Re: Nanak is the Guru, Nanak is the Lord Himself.
QUOTE nrkalee
Dear sir:
I am sorry to burst your private little bubble.
You haven’t done anything save for a display of your limited understanding about Sikhism.
But Nanak is not God.
A lot of Sikhs revere Guru Nanak as a Guru exceptionally able to lead to Truth which was covered with dreamer’s scriptures before him. So, first you must understand this very truth.
For that matter, he is not even a proper guru.
Obviously your word” proper” says it all, in the context of Guru, even this word “ proper” doesn’t suit in negative way either; it should be either true Guru or fake Guru.
If you study his teachings carefully, you will find to your disappointment that Nanak was merely home grown 'godman.'
Home grown Godman? Are there any out of space Godmen too? Are you shy of naming them? Obviously it is your hate that oozes out instead of showing any reason to support your views; dreamers can never realize the reality of centuries, still they are in slumber as numerous were before Guru Nanak.
He had a liking for this line of activity,
You have just admitted that Guru Nanak had a line of activity, do you see the originality can never be covered up with hate coming of frustrated mind? Here I remember Arya Smaji Daya Nand’s frustration and hatred very similar to yours.
a fondness to wandering about singing bhajans, etc.,
Singing Bhajan, of the almighty is quite contrary to prevailed trade in religion in his times; that only makes Him original by your own statement. If Guru Nanak had not started this, a lot of Indian population would have been serving in desert as slaves even today, he deserves thanks at least.
but at the end of the day, he simply was not qualified, or bona fide for the simple reason that he did not learn his ideologies from an established school of thought. Rather, he borrowed his ideologies for here there and everywhere and made up his own private version.
Spirituality achievement doesn’t come with special schools, if it had been like that, Hindus would have been leaders of the world today in religious field but sadly they are well known as worshipers of deities and promoters of disgusting tradition of caste system and exploitation of common people in context of religion and social set up. What kind of science and spirituality you are talking about? Many prophets of big religions were not trained in a school.
Immanuel Kant, one of the great philosophic system builders of all times, comes face to face with this question” what is knowledge?’ and how it is possible?” What really can we know and how?” He concludes that we can know only through experiences ( S.E. Frost Jr). That limits the idea of school for spiritual pursuit. Spirituality is totally wrapped in personal experience not in the curriculum of any school.
The science of self realization is a subtle science. Most think that they can ‘wing it.’ but really, you can’t. You may not be able to discern it. But those who know, will immediately tell you, “this man is winging it.” He does not really know.
He is not winging but tearing apart established dominance of so called educated hypocrites. First time, as put by Dr Iqbal, a Muslim scholar and poet compliments on dominance of Guru Nanak in the field of religion in India”, Hindustan was awakened a by a real man(Guru Nanak) from deep slumber". Your spiritual scientists did it otherwise if you are really aware of it.
So, don’t be a idiot and make him God now.
As told earlier Guru Nanak is highly revered by Sikhs as their true Guru , you are saying they are calling Him God, you neither understand metaphor nor what Sikhs revere about Guru Nanak, tell me who has proved to be idiot? They or you? Answer of this should run a sad feeling through inflated egoist.
We are aware of those well known who are accepted and worshiped even after their well known lustrous behavior ( some peoples call them Gods or what ever); we just respect them as per their wish unlike you to stoop low and question them, Sikhs are taught to respect others by the same one you are questioning. Guru Nanak was/ is highly revered by not only Sikhs but Muslims as well as per historical facts. So don’t display idiotic display of your small mind. One needs to grow up to deal with other religions with due respect today ( a time which is desperately in need of world harmony) . And, Guru Nanak is very much right in saying to all including you too.
ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੋਨੀ ਥਾਕੇ ਭੇਖੀ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਪਾਈ ॥
parr parr panddith monee thhaakae bhaekhee mukath n paaee ||
Reading and studying continually, the Pandits
the religious scholars, and the silent sages have grown weary; wearing religious robes, liberation is not obtained( Foot note: .Because they practiced and preached hypocrisy)
ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਗਤੀ ਜਗੁ ਬਉਰਾਨਾ ਸਚੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਿਲਾਈ ॥੩॥
naanak bin bhagathee jag bouraanaa sachai sabadh milaaee ||3||
O Nanak, without devotional worship, the world has gone insane; through the True Word of the Shabad, one meets the Lord. ||3||440( Footnote: It is not matter of Schools but the true longing for HIM infused by Guru otherwise lost souls keep doing what ever they like, hence Guru Nanak’s ideology is not an arena of academic Pundits but spiritual experience of Almighty to which a few will attain that special ability to rise to that level of experiencing HIM; and, there fore gentleman/madam, Caravan goes on and dogs keep barking.)
