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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Harry Haller" data-source="post: 180981" data-attributes="member: 14641"><p>Welcome to the forum Khalsasikhiji, </p><p></p><p>In the search for the truth, I personally shy away from Abrahamic leanings and rhetoric, much of what you posted is acceptable to many Sikhs, I hope you do not mind me picking it apart for the sake of learning.</p><p></p><p> I do not find Sikhi scary or intimidating, rather I find it full of love, wisdom, it is a template on how to live a happy fulfilled life, it is interesting and opens your mind, </p><p></p><p>There is no reward for good deeds in my view, the doing of the deed is the only reward one should seek, and the fact that such deed is in line with the truth. The reward is knowing that you emulate Creator and the essence of Creator, which in turn means you feed the truth within you.</p><p></p><p> this is not a game, there are very real consequences to our actions, for us, and for the people round us, it is not a question of keeping a score or a record, do a good deed, and then forget about it and move on, until the good deeds become a way of life, become natural, become instinct, it is not a case of having a multitude of good deeds as a credit and then allowing yourself to do a bad deed.</p><p></p><p>I find this incredibly Abrahamic, God loves you, Jesus loves you, Waheguru loves you, it is at odds with my own thoughts in that Creator makes the rules, informs you of the rules, and any love is given to you by Creation, it is not so much a personal relationship with 'God' as a personal relationship with Creation. In my view Creator has no interest in me, however, the more I emulate Creator the more my connection is supreme. This does not involve praising Creator or doing things for Creator, instead praise Creation, do more for Creation.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry but I disagree, such conditioning is the reason we have so many Sikh robots, all doing path, singing shabads, reading Bani, what fun, but where is the understanding, where is the wisdom, Bani has to be lived not read. We should ask ourselves 'did I emulate Creator today, am I better connected. In so far as reaching Waheguru, you make it sound like a game, do this, do that, find Waheguru, its like the search for the Holy Grail, we find Waheguru by thinking, talking and acting in line with Bani.</p><p></p><p>Or you could just walk down the street and help those that need help, feed those that need feeding, comfort those in need of comfort. </p><p></p><p>None of us will answer to Dharam Raj, he is a Vedic God and has no place in Sikhism other than as an assistance to people of the time, </p><p></p><p>This is Vedicised Abrahamic Sikhism, this is not the Sikhism I believe in or live my life by</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harry Haller, post: 180981, member: 14641"] Welcome to the forum Khalsasikhiji, In the search for the truth, I personally shy away from Abrahamic leanings and rhetoric, much of what you posted is acceptable to many Sikhs, I hope you do not mind me picking it apart for the sake of learning. I do not find Sikhi scary or intimidating, rather I find it full of love, wisdom, it is a template on how to live a happy fulfilled life, it is interesting and opens your mind, There is no reward for good deeds in my view, the doing of the deed is the only reward one should seek, and the fact that such deed is in line with the truth. The reward is knowing that you emulate Creator and the essence of Creator, which in turn means you feed the truth within you. this is not a game, there are very real consequences to our actions, for us, and for the people round us, it is not a question of keeping a score or a record, do a good deed, and then forget about it and move on, until the good deeds become a way of life, become natural, become instinct, it is not a case of having a multitude of good deeds as a credit and then allowing yourself to do a bad deed. I find this incredibly Abrahamic, God loves you, Jesus loves you, Waheguru loves you, it is at odds with my own thoughts in that Creator makes the rules, informs you of the rules, and any love is given to you by Creation, it is not so much a personal relationship with 'God' as a personal relationship with Creation. In my view Creator has no interest in me, however, the more I emulate Creator the more my connection is supreme. This does not involve praising Creator or doing things for Creator, instead praise Creation, do more for Creation. I am sorry but I disagree, such conditioning is the reason we have so many Sikh robots, all doing path, singing shabads, reading Bani, what fun, but where is the understanding, where is the wisdom, Bani has to be lived not read. We should ask ourselves 'did I emulate Creator today, am I better connected. In so far as reaching Waheguru, you make it sound like a game, do this, do that, find Waheguru, its like the search for the Holy Grail, we find Waheguru by thinking, talking and acting in line with Bani. Or you could just walk down the street and help those that need help, feed those that need feeding, comfort those in need of comfort. None of us will answer to Dharam Raj, he is a Vedic God and has no place in Sikhism other than as an assistance to people of the time, This is Vedicised Abrahamic Sikhism, this is not the Sikhism I believe in or live my life by [/QUOTE]
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