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<blockquote data-quote="vsgrewal48895" data-source="post: 100283" data-attributes="member: 8024"><p>Dear Teji & Aad Ji,</p><p> </p><p>Guru Nanak and others all left up to Akal Purkh Itself to know when from Nirgun to Sargun It became or when the creation came in to being to be praised by human senses. Here are few references;</p><p> </p><p>Creation is the visual manifestation of “Akal Purkh” as Its Sargun character by showing Its attributes in “Mother Nature”. It is a divine act with further evolution taking over according to various religious, scientific, and philosophical explanations. Guru Nanak answers the questions about the change from Nirgun to Sargun in Ragas Malar, Bilawal, and in his Japji that only Akal Purkh knows the answer to the question;</p><p> </p><p>ਆਪੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ਆਪੁ ਸਾਜਿ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਅੰਬਰੁ ਧਰਤਿ ਵਿਛੋੜਿ ਚੰਦੋਆ ਤਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਵਿਣੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਗਗਨੁ ਰਹਾਇ ਸਬਦੁ ਨੀਸਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਸੂਰਜੁ ਚੰਦੁ ਉਪਾਇ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਮਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਕੀਏ ਰਾਤਿ ਦਿਨੰਤੁ ਚੋਜ ਵਿਡਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਤੀਰਥ ਧਰਮ ਵੀਚਾਰ ਨਾਵਣ ਪੁਰਬਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਤੁਧੁ ਸਰਿ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ਕਿ ਆਖਿ ਵਖਾਣਿਆ॥ ਸਚੈ ਤਖਤਿ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ਹੋਰ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣਿਆ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Āpīnĥai āp sāj āp pacẖẖāṇi▫ā. Ambar ḏẖaraṯ vicẖẖoṛ cẖanḏo▫ā ṯāṇi▫ā. viṇ thamĥā gagan rahā▫e sabaḏ nīsāṇi▫ā. Sūraj cẖanḏ upā▫e joṯ samāṇi▫ā. Kī▫e rāṯ ḏinanṯ cẖoj vidāṇi▫ā. Ŧirath ḏẖaram vīcẖār nāvaṇ purbāṇi▫ā. Ŧuḏẖ sar avar na ko▫e kė ākẖ vakẖāṇi▫ā. Sacẖai ṯakẖaṯ nivās hor āvaṇ jāṇi▫ā.</em> </p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Akal Purkh created It self, and understands Itself.</em></strong> Separating the sky and the earth, It has spread out Its canopy. Without any pillars, It supports the sky, through the insignia of Its Sabd. Creating the sun and the moon, It infused Its Light into them. It created the night and the day; wondrous are Its miraculous plays. It created the sacred shrines of pilgrimage, where people contemplate righteousness, and take cleansing baths on special occasions. There is no other equal to You; how can we speak and describe you? You are seated on the throne of Truth; all others come and go. -----Guru Nanak, Raag Malar, AGGS, Page, 1279</p><p> </p><p>ਆਪੇ ਸਚੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਰ ਜੋੜਿ ॥ਅੰਡਜ ਫੋੜਿ ਜੋੜਿ ਵਿਛੋੜਿ ॥ਧਰਤਿ ਅਕਾਸੁ ਕੀਏ ਬੈਸਣ ਕਉ ਥਾਉ ॥ਰਾਤਿ ਦਿਨੰਤੁ ਕੀਏ ਭਉ ਭਾਉ ॥ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖਣਹਾਰਾ ॥ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰਾ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Āpė sacẖ kī¬ā kar joṛ. Andaj foṛ joṛ vicẖẖoṛ. Ḏẖaraṯ akās kī¬ė baisaṇ ka¬o thā¬o. Rāṯ ḏinanṯ kī¬ė bẖa¬o bẖā¬o. Jin kī¬ė kar vėkẖaṇhārā. Avar na ḏūjā sirjaṇhārā.