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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 91237" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Universe out of ‘<em>Sünya</em>’ which is devoid of matter but not of energy. Hence a beautiful analogy with quantum concept of creation ‘out of nothing’ as a vacuum fluctuation is established in <em>Raga</em> <em>Maru Solhe </em>[6]:</p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>In the Primal Void (Sünya), the Infinite Lord assumed His Power</em></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>He created the air, water, earth and sky out of Sünya; </em></p> </p><p> <em>He created universe and the man in the fortress of body</em></p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">suMn klw AprMpir DwrI ]…………………</span></p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">pauxu pwxI suMnY qy swjy ] isRsit aupwie kwieAw gV rwjy ]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center">This wonderful drama of creation is elucidated further by <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/" target="_blank">Guru Nanak</a> in his mystic reverie. Surprisingly, there is a perfect correspondence between the epoch of ‘Big-Bang’ and the creation out of <em>Sünya</em> phase as enunciated in <em>Maru Solhe,</em> the most beautiful hymn on <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/" target="_blank">Sikh</a> Cosmology [7]:</p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>There are millions and millions of galaxies and solar systems in the universe. The phenomenon of creation has occurred so many times. But the one Lord remains for ever and ever.”</em></p> </p><p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">keI koit KwxI Aru KMf ] keI koit Akws bRhmMf ]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">keI koit hoey Avqwr ] keI jugiq kIno ibsQwr]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">keI bwr psirE pwswr] sdw sdw ieku eykMkwr] </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'"></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> </p><p> <strong>No body knows about it, even the so called scientists do not know fully about the mystery of its expansion or inevitable suspension. Guru is aware of it and says, He created and ended and created, there is no final word about it and there would not either in future.. That is another verification of the Lord <u>being infinite</u>. In the following quote, again Guru ji doesn’t participate in assuming but he is expressing all seen and unseen, is actually the <u>Infinite</u>. Science tries to prove the seen realty and its existence, but the supreme enlightened one, expresses the purpose of the realty and never act like mediocre being. <u>So Guru Nanak didn’t either. J</u>ust look at the following quotes that proves what I am saying</strong></p><p> The universe is still expanding since the Big Bang occurred. And no limit has been established according to the present day knowledge of science. <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/" target="_blank">Guru Nanak</a> explains infiniteness of universe in his own inimitable style after rejecting the hypotheses put forward by religions of both the oriental and occidental traditions, as follows [9]: </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>There are hundreds of thousands of nether worlds,</em></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>and hundreds of thousands of skies.</em></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>After great research the Vedas have failed to say it definitely.</em></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>The Semitic books say that there are eighteen thousand worlds,</em></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><em>and they claim it is the factual truth.</em></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws ]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">EVk EVk Bwil Qky vyd khin iek vwq ]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">shs ATwrh khin kqybw AsulU ieku Dwqu ]</span></p> </p><p> <strong>In Here, there are a few questions that create curiosity about all this, look how Guru ji answers those, he is very aware what he says and remains glued to the truth instead of going into assumptions.</strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center">In <em>Siddh-Goshit</em> [13-14], <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/" target="_blank">Guru Nanak</a> answers the queries of <em>Siddhas</em> regarding creation of life, mind and the universe as follows:</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Q.1 When this heart and the body did not exist, where did the mind reside?</p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'">jw iehu ihrdw dyh n hoqI qau mnu kYTY rhqw]</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">A.1 When the heart and the body did not exist, O hermit, then the mind resided with Absolute Lord in the void.</p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'">ihrdw dyh n hoqI AauDU qau mnu suMn rhY bYrwgI ]</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">Q.2 What is the root, the source of life?</p> <p style="text-align: center">What teachings hold for these times?</p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'">kvx mUlu kvx miq vylw]</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: Red">A.2 <strong>Pray Sir, it is air that supports life. </strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: Red"><strong>And, the true <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/" target="_blank">Guru</a>’s message is the creed of the day.</strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: Red"><strong></strong></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharHeavy'"><span style="color: Red">pvn ArMBu siqgur miq vyl</span>w]</span></strong></p> </p><p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">AMfj jyrj auqBujW KwxI syqjWh]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">so imiq jwxY nwnkw srW myrW jMqwh]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">nwnk jMq aupwie kY sMmwly sBnwh]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center">“Egg born, womb born, earth born and heat born; are all created by You.</p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center">I have seen one glory of Yours, that You are pervading and permeating in all”.</p> </p><p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">AMfj jyrj auqBuj syqj qyry kIqy jMqw]</span></p> </p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniWebThick'">eyk purb mY qyrw dyiKAw qU sBnw mwih rvMqw ]</span></p> </p><p> <strong>If Guru Nanak Dev says about Lord’s creation a reality, he also says in Assa Dee Vaar, that if all this comes in the way of uniting with the Lord, it is False</strong> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੂੜੁ ਰਾਜਾ ਕੂੜੁ ਪਰਜਾ ਕੂੜੁ ਸਭੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ </span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: black">Kū</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṛ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"> rājā kū</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṛ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"> parjā kū</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṛ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"> sab</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"> sansār.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: black">False is the king, false are the subjects; false is the whole world.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਃ </span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">1</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong>..( Assa Dee Vaar)</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>I again want to stress here that Guru doesn’t verify here how many kinds of lives are there but addressing already prevailed idea to prove that nothing is created beyond the Lord.. He is the creator of all, seen or unseen creation that include visible universe and those we just don’t know. Same basic fundamental idea, how any one with limited body and soul can express <u>His infinity?</u> Guru remains aware of it all the time using a word “appaar(Infinite) repeatedly for the Lord. Sikhs do not need to be in race of religious dreamers to prove that our religion is scientific. Isn’t it enough proof that almost on every where in Sree Guru Granth Sahib, universal appeals are there to all humanity regardless the claimed race or color. Why? Answer is to be found in Lord’s being “Nirgun and Sargun( Out of and in the Creation itself) and be NIRVAIR.</strong></p><p> <strong>Guru Nanak is so big that no one can reduce his vision into small claims expressed in the article. Sorry to disagree strongly with the author )</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>( Note: I am aware some out there are willing to grill me but my purpose is not to criticize H.S. Virk ji and others who are into this race. Personally I thank him for sharing his thoughts. I just want to say that Sikhism doesn’t need support from science, religion is a choice of the soul, Sikhism guarantees to experience the Inexpressible while being alive if the True Guru is followed from heart. That is enough.)</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 91237, member: 5889"] Universe out of ‘[I]Sünya[/I]’ which is devoid of matter but not of energy. Hence a beautiful analogy with quantum concept of creation ‘out of nothing’ as a vacuum fluctuation is established in [I]Raga[/I] [I]Maru Solhe [/I][6]: [CENTER][CENTER][I]In the Primal Void (Sünya), the Infinite Lord assumed His Power[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][I]He created the air, water, earth and sky out of Sünya; [/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [I]He created universe and the man in the fortress of body[/I] [FONT=GurbaniWebThick]suMn klw AprMpir DwrI ]…………………[/FONT] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]pauxu pwxI suMnY qy swjy ] isRsit aupwie kwieAw gV rwjy ][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER]This wonderful drama of creation is elucidated further by [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/"]Guru Nanak[/URL] in his mystic reverie. Surprisingly, there is a perfect correspondence between the epoch of ‘Big-Bang’ and the creation out of [I]Sünya[/I] phase as enunciated in [I]Maru Solhe,[/I] the most beautiful hymn on [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/"]Sikh[/URL] Cosmology [7]:[/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][I]There are millions and millions of galaxies and solar systems in the universe. The phenomenon of creation has occurred so many times. But the one Lord remains for ever and ever.”[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]keI koit KwxI Aru KMf ] keI koit Akws bRhmMf ][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]keI koit hoey Avqwr ] keI jugiq kIno ibsQwr][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]keI bwr psirE pwswr] sdw sdw ieku eykMkwr] [/FONT] [/CENTER] [/CENTER] [B]No body knows about it, even the so called scientists do not know fully about the mystery of its expansion or inevitable suspension. Guru is aware of it and says, He created and ended and created, there is no final word about it and there would not either in future.. That is another verification of the Lord [U]being infinite[/U]. In the following quote, again Guru ji doesn’t participate in assuming but he is expressing all seen and unseen, is actually the [U]Infinite[/U]. Science tries to prove the seen realty and its existence, but the supreme enlightened one, expresses the purpose of the realty and never act like mediocre being. [U]So Guru Nanak didn’t either. J[/U]ust look at the following quotes that proves what I am saying[/B] The universe is still expanding since the Big Bang occurred. And no limit has been established according to the present day knowledge of science. [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/"]Guru Nanak[/URL] explains infiniteness of universe in his own inimitable style after rejecting the hypotheses put forward by religions of both the oriental and occidental traditions, as follows [9]: [CENTER][CENTER][I]There are hundreds of thousands of nether worlds,[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][I]and hundreds of thousands of skies.