I don't want to do it because a religion requires it
I am going to ask some of those who are farther along on the path and actually spoke with Guru ji on his earthly stay. I wonder if it was only about modesty or if he taught anything about the crown chakra.
Good work Ishna Ji ....
I hope Harry Ji see this video as why i & many support covering head
I think it goes far beyond India actually. IE: Mother Mary pbuh is always seen with a "veil".The chunni/duppata has a long history in India. It's use in Sikhi is firmly rooted in this history and is all about modesty and respect for elders.
03.14 "Symbolyses humility, symbolises respect, symbolises femininity"
03.46 "It's part of my identity"
If women wish to cover their heads, not cover their heads, walk around half naked, walk around in a sleeping bag, its all the same to me.
I really could not care less, it has nothing whatsoever to do with me. If my own wife decided to wear a huge turban, thats fine too.
The only other comment I would make is that one women used the words symbol and symbolism several times, I do not believe in symbols, I believe in the real thing, for the record
So to cover your head symbolises respect, or, symbolises to another that wearer is respectful, respectful of what exactly?
.If I meet a stranger, I will always show respect if that stranger is worthy of it, this generic showing of respect to all and sundry, to me , seems mired in an age when women were chattels and were required to show respect to men, regardless of the man
If you are Khalsa, and wish to wear a turban as it is part of you, much kudos to you, if you are not, and you wish to cover your head for the purposes of symbolism, then what exactly are you hoping to achieve?
I guess I fall somewhere in the middle, but its interesting you feel that way since the 5Ks are symbols. I think these symbols help connect some Sikhs to the Divine Experience. Some find beauty and meaning in that symbolism. Without symbolism, we would have very little art to enjoy in the world. Some lives are enriched by symbolism; others aren't.
The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is filled with symbolism. It adds to it beauty, imho.
You may prefer a path without that kind of scenery, but some love to take in the scenery as part of their journey.
As an example, I have worn a Kara for years. I read in a book last week that it, in a sense, symbolizes being a soul bride the same way a wedding ring symbolizes marriage. I can't describe how that cut through so much maya for me when I contemplated on that
I think God often speaks to many souls through symbols. I am thinking of how Native Americans see signs when they have contact with a certain animal. It is full of symbolism as they reflect on what the animals qualities are teaching them. I recently had a hummingbird pause for 3 or 4 minutes right above me with one eye taking me in. It didn't take long to be warmed by the realization that the hummingbirds nourishment is nectar...amrit!
Words are symbols. Numbers are symbols. Bills and coins are symbols. Promises are symbols. You would not be able to communicate without symbols
Harry ji, remember you live in Great Britain in the 21st century. There are many countries which still view women as the inferior gender. The west has only progressed in this area in the last few decades. Not all parts of the world have achieved this yet.
Some men need a constant reminder that a woman is a woman not an object of lust. In that sense, modesty is a spiritual truth for people because lust interferes with union w/ the Divine. To dress provacatively means elevating the risk of succumbing to lust.
I believe you are saying two different things about respect. You say it should be a "generic" showing of respect yet you say only if a stranger is "worthy of it". How do you know when a stranger is "worthy of it"? Isn't all existence deserving of the same respect since the sacred exists within it all.
You are also attached to symbols. How do you make a purchase? With coins and paper that symbolize money. Money itself is a symbol. Is it meaningful to you?
And I think there should not need to be a debate over the value of 5K symbolism . They are full of meaning and I don't see how you can disrespect Sikhs who feel their faith deepens by those symbols.
E- For me, the kirpan is a potent symbol. I have PTSD. I am afraid of everything. I have had PTSD since my childhood. To respond with fear is automatic. I actually fear knives because they were one of the things that caused me to get PTSD. So the "symbol" of a knife has frightened me.
But...the beautiful part is that I had a realization that kirpan would help me remember God is my Sword...the One who keeps me away from my enemies. And it could help me have the courage to defend myself and others God asks me to defend or protect by reminding me my strength comes from the Beloved.
Symbolism can be beautiful. I am blessed to be amongst those in the gurdwara on Sundays via livestream. The gurdwara is filled with symbolism, but it also makes that energy of reverence for the Truth so beautiful.
An image of the guru might be symbolic for you, but for some it warms the heart to see an image of Guru Nanak or the other gurus.
Sufis say there are 3 sides to every argument. The opinion of the two people arguing and the Truth. The symbols mean quite a bit to some Sikhs and, for others, it doesn't. But to be part of a religion which is rich in symbolism, I hope you will honor those of us who are helped in our journeys by the richness of symbolism in religion.
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