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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Harkiran Kaur" data-source="post: 209462" data-attributes="member: 18224"><p>But... how do you reconcile that with the OPs actual experiences of doing those things? This member is not 'waiting' for a miracle, rather these things have manifested in their life without them actively doing anything to bring them on.</p><p></p><p>And... could there be a difference between encouraging us not to pursue those things, and those who have been given the gift to do them? Could Gurbani simply be telling us that striving to do these things just won't bring us to Waheguru quicker, but that doesn't mean these things don't happen in nature. To me, saying Sikhi 'doesn't believe in' these things, is the same as saying Sikhi doesn't believe in the sky being blue... even though you can you look out your window and see, it's obviously blue! Or is it a shade of indigo? LOL </p><p></p><p>This has come up before on here, regarding things like out of body experiences. Now, are OBEs against Sikhi? Are OBEs considered to be 'psychic' or 'supernatural' or..... could these things just be actual natural abilities, part of nature, and a normal thing in the Universe.... when we look at the fact that everything is actually connected? That means there is no 'magic' or 'supernatural' about it! </p><p></p><p>As far as ghosts, spirits etc. Since our existence is on multiple levels, I truly believe that some part of us (as the individual) exists after death for awhile (etheric). Gurbani even speaks about the silver cord at some point that so many have mentioned in near death experiences. And I can play for you a recording from an answering machine, a message left by someone 2 days AFTER they died! I still have the recording. It was proven as much as possible to not be a hoax. It happened in my own family, the phone company confirmed no actual call was made to the home at the time of the message, meaning someone at the house had to have used the memo function. But... nobody was home, and it was his voice. </p><p></p><p>Just because we can't explain something, doesn't mean it's magick. It just means we have not yet understood the science behind it. Doesn't mean it's not real. I think Gurbani is more saying we don't NEED to do these things to progress spiritually. But it's not that same as saying they don't exist, which I think is damaging. Can you imagine if Gurbani said that Gravity was not real? So maybe in another 50-100 years we will prove that ghosts are just what's left over of the consciousness after leaving the body? (quantum physics is already stating that our consciousness exists in a quantum state... that is OUTSIDE our body and can be transferred to somewhere other than our body).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harkiran Kaur, post: 209462, member: 18224"] But... how do you reconcile that with the OPs actual experiences of doing those things? This member is not 'waiting' for a miracle, rather these things have manifested in their life without them actively doing anything to bring them on. And... could there be a difference between encouraging us not to pursue those things, and those who have been given the gift to do them? Could Gurbani simply be telling us that striving to do these things just won't bring us to Waheguru quicker, but that doesn't mean these things don't happen in nature. To me, saying Sikhi 'doesn't believe in' these things, is the same as saying Sikhi doesn't believe in the sky being blue... even though you can you look out your window and see, it's obviously blue! Or is it a shade of indigo? LOL This has come up before on here, regarding things like out of body experiences. Now, are OBEs against Sikhi? Are OBEs considered to be 'psychic' or 'supernatural' or..... could these things just be actual natural abilities, part of nature, and a normal thing in the Universe.... when we look at the fact that everything is actually connected? That means there is no 'magic' or 'supernatural' about it! As far as ghosts, spirits etc. Since our existence is on multiple levels, I truly believe that some part of us (as the individual) exists after death for awhile (etheric). Gurbani even speaks about the silver cord at some point that so many have mentioned in near death experiences. And I can play for you a recording from an answering machine, a message left by someone 2 days AFTER they died! I still have the recording. It was proven as much as possible to not be a hoax. It happened in my own family, the phone company confirmed no actual call was made to the home at the time of the message, meaning someone at the house had to have used the memo function. But... nobody was home, and it was his voice. Just because we can't explain something, doesn't mean it's magick. It just means we have not yet understood the science behind it. Doesn't mean it's not real. I think Gurbani is more saying we don't NEED to do these things to progress spiritually. But it's not that same as saying they don't exist, which I think is damaging. Can you imagine if Gurbani said that Gravity was not real? So maybe in another 50-100 years we will prove that ghosts are just what's left over of the consciousness after leaving the body? (quantum physics is already stating that our consciousness exists in a quantum state... that is OUTSIDE our body and can be transferred to somewhere other than our body). [/QUOTE]
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