No Sikh Superheroes? Why Not? And What Can We Do About It?

[BhagatSingh]

I wanna see some real superheroes…injected with emotion other than affection…you know a wild card…no telling what the persons gonna do…maybe he lets the pretty girl fall to her death because he gets lazy, or he gets distracted by another pretty girl while flying to the scene rolleyes: boy, if I got nickel for everytime thats happened to me). (When is the last time you’ve seen something like that happen in the mainstream comic book world?)

Me likey!
Just wait till one of my comics comes out! :}{}{}:

You good for another 20 years?

 

[spnadmin]

Dear veer ji

I thought the last Spiderman movie showed an amoral, self-absorbed, slightly alienated 30 something who never did to the end of the movie completely understand how his narcissistic attachment to his past got in the way of genuine relationships with people who cared about him.

 

[spnadmin]

And I hope that the up and coming Sikh Superheros protect themselves spiritually from this kind of descent into Ego.

 

[spnadmin]

You know, I just thought of a possible example of how art could imitate art without a descent into ego. Do you recall when Waris Singh played the part of nature photographer in "The Life Aquatic?"

Just about very major character in the film was a buffoon of some kind or another except Waris. He was silent throughout the film, listening to the sounds of the natural and the unnatural no doubt. But then in the Jacques Cousteau films the photographers never do talk. Of course, there was one unfortunate moment when he was photographing an underwater scene without keski and his hair was floating all over the place. I guess that could be modified in some way in the superhero version.

 

[BhagatSingh]

You know, I just thought of a possible example of how art could imitate art without a descent into ego. Do you recall when Waris Singh played the part of nature photographer in "The Life Aquatic?"

Just about very major character in the film was a buffoon of some kind or another except Waris. He was silent throughout the film, listening to the sounds of the natural and the unnatural no doubt. But then in the Jacques Cousteau films the photographers never do talk. Of course, there was one unfortunate

unfortunate??

moment when he was photographing an underwater scene without keski and his hair was floating all over the place. I guess that could be modified in some way in the superhero version.

What do u mean?
You totally lost me with this comment.

 

[spnadmin]

Bhagat ji,

This comment has to do with something I read on another thread where you are "not allowed" to go around with your hair flowing in the elements. Read it again. Maybe I was too "tongue in cheek."

 

[BhagatSingh]

Bhagat ji,

This comment has to do with something I read on another thread where you are "not allowed" to go around with your hair flowing in the elements. Read it again.

Ya I got that bit. But modified so he has a keski or modified in some other way?

Maybe I was too "tongue in cheek."

I have no idea what tongue in cheek means. :hmm:

 

[spnadmin]

Ya I got that bit. But modified so he has a keski or modified in some other way?



I have no idea what tongue in cheek means. :hmm:

Means I was not to be taken too seriously. Just slightly seriously

 

[Sinister]

Dear veer ji

I thought the last Spiderman movie showed an amoral, self-absorbed, slightly alienated 30 something who never did to the end of the movie completely understand how his narcissistic attachment to his past got in the way of genuine relationships with people who cared about him.

ummm…Spiderman 3 was just like the other two movies. That was the problem with these series…it makes the message of amorality so obvious; black and white.

Evil vs Good is entertaining sometimes, but I also like it when the lines between the two are muffled…you know…art displaying life/reality.

How about Evil vs Evil (like it happens in the real world) or Good vs Good…challenge the audience in their morality rather than telling them what is good and what isn’t. Through some cheap story of tragedy the writers make their messages all too obvious...which is not good art

Society and so-called “art” also needs to stop telling us what traits to look up to and who our heroes should be.

Art is anarchy Aad ji, if it displays ego, so be it, it’s ok and its natural.
If an artist is trying to create something using restrictions (Even “not descending into ego” is a restriction)…its no longer art…it is subtle politics (in my category).

PS:
Spiderman himself never took a turn, but he was portrayed as a victim of some foreign goo (called ‘a symbiote”), which made him behave the way he did. An uncanny force beyond our power to comprehend, which mimics its victim; The evil came from outside him. The opportunistic blob also had a will of its own.

