwxI pIau ] (1379-8, slok, syK PrId jI)
rukhee sukhee khaa-ay kai thandhaa paanee pee-o.
Eat dry bread, and drink cold water.
so does it means that eating buttered bread is wrong in sikhism
kds1980 said:"I know it's wrong but i'm saying Akal Purakh does not permit it! How can any religious preson condone the killing of another living thing (yes i'm aware even vegetables are living etc etc, but think logical)"
if god does not permit killing of another living being then why god created
Pukandi Baba said:Are you an animal? If you want to argue about this we'll be here forever and a day.
A lion catches it's prey and consumes it RAW, Or does it get out the 'Patila' and make 'turkha' does it, please enlighten me?? :whisling:
Now how many rabbits, cows chcikens, have you seen eating MEAT? They are created to be herbivores! (you familiar with this term, well are you?)
Now if your going to compare yourself to a 'Lion' well i tell you what, you go and catch a deer, or whatever you fancy and eat it RAW[B/]
Gurbani states a fact, humans do not need flesh to exist!!!
kds1980 said:if meat is wrong then drinking milk,honey ,using leather,wool ,silk ,using animals to pull or carry load is also wrong
Pukandi Baba said:Of course, i whole heartedly agree. I'm not here to argue just give my opinion on the matter just like you.
Although i do not agree that the cow is 'holy' that is Hindu thought and i have no interest in this whatsoever.
I've seen a few Amritdhari sikhs who wear leather, and furnish there house with leather furniture, this is wrong.
Do as you please, as long as it causes no harm to others that's my philosophy!!