</em></p><p> </p><p>Akal Purkh Itself created the universe, joining the elements together. Breaking the cosmic egg, It united, and separated. Then made the earth and the sky into places to live, and created day and night, fear and love. The One, who created the Creation, also watches over it. There is no other Creator than Akal Purkh. -----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 839 </p><p> </p><p>ਆਪੇ ਸਭ ਘਟ ਅੰਦਰੇ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਬਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਗੁਪਤੁ ਵਰਤਦਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਜਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਜੁਗ ਛਤੀਹ ਗੁਬਾਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਰਤਿਆ ਸੁੰਨਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਓਥੈ ਵੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਨ ਸਾਸਤਾ ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਰਹਰਿ ॥ ਬੈਠਾ ਤਾੜੀ ਲਾਇ ਆਪਿ ਸਭ ਦੂ ਹੀ ਬਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਆਪਣੀ ਮਿਤਿ ਆਪਿ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਗਉਹਰੁ ॥੧੮॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Āpe sabẖ gẖat anḏre āpe hī bāhar. Āpe gupaṯ varaṯḏā āpe hī jāhar. Jug cẖẖaṯīh gubār kar varṯi▫ā sunnāhar. Othai veḏ purān na sāsṯā āpe har narhar. Baiṯẖā ṯāṛī lā▫e āp sabẖ ḏū hī bāhar. Āpṇī miṯ āp jāṇḏā āpe hī ga▫uhar. ||18||</em></p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Akal Purkh Itself is deep within all hearts, and is outside as well; prevailing unmanifest, and is manifest.</em></strong> For thirty-six ages, He created the darkness, abiding in the void. There were no Vedas, Puraanas or Shaastras there; only the Akal Purkh Itself existed sitting in the absolute trance, withdrawn from everything. Only It Itself knows Its state; and is the unfathomable ocean. ||18|| -----Guru Amardas, Bihagra Ki Var, AGGS, Page, 555-17</p><p> </p><p>Guru Nanak questions and replies in Japji about creation;</p><p> </p><p>ਕਵਣੁ ਸੁ ਵੇਲਾ ਵਖਤੁ ਕਵਣੁ ਕਵਣ ਥਿਤਿ ਕਵਣੁ ਵਾਰੁ ॥ਕਵਣਿ ਸਿ ਰੁਤੀ ਮਾਹੁ ਕਵਣੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਹੋਆ ਆਕਾਰੁ ॥ਵੇਲ ਨ ਪਾਈਆ ਪੰਡਤੀ ਜਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਲੇਖੁ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ॥ਵਖਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ਕਾਦੀਆ ਜਿ ਲਿਖਨਿ ਲੇਖੁ ਕੁਰਾਣੁ ॥ਥਿਤਿ ਵਾਰੁ ਨਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਾਣੈ ਰੁਤਿ ਮਾਹੁ ਨਾ ਕੋਈ ॥ਜਾ ਕਰਤਾ ਸਿਰਠੀ ਕਉ ਸਾਜੇ ਆਪੇ ਜਾਣੈ ਸੋਈ ॥ਕਿਵ ਕਰਿ ਆਖਾ ਕਿਵ ਸਾਲਾਹੀ ਕਿਉ ਵਰਨੀ ਕਿਵ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ਨਾਨਕ ਆਖਣਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਆਖੈ ਇਕ ਦੂ ਇਕੁ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥ਵਡਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਵਡੀ ਨਾਈ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਆਪੌ ਜਾਣੈ ਅਗੈ ਗਇਆ ਨ ਸੋਹੈ ॥ਪਾਤਾਲਾ ਪਾਤਾਲ ਲਖ ਆਗਾਸਾ ਆਗਾਸ ॥ਓੜਕ ਓੜਕ ਭਾਲਿ ਥਕੇ ਵੇਦ ਕਹਨਿ ਇਕ ਵਾਤ ॥ਸਹਸ ਅਠਾਰਹ ਕਹਨਿ ਕਤੇਬਾ ਅਸੁਲੂ ਇਕੁ ਧਾਤੁ ॥ਲੇਖਾ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਲਿਖੀਐ ਲੇਖੈ ਹੋਇ ਵਿਣਾਸੁ ॥ਨਾਨਕ ਵਡਾ ਆਖੀਐ ਆਪੇ ਜਾਣੈ ਆਪੁ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Kavaṇ so vėlā vakẖaṯ kavaṇ kavaṇ thiṯ kavaṇ vār. Kavaṇ se ruṯī māhu kavaṇ jiṯ ho¬ā ākār. vėl na pā¬ī¬ā pandṯī je hovai lėkẖ purāṇ. vakẖaṯ na pā¬i¬o kāḏī¬ā je likẖan lėkẖ kurāṇ. Thiṯ vār nā jogī jāṇai ruṯ māhu nā ko¬ī. Jā karṯā sirṯẖī ka¬o sājė āpė jāṇai so¬ī. Kiv kar ākẖā kiv sālāhī ki¬o varnī kiv jāṇā. Nānak ākẖaṇ sabẖ ko ākẖai ik ḏū ik si¬āṇā. vadā sāhib vadī nā¬ī kīṯā jā kā hovai. Nānak jė ko āpou jāṇai agai ga¬i¬ā na sohai. Pāṯālā pāṯāl lakẖ āgāsā āgās. Oṛak oṛak bẖāl thakė vėḏ kahan ik vāṯ. Sahas aṯẖārah kahan kaṯėbā asulū ik ḏẖāṯ. Lėkẖā ho¬ė ṯa likī¬ai lėkẖai ho¬ė viṇās. Nānak vadā ākẖī¬ai āpė jāṇai āp.