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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Original" data-source="post: 214743" data-attributes="member: 14400"><p>Simranjit, as I said before, its not you who have found the path [Sikh], but rather the path who has found you. And, now that you're on the path you're likely to meet many others who are on the same path and perhaps on the same wavelength as yourself, but not necessarily of the same view n wisdom. This is understandable because there is this inborn inequality within all humans. Their intellectual n spiritual maturity is at a variance and develops with time n practice. The important thing to remember is that different tongues will speak differently of the "one" underlying reality - God. Allow your inner master to decipher all information n experiences to take you a step closer to the "ultimate reality" [anhad shabd, AS].</p><p></p><p>Anhad=Unstruck</p><p>Shabd=Sound</p><p></p><p>Q: question arises why the seers of Truth called it Unstruck Sound ?</p><p>A: Because they couldn't equate it with anything that is within the material universe, meaning, metaphysical. Now, if that is the case then does it not require non-physical means to "hear" it ? Of course it does ! Page 139 of SGGSJ confirms this, thus:</p><p></p><p>to see without eyes</p><p>hear without ears</p><p>walk without feet</p><p>work without hands</p><p>speak without tongue</p><p>die whilst living</p><p>O'Nanak recognise the Lord's command and merge with it....</p><p></p><p>Bhagat Kabir Ji describe it as a state which is beyond time n space [metaphysical] and that there is no letter in the alphabet that can describe it, thus [SGGSJ, 340].</p><p></p><p>To answer your question affirmatively, I will have to ask, has anybody at SikhNet got any of the above properties to render their statement legitimate ? I don't think so. Calling it "soundlessness" is to ascribe to it a property [noun, plural] when in actual fact AS is "attributive less", meaning, no property or quality can be ascribe to it. Put simply, its an unspeakable experience, pretty much like orgasm but out of the body.</p><p></p><p>Moving on, you've been found by the "guru" - sit back n relax and don't go chasing anhad shabd like a cat chases a mouse. The more you'll chase the further it will get [spiritual law]. Because its within you make it come out, make it sound and develop non-physical means to hear it. How ?</p><p></p><p>Follow Nanak's 3 pillar Sikhism: seva, work and meditation. And remember, just as eager as you are to hear the music of the spheres [AS], so are eager the spheres to singh for you.</p><p></p><p>More another time....until then</p><p></p><p>Hasta manana</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Original, post: 214743, member: 14400"] Simranjit, as I said before, its not you who have found the path [Sikh], but rather the path who has found you. And, now that you're on the path you're likely to meet many others who are on the same path and perhaps on the same wavelength as yourself, but not necessarily of the same view n wisdom. This is understandable because there is this inborn inequality within all humans. Their intellectual n spiritual maturity is at a variance and develops with time n practice. The important thing to remember is that different tongues will speak differently of the "one" underlying reality - God. Allow your inner master to decipher all information n experiences to take you a step closer to the "ultimate reality" [anhad shabd, AS]. Anhad=Unstruck Shabd=Sound Q: question arises why the seers of Truth called it Unstruck Sound ? A: Because they couldn't equate it with anything that is within the material universe, meaning, metaphysical. Now, if that is the case then does it not require non-physical means to "hear" it ? Of course it does ! Page 139 of SGGSJ confirms this, thus: to see without eyes hear without ears walk without feet work without hands speak without tongue die whilst living O'Nanak recognise the Lord's command and merge with it.... Bhagat Kabir Ji describe it as a state which is beyond time n space [metaphysical] and that there is no letter in the alphabet that can describe it, thus [SGGSJ, 340]. To answer your question affirmatively, I will have to ask, has anybody at SikhNet got any of the above properties to render their statement legitimate ? I don't think so. Calling it "soundlessness" is to ascribe to it a property [noun, plural] when in actual fact AS is "attributive less", meaning, no property or quality can be ascribe to it. Put simply, its an unspeakable experience, pretty much like orgasm but out of the body. Moving on, you've been found by the "guru" - sit back n relax and don't go chasing anhad shabd like a cat chases a mouse. The more you'll chase the further it will get [spiritual law]. Because its within you make it come out, make it sound and develop non-physical means to hear it. How ? Follow Nanak's 3 pillar Sikhism: seva, work and meditation. And remember, just as eager as you are to hear the music of the spheres [AS], so are eager the spheres to singh for you. More another time....until then Hasta manana [/QUOTE]
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