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<blockquote data-quote="Khalsa1699" data-source="post: 56158" data-attributes="member: 4714"><p><strong>re: Guru Nanak: A 'False' Prophet ?</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I give you text from few NON-SIKH sources about the Sikhs so that so called Muslims on this Forum don’t accuse of text from Sikh Sources being exaggerated </span></span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Banda’s heroic stand won admiration from his enemies as well, the contemporary historian Kamwar Khan wrote: </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">“It is known to everyone that the late Emperor Bahadur Shah, with 4 royal princes and numerous generals, had made efforts to repress this rebellion, but it was all fruitless. It was by the grace of God and not by wisdom or bravery that this came to happen that Banda and a few thousand of his companions have been starved into surrender(Mohammed Hadi Kamwar Khan, Tazkira-us-Salatin Chugjtiya, Page 179)</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The English Adventurer George Thomas states in his memoirs: </span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">“Instances indeed have not infrequently occurred, in which Sikh women have actually taken up arms to defend their habitations from the desultory attacks of the enemy, and throughout the contest behaved themselves with an intrepidity of spirit, highly praiseworthy.” (Page 75)</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">A Punjabi doggerel expresses Sikh sentiment at the time</span></span></li> </ul><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Mir Mannu is our sickle,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">We the fodder for him to mow,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The more he reaps, the more we grow. (Aliuddin, Ibrat Nama, iii a)</span></span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">“Although the Sikhs made their Afghan prisoners clean the Harimandir and retaliated by slaying hogs in mosques, they did not massacre any captives, as the Afghans had done. “The Sikhs”, writes Forster, “set a bound to the impulse of revenge, and though the Afghan massacre and persecution must have been deeply imprinted on their minds, they did not destroy one prisoner in cold blood”. (Ibid. P 279)</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Nur Mohammad is full of vile abuse of the Sikhs <strong>BUT EVEN HE IS CONSTRAINED TO PAY THEM TRIBUTE AS MEN OF CHARACTER. </strong>“In no case would they slay a coward, nor would they put an obstacle in the way of a fugitive. They do not plunder the wealth and ornaments of a woman, be she a well-to-do lady or a maid-servant. There is no adultery among these, nor are these mischievous people given to thieving. Whether a woman is young or old, they call her <em>buriya</em> (An old lady) and ask her to get out of the way. There is no thief at all among these, nor is there any house-breaker born among these miscreants. They do not make friends with adulterers and house-breakers. (Jang Name, Page 156-159)</span></span></li> </ul><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Now it is evident for any wise and educated person that how could followers of such a faith which infused in them a high spirit, impeccable character of the time, right of self defence, no adultery, no house breaking, god loving, respect human rights can be followers of ‘False Prophet’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">And at the same time, it is evident that what should be to say about the so called ‘True Prophets’ of such a religion whose followers have nothing in them but cruelty, no respect of human rights, kill people in cold blood and had always done so since the recorded history, have character of lowest being, no respect for females, have nothing but blind ego.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE FATHER LIKE GURU GOBIND SINGH TO INFUSE IN US SUCH A SPIRIT TO FIGHT AGAINST SUCH TYRANTS TO PROTECT OURSELEVS AGAINST THE FORCEFUL CONVERSION INTO SUCH A FALSE, DOUBLE STANDARD RELIGION WHERE WE FIND FOLLOWERS FULL OF LOOSE CHARACTER.</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">AND THIS SPIRIT MADE SIKHS/KHALSA OVERSCOME 2 HOLCASTS AND YET PREVAIL THEMSELVES. FOLLOWERS OF ‘FALSE PROHET’ CAN’T ACHIEVE WHAT SIKHS/KHALSA HAS ACHIEVED.</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">LOOK AT THE PATHANS (AFGANISTAN), NOT A BRICK THERE HAS BEEN SURVIVED. THESE ARE THE SAME PATHANS WHO RAN OVER INDIA IN GENERAL AND PUNJAB IN PARTICULAR IN THEIR QUEST TO LOOT MONEY AND FORECFUL CONVERSIONS INTO ISLAM. WHERE DOES AFGANISTAND STAND TODAY?</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">THEN LOOK AT TURKS (MIDLLE EAST), WHERE THE LOOT HAS GONE AND DESPITE OF HAVING HUGE PILES OF OIL STOCK THERE ARE JUST PUPPETS PALYING IN THE HANDS OF WESTREN COUNTRIES, US IN GENERAL.</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">THEY ARE INTO SUCH A CONDITION BECAUSE THEY ARE INHERITING THE WORST DEEDS OF THEIR FORE FATHERS.</span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">NOW LOOK AT SIKHS WHO THEY WANTED TO EXTERMINATE ALL TOGETHER AND WANTED NOT EVEN A SINGLE SIKH/KHALSA TO BE LEFT ALIVE, THEY FORM THE 5TH LARGEST RELIGION OF THE WORLD TODAY DESPITE OF 2 HOLOCASTS, ONE OF THE MOST PRESPORORUS RELIGION, HARD WORKING, GOD LOVING, PREVALIED EVEN AT THE WORST OF TIME, ALL OVER THE WORLD. THEY ARE INHERITING THE GOOD DEEDS OF THEIR FOREFATHERS. </span></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #993366"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">ALL THIS CAN HAPPEN ONLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND NO PATHAN, TURK OR SO CALLED ISLAMIC FANATIC CAN STOP THOSE PROGRESSING WHO FOLLOWS ‘TRUE RELGION’ FOUNDED BY ‘TRUE PROPHET’ WHO TAUGHT NOTHING BUT ‘TRUTH’. </span></span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khalsa1699, post: 56158, member: 4714"] [b]re: Guru Nanak: A 'False' Prophet ?