</em></p><p> </p><p>What was that time, and what was that moment? What was that day, and what was that date? What was that season, and what was that month, when the Universe was created? The Pundits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, even if it is written in the Puraanas. That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran. The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><em>The Creator who created this creation (Akal Purkh) Itself knows. How can we speak of It?</em></strong> </p><p> </p><p>How can we praise It? How can we describe It? How can we know It? O, Nanak, everyone speaks of God, each one wiser than the rest. Great is the Master, Great is Its Name. Whatever happens is according to Its Will. O Nanak, one who claims to know everything shall not be decorated in the world hereafter. There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above. The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary. The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe. If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it. O Nanak, call Akal Purkh Great! It Itself knows Itself. -----Guru Nanak, Japji, AGGS, Page, 4 & 5</p><p> </p><p>He further goes on in Japji;</p><p> </p><p>The praiser’s praise the God, but they do not obtain intuitive understanding the streams and rivers flowing into the ocean do not know its vastness. Even kings and emperors, with mountains of property and oceans of wealth are not even equal to an ant, which does not forget God. Endless are Its Praises; endless are those who speak them. Endless are Its Actions, endless are Its Gifts. Endless is Its Vision, endless is Its Hearing. Its limits cannot be perceived. What is the Mystery of Its Mind? Its limits of the created universe cannot be perceived. Its limits here and beyond cannot be perceived. Many struggle to know Its limits, but Its limits cannot be found. No one can know these limits. The more you say about them, the more there still remains to be said. Great is the Master; High is Its Heavenly Home. Highest of the High, above all is Its Name. Only one as Great and as High as God can know Its Lofty and Exalted State<strong><em>. </em></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Only It Itself is that Great. It Itself knows Itself.</em></strong> </p><p> </p><p>O, Nanak, by Its Glance of Grace, It bestows Its Blessings. Its Blessings are so abundant that there can be no written account of them. The Great Giver does not hold back anything. There are so many great, heroic warriors begging at the Door of the Infinite God. So many contemplate and dwell upon It, that they cannot be counted. So many wastes away to death engaged in corruption. So many take and take again, and then deny receiving. So many foolish consumers keep on consuming and so many endure distress, deprivation and constant abuse. Even these are Your Gifts, O Great Giver! Liberation from bondage comes only by Your Will. No one else has any say in