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<blockquote data-quote="Dr Karminder Singh" data-source="post: 220395" data-attributes="member: 9642"><p>The following comment on social media provides a <em>seemingly</em> valid argument pertaining to portraits of our Gurus. My response follows.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>An artist is able to express what philosophies cannot. An Artist has an aesthetic experience in which he/she surrenders to “it” with no other intention than the beauty of that experience in itself. Given, our Gurus were human beings and expressed likewise doesn’t mean they’re belittled or have become icons of murti pooja (idol worship), but rather part and parcel of our everyday lives. And just as photos of our loved ones are displayed in our homes so too are the portraits of our Gurus.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>My Response.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The argument is defective when it comes to a philosophy (Gurmat) that strives to draw a line between the message and the messenger. In Sikhi, the philosophy is paramount; the philosopher reduces himself to nothing. The message is supreme, the messenger desires a status of non-entity. The value and belief is everything; the messenger reduces his position to nothing-ness. This notion is found all over the philosophy of Gurbani and within the messages of the Shabd.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਹਉ ਆਪਹੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਨ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਮੈ ਕਹਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਹੁਕਮਾਉ ਜੀਉ ॥ <strong>Haon Apho</strong> Bol <strong>Na Jannda</strong> Mein Kaheya Sabh Hukmao Jio. SGGS 763.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਹਉ ਨਹੀ ਕਿਛੁ ਆਹਿ ਨ ਮੋਰਾ ॥ <strong>Mein Nahi(n)</strong> Kach Hao(n) Nhi Kich Ahe Na Mora. SGGS 858.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਸਭਿ ਗੁਣ ਤੇਰੇ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕੋਇ ॥ Sabh Gunn Teyrey <strong>Mein Nahi(n)</strong> Koey. SGGS 4</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਆਹਿ ਨ ਮੋਰਾ ॥ <strong>Mei(n) Nahi(n)</strong> Kach Ahe Na Mora. SGGS 337</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਤੂੰ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਰਣਾ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਾ ਹਉ ਕਰੀ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥ Tu Karta Karnna <strong>Mein Nahi(n)</strong> Ha Hao(n) Kree Na Hoyi. GGS 469</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਜਬ ਹਮ ਹੋਤੇ ਤਬ ਤੂ ਨਾਹੀ ਅਬ ਤੂਹੀ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ Jub Hum Hotey Tan Tu Nahi(n) Ab Tuh(n) <strong>Mein Nahi(n).</strong> SGGS 657</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤੇਰਾ ॥ <strong>Mein Nahi(n)</strong> Prabh Sabh Kich Tera. SGGS 827</p><p></p><p></p><p>From the above sampling of verses, one gets the clear message that Gurmat is a philosophy that strives hard to obliterate the status, position and standing of the messenger. <strong>Mein Nahin –</strong>I am not, I am nothing, the messenger is of no significance.</p><p></p><p></p><p>None of the 35 writers of Gurbani left even the faintest of clues as to their full names, that of their parents, their spouses, their families, their place of birth etc. None of our Gurus indulged in having their portraits created. Surely amongst their followers, there would have existed many a good artist as there were poets, musicians and skilled persons in other arts to record details of their physical likeness. It is not that they could not. But that they were disallowed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It is the tragedy of Sikhs that instead of linking with the messages, we have strived to link with the physical identity of the messengers – the identities they sought so hard to obliterate. They sought to obliterate their own personal human identities so that we could learn to do the <em>same</em> to ours and not indulge in the egoistic inflation of our own.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In our own desire for self-indulgence and self-grandiose, we have sought to transfer the same to our Gurus. In our own egoistical desire for portraits, pictures, paintings and drawings of our own selves, we have sought to create the same for our Gurus. To the extent that we have accepted artists’ impressions that are as fake as the one artist who created a self-portrait and passed it off as Guru Nanak’s. All of us Sikhs. including our premier institutions such as SGPC were fooled into giving this fake portrait a place in our homes, gurdwaras and psyche.