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<blockquote data-quote="jagamansingh" data-source="post: 45700" data-attributes="member: 2080"><p><strong>re: Guru Nanak: A 'False' Prophet ?</strong></p><p></p><p>Before answering to this Narrow Minded Jinni and his many of his like, obessessed of their preacher, in great Foolishness starts thinking that they are the only custodian of GOD. Please allow me to call them FOOLS whose scope is so limited that in utter ignorance and foolishness they even don’t understand what they are saying and about whome they are writing about ? I don’t understand from where they get all such rubbish, like defining features of PROPHETS. I am sure its through reading cheep books (As this he/she have got from one such ).</p><p> </p><p>I cannot dare to define Prophets as this is far beyond my limits. Their qualities, cannot be traped into words, still few of them on the basis of my mental limitations are</p><p>-They have message of GOD.</p><p>-How far and to what extent that message havebeen spreaded by them to the Humanity.</p><p>-He should not be a prophet merely of a community, creed, race etc but of humanity as a whole.</p><p>-He should love the creation of the creator and should bear qualities of LORD (Ram Kabira ek Bhaye hain Koi na Sakeh Pachani) </p><p>Firstly, message NANAK SAHIB had was about one GOD, Equality of mankind, Love, Mutual respect, equality of men-women, and path to meet almighty i.e by naam simran……</p><p>‘EK PITA EKAS KE HUM BAAREK’,</p><p>‘KOI BOLE RAM RAM KOI KHUDA-E, KOI SAVEA GUSAIYA KOI AALA-E KARAN KARAN KAREEM KIRPA DHAR RAHEEM’ (and infinite number of them).</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, None other prophet in the history of world has covered such wide distance to spread the message of GOD that they have. NOT only in complete India from jammu to kerela and from Gujarat to Assasm, But also to PAKISTHAN, AFGHANISTHAN, SAUDI ARIBIA, MEECA, IRAQ, TIBBET, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, and SRILANKA and that too on his nobel Feets. That is why he is ‘prophet of prophets’.Yes he setteled in Kartarpur during the later years of his life but only after completing the task levied on him, but never did he retire from preaching. Unlike other prophets he did not get fixed at a place enjoying worldly pleasures. That’s why Guru Gobind Sahib says that "even the prophets have to pay the account of their deeds before Almighty".</p><p> </p><p>Thirdly, Yes Nanak Sahib never said that he was son or prophet of Almighty, these were the techiniques used by his preceeders to acknowledge their legitimacy. It sounds strange some one claiming himself that he is the prophet and some even said that they are the last one. Greatness would have been in the fact that the others claim them to be the true prophet of God. Nanak sahib always loved calling himself as a SLAVE(one who have no right of his own) of GOD. This is the greatness of Nanak sahib that except himself every others accept him as True messenger of GOD(He always have reffered himself as NANAK DASS).</p><p> </p><p>Fourthly, Not only Sikhs were followers of Baba NANAK, but also muslims and hindus and where ever he went people followed him. His preaching was for all irrespective of religion, caste and creed. Muslim Sufis had great respect and devotion for NANAK Sahib. He was equally love by all and this is evident from the incident that there was conflict between muslims and hindus over the performance of last rituals of Baba NANAK, each of them claiming him as their prophet. (This is for that jinni, so I advise u to read more and some good and informative literature).</p><p> </p><p>Fifthly, Its important to know by what means faith hasbeen spreaded. Was it at the power of sword or on the basis of principle of merit. History reviels that Islam was spreaded at the point of terror, at the power of sword. All the muslims of afghanisthan, pakisthan, India and central asia were originally budhists but were later converted into muslims not by the reformers,but by the muslim attackers and plunderers who came to these countries for the purpose of looting. If its so then Muhmud ghori and Ghaznavi were more bigger prophets because they have spreaded islam more than Prophet Muhamad. But Sikhism has spreaded only on one principle that is ‘Principle of Merit’. And sikh is the religion that will even further enhance only because of its merit.