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Opinion Monty Panesar Finds Unexpected Response To Bouncers In New Escapade

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Monty Panesar finds unexpected response to bouncers in new escapade

IF England did not possess in Graeme Swann its best spin bowler for at least 30 years, Monty Panesar would be at Durham this morning with roughly 300 Test wickets to his credit as a key member of the team preparing to convert Ashes retention into a series victory.

Instead, he will be sweating over his immediate future with both Sussex and England after the sad, seedy revelation that he was fined by police in the early hours of Monday morning for being drunk and disorderly when he urinated over bouncers at a nightclub in Brighton.

The Professional Cricketers' Association (PCA) has offered to help Panesar while Sussex continue the investigation they began on Monday. The player himself, through a spokesman, has apologised "unreservedly for any offence caused". England are leaving the matter to Sussex, although he is on an incremental contract and was with the squad only last week for the third Test at Old Trafford.

They will not pick him if and while he is suspended by the county.

Reports time the incident at about 3.30am. Panesar had allegedly been told to leave the club for annoying a group of girls. He then went to the promenade above and relieved himself on to startled door staff beneath.
Two of the bouncers chased him into a pizza parlour where they put him in an armlock as Panesar shouted for help. They escorted him back to the club where he was given a fixed penalty notice by police.


Full story here http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/the-times-sport/monty-panesar-finds-unexpected-response-to-bouncers-in-new-escapade/story-fniiw3ie-1226693454151
 

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Don't they take responsibility for it the moment they put on that uniform? Or is that just being overly idealistic? It's tricky with such a visible 'religion' as Sikhi.
 
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I agree the ideal was to understand the uniform, to appreciate the code of conduct, the traits that are needed to wear the uniform, but unfortunately we have made the admission too open and blaze.

The loss in training, testing, advancement, refinement, a similar structure to what is needed in the army, police, professionals etc has been lost sometime ago so now we are left with a large number of uniformed officers without qualifications representing Sikhs.

Also, in times when the Sikh appearance is declining you find people are more than over joyed with the fact that someone wants to wear the appearance and automatically give a cry of "shabaaash" regardless if they portray the credible character needed for the uniform.
 

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Don't they take responsibility for it the moment they put on that uniform? Or is that just being overly idealistic? It's tricky with such a visible 'religion' as Sikhi.
Cricket itself is bad boys club.Most of cricketers are known for partying, drunken brawls and even few are in crimes.May be when Monty started his career he could be simple guy but No longer he is a simple .I think last time his beard was even shortened , so may be he is not much into religion anymore
 
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Cricket itself is bad boys club.Most of cricketers are known for partying, drunken brawls and even few are in crimes.May be when Monty started his career he could be simple guy but No longer he is a simple .I think last time his beard was even shortened , so may be he is not much into religion anymore
2 points, in England cricket is considered the civilised, gentlemen's sport and football is probably the sport usually associated with 'bad boys' i.e. racists, roasters, womenisers etc.


As for Monty representing Sikhs. When will some us face up to the truth that for some people (not all) of Panjabi descent the roop appears to be more akin to a marker of regional identity than a marker of explicit religious convictions.
 

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2 points, in England cricket is considered the civilised, gentlemen's sport and football is probably the sport usually associated with 'bad boys' i.e. racists, roasters, womenisers etc.
Cricket is gentlemen's game is in theory.From 1930s onward cricket has gone from several changes. When Douglas Jardine english captain introduced bodyline bowling which was so dangerous that it could had killed or severly injure the batsman. It was within rules but earlier no team use that type of tactics.Recently there is news that both Aussie and English players are using silicon tapes to bypass hotspot technology.Severe abusing , drunken brawls are now very common for cricketers all over the world


As for Monty representing Sikhs. When will some us face up to the truth that for some people (not all) of Panjabi descent the roop appears to be more akin to a marker of regional identity than a marker of explicit religious convictions.
When Monty came in cricket he himself said he was a religious guy.He was even vegetarian and non drinker. It is a fact that this guy has changed. May be because of his personl life or because of his career frustration
 

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SGPC's sports icon Monty Panesar turns apostate

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http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-08-10/top-stories/41266086_1_sikh-gurus-avtar-singh-makkar-sgpc-president

AMRITSAR: Once a poster boy of the Shirmoni Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) for his true appearance, England left-arm spinner Mudhsudan Singh alias Monty Panesar has fallen from grace in the eyes of the religious body's chief Avtar Singh Makkar.