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]21012[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><em>Guru Nanak as painted by artist Sobha Singh or a Self Potrait of Sobha Singh passed off as Guru Nanak?</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>The statement that “an artist is able to express what philosophies cannot” needs to be examined to expose the falsity of the premise. In the case of our Gurus, our artists have expressed what our philosophy did <em>not want</em> to express. The portraits of Guru Nanak are shown ordained with rosaries, offerings and ornamentations that have been <em>critiqued</em> in their messages. The portraits of Guru Nanak tell the lie of a non-existent companion Bhai Bala. The wide acceptability of these portraits help establish the lie of the <em>Janm Sakhis</em> under the name of Bhai Bala. The eventual outcome is a philosophy that exists within the message of the Gurus side by side a contradictory philosophy that the artists have created for us in their portraits.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The statement that “an artist has an aesthetic experience in which he/she surrenders to “it” with no other intention than the beauty of that experience in itself,” holds the biggest lie when it comes to Sikhi. What aesthetic experience can an artist have – if he has not read or understood the crux of the messages of the Guru that he paints? What kind of surrender can one talk about in the act of an artist painting the image of an individual who <em>expressly</em> <em>forbade</em> such in the first instant? The only intention that remains is either a monetary reward from the sale of such fakery or a purposive one to corrupt the philosophy of Gurmat.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]21013[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><em>The mythical entity in the person of Bala was made into a “historical reality” – thanks to the “aesthetic” experience of the artist. The acceptance of the non-existant Bala led to the acceptance of another heretical and blasphemous text called Bhai Baley Wali Janm Sakhi. </em></p><p></p><p></p><p>To say that our Gurus have not been “belittled or become icons of <em>murti pooja </em>given that our Gurus were human beings,” is an expression of ignorance of what our Gurus said, preached and wrote out for us – as human beings. A study of Gurbani in relation to <em>morti pooja</em> will point out the fallacy of such a view.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The statement that “and just as photos of our loved ones are displayed in our homes so too are the portraits of our Gurus,” is defective because it is the case of comparing apples with bananas. We <em>want</em> our photos to be displayed, and we understand that our loved ones <em>wanted</em> them to be. We go to great lengths to <em>create</em> our own photos to <em>leave behind</em>, so that they can be displayed. Such is the essence of our fallible human-ness; one that is centred on our innate ego.</p><p></p><p></p><p>On the other hand, our Guru have told us amply – both through their messages and their own conduct – that they wanted no such thing. And if our Gurus did go to great lengths to do anything – it was to ensure their pictures, paintings, and sculptures were <em>never</em> made.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]21014[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]21015[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><em>An artist is able to express what philosophies cannot?</em> This is one case of an artist expressing what Sikh philosophy DID NOT want expressed. While Gurbani tells us that God is Within us, this artist has been able to imitate a portrait of another prophet depicting our Guru “praying to a God sitting high up in the heavens”!</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]21016[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]21017[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Here is another case of an artist who has relied on a propaganda poster of Napoleon Bonaparte to express something Sikh philosophy never needs. Napoleon’s portrait is an attempt by a 5 feet tall general to give himself a false stature of height and power. The picture of him on a horse with its fore limbs up gives him just that. He had an artist paint the background showing dark clouds – to show he was leading France away from dark times. He had his finger pointed upwards to show he was leading France into the future.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do we need such a “philosophy “to be associated with Guru Gobind Singh? Be we have, thanks to the “aesthetic experience” of a plagiarist artist.