</p><p> </p><p>Sixthly, All the sikh gurus have continued the guruship only at the name of GURU NANAK SAHIB. Right from Nanak Sahib wearing Kesh have started guru Gobind Singh Sahib institutionalised the teachings of Nanak Sahib. Source of all intellect of Gurus Sahibs was NANAK SAHIB. That is why none used their personal names but preached at the name of NANAK SAHIB.</p><p>Seventhly, I think this jinni have not even made sincere reading of ‘Quran’. Had he/she done that he/she had not made that blunder and earning the‘sin’ of refuting the words of her own prophet. Muhamad sabh in Quran complaining to the ALLAH says that "Why he is send 1000 years before, when you(Allah) himself was appearing in the world with the name NANAK". </p><p> </p><p>Lastly, we even do not believe in the Theory of Last prophet as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib unilaterally rejected it with his true words "Kal Purakh Ki Deh Mo Kotak Bisan Mahesh, Kot Inder Brahma Kite Rav Sas Kot Jaleesh ". There are millions and millions of such prophets within the fold of ALMIGHTY, that’s why he even with all the sikh gurus call themselves ‘DASS’ .</p><p> </p><p>So This is a very mature forum, so here message of peace and love are spreaded, not of the Hatered. Better U come and tell what Quran says about different aspects rather than questioning the legitemacy of Guru Sahibs, that will be more welcomed. But remember Sikhs are equipped with all shastras and bhramastras and have potential to deal situations of every level.</p><p> </p><p>Bhul Chuk di Kshama , </p><p>Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa Sri Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh</p><p>Dass Guru Sahiban Da</p><p></p><p>Before answering to this Narrow Minded Jinni and his many of his like, obessessed of their preacher, in great Foolishness starts thinking that they are the only custodian of GOD. Please allow me to call them FOOLS whose scope is so limited that in utter ignorance and foolishness they even don’t understand what they are saying and about whome they are writing about ? I don’t understand from where they get all such rubbish, like defining features of PROPHETS. I am sure its through reading cheep books (As this he/she have got from one such ).</p><p>I cannot dare to define Prophets as this is far beyond my limits. Their qualities, cannot be traped into words, still few of them on the basis of my mental limitations are</p><p>1. They have message of GOD.</p><p>2. How far and to what extent that message havebeen spreaded by them to the Humanity.</p><p>3. He should not be a prophet merely of a community, creed, race etc but of humanity as a whole.</p><p>4. He should love the creation of the creator and should have qualities of LORD (Ram Kabira ek Bhaye hain Koi na Sakeh Pachani) </p><p>Firstly, message NANAK SAHIB had was about one GOD, Equality of mankind, Love, Mutual respect, equality of men-women, and path to meet almighty i.e by naam simran……</p><p>‘EK PITA EKAS KE HUM BAAREK’,</p><p>‘KOI BOLE RAM RAM KOI KHUDA-E, KOI SAVEA GUSAIYA KOI AALA-E KARAN KARAN KAREEM KIRPA DHAR RAHEEM’ (and infinite number of them).</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, None other prophet in the history of world has covered such wide distance to spread the message of GOD that they have. NOT only in complete India from jammu to kerela and from Gujarat to Assasm, But also to PAKISTHAN, AFGHANISTHAN, SAUDI ARIBIA, MEECA, IRAQ, TIBBET, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, and SRILANKA and that too on his nobel Feets. That is why he is ‘prophet of prophets’.Yes he setteled in Kartarpur during the later years of his life but only after completing the task levied on him, but never did he retire from preaching. Unlike other prophets he did not get fixed at a place enjoying worldly pleasures. That’s why Guru Gobind Sahib says that "even the prophets have to pay the account of their deeds before Almighty".</p><p> </p><p>Thirdly, Yes Nanak Sahib never said that he was son or prophet of Almighty, these were the techiniques used by his preceeders to acknowledge their legitimacy. It sounds strange some one claiming himself that he is the prophet and some even said that they are the last one. Greatness would have been in the fact that the others claim them to be the true prophet of God. Nanak sahib always loved calling himself as a SLAVE(one who have no right of his own) of GOD. This is the greatness of Nanak sahib that except himself every others accept him as True messenger of GOD(He always have reffered himself as NANAK DASS).