Moving To Quebec, Canada. Advice Reqested!

[bani1313]

veerji
sat sri akal
this is inderjeet singh from amritsar,get ur email id searching
net,sorry for taking your precious time , veerji i have little bit
confusion regarding quebec,actually i with my family are interested to
take the pr for canada but someone has advise us that revising the
catagory and new change in immigration to canada law has effected and
make the process complicated the best way to move is first you should
apply for quebec pr move there and after working there for ometime then
apply to canada this is the simplest way,please suggest me that if we
plan to move to montreal thus we feel homelike means can there enough
sikh community so that we should not feel alone because we dont have
any relatives or friends we will start our new life with our
children,kindly give your valuable advise thanks for giving time
ok veerji sat sri akal and WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

inderjeet singh
amritsar

 

[Bmandur]

re: Veerji, I need your valuable advice!

Gurfateh Inderjeet Singh jeo
Are you coming to Canada with Point base or just as sponsorship Immigration
No matter where you move Ontario. Quebec or BC.<?"urn:<img src=" />
You will find Sikh communities everywhere depends on you who you wants to be interact with others Gurudwara’s you will find every where infect so many you will find .
Main thing you have to see is Crime ratio where is less.
I would say come down to Ontario and see how you will like it than decide where you want to move

 

[Archived_Member16]

re: Veerji, I need your valuable advice!

For your information, please check the following link for Montreal, P.Q., Canada:

http://www.canadavisa.com/about-quebec.html

Montreal Sikh Gurdwara



The Sikhs in Montreal had built a much bigger Sikh Temple in La Salle, Quebec.

Other Gurdwaras in & around Montreal - ( You may write / phone directly to them for more information ):



Sikh Temple Association,
1091 St. Joseph Blvd.,
Lachine, Quebec H8N 2G1
Tel: (514) 634 3301

Gurdwara Brahm Bunga Sahib

5635 Boulevard Grande-Allee,
Brossard,
QC
J4Z 3G3

(514) 445 4335
View Map

Gurdwara Sahib Quebec

2183 Rue Wellington,
Montreal,
QC
H3K 1X1

(514) 634-1259
(514) 934-9330
View Map

Le Centre Communautaire Sikh de Montreal
13088 Gouin Boulevard,
P.O. Box 104
Pierrefonds, Quebec H9H 4K8
Tel: (514) 624 5969

Gurdwara Nanak Darbar Community Center

430 Rue Saint-Roch,
Montreal,
QC
H3N 1K3

(514) 270-6660
View Map

gurbani Sagar

8205 Rue Durocher,
Montreal,
QC
H3N 2A8

(514) 276-2515
View Map

Gurdwara Guru Nanak Darbar

7801 Rue Cordner,
Lasalle,
QC
H8N 2X2

(514) 595-1881
View Map

Gurdwara Sahib Greater Montreal

1155 Rue Hyman,
Dollard-Des Ormeaux,
QC
H9B 1M7

(514) 683-6100
(514) 745-5553
View Map

 

[Bmandur]

re: Veerji, I need your valuable advice!

For your information, please check the following link for Montreal, P.Q., Canada:

http://www.canadavisa.com/about-quebec.html

Montreal Sikh Gurdwara



The Sikhs in Montreal had built a much bigger Sikh Temple in La Salle, Quebec.

Other Gurdwaras in & around Montreal - ( You may write / phone directly to them for more information ):



Sikh Temple Association,
1091 St. Joseph Blvd.,
Lachine, Quebec H8N 2G1
Tel: (514) 634 3301

Gurdwara Brahm Bunga Sahib

5635 Boulevard Grande-Allee,
Brossard,
QC
J4Z 3G3

(514) 445 4335
View Map

Gurdwara Sahib Quebec

2183 Rue Wellington,
Montreal,
QC
H3K 1X1

(514) 634-1259
(514) 934-9330
View Map

Le Centre Communautaire Sikh de Montreal
13088 Gouin Boulevard,
P.O. Box 104
Pierrefonds, Quebec H9H 4K8
Tel: (514) 624 5969

Gurdwara Nanak Darbar Community Center

430 Rue Saint-Roch,
Montreal,
QC
H3N 1K3

(514) 270-6660
View Map

gurbani Sagar

8205 Rue Durocher,
Montreal,
QC
H3N 2A8

(514) 276-2515
View Map

Gurdwara Guru Nanak Darbar

7801 Rue Cordner,
Lasalle,
QC
H8N 2X2

(514) 595-1881
View Map

Gurdwara Sahib Greater Montreal

1155 Rue Hyman,
Dollard-Des Ormeaux,
QC
H9B 1M7

(514) 683-6100
(514) 745-5553
View Map

I might call them myself for our Next Gurmat Crash Course by Guru Gobind Singh Study Circle. Thanks for the Info

 

[bani1313]

re: Veerji, I need your valuable advice!