The SGPC president, who had dubbed Monty as 'true Sikh sports icon' in 2006, has said the cricketer has deviated from the path of Sikh gurus, following his indecent act of urinating on bouncers of a club at Brighton in England. Panesar was fined 153 pounds for his indecent behaviour after being thrown out of the club for misbehaving with women in a drunken state.

In October 2006, Makkar had described Panesar as a true Sikh and had even announced to honour for sporting an untrimmed beard and a turban, while admonishing Indian off-spinner Harbhajan Singh, who had featured in a liquor brand's advertisement with his hair open. "His family in Ludhiana is baptized and I had honoured them. I had also announced to honour Monty," Makkar told TOI on Thursday.

Speaking of Monty's misdemeanour in public after getting drunk, the SGPC head stated the cricketer is caught in dazzle of materialistic world and has deviated from the path shown by Sikh gurus.

Makkar said it was unfortunate to hear that Panesar could drink and behave like that. "I don't know what has gone wrong with Monty, who had once upheld the Sikh tenets and values even living in the western world," said he.

He said he could only pray Monty before the Almighty to give him good senses so he could once again follow the Sikh maryada (code of conduct).
 

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"...who had once upheld the Sikh tenets and values even living in the western world..."

*sigh* Like living in India would have saved him? Pfft.
 

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Wonder why Monty is getting so much heat from the critics. I mean, this is not the first such incident involving an international cricketer. Two months back Australian cricketer David Warner 'slapped' Englishman Joe Root in a fit of drunkenness (Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/david-warner-suspended-until-first-1949965) for which he was suspended and fined. No one questioned Warner as a Christian, but multitudes are after Monty as a Sikh and an Indian-origin player.
Yeah he made a mistake and he has to pay for it, but who knows, our criticism of his Sikhi could affect his natural game (as a cricket fanatic I would be the last person to want that). Lets give him a break and pray that he performs even better (better then Graeme Swann to cement his place in the International side, yeah! I'm biased on that count).
 

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Wonder why Monty is getting so much heat from the critics
because the world delights in showing up hypocrisy, no one cares about him or his lifestyle per se, its when you present yourself in public as the tenth master decreed, and fail to do honour to that look.

When you are a role model to young Sikhs everywhere, you have to be a bit careful about behaving drunkenly, chasing women and peeing on bouncers.

I did not know Warner was a Christian, everyone knows Monty is a Sikh....
 

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Wonder why Monty is getting so much heat from the critics. I mean, this is not the first such incident involving an international cricketer. Two months back Australian cricketer David Warner 'slapped' Englishman Joe Root in a fit of drunkenness (Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/david-warner-suspended-until-first-1949965) for which he was suspended and fined. No one questioned Warner as a Christian, but multitudes are after Monty as a Sikh and an Indian-origin player.
Yeah he made a mistake and he has to pay for it, but who knows, our criticism of his Sikhi could affect his natural game (as a cricket fanatic I would be the last person to want that). Lets give him a break and pray that he performs even better (better then Graeme Swann to cement his place in the International side, yeah! I'm biased on that count).
If tomorrow Hashim Amla got involved in drunken brawl , dont you think muslim world will get surprised.The famous people who keep religious symbols and declare themselves religious have much more responsibility how to behave in public
 

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Is he a Christian? I can't find anything online about his religious views but I'm not into cricket so maybe I don't know where to look. Aristotle ji...?
A pre-match show once showed him attending a parish church, so he is a Christian most probably (Don't want to stereotype anyways).
I intended to use the example as a generalised argument, not as a comparison.
 

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