</p><p> </p><p>Fourthly, Not only Sikhs were followers of Baba NANAK, but also muslims and hindus and where ever he went people followed him. His preaching was for all irrespective of religion, caste and creed. Muslim Sufis had great respect and devotion for NANAK Sahib. He was equally love by all and this is evident from the incident that there was conflict between muslims and hindus over the performance of last rituals of Baba NANAK, each of them claiming him as their prophet. (This is for that jinni, so I advise u to read more and some good and informative literature).</p><p> </p><p>Fifthly, Its important to know by what means faith hasbeen spreaded. Was it at the power of sword or on the basis of principle of merit. History reviels that Islam was spreaded at the point of terror, at the power of sword. All the muslims of afghanisthan, pakisthan, India and central asia were originally budhists but were later converted into muslims not by the reformers,but by the muslim attackers and plunderers who came to these countries for the purpose of looting. If its so then Muhmud ghori and Ghaznavi were more bigger prophets because they have spreaded islam more than Prophet Muhamad. But Sikhism has spreaded only on one principle that is ‘Principle of Merit’. And sikh is the religion that will even further enhance only because of its merit.</p><p> </p><p>Sixthly, All the sikh gurus have continued the guruship only at the name of GURU NANAK SAHIB. Right from Nanak Sahib wearing Kesh have started guru Gobind Singh Sahib institutionalised the teachings of Nanak Sahib. Source of all intellect of Gurus Sahibs was NANAK SAHIB. That is why none used their personal names but preached at the name of NANAK SAHIB.</p><p> </p><p>Seventhly, I think this jinni have not even made sincere reading of ‘Quran’. Had he/she done that he/she had not made that blunder and earning the‘sin’ of refuting the words of her own prophet. Muhamad sabh in Quran complaining to the ALLAH says that "Why he is send 1000 years before, when you(Allah) himself was appearing in the world with the name NANAK". </p><p> </p><p>Lastly, we even do not believe in the Theory of Last prophet as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib unilaterally rejected it with his true words "Kal Purakh Ki Deh Mo Kotak Bisan Mahesh, Kot Inder Brahma Kite Rav Sas Kot Jaleesh ". There are millions and millions of such prophets within the fold of ALMIGHTY, that’s why he even with all the sikh gurus call themselves ‘DASS’.</p><p> </p><p>So This is a very mature forum, so here message of peace and love are spreaded, not of the Hatered. Better U come and tell what Quran says about different aspects rather than questioning the legitemacy of Guru Sahibs, that will be more welcomed. But remember Sikhs are equipped with all shastras and bhramastras and have potential to deal situations of every level. </p><p> </p><p>Bhul Chuk di Kshama , </p><p>Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa Sri Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh</p><p>Dass Guru Sahiban Da</p><p></p><p>Before answering to this Narrow Minded Jinni and his many of his like, obessessed of their preacher, in great Foolishness starts thinking that they are the only custodian of GOD. Please allow me to call them FOOLS whose scope is so limited that in utter ignorance and foolishness they even don’t understand what they are saying and about whome they are writing about ? I don’t understand from where they get all such rubbish, like defining features of PROPHETS. I am sure its through reading cheep books (As this he/she have got from one such ).</p><p>I cannot dare to define Prophets as this is far beyond my limits. Their qualities, cannot be traped into words, still few of them on the basis of my mental limitations are</p><p>They have message of GOD.</p><p>How far and to what extent that message havebeen spreaded by them to the Humanity.</p><p>He should not be a prophet merely of a community, creed, race etc but of humanity as a whole.