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<blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 183804" data-attributes="member: 16886"><p>A nice post and I like the way you look at it.</p><p>I have just added a little here with a small cross ref from Bhai Gurdas Ji vaaran.</p><p>The more we delve into it sometimes, the deeper it keeps getting !</p><p>Although the overall essence I get is similar to your quote.</p><p></p><p>ਸੂਹੀ ਲਲਿਤ ॥</p><p>Sūhī laliṯ.</p><p>Soohee, Lalit:</p><p>ਬੇੜਾ ਬੰਧਿ ਨ ਸਕਿਓ ਬੰਧਨ ਕੀ ਵੇਲਾ ॥</p><p>Beṛā banḏẖ na saki▫o banḏẖan kī velā.</p><p>You were not able to make yourself a raft when you should have.</p><p></p><p>ਭਰਿ ਸਰਵਰੁ ਜਬ ਊਛਲੈ ਤਬ ਤਰਣੁ ਦੁਹੇਲਾ ॥੧॥</p><p>Bẖar sarvar jab ūcẖẖlai ṯab ṯaraṇ ḏuhelā. ||1||</p><p>When the ocean is churning and over-flowing, then it is very difficult to cross over it. ||1||</p><p></p><p><span style="color: purple">I think of the world ocean references as referred to the mind's mental ocean or ''mannsarover''- (mind sarover)</span></p><p><span style="color: #800080">Although, I have often associated it with the maya world ocean as well, many times.</span></p><p><span style="color: #800080">There is No raft or barge pole or any tool that can help us along. In this sense we have to create and make the mind's raft.</span></p><p><span style="color: purple">I think of the 'ego' water bubble that we build around us that gives us the false impression of floating above this ocean. Thus making the raft is only achieved if we step out of the false ego bubble.</span></p><p><span style="color: #800080">Only then can we get across without letting the bubble get churned and tossed with the waves.</span></p><p></p><p>ਹਥੁ ਨ ਲਾਇ ਕਸੁੰਭੜੈ ਜਲਿ ਜਾਸੀ ਢੋਲਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥</p><p>Hath na lā▫e kasumbẖ▫ṛai jal jāsī dẖolā. ||1|| rahā▫o.</p><p>Do not touch the safflower with your hands; its color will fade away, my dear. ||1||Pause||</p><p></p><p><span style="color: purple">The safflower I believe has deep beautiful colors as mentioned by findingmywayji.</span></p><p><span style="color: #800080">Bhai Gurdas ji's vaar(the key to unlock) 30 pauri6, explains this color of the manmukh quite well-</span></p><p></p><p><em>ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਚੁ ਸੁਰੰਗ ਹੈ ਮੂਲ ਮਜੀਠ ਨ ਟਲੈ ਟਲੰਦਾ।</em></p><p><em>Guramoukhi Sachu Surangu Hai Moolu Majeetd N Talai Taladaa.</em></p><p><em>Truth in the form of gurmukhs is such a beautiful madder colour which <strong>never</strong> fades.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>ਮਨਮੁਖ ਕੂੜੁ ਕੁਰੰਗ ਹੈ ਫੁਲ ਕੁਸੁੰਭੈ ਥਿਰ ਨ ਰਹੰਦਾ।</em></p><p><em>Manamoukhu Koorhu Kurang Hai Phul Kousounbhai Dir N Rahandaa.</em></p><p><em>The colour of mind oriented, manmukh, is like the colour of safflower which soon fades away.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: purple">Touching the safflower with our hands is like letting our Minds be touched by the maya illusion and ego. It is never permanent as compared to the Truth conquering minds of the gurmukhs.</span></p><p></p><p>ਇਕ ਆਪੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ਪਤਲੀ ਸਹ ਕੇਰੇ ਬੋਲਾ ॥</p><p>Ik āpīnĥai paṯlī sah kere bolā.</p><p>First, the bride herself is weak, and then, her Husband Lord's Order is hard to bear.</p><p></p><p>ਦੁਧਾ ਥਣੀ ਨ ਆਵਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਹੋਇ ਨ ਮੇਲਾ ॥੨॥</p><p>Ḏuḏẖā thaṇī na āvī fir ho▫e na melā. ||2||</p><p>Milk does not return to the breast; it will not be collected again. ||2||</p><p></p><p><span style="color: purple">We are talking about us as the soul bride of husband Lord here. The Milk is usually referred to as a purity, necessity or truth. Maybe this means that the truth, purity and goodness is not collected again. </span></p><p><span style="color: purple">Our good deeds don't make us a permanent good and truthful person, they have to be keep being produced. We have to keep up the maintenance of truthful good deeds.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #800080">Another way of looking at it ,is that the milk is needed to give to the child of the mother. In our soul bride case, the milk is the truth and gian for the mind.</span></p><p> <span style="color: #800080">Since this same mind has to have the raft to stay afloat. ie. we can't just drop the ego to get the raft and then that's it !!- we have to continuously keep building this raft.</span></p><p><span style="color: #800080">It doesn't just get produced the once to help us across our whole lifetime, we have to sustain it with continuous effort.</span></p><p></p><p>ਕਹੈ ਫਰੀਦੁ ਸਹੇਲੀਹੋ ਸਹੁ ਅਲਾਏਸੀ ॥