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<blockquote data-quote="Ambarsaria" data-source="post: 176128" data-attributes="member: 14194"><p>The garbage to support a position is amply written and can be found on the internet. Many a books have been written to mis-direct as well.</p><p></p><p>Let us review one of the references from above,</p><p><span style="color: Navy"><em>Without knowing the allegiance or intentions of the author, worth noting that Punjabi proper is not even mentioned. I assume he calls all Gurus as Sants (let us mix it up and equalize them down with all wanderers!) and what they spoke was Sant Bhasha. Indeed very remarkable that he claims there was no Punjabi in Punjab just a mish-mash.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><em>It is remarkable that one can read Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and understand it fairly well by just knowing Punjabi and a few words from other languages. The distortion is that instead of concluding that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is in Punjabi with use of some words from other languages it has been turned around to minimize Punjabi's role and even that at a specific version like lehndi Punjabi. It has been generalized to over almost the 500 year period that writings in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji encompass.</em></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><em></em><u>I repeat, <strong>first</strong> they will kill the language</u>. I wonder what basis the Punjab was destroyed in the sixties if it was not Punjabi. "Sant Bhasha" province should have been created and recognized as language of Punjab. It would have been much bigger including most of Northern India. When it comes to destroying Sikhism and anything related to Sikhism, Punjabi is recognized but then people will go about saying there is no Punjabi. By the way I forgot that in Pakistan (dominant historic part of Punjabi Punjab) they call it "Sant Bhasha"lol.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><u><strong>Second</strong></u> they will kill history. Check how the role of Sikhs pre-1947 and post 1947 has been marginalized. The thrust is to keep reminding Sikhs about how bad Islam was and is to them and no one else. We all know Islam had no role in destroying or planning to destroy Sikhism in India post 1947. Who had this role!</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><u><strong>Third</strong></u>, the religion is destroyed. Divisions are encouraged, mis-interpretations are encouraged and rewarded, the Dehras are sponsored, the list continues.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">Folks in the above Steps 1 and 2 are visible to have taken place and for all to see who want to see. Of course the standard inferiority complex has been created to go with it, Sikhs did it to themselves. </span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">The onslaught on core institutions and soul of Sikhism writings and wisdom is underway. Many have been converted in so called scholarly approach and secular or humanitarian view of the world. That is Sikhs should act seculalrly and allow themselves to be absorbed in the name of the same without protest.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">When this phase is over secularism would have no meaning as Sikhism would have been destroyed and humanitarian will be as dictated by the pre-dominant religion that absorbs Sikhism. That of course will not be Islam and and I let you to ponder.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">If people can not read and understand Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with assistance on specific words that they are not familiar with from Professor Sahib Singh ji and overall knowing Punjabi, they really need to work on learning Punjabi. Rest are all irrelevant red herrings nice to talk about but of little constructive value to do justice to the gift of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that our Guru ji gave us.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">Take note of other statements to mis-direct through generalizations that certain Guru ji wrote their Bani in Hindi. I am sure this way all will be classified and made disjointed one by one and then there will be effort that not all Guru ji and the other contributors have same message in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This is like dismembering a unified body of very respectful and cohesive work and gift of our Guru ji in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It makes my blood boil when I see all this as it is portrayed and sneaked in here at spn. However, I am just one person with one mind and one opinion. I wish I am proven wrong in all of the above that I have written.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">Sat Sri Akal.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><strong><u>PS</u>:</strong> Suny Press is as follows,</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"><a href="http://www.sunypress.edu/l-18-about.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.sunypress.edu/l-18-about.aspx</a></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">A no name Publisher out of basically no name city, Buffalo New York, out of a basically no name University, as in University of Buffalo.</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy">This is what the intro at the site says about the reference book of Nirmal Dass,</span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span></p><p><span style="color: Navy"></span><table class="oddRow" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" align="left"></p><p></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="showImgBorder" align="left" valign="top" width="76px"><a href="http://www.sunypress.edu/p-3227-songs-of-the-saints-from-the-ad.aspx" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sunypress.edu/images/Product/icon/60207_cov.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></td> <td align="left" valign="top"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td padma_font_family_property="tohama,verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="ProductNameText" align="left" valign="top"><a href="http://www.sunypress.edu/p-3227-songs-of-the-saints-from-the-ad.aspx" target="_blank">Songs of the Saints from the Adi Granth</a> (October 2000) </p><p>Nirmal Dass - Translation and introduction by</p><p></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="maintext" align="left" valign="bottom"></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>An accessible translation of the songs of the saints from the Adi Granth, the Sikh holy book.