[/b] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]I give you text from few NON-SIKH sources about the Sikhs so that so called Muslims on this Forum don’t accuse of text from Sikh Sources being exaggerated [/FONT][/SIZE] [LIST] [*][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Banda’s heroic stand won admiration from his enemies as well, the contemporary historian Kamwar Khan wrote: [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]“It is known to everyone that the late Emperor Bahadur Shah, with 4 royal princes and numerous generals, had made efforts to repress this rebellion, but it was all fruitless. It was by the grace of God and not by wisdom or bravery that this came to happen that Banda and a few thousand of his companions have been starved into surrender(Mohammed Hadi Kamwar Khan, Tazkira-us-Salatin Chugjtiya, Page 179)[/FONT][/SIZE] [*][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The English Adventurer George Thomas states in his memoirs: [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]“Instances indeed have not infrequently occurred, in which Sikh women have actually taken up arms to defend their habitations from the desultory attacks of the enemy, and throughout the contest behaved themselves with an intrepidity of spirit, highly praiseworthy.” (Page 75)[/FONT][/SIZE] [*][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]A Punjabi doggerel expresses Sikh sentiment at the time[/FONT][/SIZE][/LIST][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Mir Mannu is our sickle,[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]We the fodder for him to mow,[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The more he reaps, the more we grow. (Aliuddin, Ibrat Nama, iii a)[/FONT][/SIZE] [LIST] [*][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]“Although the Sikhs made their Afghan prisoners clean the Harimandir and retaliated by slaying hogs in mosques, they did not massacre any captives, as the Afghans had done. “The Sikhs”, writes Forster, “set a bound to the impulse of revenge, and though the Afghan massacre and persecution must have been deeply imprinted on their minds, they did not destroy one prisoner in cold blood”. (Ibid. P 279)[/FONT][/SIZE] [*][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Nur Mohammad is full of vile abuse of the Sikhs [B]BUT EVEN HE IS CONSTRAINED TO PAY THEM TRIBUTE AS MEN OF CHARACTER. [/B]“In no case would they slay a coward, nor would they put an obstacle in the way of a fugitive. They do not plunder the wealth and ornaments of a woman, be she a well-to-do lady or a maid-servant. There is no adultery among these, nor are these mischievous people given to thieving. Whether a woman is young or old, they call her [I]buriya[/I] (An old lady) and ask her to get out of the way. There is no thief at all among these, nor is there any house-breaker born among these miscreants. They do not make friends with adulterers and house-breakers. (Jang Name, Page 156-159)[/FONT][/SIZE][/LIST] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Now it is evident for any wise and educated person that how could followers of such a faith which infused in them a high spirit, impeccable character of the time, right of self defence, no adultery, no house breaking, god loving, respect human rights can be followers of ‘False Prophet’.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]And at the same time, it is evident that what should be to say about the so called ‘True Prophets’ of such a religion whose followers have nothing in them but cruelty, no respect of human rights, kill people in cold blood and had always done so since the recorded history, have character of lowest being, no respect for females, have nothing but blind ego.[/FONT][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE FATHER LIKE GURU GOBIND SINGH TO INFUSE IN US SUCH A SPIRIT TO FIGHT AGAINST SUCH TYRANTS TO PROTECT OURSELEVS AGAINST THE FORCEFUL CONVERSION INTO SUCH A FALSE, DOUBLE STANDARD RELIGION WHERE WE FIND FOLLOWERS FULL OF LOOSE CHARACTER.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]AND THIS SPIRIT MADE SIKHS/KHALSA OVERSCOME 2 HOLCASTS AND YET PREVAIL THEMSELVES. FOLLOWERS OF ‘FALSE PROHET’ CAN’T ACHIEVE WHAT SIKHS/KHALSA HAS ACHIEVED.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]LOOK AT THE PATHANS (AFGANISTAN), NOT A BRICK THERE HAS BEEN SURVIVED. THESE ARE THE SAME PATHANS WHO RAN OVER INDIA IN GENERAL AND PUNJAB IN PARTICULAR IN THEIR QUEST TO LOOT MONEY AND FORECFUL CONVERSIONS INTO ISLAM. WHERE DOES AFGANISTAND STAND TODAY?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]THEN LOOK AT TURKS (MIDLLE EAST), WHERE THE LOOT HAS GONE AND DESPITE OF HAVING HUGE PILES OF OIL STOCK THERE ARE JUST PUPPETS PALYING IN THE HANDS OF WESTREN COUNTRIES, US IN GENERAL.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]THEY ARE INTO SUCH A CONDITION BECAUSE THEY ARE INHERITING THE WORST DEEDS OF THEIR FORE FATHERS.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]NOW LOOK AT SIKHS WHO THEY WANTED TO EXTERMINATE ALL TOGETHER AND WANTED NOT EVEN A SINGLE SIKH/KHALSA TO BE LEFT ALIVE, THEY FORM THE 5TH LARGEST RELIGION OF THE WORLD TODAY DESPITE OF 2 HOLOCASTS, ONE OF THE MOST PRESPORORUS RELIGION, HARD WORKING, GOD LOVING, PREVALIED EVEN AT THE WORST OF TIME, ALL OVER THE WORLD. THEY ARE INHERITING THE GOOD DEEDS OF THEIR FOREFATHERS. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#993366][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]ALL THIS CAN HAPPEN ONLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND NO PATHAN, TURK OR SO CALLED ISLAMIC FANATIC CAN STOP THOSE PROGRESSING WHO FOLLOWS ‘TRUE RELGION’ FOUNDED BY ‘TRUE PROPHET’ WHO TAUGHT NOTHING BUT ‘TRUTH’. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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