</p><p>Kahai Farīḏ sahelīho saho alā▫esī.</p><p>Says Fareed, O my companions, when our Husband Lord calls,</p><p>ਹੰਸੁ ਚਲਸੀ ਡੁੰਮਣਾ ਅਹਿ ਤਨੁ ਢੇਰੀ ਥੀਸੀ ॥੩॥੨॥</p><p>Hans cẖalsī dummṇā ah ṯan dẖerī thīsī. ||3||2||</p><p>the soul departs, sad at heart, and this body returns to dust. ||3||2||</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luckysingh, post: 183804, member: 16886"] A nice post and I like the way you look at it. I have just added a little here with a small cross ref from Bhai Gurdas Ji vaaran. The more we delve into it sometimes, the deeper it keeps getting ! Although the overall essence I get is similar to your quote. ਸੂਹੀ ਲਲਿਤ ॥ Sūhī laliṯ. Soohee, Lalit: ਬੇੜਾ ਬੰਧਿ ਨ ਸਕਿਓ ਬੰਧਨ ਕੀ ਵੇਲਾ ॥ Beṛā banḏẖ na saki▫o banḏẖan kī velā. You were not able to make yourself a raft when you should have. ਭਰਿ ਸਰਵਰੁ ਜਬ ਊਛਲੈ ਤਬ ਤਰਣੁ ਦੁਹੇਲਾ ॥੧॥ Bẖar sarvar jab ūcẖẖlai ṯab ṯaraṇ ḏuhelā. ||1|| When the ocean is churning and over-flowing, then it is very difficult to cross over it. ||1|| [COLOR=purple]I think of the world ocean references as referred to the mind's mental ocean or ''mannsarover''- (mind sarover)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#800080]Although, I have often associated it with the maya world ocean as well, many times. There is No raft or barge pole or any tool that can help us along. In this sense we have to create and make the mind's raft.[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]I think of the 'ego' water bubble that we build around us that gives us the false impression of floating above this ocean. Thus making the raft is only achieved if we step out of the false ego bubble.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#800080]Only then can we get across without letting the bubble get churned and tossed with the waves.[/COLOR] ਹਥੁ ਨ ਲਾਇ ਕਸੁੰਭੜੈ ਜਲਿ ਜਾਸੀ ਢੋਲਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Hath na lā▫e kasumbẖ▫ṛai jal jāsī dẖolā. ||1|| rahā▫o. Do not touch the safflower with your hands; its color will fade away, my dear. ||1||Pause|| [COLOR=purple]The safflower I believe has deep beautiful colors as mentioned by findingmywayji.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#800080]Bhai Gurdas ji's vaar(the key to unlock) 30 pauri6, explains this color of the manmukh quite well-[/COLOR] [I]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਚੁ ਸੁਰੰਗ ਹੈ ਮੂਲ ਮਜੀਠ ਨ ਟਲੈ ਟਲੰਦਾ। Guramoukhi Sachu Surangu Hai Moolu Majeetd N Talai Taladaa. Truth in the form of gurmukhs is such a beautiful madder colour which [B]never[/B] fades.[/I] [I]ਮਨਮੁਖ ਕੂੜੁ ਕੁਰੰਗ ਹੈ ਫੁਲ ਕੁਸੁੰਭੈ ਥਿਰ ਨ ਰਹੰਦਾ। Manamoukhu Koorhu Kurang Hai Phul Kousounbhai Dir N Rahandaa. The colour of mind oriented, manmukh, is like the colour of safflower which soon fades away.[/I] [COLOR=purple]Touching the safflower with our hands is like letting our Minds be touched by the maya illusion and ego. It is never permanent as compared to the Truth conquering minds of the gurmukhs.[/COLOR] ਇਕ ਆਪੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ਪਤਲੀ ਸਹ ਕੇਰੇ ਬੋਲਾ ॥ Ik āpīnĥai paṯlī sah kere bolā. First, the bride herself is weak, and then, her Husband Lord's Order is hard to bear. ਦੁਧਾ ਥਣੀ ਨ ਆਵਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਹੋਇ ਨ ਮੇਲਾ ॥੨॥ Ḏuḏẖā thaṇī na āvī fir ho▫e na melā. ||2|| Milk does not return to the breast; it will not be collected again. ||2|| [COLOR=purple]We are talking about us as the soul bride of husband Lord here. The Milk is usually referred to as a purity, necessity or truth. Maybe this means that the truth, purity and goodness is not collected again. Our good deeds don't make us a permanent good and truthful person, they have to be keep being produced. We have to keep up the maintenance of truthful good deeds.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#800080]Another way of looking at it ,is that the milk is needed to give to the child of the mother. In our soul bride case, the milk is the truth and gian for the mind. Since this same mind has to have the raft to stay afloat. ie. we can't just drop the ego to get the raft and then that's it !!- we have to continuously keep building this raft. It doesn't just get produced the once to help us across our whole lifetime, we have to sustain it with continuous effort.[/COLOR] ਕਹੈ ਫਰੀਦੁ ਸਹੇਲੀਹੋ ਸਹੁ ਅਲਾਏਸੀ ॥ Kahai Farīḏ sahelīho saho alā▫esī. Says Fareed, O my companions, when our Husband Lord calls, ਹੰਸੁ ਚਲਸੀ ਡੁੰਮਣਾ ਅਹਿ ਤਨੁ ਢੇਰੀ ਥੀਸੀ ॥੩॥੨॥ Hans cẖalsī dummṇā ah ṯan dẖerī thīsī. ||3||2|| the soul departs, sad at heart, and this body returns to dust. ||3||2|| [/QUOTE]
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