[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][I]After great research the Vedas have failed to say it definitely.[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][I]The Semitic books say that there are eighteen thousand worlds,[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][I]and they claim it is the factual truth.[/I][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]pwqwlw pwqwl lK Awgwsw Awgws ][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]EVk EVk Bwil Qky vyd khin iek vwq ][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]shs ATwrh khin kqybw AsulU ieku Dwqu ][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [B]In Here, there are a few questions that create curiosity about all this, look how Guru ji answers those, he is very aware what he says and remains glued to the truth instead of going into assumptions.[/B] [CENTER][CENTER]In [I]Siddh-Goshit[/I] [13-14], [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/"]Guru Nanak[/URL] answers the queries of [I]Siddhas[/I] regarding creation of life, mind and the universe as follows: Q.1 When this heart and the body did not exist, where did the mind reside? [FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy]jw iehu ihrdw dyh n hoqI qau mnu kYTY rhqw][/FONT] A.1 When the heart and the body did not exist, O hermit, then the mind resided with Absolute Lord in the void. [FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy]ihrdw dyh n hoqI AauDU qau mnu suMn rhY bYrwgI ][/FONT] Q.2 What is the root, the source of life? What teachings hold for these times? [FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy]kvx mUlu kvx miq vylw][/FONT] [COLOR=Red]A.2 [B]Pray Sir, it is air that supports life. And, the true [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/"]Guru[/URL]’s message is the creed of the day. [/B][/COLOR][B][FONT=GurbaniAkharHeavy][COLOR=Red]pvn ArMBu siqgur miq vyl[/COLOR]w][/FONT][/B][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]AMfj jyrj auqBujW KwxI syqjWh][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]so imiq jwxY nwnkw srW myrW jMqwh][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]nwnk jMq aupwie kY sMmwly sBnwh][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER]“Egg born, womb born, earth born and heat born; are all created by You.[/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER]I have seen one glory of Yours, that You are pervading and permeating in all”.[/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]AMfj jyrj auqBuj syqj qyry kIqy jMqw][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [CENTER][CENTER][FONT=GurbaniWebThick]eyk purb mY qyrw dyiKAw qU sBnw mwih rvMqw ][/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [B]If Guru Nanak Dev says about Lord’s creation a reality, he also says in Assa Dee Vaar, that if all this comes in the way of uniting with the Lord, it is False[/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਕੂੜੁ ਰਾਜਾ ਕੂੜੁ ਪਰਜਾ ਕੂੜੁ ਸਭੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=black]Kū[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṛ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] rājā kū[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṛ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] parjā kū[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ṛ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] sab[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black] sansār.[/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=black]False is the king, false are the subjects; false is the whole world.[/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Raavi]ਮਃ [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=green][FONT=AnmolUniPr]1[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B]..( Assa Dee Vaar)[/B] [B]I again want to stress here that Guru doesn’t verify here how many kinds of lives are there but addressing already prevailed idea to prove that nothing is created beyond the Lord.. He is the creator of all, seen or unseen creation that include visible universe and those we just don’t know. Same basic fundamental idea, how any one with limited body and soul can express [U]His infinity?[/U] Guru remains aware of it all the time using a word “appaar(Infinite) repeatedly for the Lord. Sikhs do not need to be in race of religious dreamers to prove that our religion is scientific. Isn’t it enough proof that almost on every where in Sree Guru Granth Sahib, universal appeals are there to all humanity regardless the claimed race or color. Why? Answer is to be found in Lord’s being “Nirgun and Sargun( Out of and in the Creation itself) and be NIRVAIR.[/B] [B]Guru Nanak is so big that no one can reduce his vision into small claims expressed in the article. Sorry to disagree strongly with the author )[/B] [B]( Note: I am aware some out there are willing to grill me but my purpose is not to criticize H.S. Virk ji and others who are into this race. Personally I thank him for sharing his thoughts. I just want to say that Sikhism doesn’t need support from science, religion is a choice of the soul, Sikhism guarantees to experience the Inexpressible while being alive if the True Guru is followed from heart. That is enough.)[/B] [/QUOTE]
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