this. If some fool should presume to say that he does, He shall learn, and feel the effects of his folly. It Itself knows, and Itself gives. Few, very few are those who acknowledge this. One who is blessed to sing the Praises of the Akal Purkh? O, Nanak is the king of kings. </p><p> </p><p>Cordially,</p><p> </p><p>Virinder</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vsgrewal48895, post: 100283, member: 8024"] Dear Teji & Aad Ji, Guru Nanak and others all left up to Akal Purkh Itself to know when from Nirgun to Sargun It became or when the creation came in to being to be praised by human senses. Here are few references; Creation is the visual manifestation of “Akal Purkh” as Its Sargun character by showing Its attributes in “Mother Nature”. It is a divine act with further evolution taking over according to various religious, scientific, and philosophical explanations. Guru Nanak answers the questions about the change from Nirgun to Sargun in Ragas Malar, Bilawal, and in his Japji that only Akal Purkh knows the answer to the question; ਆਪੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ਆਪੁ ਸਾਜਿ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਅੰਬਰੁ ਧਰਤਿ ਵਿਛੋੜਿ ਚੰਦੋਆ ਤਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਵਿਣੁ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਗਗਨੁ ਰਹਾਇ ਸਬਦੁ ਨੀਸਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਸੂਰਜੁ ਚੰਦੁ ਉਪਾਇ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਮਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਕੀਏ ਰਾਤਿ ਦਿਨੰਤੁ ਚੋਜ ਵਿਡਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਤੀਰਥ ਧਰਮ ਵੀਚਾਰ ਨਾਵਣ ਪੁਰਬਾਣਿਆ ॥ ਤੁਧੁ ਸਰਿ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ਕਿ ਆਖਿ ਵਖਾਣਿਆ॥ ਸਚੈ ਤਖਤਿ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ਹੋਰ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣਿਆ ॥ [I]Āpīnĥai āp sāj āp pacẖẖāṇi▫ā. Ambar ḏẖaraṯ vicẖẖoṛ cẖanḏo▫ā ṯāṇi▫ā. viṇ thamĥā gagan rahā▫e sabaḏ nīsāṇi▫ā. Sūraj cẖanḏ upā▫e joṯ samāṇi▫ā. Kī▫e rāṯ ḏinanṯ cẖoj vidāṇi▫ā. Ŧirath ḏẖaram vīcẖār nāvaṇ purbāṇi▫ā. Ŧuḏẖ sar avar na ko▫e kė ākẖ vakẖāṇi▫ā. Sacẖai ṯakẖaṯ nivās hor āvaṇ jāṇi▫ā.[/I] [B][I]Akal Purkh created It self, and understands Itself.[/I][/B] Separating the sky and the earth, It has spread out Its canopy. Without any pillars, It supports the sky, through the insignia of Its Sabd. Creating the sun and the moon, It infused Its Light into them. It created the night and the day; wondrous are Its miraculous plays. It created the sacred shrines of pilgrimage, where people contemplate righteousness, and take cleansing baths on special occasions. There is no other equal to You; how can we speak and describe you? You are seated on the throne of Truth; all others come and go. -----Guru Nanak, Raag Malar, AGGS, Page, 1279 ਆਪੇ ਸਚੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਰ ਜੋੜਿ ॥ਅੰਡਜ ਫੋੜਿ ਜੋੜਿ ਵਿਛੋੜਿ ॥ਧਰਤਿ ਅਕਾਸੁ ਕੀਏ ਬੈਸਣ ਕਉ ਥਾਉ ॥ਰਾਤਿ ਦਿਨੰਤੁ ਕੀਏ ਭਉ ਭਾਉ ॥ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖਣਹਾਰਾ ॥ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰਾ ॥ [I]Āpė sacẖ kī¬ā kar joṛ. Andaj foṛ joṛ vicẖẖoṛ. Ḏẖaraṯ akās kī¬ė baisaṇ ka¬o thā¬o. Rāṯ ḏinanṯ kī¬ė bẖa¬o bẖā¬o. Jin kī¬ė kar vėkẖaṇhārā. Avar na ḏūjā sirjaṇhārā.