</p><p>He should love the creation of the creator and should bear qualities of LORD (Ram Kabira ek Bhaye hain Koi na Sakeh Pachani) </p><p>Firstly, message NANAK SAHIB had was about one GOD, Equality of mankind, Love, Mutual respect, equality of men-women, and path to meet almighty i.e by naam simran……</p><p>‘EK PITA EKAS KE HUM BAAREK’,</p><p>‘KOI BOLE RAM RAM KOI KHUDA-E, KOI SAVEA GUSAIYA KOI AALA-E KARAN KARAN KAREEM KIRPA DHAR RAHEEM’ (and infinite number of them).</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, None other prophet in the history of world has covered such wide distance to spread the message of GOD that they have. NOT only in complete India from jammu to kerela and from Gujarat to Assasm, But also to PAKISTHAN, AFGHANISTHAN, SAUDI ARIBIA, MEECA, IRAQ, TIBBET, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, and SRILANKA and that too on his nobel Feets. That is why he is ‘prophet of prophets’.Yes he setteled in Kartarpur during the later years of his life but only after completing the task levied on him, but never did he retire from preaching. Unlike other prophets he did not get fixed at a place enjoying worldly pleasures. That’s why Guru Gobind Sahib says that "even the prophets have to pay the account of their deeds before Almighty".</p><p> </p><p>Thirdly, Yes Nanak Sahib never said that he was son or prophet of Almighty, these were the techiniques used by his preceeders to acknowledge their legitimacy. It sounds strange some one claiming himself that he is the prophet and some even said that they are the last one. Greatness would have been in the fact that the others claim them to be the true prophet of God. Nanak sahib always loved calling himself as a SLAVE(one who have no right of his own) of GOD. This is the greatness of Nanak sahib that except himself every others accept him as True messenger of GOD(He always have reffered himself as NANAK DASS).</p><p> </p><p>Fourthly, Not only Sikhs were followers of Baba NANAK, but also muslims and hindus and where ever he went people followed him. His preaching was for all irrespective of religion, caste and creed. Muslim Sufis had great respect and devotion for NANAK Sahib. He was equally love by all and this is evident from the incident that there was conflict between muslims and hindus over the performance of last rituals of Baba NANAK, each of them claiming him as their prophet. (This is for that jinni, so I advise u to read more and some good and informative literature).</p><p> </p><p>Fifthly, Its important to know by what means faith hasbeen spreaded. Was it at the power of sword or on the basis of principle of merit. History reviels that Islam was spreaded at the point of terror, at the power of sword. All the muslims of afghanisthan, pakisthan, India and central asia were originally budhists but were later converted into muslims not by the reformers,but by the muslim attackers and plunderers who came to these countries for the purpose of looting. If its so then Muhmud ghori and Ghaznavi were more bigger prophets because they have spreaded islam more than Prophet Muhamad. But Sikhism has spreaded only on one principle that is ‘Principle of Merit’. And sikh is the religion that will even further enhance only because of its merit.</p><p> </p><p>Sixthly, All the sikh gurus have continued the guruship only at the name of GURU NANAK SAHIB. Right from Nanak Sahib wearing Kesh have started guru Gobind Singh Sahib institutionalised the teachings of Nanak Sahib. Source of all intellect of Gurus Sahibs was NANAK SAHIB. That is why none used their personal names but preached at the name of NANAK SAHIB.</p><p> </p><p>Seventhly, I think this jinni have not even made sincere reading of ‘Quran’. Had he/she done that he/she had not made that blunder and earning the‘sin’ of refuting the words of her own prophet. Muhamad sabh in Quran complaining to the ALLAH says that "Why he is send 1000 years before, when you(Allah) himself was appearing in the world with the name NANAK". </p><p> </p><p>Lastly, we even do not believe in the Theory of Last prophet as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib unilaterally rejected it with his true words "Kal Purakh Ki Deh Mo Kotak Bisan Mahesh, Kot Inder Brahma Kite Rav Sas Kot Jaleesh ". There are millions and millions of such prophets within the fold of ALMIGHTY, that’s why he even with all the sikh gurus call themselves ‘DASS’ .