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><em></em>This complete and accessible translation of the songs of the saints from the Sikh holy book, the Adi Granth, <strong><u>provides access to the hymns written by <span style="font-size: 15px">Hindu and Muslim</span> devotional writers of north India</u></strong>, who flourished from the twelfth to the eighteenth centuries.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">The <u><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">songs</span></strong></u> of the saints hold a unique position in Sikhism in that they provide t......</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambarsaria, post: 176128, member: 14194"] The garbage to support a position is amply written and can be found on the internet. Many a books have been written to mis-direct as well. Let us review one of the references from above, [COLOR=Navy][I]Without knowing the allegiance or intentions of the author, worth noting that Punjabi proper is not even mentioned. I assume he calls all Gurus as Sants (let us mix it up and equalize them down with all wanderers!) and what they spoke was Sant Bhasha. Indeed very remarkable that he claims there was no Punjabi in Punjab just a mish-mash. It is remarkable that one can read Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and understand it fairly well by just knowing Punjabi and a few words from other languages. The distortion is that instead of concluding that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is in Punjabi with use of some words from other languages it has been turned around to minimize Punjabi's role and even that at a specific version like lehndi Punjabi. It has been generalized to over almost the 500 year period that writings in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji encompass. [/I][U]I repeat, [B]first[/B] they will kill the language[/U]. I wonder what basis the Punjab was destroyed in the sixties if it was not Punjabi. "Sant Bhasha" province should have been created and recognized as language of Punjab. It would have been much bigger including most of Northern India. When it comes to destroying Sikhism and anything related to Sikhism, Punjabi is recognized but then people will go about saying there is no Punjabi. By the way I forgot that in Pakistan (dominant historic part of Punjabi Punjab) they call it "Sant Bhasha"lol. [U][B]Second[/B][/U] they will kill history. Check how the role of Sikhs pre-1947 and post 1947 has been marginalized. The thrust is to keep reminding Sikhs about how bad Islam was and is to them and no one else. We all know Islam had no role in destroying or planning to destroy Sikhism in India post 1947. Who had this role! [U][B]Third[/B][/U], the religion is destroyed. Divisions are encouraged, mis-interpretations are encouraged and rewarded, the Dehras are sponsored, the list continues. Folks in the above Steps 1 and 2 are visible to have taken place and for all to see who want to see. Of course the standard inferiority complex has been created to go with it, Sikhs did it to themselves. The onslaught on core institutions and soul of Sikhism writings and wisdom is underway. Many have been converted in so called scholarly approach and secular or humanitarian view of the world. That is Sikhs should act seculalrly and allow themselves to be absorbed in the name of the same without protest. When this phase is over secularism would have no meaning as Sikhism would have been destroyed and humanitarian will be as dictated by the pre-dominant religion that absorbs Sikhism. That of course will not be Islam and and I let you to ponder. If people can not read and understand Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with assistance on specific words that they are not familiar with from Professor Sahib Singh ji and overall knowing Punjabi, they really need to work on learning Punjabi. Rest are all irrelevant red herrings nice to talk about but of little constructive value to do justice to the gift of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that our Guru ji gave us. Take note of other statements to mis-direct through generalizations that certain Guru ji wrote their Bani in Hindi. I am sure this way all will be classified and made disjointed one by one and then there will be effort that not all Guru ji and the other contributors have same message in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This is like dismembering a unified body of very respectful and cohesive work and gift of our Guru ji in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It makes my blood boil when I see all this as it is portrayed and sneaked in here at spn. However, I am just one person with one mind and one opinion. I wish I am proven wrong in all of the above that I have written. Sat Sri Akal. [B][U]PS[/U]:[/B] Suny Press is as follows, [URL]http://www.sunypress.edu/l-18-about.aspx[/URL] A no name Publisher out of basically no name city, Buffalo New York, out of a basically no name University, as in University of Buffalo. This is what the intro at the site says about the reference book of Nirmal Dass, [/COLOR]<table class="oddRow" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" align="left"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="showImgBorder" align="left" valign="top" width="76px">[URL="http://www.sunypress.edu/p-3227-songs-of-the-saints-from-the-ad.aspx"][IMG]http://www.sunypress.edu/images/Product/icon/60207_cov.jpg[/IMG][/URL]</td> <td align="left" valign="top"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td padma_font_family_property="tohama,verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="ProductNameText" align="left" valign="top">[URL="http://www.sunypress.edu/p-3227-songs-of-the-saints-from-the-ad.aspx"]Songs of the Saints from the Adi Granth[/URL] (October 2000) Nirmal Dass - Translation and introduction by </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="maintext" align="left" valign="bottom"> [SIZE=2][I]An accessible translation of the songs of the saints from the Adi Granth, the Sikh holy book. [/I]This complete and accessible translation of the songs of the saints from the Sikh holy book, the Adi Granth, [B][U]provides access to the hymns written by [SIZE=4]Hindu and Muslim[/SIZE] devotional writers of north India[/U][/B], who flourished from the twelfth to the eighteenth centuries. The [U][B][SIZE=3]songs[/SIZE][/B][/U] of the saints hold a unique position in Sikhism in that they provide t...... [/SIZE]</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> [/QUOTE]
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