[/I] Akal Purkh Itself created the universe, joining the elements together. Breaking the cosmic egg, It united, and separated. Then made the earth and the sky into places to live, and created day and night, fear and love. The One, who created the Creation, also watches over it. There is no other Creator than Akal Purkh. -----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 839 ਆਪੇ ਸਭ ਘਟ ਅੰਦਰੇ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਬਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਗੁਪਤੁ ਵਰਤਦਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਜਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਜੁਗ ਛਤੀਹ ਗੁਬਾਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਰਤਿਆ ਸੁੰਨਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਓਥੈ ਵੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਨ ਸਾਸਤਾ ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਰਹਰਿ ॥ ਬੈਠਾ ਤਾੜੀ ਲਾਇ ਆਪਿ ਸਭ ਦੂ ਹੀ ਬਾਹਰਿ ॥ ਆਪਣੀ ਮਿਤਿ ਆਪਿ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਗਉਹਰੁ ॥੧੮॥ [I]Āpe sabẖ gẖat anḏre āpe hī bāhar. Āpe gupaṯ varaṯḏā āpe hī jāhar. Jug cẖẖaṯīh gubār kar varṯi▫ā sunnāhar. Othai veḏ purān na sāsṯā āpe har narhar. Baiṯẖā ṯāṛī lā▫e āp sabẖ ḏū hī bāhar. Āpṇī miṯ āp jāṇḏā āpe hī ga▫uhar. ||18||[/I] [B][I]Akal Purkh Itself is deep within all hearts, and is outside as well; prevailing unmanifest, and is manifest.[/I][/B] For thirty-six ages, He created the darkness, abiding in the void. There were no Vedas, Puraanas or Shaastras there; only the Akal Purkh Itself existed sitting in the absolute trance, withdrawn from everything. Only It Itself knows Its state; and is the unfathomable ocean. ||18|| -----Guru Amardas, Bihagra Ki Var, AGGS, Page, 555-17 Guru Nanak questions and replies in Japji about creation; ਕਵਣੁ ਸੁ ਵੇਲਾ ਵਖਤੁ ਕਵਣੁ ਕਵਣ ਥਿਤਿ ਕਵਣੁ ਵਾਰੁ ॥ਕਵਣਿ ਸਿ ਰੁਤੀ ਮਾਹੁ ਕਵਣੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਹੋਆ ਆਕਾਰੁ ॥ਵੇਲ ਨ ਪਾਈਆ ਪੰਡਤੀ ਜਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਲੇਖੁ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ॥ਵਖਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ਕਾਦੀਆ ਜਿ ਲਿਖਨਿ ਲੇਖੁ ਕੁਰਾਣੁ ॥ਥਿਤਿ ਵਾਰੁ ਨਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਾਣੈ ਰੁਤਿ ਮਾਹੁ ਨਾ ਕੋਈ ॥ਜਾ ਕਰਤਾ ਸਿਰਠੀ ਕਉ ਸਾਜੇ ਆਪੇ ਜਾਣੈ ਸੋਈ ॥ਕਿਵ ਕਰਿ ਆਖਾ ਕਿਵ ਸਾਲਾਹੀ ਕਿਉ ਵਰਨੀ ਕਿਵ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ਨਾਨਕ ਆਖਣਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਆਖੈ ਇਕ ਦੂ ਇਕੁ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥ਵਡਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਵਡੀ ਨਾਈ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਆਪੌ ਜਾਣੈ ਅਗੈ ਗਇਆ ਨ ਸੋਹੈ ॥ਪਾਤਾਲਾ ਪਾਤਾਲ ਲਖ ਆਗਾਸਾ ਆਗਾਸ ॥ਓੜਕ ਓੜਕ ਭਾਲਿ ਥਕੇ ਵੇਦ ਕਹਨਿ ਇਕ ਵਾਤ ॥ਸਹਸ ਅਠਾਰਹ ਕਹਨਿ ਕਤੇਬਾ ਅਸੁਲੂ ਇਕੁ ਧਾਤੁ ॥ਲੇਖਾ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਲਿਖੀਐ ਲੇਖੈ ਹੋਇ ਵਿਣਾਸੁ ॥ਨਾਨਕ ਵਡਾ ਆਖੀਐ ਆਪੇ ਜਾਣੈ ਆਪੁ ॥ [I]Kavaṇ so vėlā vakẖaṯ kavaṇ kavaṇ thiṯ kavaṇ vār. Kavaṇ se ruṯī māhu kavaṇ jiṯ ho¬ā ākār. vėl na pā¬ī¬ā pandṯī je hovai lėkẖ purāṇ. vakẖaṯ na pā¬i¬o kāḏī¬ā je likẖan lėkẖ kurāṇ. Thiṯ vār nā jogī jāṇai ruṯ māhu nā ko¬ī. Jā karṯā sirṯẖī ka¬o sājė āpė jāṇai so¬ī. Kiv kar ākẖā kiv sālāhī ki¬o varnī kiv jāṇā. Nānak ākẖaṇ sabẖ ko ākẖai ik ḏū ik si¬āṇā. vadā sāhib vadī nā¬ī kīṯā jā kā hovai. Nānak jė ko āpou jāṇai agai ga¬i¬ā na sohai. Pāṯālā pāṯāl lakẖ āgāsā āgās. Oṛak oṛak bẖāl thakė vėḏ kahan ik vāṯ. Sahas aṯẖārah kahan kaṯėbā asulū ik ḏẖāṯ. Lėkẖā ho¬ė ṯa likī¬ai lėkẖai ho¬ė viṇās. Nānak vadā ākẖī¬ai āpė jāṇai āp.