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Guru Nanak Dev Ji Being Asked: Catch 22 Like, If Mind Lives On Air, What Does Air Depend Upon; Gain


ੴ / Ik▫oaʼnkār
Dec 21, 2010
In this series of questions the Sidhs ask about logical dependencies of beliefs and statements about life. They also ask how one could become wise.

Let us review the following,

Sidhas/Yogis ask:
ਮਨ ਕਾ ਜੀਉ ਪਵਨੁ ਕਥੀਅਲੇ ਪਵਨੁ ਕਹਾ ਰਸੁ ਖਾਈ ਗਿਆਨ ਕੀ ਮੁਦ੍ਰਾ ਕਵਨ ਅਉਧੂ ਸਿਧ ਕੀ ਕਵਨ ਕਮਾਈ
Man kā jī▫o pavan kathī▫ale pavan kahā ras kẖā▫ī. Gi▫ān kī muḏrā kavan a▫oḏẖū siḏẖ kī kavan kamā▫ī.
Support for mind is stated as the air, where does air get nourishment? What technique to gain wisdom? Say hermit, what accomplishment for the recluse?

Guru Ji’s answers:
ਬਿਨੁ ਸਬਦੈ ਰਸੁ ਆਵੈ ਅਉਧੂ ਹਉਮੈ ਪਿਆਸ ਜਾਈ ਸਬਦਿ ਰਤੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਸਾਚੇ ਰਹੇ ਅਘਾਈ
Bin sabḏai ras na āvai a▫oḏẖū ha▫umai pi▫ās na jā▫ī. Sabaḏ raṯe amriṯ ras pā▫i▫ā sācẖe rahe agẖā▫ī.
No nourishment without wisdom. Hermit the egotism thirst is not quenched. Imbued in wisdom, submerged in pure essence. So fulfilled through the true one.
Another dialog follows,
Sidhas/Yogis ask:
ਕਵਨ ਬੁਧਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਅਸਥਿਰੁ ਰਹੀਐ ਕਿਤੁ ਭੋਜਨਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਾਸੈ
Kavan buḏẖ jiṯ asthir rahī▫ai kiṯ bẖojan ṯaripṯāsai.
What wisdom that provides steadiness? What food to be always satisfied?

Guru Ji’s answers:
ਨਾਨਕ ਦੁਖੁ ਸੁਖੁ ਸਮ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਕਾਲੁ ਗ੍ਰਾਸੈ ੬੧॥
Nānak ḏukẖ sukẖ sam kar jāpai saṯgur ṯe kāl na garāsai. ||61||
Nanak understand pain and comfort to be the same, with true creator death does not approach.
ਰੰਗਿ ਰਾਤਾ ਰਸਿ ਨਹੀ ਮਾਤਾ ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੈ ਜਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਤਾਤਾ
Rang na rāṯā ras nahī māṯā. Bin gur sabḏai jal bal ṯāṯā.
Not imbued in the creator, not submerged in essence. Without creator’s wisdom, so burning and frustrated inside.
ਬਿੰਦੁ ਰਾਖਿਆ ਸਬਦੁ ਭਾਖਿਆ ਪਵਨੁ ਸਾਧਿਆ ਸਚੁ ਅਰਾਧਿਆ
Binḏ na rākẖi▫ā sabaḏ na bẖākẖi▫ā. Pavan na sāḏẖi▫ā sacẖ na arāḏẖi▫ā.
One not preserving creative force and does not disserts wisdom. Not correcting life force, not contemplating the truth.
ਅਕਥ ਕਥਾ ਲੇ ਸਮ ਕਰਿ ਰਹੈ ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਆਤਮ ਰਾਮ ਕਉ ਲਹੈ ੬੨॥
Akath kathā le sam kar rahai. Ŧa▫o Nānak āṯam rām ka▫o lahai. ||62||
Infinitely studying while living in unison. Nanak, the ,one attains, the understanding of creator’s soul.
ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਰੰਗੇ ਰਾਤਾ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਆ ਸਾਚੇ ਮਾਤਾ
Gur parsādī range rāṯā. Amriṯ pī▫ā sācẖe māṯā.
In creator’s blessing so submerged and immersed. The true essence so consumed as focused on the true one.
ਗੁਰ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ਅਗਨਿ ਨਿਵਾਰੀ ਅਪਿਉ ਪੀਓ ਆਤਮ ਸੁਖੁ ਧਾਰੀ
Gur vīcẖārī agan nivārī. Api▫o pī▫o āṯam sukẖ ḏẖārī.
In contemplation of the creator, the fire so put out. So drinking the essence, soul in comfortable disposition.
ਸਚੁ ਅਰਾਧਿਆ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੁ ਤਾਰੀ ਨਾਨਕ ਬੂਝੈ ਕੋ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ੬੩॥
Sacẖ arāḏẖi▫ā gurmukẖ ṯar ṯārī. Nānak būjẖai ko vīcẖārī. ||63||
Truth contemplated, one so in tune with creator’s being swims over. Nanak few so discover in contemplation.
Essence of Guru Ji’s answers:

Guru ji state that fundamental to all is the seeking of wisdom rather than specific bits of knowledge or inquisitions. This is what is still prevalent in many people’s minds today whether Sikhs or otherwise. We get frozen in space with questions about to eat meat or not, name of the creator, etc., and we totally miss out that wisdom is much greater and cannot be stayed in deference to such distractions. Important as such questions are, these still are not important enough to snuff out the most important teaching of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as to always seek wisdom and remembering the wisdom to be sought is infinite.

Guru ji go on to describe later in the above extract as how wisdom is what nourishes the soul. A unison and closeness so attained as more one acquires the wisdom the closer to creator's realization one gets.

What you think?

Sat Sri Akal.

PS: Please see the appropriate complete Shabad here,

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