</p><p> </p><p>So This is a very mature forum, so here message of peace and love are spreaded, not of the Hatered. Better U come and tell what Quran says about different aspects rather than questioning the legitemacy of Guru Sahibs, that will be more welcomed. But remember Sikhs are equipped with all shastras and bhramastras and have potential to deal situations of every level. </p><p> </p><p>Bhul Chuk di Kshama , </p><p>Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa Sri Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh</p><p>Dass Guru Sahiban Da</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jagamansingh, post: 45700, member: 2080"] [b]re: Guru Nanak: A 'False' Prophet ?[/b] Before answering to this Narrow Minded Jinni and his many of his like, obessessed of their preacher, in great Foolishness starts thinking that they are the only custodian of GOD. Please allow me to call them FOOLS whose scope is so limited that in utter ignorance and foolishness they even don’t understand what they are saying and about whome they are writing about ? I don’t understand from where they get all such rubbish, like defining features of PROPHETS. I am sure its through reading cheep books (As this he/she have got from one such ). I cannot dare to define Prophets as this is far beyond my limits. Their qualities, cannot be traped into words, still few of them on the basis of my mental limitations are -They have message of GOD. -How far and to what extent that message havebeen spreaded by them to the Humanity. -He should not be a prophet merely of a community, creed, race etc but of humanity as a whole. -He should love the creation of the creator and should bear qualities of LORD (Ram Kabira ek Bhaye hain Koi na Sakeh Pachani) Firstly, message NANAK SAHIB had was about one GOD, Equality of mankind, Love, Mutual respect, equality of men-women, and path to meet almighty i.e by naam simran…… ‘EK PITA EKAS KE HUM BAAREK’, ‘KOI BOLE RAM RAM KOI KHUDA-E, KOI SAVEA GUSAIYA KOI AALA-E KARAN KARAN KAREEM KIRPA DHAR RAHEEM’ (and infinite number of them). Secondly, None other prophet in the history of world has covered such wide distance to spread the message of GOD that they have. NOT only in complete India from jammu to kerela and from Gujarat to Assasm, But also to PAKISTHAN, AFGHANISTHAN, SAUDI ARIBIA, MEECA, IRAQ, TIBBET, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, and SRILANKA and that too on his nobel Feets. That is why he is ‘prophet of prophets’.Yes he setteled in Kartarpur during the later years of his life but only after completing the task levied on him, but never did he retire from preaching. Unlike other prophets he did not get fixed at a place enjoying worldly pleasures. That’s why Guru Gobind Sahib says that "even the prophets have to pay the account of their deeds before Almighty". Thirdly, Yes Nanak Sahib never said that he was son or prophet of Almighty, these were the techiniques used by his preceeders to acknowledge their legitimacy. It sounds strange some one claiming himself that he is the prophet and some even said that they are the last one. Greatness would have been in the fact that the others claim them to be the true prophet of God. Nanak sahib always loved calling himself as a SLAVE(one who have no right of his own) of GOD. This is the greatness of Nanak sahib that except himself every others accept him as True messenger of GOD(He always have reffered himself as NANAK DASS). Fourthly, Not only Sikhs were followers of Baba NANAK, but also muslims and hindus and where ever he went people followed him. His preaching was for all irrespective of religion, caste and creed. Muslim Sufis had great respect and devotion for NANAK Sahib. He was equally love by all and this is evident from the incident that there was conflict between muslims and hindus over the performance of last rituals of Baba NANAK, each of them claiming him as their prophet. (This is for that jinni, so I advise u to read more and some good and informative literature). Fifthly, Its important to know by what means faith hasbeen spreaded. Was it at the power of sword or on the basis of principle of merit. History reviels that Islam was spreaded at the point of terror, at the power of sword. All the muslims of afghanisthan, pakisthan, India and central asia were originally budhists but were later converted into muslims not by the reformers,but by the muslim attackers and plunderers who came to these countries for the purpose of looting. If its so then Muhmud ghori and Ghaznavi were more bigger prophets because they have spreaded islam more than Prophet