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Guru Nanak Dev Ji Being Asked: How World Created; How To Remove Suffering … Last Of 19


ੴ / Ik▫oaʼnkār
Dec 21, 2010
In these questions and paraphrasing the issue is how is the universe created and how is misery eliminated?

Let us review the following,

Sidhas/Yogis ask:
ਕਿਤੁ ਕਿਤੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਜਗੁ ਉਪਜੈ ਪੁਰਖਾ ਕਿਤੁ ਕਿਤੁ ਦੁਖਿ ਬਿਨਸਿ ਜਾਈ …….
Kiṯ kiṯ biḏẖ jag upjai purkẖā kiṯ kiṯ ḏukẖ binas jā▫ī. ……..
Gentleman, which ways is the world created? Which ways the suffering be destroyed?
Guru Ji’s answers:
……… ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਗੁ ਉਪਜੈ ਪੁਰਖਾ ਨਾਮਿ ਵਿਸਰਿਐ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਈ
……….. Ha▫umai vicẖ jag upjai purkẖā nām visri▫ai ḏukẖ pā▫ī.
……….. Gentleman, in egotism the world creates. In forgetting the understanding of the creator is suffering.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੁ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਤਤੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਜਲਾਏ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਨਿਰਮਲੁ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਾਚੈ ਰਹੈ ਸਮਾਏ
Gurmukẖ hovai so gi▫ān ṯaṯ bīcẖārai ha▫umai sabaḏ jalā▫e. Ŧan man nirmal nirmal baṇī sācẖai rahai samā▫e.
One so in tune with creator’s being contemplates upon essence of the wisdom, ego is so burnt through wisdom. Body and mind pure, pure the treatise that the true ones stay submerged in.

ਨਾਮੇ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਹੈ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਸਾਚੁ ਰਖਿਆ ਉਰਿ ਧਾਰੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਜੋਗੁ ਕਦੇ ਹੋਵੈ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਬੀਚਾਰੇ ੬੮॥
Nāme nām rahai bairāgī sācẖ rakẖi▫ā ur ḏẖāre. Nānak bin nāvai jog kaḏe na hovai ḏekẖhu riḏai bīcẖāre. ||68||
In understanding so absorbed the contemplator, truth so steadfastly sustained within. Nanak without following understanding there is no yogic achievement, so see this through contemplating in the heart.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਚੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੈ ਕੋਇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਚੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ
Gurmukẖ sācẖ sabaḏ bīcẖārai ko▫e. Gurmukẖ sacẖ baṇī pargat ho▫e.
One so in tune with creator’s being contemplates upon true wisdom. One so in tune with creator’s being so visualizes the true treatise.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮਨੁ ਭੀਜੈ ਵਿਰਲਾ ਬੂਝੈ ਕੋਇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸਾ ਹੋਇ
Gurmukẖ man bẖījai virlā būjẖai ko▫e. Gurmukẖ nij gẖar vāsā ho▫e.
One so in tune with creator’s being finds drenched mind, few so discover. One so in tune with creator’s being finds living abode in closeness.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜੋਗੀ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਪਛਾਣੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਣੈ ੬੯॥
Gurmukẖ jogī jugaṯ pacẖẖāṇai. Gurmukẖ Nānak eko jāṇai. ||69||
One so in tune with creator’s being, such hermit so recognizes the secrets. Nanak, one so in tune with creator’s being only knows only of one.
In this last of the questioning lines, the issue of the creation of world/universe and the elimination of misery or suffering therein is addressed.

Guru ji pointedly state that ego is the root of much that we claim to know, ask or state. In so doing the forgetting about the one creator becomes a root cause of much pain and suffering. Guru ji here re-iterate the ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ / Gurmukẖ (Gur-mukh-ai) stance to all this. In actions, in seeking understanding and in recognizing the wisdom that lies in all this. One so steadfastly looking up to the creator, contemplating upon the creator, focusing on wisdom of the creator even among such few the secrets are so discovered.

Guru ji also clearly state the futility of yogic or other regimens in this regard as the wisdom of the creator cannot be but the sole focus versus any diversions or shortcuts.

What you think?

Sat Sri Akal.

PS: Please see the appropriate complete Shabad here,



Dec 3, 2011
HOW and in WHICH WAY (kit kit bidh) does the world get created and how and which way does it get all the suffering(dukh) and distress ???

ANSWER- is that HAUMAI creates all forms of dukh.
Since, the haumai is what puts the line in between US and HIM.-it is haumai that causes the ''Duality''
If there is NO Duality, then there is only him without this haumai in the maya world.

Dukh is a perception for our haumai, and Guru ji instructs us in gurbani that a gurmukh responds equally to BOTH dukh and sukh.
Therefore a gurmukh does not have the line of duality inbetween sukh and dukh either.
Accept this duality and haumai, and then we should begin to conquer and eradicate it!

When one forgets the creator Lord's name as being the ONE, then the suffering and distress is perceived.(naam visaria=forgets name, dukh paia)

The 2nd line tells us that with the Guru's shabad, haumai can be burnt(jalai)
His Mind, Body and words(tan man nirmal, nirmal bani) become pure and truthful(nirmal)

Bin nave jog kade na hovey= without the name there can be no yoga or union.

The gurmukh is the one that can realize this and dwell in the true name.



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