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally, if painted portraits of our Gurus are fine, then what do we say of stone, metal or wooden statues of them. Going one step further, what about human beings who claim to be embodiments of our Gurus?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr Karminder Singh, post: 220395, member: 9642"] The following comment on social media provides a [I]seemingly[/I] valid argument pertaining to portraits of our Gurus. My response follows. [I]An artist is able to express what philosophies cannot. An Artist has an aesthetic experience in which he/she surrenders to “it” with no other intention than the beauty of that experience in itself. Given, our Gurus were human beings and expressed likewise doesn’t mean they’re belittled or have become icons of murti pooja (idol worship), but rather part and parcel of our everyday lives. And just as photos of our loved ones are displayed in our homes so too are the portraits of our Gurus.[/I] My Response. The argument is defective when it comes to a philosophy (Gurmat) that strives to draw a line between the message and the messenger. In Sikhi, the philosophy is paramount; the philosopher reduces himself to nothing. The message is supreme, the messenger desires a status of non-entity. The value and belief is everything; the messenger reduces his position to nothing-ness. This notion is found all over the philosophy of Gurbani and within the messages of the Shabd. ਹਉ ਆਪਹੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਨ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਮੈ ਕਹਿਆ ਸਭੁ ਹੁਕਮਾਉ ਜੀਉ ॥ [B]Haon Apho[/B] Bol [B]Na Jannda[/B] Mein Kaheya Sabh Hukmao Jio. SGGS 763. ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਹਉ ਨਹੀ ਕਿਛੁ ਆਹਿ ਨ ਮੋਰਾ ॥ [B]Mein Nahi(n)[/B] Kach Hao(n) Nhi Kich Ahe Na Mora. SGGS 858. ਸਭਿ ਗੁਣ ਤੇਰੇ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕੋਇ ॥ Sabh Gunn Teyrey [B]Mein Nahi(n)[/B] Koey. SGGS 4 ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਆਹਿ ਨ ਮੋਰਾ ॥ [B]Mei(n) Nahi(n)[/B] Kach Ahe Na Mora. SGGS 337 ਤੂੰ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਰਣਾ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਾ ਹਉ ਕਰੀ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥ Tu Karta Karnna [B]Mein Nahi(n)[/B] Ha Hao(n) Kree Na Hoyi. GGS 469 ਜਬ ਹਮ ਹੋਤੇ ਤਬ ਤੂ ਨਾਹੀ ਅਬ ਤੂਹੀ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ Jub Hum Hotey Tan Tu Nahi(n) Ab Tuh(n) [B]Mein Nahi(n).[/B] SGGS 657 ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤੇਰਾ ॥ [B]Mein Nahi(n)[/B] Prabh Sabh Kich Tera. SGGS 827 From the above sampling of verses, one gets the clear message that Gurmat is a philosophy that strives hard to obliterate the status, position and standing of the messenger. [B]Mein Nahin –[/B]I am not, I am nothing, the messenger is of no significance. None of the 35 writers of Gurbani left even the faintest of clues as to their full names, that of their parents, their spouses, their families, their place of birth etc. None of our Gurus indulged in having their portraits created. Surely amongst their followers, there would have existed many a good artist as there were poets, musicians and skilled persons in other arts to record details of their physical likeness. It is not that they could not. But that they were disallowed. It is the tragedy of Sikhs that instead of linking with the messages, we have strived to link with the physical identity of the messengers – the identities they sought so hard to obliterate. They sought to obliterate their own personal human identities so that we could learn to do the [I]same[/I] to ours and not indulge in the egoistic inflation of our own. In our own desire for self-indulgence and self-grandiose, we have sought to transfer the same to our Gurus. In our own egoistical desire for portraits, pictures, paintings and drawings of our own selves, we have sought to create the same for our Gurus. To the extent that we have accepted artists’ impressions that are as fake as the one artist who created a self-portrait and passed it off as Guru Nanak’s. All of us Sikhs. including our premier institutions such as SGPC were fooled into giving this fake portrait a place in our homes, gurdwaras and psyche. [ATTACH type="full" width="575px" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-12 at 1.53.40 PM.png"]21012[/ATTACH] [I]Guru Nanak as painted by artist Sobha Singh or a Self Potrait of Sobha Singh passed off as Guru Nanak?