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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 215654" data-attributes="member: 138"><p>I call it Lifestyle but it is definitely not a religion as religion is defined and also as compared to other religions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, not really. I personally find it uncomfortable when non-Sikhs are told to keep hair and take khandei de pahul in order to embrace Sikhi. This is not the message of the SGGS, our only Guru, but the total ignorance laced with imposition by the honchos of Sikhi. This is sheer segregation in my view.</p><p></p><p>In my personal opinion, keeping kesh was a defiance as was wearing turbans or riding horses, because the latter two were forbidden for the commoner by the Hindu upper class and also by the Mughal emperors.</p><p></p><p>As far as keeping unshorn hair is concerned, Hindus used to shave heads of their children of both sexes at a very young age as a ritual called mundan which our Gurus may have thought to be futile, hence keeping one's kesh became the defiance to the ritual. However, there are many Sikhs who do not keep unshorn hair and are called sehajdhari Sikhs, sehaj meaning slow paced in this sense. Not all who considered themselves Sikhs during the day of Vaisakhi in 1699 took khandei de pahul either and many had unshorn hair then. The majority still do not take khandei de pahul but they call themselves Sikhs either with kesh and turban or without.</p><p></p><p>There are many sehajdhari Sikhs in Sikhi. One of the well-known ones is a Sikh scholar, Dr Harbans Lal who was the first sehajdhari Sikh to become the head of a Sikh Association of some sort. You can google him if you wish to and he is also on FB. He is married to a German and lives in Texas and a well known Sikh scholar.</p><p></p><p>In the past, most of the Hindu Punjabi families had their first child, sadly a boy, to be a Sikh with kesh etc. etc. Hence one will find many Hindu families having Sikhs in their families because of this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that is a moral code that the societies want to abide by to have a long married life together.</p><p>Would you let yourself or your spouse have sex outside your marriage provided that was your case?</p><p>If you meant sex before marriage, in other words, remain a virgin, then it is a different thing and is sadly favourable to the male gender than to the female one which is unfair.</p><p>This is worth mentioning again as it was said before in another thread that virginity lies between one's two ears, not between one's two legs. Masturbation and wet dreams in both sexes prove that whether one is a virgin or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you understand by 'bow down before ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ'?</p><p>Once you expand on what you mean by the above, then only I will be able to respond.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose you mean drinking alcohol if I am not mistaken. We all know its mals. We see AA all around the world. DUI is a crime. Many kill and get killed while driving drunk daily. So, I have no idea what you are trying to convey. Would you please expand on it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would you be kind enough to expand on the above as well, please? Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 215654, member: 138"] I call it Lifestyle but it is definitely not a religion as religion is defined and also as compared to other religions. Well, not really. I personally find it uncomfortable when non-Sikhs are told to keep hair and take khandei de pahul in order to embrace Sikhi. This is not the message of the SGGS, our only Guru, but the total ignorance laced with imposition by the honchos of Sikhi. This is sheer segregation in my view. In my personal opinion, keeping kesh was a defiance as was wearing turbans or riding horses, because the latter two were forbidden for the commoner by the Hindu upper class and also by the Mughal emperors. As far as keeping unshorn hair is concerned, Hindus used to shave heads of their children of both sexes at a very young age as a ritual called mundan which our Gurus may have thought to be futile, hence keeping one's kesh became the defiance to the ritual. However, there are many Sikhs who do not keep unshorn hair and are called sehajdhari Sikhs, sehaj meaning slow paced in this sense. Not all who considered themselves Sikhs during the day of Vaisakhi in 1699 took khandei de pahul either and many had unshorn hair then. The majority still do not take khandei de pahul but they call themselves Sikhs either with kesh and turban or without. There are many sehajdhari Sikhs in Sikhi. One of the well-known ones is a Sikh scholar, Dr Harbans Lal who was the first sehajdhari Sikh to become the head of a Sikh Association of some sort. You can google him if you wish to and he is also on FB. He is married to a German and lives in Texas and a well known Sikh scholar. In the past, most of the Hindu Punjabi families had their first child, sadly a boy, to be a Sikh with kesh etc. etc. Hence one will find many Hindu families having Sikhs in their families because of this. Well, that is a moral code that the societies want to abide by to have a long married life together. Would you let yourself or your spouse have sex outside your marriage provided that was your case? If you meant sex before marriage, in other words, remain a virgin, then it is a different thing and is sadly favourable to the male gender than to the female one which is unfair. This is worth mentioning again as it was said before in another thread that virginity lies between one's two ears, not between one's two legs. Masturbation and wet dreams in both sexes prove that whether one is a virgin or not. What do you understand by 'bow down before ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ'? Once you expand on what you mean by the above, then only I will be able to respond. I suppose you mean drinking alcohol if I am not mistaken. We all know its mals. We see AA all around the world. DUI is a crime. Many kill and get killed while driving drunk daily. So, I have no idea what you are trying to convey. Would you please expand on it? Would you be kind enough to expand on the above as well, please? Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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