Muhamad. But Sikhism has spreaded only on one principle that is ‘Principle of Merit’. And sikh is the religion that will even further enhance only because of its merit. Sixthly, All the sikh gurus have continued the guruship only at the name of GURU NANAK SAHIB. Right from Nanak Sahib wearing Kesh have started guru Gobind Singh Sahib institutionalised the teachings of Nanak Sahib. Source of all intellect of Gurus Sahibs was NANAK SAHIB. That is why none used their personal names but preached at the name of NANAK SAHIB. Seventhly, I think this jinni have not even made sincere reading of ‘Quran’. Had he/she done that he/she had not made that blunder and earning the‘sin’ of refuting the words of her own prophet. Muhamad sabh in Quran complaining to the ALLAH says that "Why he is send 1000 years before, when you(Allah) himself was appearing in the world with the name NANAK". Lastly, we even do not believe in the Theory of Last prophet as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib unilaterally rejected it with his true words "Kal Purakh Ki Deh Mo Kotak Bisan Mahesh, Kot Inder Brahma Kite Rav Sas Kot Jaleesh ". There are millions and millions of such prophets within the fold of ALMIGHTY, that’s why he even with all the sikh gurus call themselves ‘DASS’ . So This is a very mature forum, so here message of peace and love are spreaded, not of the Hatered. Better U come and tell what Quran says about different aspects rather than questioning the legitemacy of Guru Sahibs, that will be more welcomed. But remember Sikhs are equipped with all shastras and bhramastras and have potential to deal situations of every level. Bhul Chuk di Kshama , Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa Sri Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh Dass Guru Sahiban Da Before answering to this Narrow Minded Jinni and his many of his like, obessessed of their preacher, in great Foolishness starts thinking that they are the only custodian of GOD. Please allow me to call them FOOLS whose scope is so limited that in utter ignorance and foolishness they even don’t understand what they are saying and about whome they are writing about ? I don’t understand from where they get all such rubbish, like defining features of PROPHETS. I am sure its through reading cheep books (As this he/she have got from one such ). I cannot dare to define Prophets as this is far beyond my limits. Their qualities, cannot be traped into words, still few of them on the basis of my mental limitations are 1. They have message of GOD. 2. How far and to what extent that message havebeen spreaded by them to the Humanity. 3. He should not be a prophet merely of a community, creed, race etc but of humanity as a whole. 4. He should love the creation of the creator and should have qualities of LORD (Ram Kabira ek Bhaye hain Koi na Sakeh Pachani) Firstly, message NANAK SAHIB had was about one GOD, Equality of mankind, Love, Mutual respect, equality of men-women, and path to meet almighty i.e by naam simran…… ‘EK PITA EKAS KE HUM BAAREK’, ‘KOI BOLE RAM RAM KOI KHUDA-E, KOI SAVEA GUSAIYA KOI AALA-E KARAN KARAN KAREEM KIRPA DHAR RAHEEM’ (and infinite number of them). Secondly, None other prophet in the history of world has covered such wide distance to spread the message of GOD that they have. NOT only in complete India from jammu to kerela and from Gujarat to Assasm, But also to PAKISTHAN, AFGHANISTHAN, SAUDI ARIBIA, MEECA, IRAQ, TIBBET, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, and SRILANKA and that too on his nobel Feets. That is why he is ‘prophet of prophets’.Yes he setteled in Kartarpur during the later years of his life but only after completing the task levied on him, but never did he retire from preaching. Unlike other prophets he did not get fixed at a place enjoying worldly pleasures. That’s why Guru Gobind Sahib says that "even the prophets have to pay the account of their deeds before Almighty". Thirdly, Yes Nanak Sahib never said that he was son or prophet of Almighty, these were the techiniques used by his preceeders to acknowledge their legitimacy. It sounds strange some one claiming himself that he is the prophet and some even said that they are the last one. Greatness would have been in the fact that the others claim them to be the true prophet of God. Nanak sahib always loved calling himself as a SLAVE(one who have no right of his own) of GOD. This is