[/I] The statement that “an artist is able to express what philosophies cannot” needs to be examined to expose the falsity of the premise. In the case of our Gurus, our artists have expressed what our philosophy did [I]not want[/I] to express. The portraits of Guru Nanak are shown ordained with rosaries, offerings and ornamentations that have been [I]critiqued[/I] in their messages. The portraits of Guru Nanak tell the lie of a non-existent companion Bhai Bala. The wide acceptability of these portraits help establish the lie of the [I]Janm Sakhis[/I] under the name of Bhai Bala. The eventual outcome is a philosophy that exists within the message of the Gurus side by side a contradictory philosophy that the artists have created for us in their portraits. The statement that “an artist has an aesthetic experience in which he/she surrenders to “it” with no other intention than the beauty of that experience in itself,” holds the biggest lie when it comes to Sikhi. What aesthetic experience can an artist have – if he has not read or understood the crux of the messages of the Guru that he paints? What kind of surrender can one talk about in the act of an artist painting the image of an individual who [I]expressly[/I] [I]forbade[/I] such in the first instant? The only intention that remains is either a monetary reward from the sale of such fakery or a purposive one to corrupt the philosophy of Gurmat. [ATTACH type="full" width="571px"]21013[/ATTACH] [I]The mythical entity in the person of Bala was made into a “historical reality” – thanks to the “aesthetic” experience of the artist. The acceptance of the non-existant Bala led to the acceptance of another heretical and blasphemous text called Bhai Baley Wali Janm Sakhi. [/I] To say that our Gurus have not been “belittled or become icons of [I]murti pooja [/I]given that our Gurus were human beings,” is an expression of ignorance of what our Gurus said, preached and wrote out for us – as human beings. A study of Gurbani in relation to [I]morti pooja[/I] will point out the fallacy of such a view. The statement that “and just as photos of our loved ones are displayed in our homes so too are the portraits of our Gurus,” is defective because it is the case of comparing apples with bananas. We [I]want[/I] our photos to be displayed, and we understand that our loved ones [I]wanted[/I] them to be. We go to great lengths to [I]create[/I] our own photos to [I]leave behind[/I], so that they can be displayed. Such is the essence of our fallible human-ness; one that is centred on our innate ego. On the other hand, our Guru have told us amply – both through their messages and their own conduct – that they wanted no such thing. And if our Gurus did go to great lengths to do anything – it was to ensure their pictures, paintings, and sculptures were [I]never[/I] made. [ATTACH type="full" width="577px" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-12 at 1.53.58 PM.png"]21014[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" width="577px" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-12 at 1.54.08 PM.png"]21015[/ATTACH] [I]An artist is able to express what philosophies cannot?[/I] This is one case of an artist expressing what Sikh philosophy DID NOT want expressed. While Gurbani tells us that God is Within us, this artist has been able to imitate a portrait of another prophet depicting our Guru “praying to a God sitting high up in the heavens”! [ATTACH type="full" width="574px" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-12 at 1.54.16 PM.png"]21016[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" width="576px" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-12 at 1.54.24 PM.png"]21017[/ATTACH] Here is another case of an artist who has relied on a propaganda poster of Napoleon Bonaparte to express something Sikh philosophy never needs. Napoleon’s portrait is an attempt by a 5 feet tall general to give himself a false stature of height and power. The picture of him on a horse with its fore limbs up gives him just that. He had an artist paint the background showing dark clouds – to show he was leading France away from dark times. He had his finger pointed upwards to show he was leading France into the future. Do we need such a “philosophy “to be associated with Guru Gobind Singh? Be we have, thanks to the “aesthetic experience” of a plagiarist artist. Finally, if painted portraits of our Gurus are fine, then what do we say of stone, metal or wooden statues of them. Going one step further, what about human beings who claim to be embodiments of our Gurus? [/QUOTE]
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Photos of Gurus – Aesthetic Experience or Distorting Sikhi?
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