VEERJI
WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA
WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH.......................
bhai saa'b ji this is inderjeet singh from amritsar and first of all i thanx you for giving reply to my post actually veerji my wife is the main applicant applying for pr particularly for canada we are not qualifying as per points,moreover i have no trust in punjab's agents ,by some sources we meant one person in karol bagh new delhi who suggest us quebe'c is the other option you should try to enter this is safe and after working for sometime there you should apply for canada ,veerji our main aim is to work hard and like every normal human being trying our luck for betterment in future but also remaining our soul with GURSIKHI so that we not easily fall prey with western world,veerji i am unknown and unfamiliar with this new world we need your moral support we dont need any financial assistance we need your cooperation,sanu apna sanhyog devo ji
thanx and GURFATEH JI

 

[polpol]

re: Veerji, I need your valuable advice!

Bani1313ji,
I live in Quebec, Canada and I think you must think hard about immigrating. If you have children it is better not to come to Quebec because here people speak French and your children will have to go to French school. If you don't speak French it would be hard for you to help your children with school. In Montreal people speak English but your children still will have to go to French school and maybe you and your wife will have to take French courses and that would be a waste of time and energy if you think of moving somewhere else in Canada which is English. It is better I think you go to an English province since you already know some English. I advice you chose a small town. Check the Maritime provinces. They are poorer than the rest of Canada but they are having an economic boom and people are nice and peaceful. Also, it is possible for you to seek a job in Canada while you are in India. That way immigration is simpler. With Internet, this is possible. Good luck. :happykaur:

 

[bani1313]

respected polpol ji

veerji
waheguru ji ka khalsa
waheguru ji ki fateh.......................
thanks for giving reply actually veerji my wife is apearing for french certificate course and the main problem is we have file the case for quebec and we have no other option left except quebec otherwise we will miss for this chance also,and if we hav decided and make up our mind that we will struggle together for the betterment of our children and we are leaving all far behind from our hometown thanony GURU SAHB and pyare GURSIKHS are if with us we dont have any tension ,tusi vade jo saade naal ho at present for getting setled kindly cooperate of what my be possible from ur side
changa veerji
GURFATEH JI

 

[polpol]

Re: respected polpol ji

Bani1313ji,
I see. Well if you ever make it to Quebec let me know. I live in Quebec city, there are not many Sikhs here, I saw about lalf dozen names in the telephone book but it's a nice place for family life, more peaceful but not many opportunities. Do you have any skills and-or education? Most immigrants go to Montreal for better opportunities but things are tougher there like in all big cities. There are more Sikhs though. Immigration is a big adventure and every story is different. Good luck again blessings to you and your loved ones. As for getting settled once here, it is not a problem. Government helps a lot with housing and all. They can even find you a family who will help your integration, socially. It's the psychological part that may be hard but you can make it. I would be happy to help with the language and paper stuff but only once you get here, otherwise it is too hypothetical, you understand. Warm regards welcomekaur

 

[bani1313]

Re: respected polpol ji

respected veerji,
WJK KHALSA.........
WJK FATEH...........................
thanks for giving ur moral support,this is more than sufficient for me that someone is there ,as you say about my work ability,i am only 12th pass but my wife is bcom graduate,can we both do the store jobs there just to start our livelihood and what about our kids are there govt aided schools where our kids can study with nominal charges and if i get driving training ,is taxi driving another option i can opt for these are some of my confusions i kindly request you to please suggest me for the same,we are just gambling with our life and frankly saying is there anypossibility that after holding pr for quebec working there for sometime we can move to ontario or toronto easily,tusi veerjio khota hagan wa bacheyan naal aan wich thoda nervous ho gaya haan pls chanan pao ji,thanks for giving ur precious time.
GURFATEH JI