the greatness of Nanak sahib that except himself every others accept him as True messenger of GOD(He always have reffered himself as NANAK DASS). Fourthly, Not only Sikhs were followers of Baba NANAK, but also muslims and hindus and where ever he went people followed him. His preaching was for all irrespective of religion, caste and creed. Muslim Sufis had great respect and devotion for NANAK Sahib. He was equally love by all and this is evident from the incident that there was conflict between muslims and hindus over the performance of last rituals of Baba NANAK, each of them claiming him as their prophet. (This is for that jinni, so I advise u to read more and some good and informative literature). Fifthly, Its important to know by what means faith hasbeen spreaded. Was it at the power of sword or on the basis of principle of merit. History reviels that Islam was spreaded at the point of terror, at the power of sword. All the muslims of afghanisthan, pakisthan, India and central asia were originally budhists but were later converted into muslims not by the reformers,but by the muslim attackers and plunderers who came to these countries for the purpose of looting. If its so then Muhmud ghori and Ghaznavi were more bigger prophets because they have spreaded islam more than Prophet Muhamad. But Sikhism has spreaded only on one principle that is ‘Principle of Merit’. And sikh is the religion that will even further enhance only because of its merit. Sixthly, All the sikh gurus have continued the guruship only at the name of GURU NANAK SAHIB. Right from Nanak Sahib wearing Kesh have started guru Gobind Singh Sahib institutionalised the teachings of Nanak Sahib. Source of all intellect of Gurus Sahibs was NANAK SAHIB. That is why none used their personal names but preached at the name of NANAK SAHIB. Seventhly, I think this jinni have not even made sincere reading of ‘Quran’. Had he/she done that he/she had not made that blunder and earning the‘sin’ of refuting the words of her own prophet. Muhamad sabh in Quran complaining to the ALLAH says that "Why he is send 1000 years before, when you(Allah) himself was appearing in the world with the name NANAK". Lastly, we even do not believe in the Theory of Last prophet as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib unilaterally rejected it with his true words "Kal Purakh Ki Deh Mo Kotak Bisan Mahesh, Kot Inder Brahma Kite Rav Sas Kot Jaleesh ". There are millions and millions of such prophets within the fold of ALMIGHTY, that’s why he even with all the sikh gurus call themselves ‘DASS’. So This is a very mature forum, so here message of peace and love are spreaded, not of the Hatered. Better U come and tell what Quran says about different aspects rather than questioning the legitemacy of Guru Sahibs, that will be more welcomed. But remember Sikhs are equipped with all shastras and bhramastras and have potential to deal situations of every level. Bhul Chuk di Kshama , Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa Sri Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh Dass Guru Sahiban Da Before answering to this Narrow Minded Jinni and his many of his like, obessessed of their preacher, in great Foolishness starts thinking that they are the only custodian of GOD. Please allow me to call them FOOLS whose scope is so limited that in utter ignorance and foolishness they even don’t understand what they are saying and about whome they are writing about ? I don’t understand from where they get all such rubbish, like defining features of PROPHETS. I am sure its through reading cheep books (As this he/she have got from one such ). I cannot dare to define Prophets as this is far beyond my limits. Their qualities, cannot be traped into words, still few of them on the basis of my mental limitations are They have message of GOD. How far and to what extent that message havebeen spreaded by them to the Humanity. He should not be a prophet merely of a community, creed, race etc but of humanity as a whole. He should love the creation of the creator and should bear qualities of LORD (Ram Kabira ek Bhaye hain Koi na Sakeh Pachani) Firstly, message NANAK SAHIB had was about one GOD, Equality of mankind, Love, Mutual respect, equality of men-women, and path to meet almighty i.e by naam simran…… ‘EK PITA EKAS KE HUM BAAREK’, ‘KOI BOLE RAM RAM KOI KHUDA-E, KOI SAVEA GUSAIYA KOI AALA-E KARAN KARAN KAREEM