Bhagats Kabir

CaramelChocolate · Dec 5, 2004

Waheguruji ka khalsa Waheguruji ki fateh.

I am looking for information on Kabir. Yesterday I was told of an event by a Sadhu where Kabir was praising Bhagwan Swaminarayan as SADGURU and singing to him. I am wondering if this is the same Kabir as in Sikhism, I mentioned of Kabir writing in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and he said he this it is ths same Kabir.

~CaramelChocolate~

CaramelChocolate · Dec 8, 2004

......Still waiting for reply! This is important!

etinder · Dec 8, 2004

can u describe the event in detail?

but yeah the bani of kabirji is in Sri guru granth sahib ji,but in SGGS whole compilation of Sant kabir is not there..and his poems are recited in hindu temples too.

CaramelChocolate · Dec 9, 2004

Which details would you like to know...??

etinder · Dec 9, 2004

abt the katha that sadhu told u abt?

CaramelChocolate · Dec 10, 2004

Heres the story:

c. In Sarangpur during the year 1809, at Rathod Dhadhal's home, Lord Swaminarayan had sung a poem by Kabir describing the ultimate glory of God's Saint. After this, He said, "Such a Saint is Gunatitanand Swami, and I am incarnate Purushottam."

drkhalsa · Dec 10, 2004

Dear Caramel

As far as I know There is only One kabir who is assosiated with indian history and the bani of same kabir is in Guru Granth Sahib

CaramelChocolate · Dec 10, 2004

drkhalsa said:
Dear Caramel

As far as I know There is only One kabir who is assosiated with indian history and the bani of same kabir is in Guru Granth Sahib

Ok so why would the same Kabir praise Swaminarayan as Sadguru then regard him as God when he declared he was God when this would be in conflict with the teahcings of Sikhism?

~CaramelChocolate~

etinder · Dec 10, 2004

as per ur earlier post

u said otherway around tht swaminarayan sung hymns of kabir

CaramelChocolate · Dec 11, 2004

etinder said:
as per ur earlier post

u said otherway around tht swaminarayan sung hymns of kabir

OK don't worry I think I got it mixed up.

anders · Dec 11, 2004

Kabir can't unequivocally be assigned to any religion but his own views. One example is that he very often uses the name Ram when referring to his God, but he does not mean the Hindu God Rama, but uses the name as a generic name for God. A fairly good overview of similar problems is The Sants. Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India, eds. Karine Schomer and W.H. McLeod.

Singhstah · Dec 11, 2004

kabir ji may not have been enlightened wen he sang that.