 

[polpol]

Re: respected polpol ji

banni1313ji,
There is no such thing as pr for Quebec. Quebec is only a province but for political reasons Quebec has some power on the choice of immigrants. Nationalism is very strong and Quebec acts as if it was a nation, for example we have a "national museum" and consulates in other countries and that is confusing for strangers. If you get pr, it will be for all of Canada. Once you are here you can go wherever you want in Canada. I still think it's not a good idea to come to Quebec because of language barrier. Your children will go to a French school but if you move to another province, they will have to switch to English and that will be hard for them to start all over learning another language. I see you are confusing Ontario and Toronto. Toronto is a city inside the province of Ontario. About education, it's free from elementary to college. We pay only for university. So not only your children but you and your wife could get education (evening classes) if you want. Day care for the very young is not free but relatively cheap.
I's ok if you don't have much education. It's harder for professional immigrants to get a job for political reasons too long to explain. Taxi driving seems to be a solution for many immigrants but there is lots of competition. There is also opportunities in hotels. Here we rely a lot on tourism. They hire overseas. Try to contact a big hotel like Hilton. We had a Maori artist friend who did that from New Zealand and he got hired as a cook and made a good living and moved on working as an artist. Perhaps you would be better off in a place where there is a Sikh community. You have the list, so you should get some information from them. If I may say so, you should not think of your situation as gambling, you must be more positive. Most important is to know what you and your wife really want, as I said, you must think hard about your decision and if you decide you want to immigrate, then you must become like warriors who remain focused on their goals no matter the sacrifice and be sure the sacrifice is enormous. It may be good for the future of your children but there is no guarantee they will ever thank you for that. I don't want to discourage you but I don't want to encourage you neither. The decision is yours.

 

[polpol]

Re: respected polpol ji

I wish to add more information to help you make a decision. About Quebec, it is considered to be the most liberal of all provinces. Ontario is much more conservative and it is a well known fact that Ontarians come to Quebec when they want to have fun... Sex before marriage is the norm and there are more couples that choose to live together without getting married than in the rest of Canada. So you will probably see your children come home from school with all sorts of moral and social values that may be shocking to you. This said, people here are genuinely good, simple, peaceful and generous and many immigrants are very happy to live here even if they come from cultures that have stricter ethics.
This may be a bigger problem than the material aspect. Materially speaking there is no risk you will end up starving in the streets, that's for sure. Even if you get pr but have no job, you will first be on welfare ie. you will have a place to stay and enough money for food and clothing and even dental care. Medical care is free for everyone but those who work must buy their medecine according to their revenues. While on welfare, you can chose to learn a trade. You will get a kind of salary while you are being trained. There are also programs to help you find a job. For example you can find an employer who is willing to hire you and the government will pay a third of your salary to the employer who will accept to hire you permanently when the program ends. Statistics show that compared to locals (who may stay on welfare all their lives), immigrants don't stay on welfare too long, they manage to make a decent living, for the obvious reason that they are more motivated (those that are not don't even think of immigrating) and also because they appreciate the opportunities offered. So that's encouraging for you. As I said already it's the psychological side that is most difficult...for example, even if you eat the same food as in India, it will not taste the same and that's just a small example. Now there is nothing more I can say except good luck! :carefreekaur:

 

[Manjinder33]

veerji
sat sri akal
this is inderjeet singh from amritsar,get ur email id searching
net,sorry for taking your precious time , veerji i have little bit
confusion regarding quebec,actually i with my family are interested to
take the pr for canada but someone has advise us that revising the
catagory and new change in immigration to canada law has effected and
make the process complicated the best way to move is first you should
apply for quebec pr move there and after working there for ometime then
apply to canada this is the simplest way,please suggest me that if we
plan to move to montreal thus we feel homelike means can there enough
sikh community so that we should not feel alone because we dont have
any relatives or friends we will start our new life with our
children,kindly give your valuable advise thanks for giving time
ok veerji sat sri akal and WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

inderjeet singh
amritsar

Waheguru ji Ka Khalsa
WAheguru ji ki Fateh

Myself Manjinder Singh from Amritsar. Veer ji I would like to meet you if you are in Amritsar now.

Wjkk
wjkf
Manjinder Singh
Amritsar.