KIRPA DHAR RAHEEM’ (and infinite number of them). Secondly, None other prophet in the history of world has covered such wide distance to spread the message of GOD that they have. NOT only in complete India from jammu to kerela and from Gujarat to Assasm, But also to PAKISTHAN, AFGHANISTHAN, SAUDI ARIBIA, MEECA, IRAQ, TIBBET, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, and SRILANKA and that too on his nobel Feets. That is why he is ‘prophet of prophets’.Yes he setteled in Kartarpur during the later years of his life but only after completing the task levied on him, but never did he retire from preaching. Unlike other prophets he did not get fixed at a place enjoying worldly pleasures. That’s why Guru Gobind Sahib says that "even the prophets have to pay the account of their deeds before Almighty". Thirdly, Yes Nanak Sahib never said that he was son or prophet of Almighty, these were the techiniques used by his preceeders to acknowledge their legitimacy. It sounds strange some one claiming himself that he is the prophet and some even said that they are the last one. Greatness would have been in the fact that the others claim them to be the true prophet of God. Nanak sahib always loved calling himself as a SLAVE(one who have no right of his own) of GOD. This is the greatness of Nanak sahib that except himself every others accept him as True messenger of GOD(He always have reffered himself as NANAK DASS). Fourthly, Not only Sikhs were followers of Baba NANAK, but also muslims and hindus and where ever he went people followed him. His preaching was for all irrespective of religion, caste and creed. Muslim Sufis had great respect and devotion for NANAK Sahib. He was equally love by all and this is evident from the incident that there was conflict between muslims and hindus over the performance of last rituals of Baba NANAK, each of them claiming him as their prophet. (This is for that jinni, so I advise u to read more and some good and informative literature). Fifthly, Its important to know by what means faith hasbeen spreaded. Was it at the power of sword or on the basis of principle of merit. History reviels that Islam was spreaded at the point of terror, at the power of sword. All the muslims of afghanisthan, pakisthan, India and central asia were originally budhists but were later converted into muslims not by the reformers,but by the muslim attackers and plunderers who came to these countries for the purpose of looting. If its so then Muhmud ghori and Ghaznavi were more bigger prophets because they have spreaded islam more than Prophet Muhamad. But Sikhism has spreaded only on one principle that is ‘Principle of Merit’. And sikh is the religion that will even further enhance only because of its merit. Sixthly, All the sikh gurus have continued the guruship only at the name of GURU NANAK SAHIB. Right from Nanak Sahib wearing Kesh have started guru Gobind Singh Sahib institutionalised the teachings of Nanak Sahib. Source of all intellect of Gurus Sahibs was NANAK SAHIB. That is why none used their personal names but preached at the name of NANAK SAHIB. Seventhly, I think this jinni have not even made sincere reading of ‘Quran’. Had he/she done that he/she had not made that blunder and earning the‘sin’ of refuting the words of her own prophet. Muhamad sabh in Quran complaining to the ALLAH says that "Why he is send 1000 years before, when you(Allah) himself was appearing in the world with the name NANAK". Lastly, we even do not believe in the Theory of Last prophet as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib unilaterally rejected it with his true words "Kal Purakh Ki Deh Mo Kotak Bisan Mahesh, Kot Inder Brahma Kite Rav Sas Kot Jaleesh ". There are millions and millions of such prophets within the fold of ALMIGHTY, that’s why he even with all the sikh gurus call themselves ‘DASS’ . So This is a very mature forum, so here message of peace and love are spreaded, not of the Hatered. Better U come and tell what Quran says about different aspects rather than questioning the legitemacy of Guru Sahibs, that will be more welcomed. But remember Sikhs are equipped with all shastras and bhramastras and have potential to deal situations of every level. Bhul Chuk di Kshama , Wahe Guru ji Ka Khalsa Sri Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh Dass Guru Sahiban Da [/QUOTE]
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