Spiderman 3 was the same as 1 and 2 (all of them painful to watch at times)


Example of funny art while descending into ego:

source:
GameSetWatch

now that's good comedy!...a character who is human ... a superhero that is beleivable emotionally (despite the fact he is not believable materially)

what we do not need is more movies that are shamelessly manipulative in technique and beats you to death with opinions and plastic messages...(as are most hollywood/bollywood productions)

cheers

 

[spnadmin]

Ok, I will not argue. But to say that sometimes Good meets Good is also part of the real world too.

 

[Randip Singh]

Many years ago at Uni, a friend of mine and me started to create a charachter for the X-men series of comics that was Sikh.

We did sketches and everything......I dunno what happened to it....perhaps someone is making millions off it :happy:

 

[BhagatSingh]

Many years ago at Uni, a friend of mine and me started to create a charachter for the X-men series of comics that was Sikh.

We did sketches and everything......I dunno what happened to it....perhaps someone is making millions off it :happy:

Sikh X-Men now where have I heard that before?:}{}{}: *points down at sig*

 

[BhagatSingh]

I just had some crazy ideas about a game, comics and/or movie on Nihangs!

Nihang Animal Specialist:Nihang - Diablo 3 by ~prince911 on deviantART
suggest to diablo 3, I doubt they'll use it. This one's a barbarian/paladin type.

Akali Snake Charmer:Akali Art: Akali : Snake Charmer
(this one done by a friend who used to be in Sarbloh Warriors team)
his art gave me some amazing ideas, that I suggested to Diablo 3, as well. I doubt they'll use either one. This one's a necromancer.

Nihang Jungle Druid: (will draw out and post concept art) Needless to say this one's a druid.

 

[BhagatSingh]

Ok, I will not argue. But to say that sometimes Good meets Good is also part of the real world too.

I think Sinister Ji mentioned Good vs Good as well.
Good vs Good would be quite interesting. Imagine if one Good kills the other Good. oooh

 

[spnadmin]

Yes he did mention Good vs Good. And how would that work? So I changed it to Good meets Good. But don't have an answer for you veer ji.

 

[BhagatSingh]

Yes he did mention Good vs Good. And how would that work? So I changed it to Good meets Good. But don't have an answer for you veer ji.

oops misread what you said, hmm Good meets Good, well that happens quite often actually e.g. Xmen, Justic League, etc if that's what you meant(teaming up).

Bad meets Bad is also quite common, this usually leads to Good meets Good.

 

[spnadmin]

As always a thoughtful comment from your direction.

 

[Sinister]

Yes he did mention Good vs Good. And how would that work? So I changed it to Good meets Good. But don't have an answer for you veer ji.

how would Good Vs Good work?

Well ...case scenario:
Two good friends compete in a 100m dash (good vs good)...separate interests...same goal ...gives ? you guessed it competition.

the operating word is Vs (versus)... which denotes... that a conflict of interest has taken place or a tension has been created….SUSPENCE!...it gives agency.

it’s the correct literary device and it does make sense.

Good meets Good is also art…but it is nothing more than small talk (interaction without agency).

A: "HI"
B: "WHY, Hello"
A: "Great weather"
B: "yes, it is a wonderful day, just like yesterday...I love what you are wearing"
A: "Oh thankyou...i got it on sale"
B: "really? where from?"
A: "at walmart"
B: "Marvelous, i love that store"
A: "so do I, i hangout there all the time"
B: "thats wonderful"
BLAH BLAH BLAH, YAP YAP YAP!.. shut the hell up :shutup:

small talk is not very good for creating intricate plots and climatic scenes.

Good vs good is also further understandable/appreciable if you believe that morality is a paradox ...with moral relativism
-if you create a mood of helplessness and you pass off a story in which society displays moral relativism...you can easily have a good vs good scenario.

cheers

 

[Sinister]

My favorite Superhero!!!! :happy:

YouTube - Mike Jittlov: The Wizard of Speed and Time (1983-1986)

Godspeed green wizard!

doesnt he just make you all warm and fuzzy inside? :shy:

 

[spnadmin]

My favorite Superhero!!!! :happy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLsbx4D8eI
Godspeed green wizard!

doesnt he just make you all warm and fuzzy inside? :shy:

Definitely. No lie.