Leisure How Do You Define Masculine/feminine Energy?

Astroboy

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We talk of yin/yang the masculine and feminine, we basically all understand what that means in the physical manifestation of it.

What does it mean energetically though? I've met women with very masculine energy yet very much a woman in the physical aspect, and men with feminine energy yet very much a man.

Is then yin/yang and balance an outdated perception? That there really is no division?
 

Ishna

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I think by applying the terms "masculine" and "feminine" we are using our limited human perception of the universe... would you really say light is "masculine" and darkness is "feminine"? I get the idea it's trying to convey, but I'm not sure it's a literal one.

I have my beef with this masc/fem ideology because it usually goes something like this:

Masculine/light/active/good
Feminine/dark/passive/evil

And I say pfft to that. When applied to the universe I think it is a clumsy and primitive disection.

Humans have such tiny minds in relation to the universe, how can we even imagine to understand?

With regards to masculinity and femininity in humans, you might like to research the idea of Anima and Aminus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_and_animus

The human matrix is basically the same, we contain male and female qualities within us, and usually our birth gender makes one quality dominant over the other, but not always.

As an interesting side note, in traditional Wiccan rituals, there is a part where the cup and the knife are brought together in blessing the wine. The woman holds the knife (phallus) while the man kneels and holds up the cup (womb). This is supposed to be because ritually the woman has masculine energy and the man feminine energy. Thank Guruji for the simplicity of Sikhi!

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An aspect to this discussion might be the soul bride / husband Lord imagery used in Gurbani. We don't really believe our souls are feminine and the Creative Force is the only masculine element in the universe, do we? It is a metaphor, not a literal truth.

Ishna
 

Astroboy

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Ishna,
That was felt as coming from your heart.

Ambarsaria,
I enjoy some humor at times. Keeps our spirits high.
 

Astroboy

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To me its all energy the only female and male is in the body we be given at the time we come in for the purpose of being HUMAN. To have those experiences that the physical body gives us.

Being more femanie or masculine at times comes from the make up of our parents....as we are a part of their DNA. Our ubringing too can bring out that in our personalities. We so fear being "judged" as one or the other too much. For men if they let out that caring and compassionate side of them too much they are viewed "Girly" same with a woman that has the masculine side showing "tomboy".

There is nothing wrong in being whom one truly is and embracing that person fully, not so on the worry of what others think of us as we are the one's that have to embrace being whom we are the most.

I have a name that is at times used for men and at times I have been thought on as a man....so be it...I can put on the "Pants" in the family if that role is needed or the long flowing evening gown and jewels if that be needed. Neither is truly me....but if the ROLE is needed I can play it.

Keep tuned in, Ishna.
There's more to come.
 

Astroboy

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Astroy boy ji

Please first describe what do you mean by energy here? Do you mean behaviour ?

Heart vs intellect

Cup vs spear

Lead vs leader

Dependent vs independent

Pursued vs pursuer

Protected vs protector

Weak vs strong

Soft vs hard

Water vs fire

Earth vs heavens

Mushy inside vs crunchy outside

Traditional female aspects listed on the left; masculine on the right. Balance looks like this:

Heart vs intellect = Wisdom

Cup vs spear = Creation of third

Lead vs leader = Dance (Fred & Ginger: Too Hot to Handle - YouTube)

Dependent vs independent = interdependent

Pursued vs pursuer = See Dance; captured, but not trapped.

Soft vs hard = just right

Water vs fire = solid gold

Earth vs heavens = heaven on earth

Mushy inside vs crunchy outside = perfect candy bar

etc...
 

kds1980

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Traditional female aspects listed on the left; masculine on the right. Balance looks like this:

Though these were traditional male female aspects created by some intellectuals but they in reality they were never true.The words like joru kaa ghulam (slave of wife) were invented quite back because society itself has seen that many men were controlled by their wives.So men who behave strong outside used to be weak at home .
 

Astroboy

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Ya, I remember this thread pretty well. It was adventure all the way. I believe Narayanjyot's #13 post is unique, and the passage from it that catches my attention is
Soft and hard, teeth and tongue, many and one, are and is not, died and lives are all part of this Confucian story of Lao Tzu the "founder" of Tao. As opposing concepts these complement one another and create totality, but the totality created is a union of opposites.http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/107990-post13.html

Thank you, Ishna Ji for bringing this up. Btw, where is Narayanjyot Kaur these days?
 
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