Security Agencies Baffled Over India PM's Talks With Canada Over Sikh Separatists

[Tejwant Singh]

SIKH SEPARATISTS

Security agencies baffled over PM's talks with Canada

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Prime minister Manmohan Singh asking his Canadian counterpart Stephen Harper in Washington to monitor surge in activities of Sikh separatists to revive militancy in Punjab has surprised the security and intelligence set up in Punjab as Canadian connections to revive militancy in Punjab so far have not emerged during interrogation of men held for any terror related activity.

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[Tejwant Singh]

SIKH SEPARATISTS: Security agencies baffled over PM's talks with Canada

SIKH SEPARATISTS

Security agencies baffled over PM's talks with Canada

<br><br>The Times of India: Latest News India, World & Business News, Cricket & Sports, Bollywood <br><br>&nbsp;Prime minister Manmohan Singh asking his Canadian counterpart Stephen Harper in Washington to monitor surge in activities of Sikh separatists to revive militancy in Punjab has surprised the security and intelligence set up in Punjab as Canadian connections to revive militancy in Punjab so far have not emerged during interrogation of men held for any terror related activity.

PM met his Candian counterpart on the sidelines of the Nuclear Security Summit at Walter E Washington Convention Centre on Monday evening. [/FONT]While it is a well known fact that some separatist elements are settled in Canada for the last several years and a general impression about them is that they stand isolated, what has surprised the security and intelligence set up in Punjab is that the issue was raised at the level of PMs, which has created a hype about its gravity when it was not at all in the focus of cops’ scanner here.

Intelligence officials revealed that though some persons had been arrested in Punjab in recent past with RDX or for their links with the terrorists, but their connections in Canada have not emerged prominently during investigations or interrogation of the accused.


The international connections revealed during interrogations indicating the links in Thailand, Malysia and Pakistan, revealed a senior Punjab Police officer.


Enquiries from police and intelligence officials disclosed that in the recent past they had not got any substantial inputs here from the ground level about surge in Canadian connections. There have been a couple of reports of some funds sent here by some Canadians but it happened around a year back, disclosed a well placed source in the police circles. “It could be entirely on the basis of inputs by RAW,” said another official.


“Some hard core separatist elements are there in Canada and they are well identified but they stand isolated. However a perturbing development for Government of India which took place in the recent past was large scale protest at Parliament Hill in Tornoto against India’s Minister of Road Transport and Highways, Kamal Nath, during his visit there. " The protestors had alleged that he was involved in the November's 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in which thousands of Sikh were massacred, said Rajinder Saini over phone, who heads Parvasi media group in Canada, while adding that on this particular issue all hardcore and as well as minded people had come on a single stage.

While the issue got prime place in Canadian media and Canadian politicians also came under pressure, New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton, MP, generated lot of heat with his letter urging his caucus not to attend any events with Kamal Nath.

Later Kamal Nath was also greeted with protest in New York and even a case was slapped on him in a court which had taken him with a surprise and he had pleaded his innocence in media while reacting to the development.

 

[spnadmin]

Re: SIKH SEPARATISTS: Security agencies baffled over PM's talks with Canada

Tejwant ji

Thanks for finding this article. It takes me back to one of my comments on a related thread in conversation with you and forum member Soul_Jyot ji.

The story regarding an upsurge in Sikh Separatist activity in Canada swamped online news venues for about 2 days. No specifics were given, and only the pm's of Canada and India were named, but without any details linked to reliable security, foreign affairs, or information gathering agencies that might be sources for reliable information.

Now we are reading that security agencies are describing themselves as baffled. Can this be true? Maybe nothing is true? Or is this a case of "plausible deniability?" Otherwise scripted as:

• "Let's create some smog around our role in a news story, after it has been released, without attaching an identity."
• "That way we can say anything we want and never be held accountable for saying it."
• "Few will ask for facts of the matter, and if we don't supply them, "facts" can never be tested to see if they are facts. "
• "The media will be our willing stooges."

I protested that news venues are permitting themselves to be purveyors of unsourced information and could well be making themselves party to disinformation or worse -- blatant, politically motivated lies.

Now given this story, what should I believe?

 

[Tejwant Singh]

Re: SIKH SEPARATISTS: Security agencies baffled over PM's talks with Canada

Tejwant ji

Thanks for finding this article. It takes me back to one of my comments on a related thread in conversation with you and forum member Soul_Jyot ji.

The story regarding an upsurge in Sikh Separatist activity in Canada swamped online news venues for about 2 days. No specifics were given, and only the pm's of Canada and India were named, but without any details linked to reliable security, foreign affairs, or information gathering agencies that might be sources for reliable information.

Now we are reading that security agencies are describing themselves as baffled. Can this be true? Maybe nothing is true? Or is this a case of "plausible deniability?" Otherwise scripted as:

• "Let's create some smog around our role in a news story, after it has been released, without attaching an identity."
• "That way we can say anything we want and never be held accountable for saying it."
• "Few will ask for facts of the matter, and if we don't supply them, "facts" can never be tested to see if they are facts. "
• "The media will be our willing stooges."

I protested that news venues are permitting themselves to be purveyors of unsourced information and could well be making themselves party to disinformation or worse -- blatant, politically motivated lies.

Now given this story, what should I believe?

Narayanjot ji,

Guru Fateh.

Well said.

Unfortunately there is no unity in the Sikhs, no where, not even among the ones living in the diaspora, no matter how long their beards are and if their kirpans match the length.

The episode in Toronto is the proof.We fight with tooth and nail to discredit SGGS, our only Guru. Praising the pornography in a book named by someone, not by our Dasam Pita but has His name shamelessly printed on it has sadly become the Sikhi de jour.

One should ask oneself a question, did any one of our other Gurus start their Dhur ki Bhani with Patshai pehli, etc etc except what is written in the book and the heading states Patshai dasvin, which is a disrespect to the SGGS, our only Guru?

So, coming back to the original point, people in India are taking advantage of this and creating more wedges among the ignorant and the saddest part is that the blame is put on the shoulder of the first Sikh Prime Minister of India, Sardar Manmohan Singh.

Only if he had the voice for his baana........

Only if we followed the SGGS, our only Guru.......

Tejwant Singh

 

[ballym]

Re: SIKH SEPARATISTS: Security agencies baffled over PM's talks with Canada

Is manmohan so dumb to act in haste?I think not. So , someone gave him brief about it. Someone interested in doing something about freedom of speeach of sikhs in Canada. Can this be linked to Kamal nath and people creating trouble at Gurudwara sikh Lehar.
Afterall there was no incident in past at this Gurudwara. Prof. Darshan singh is identified with this Gurudwara. It is well known. So, what was the motive of violence on that particular day?
Can we check antecedents of people who created this trouble? Answer may be found somewhere in Indian High commission? Someone directing from India to create some trouble to justify a brief well in time for Manmohan Singh?
Manmohan must have asked for the reason of urgency but these civil servants must have covered this point already!
That is why Punjab Police had no idea and is rightly baffled. for these reasons, either one should have separate country or just assimilate with religion of the land. No two aspiring religions co-exist without discrimination. History has proved it. Why did not we read history in 1947?
Leaders were not farsighted. Same situation is there at present. These baffled people in Punjab must understand this.
Kamal nath must be a sophiticated manipulator. That is why his name does not figure as much as tytler or sajjan.