[/I] What was that time, and what was that moment? What was that day, and what was that date? What was that season, and what was that month, when the Universe was created? The Pundits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, even if it is written in the Puraanas. That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran. The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season. [B][I]The Creator who created this creation (Akal Purkh) Itself knows. How can we speak of It?[/I][/B] How can we praise It? How can we describe It? How can we know It? O, Nanak, everyone speaks of God, each one wiser than the rest. Great is the Master, Great is Its Name. Whatever happens is according to Its Will. O Nanak, one who claims to know everything shall not be decorated in the world hereafter. There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above. The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary. The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe. If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it. O Nanak, call Akal Purkh Great! It Itself knows Itself. -----Guru Nanak, Japji, AGGS, Page, 4 & 5 He further goes on in Japji; The praiser’s praise the God, but they do not obtain intuitive understanding the streams and rivers flowing into the ocean do not know its vastness. Even kings and emperors, with mountains of property and oceans of wealth are not even equal to an ant, which does not forget God. Endless are Its Praises; endless are those who speak them. Endless are Its Actions, endless are Its Gifts. Endless is Its Vision, endless is Its Hearing. Its limits cannot be perceived. What is the Mystery of Its Mind? Its limits of the created universe cannot be perceived. Its limits here and beyond cannot be perceived. Many struggle to know Its limits, but Its limits cannot be found. No one can know these limits. The more you say about them, the more there still remains to be said. Great is the Master; High is Its Heavenly Home. Highest of the High, above all is Its Name. Only one as Great and as High as God can know Its Lofty and Exalted State[B][I]. [/I][/B] [B][/B] [B][I]Only It Itself is that Great. It Itself knows Itself.[/I][/B] O, Nanak, by Its Glance of Grace, It bestows Its Blessings. Its Blessings are so abundant that there can be no written account of them. The Great Giver does not hold back anything. There are so many great, heroic warriors begging at the Door of the Infinite God. So many contemplate and dwell upon It, that they cannot be counted. So many wastes away to death engaged in corruption. So many take and take again, and then deny receiving. So many foolish consumers keep on consuming and so many endure distress, deprivation and constant abuse. Even these are Your Gifts, O Great Giver! Liberation from bondage comes only by Your Will. No one else has any say in this. If some fool should presume to say that he does, He shall learn, and feel the effects of his folly. It Itself knows, and Itself gives. Few, very few are those who acknowledge this. One who is blessed to sing the Praises of the Akal Purkh? O, Nanak is the king of kings. Cordially, Virinder [/QUOTE]
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