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<blockquote data-quote="Chaan Pardesi" data-source="post: 176472" data-attributes="member: 7047"><p>FACE BOOK Malaya Samachar EDITORIAL:30th of November.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Chan Pardesi ji Please give us a url or link to the original so we do not tempt charges of plagiarism. It will not matter if someone does not have a Facebook account. They can read the article here, and Facebook will still get the credits. Thanks, spnadmin</span></p><p></p><p>The issues below are related mainly to the Sikhs in Malaysia, but we </p><p></p><p>believe Sikh communities across the globe probably face similar </p><p></p><p>challenges and destructive actions among the youth.</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>Recently, one of our readers, Sr Veerin Singh asked a very pertinent </p><p></p><p>question,He argued that we are a small community.Many of our youth </p><p></p><p>are indulging in soul, mental and body destroying activities.Many take </p><p></p><p>to smoking, drugs and alcohol.They go out and indulge into immoral </p><p></p><p>activities like night clubs, prostitution visiting and binge parties, </p><p></p><p>where taking body destructing drugs are the norm and buzz activities.</p><p></p><p>Many then get involved in fights,accidents and gang warfare.Some go </p><p></p><p>home, beat up the children.Beat up the wife, give grieve and make grave </p><p></p><p>threats against aged parents and other relatives.They destruct those </p><p></p><p>around them with their own dysfunctional lives and activities.They </p><p></p><p>influence others, abuse others and abuse themselves.The abuse just </p><p></p><p>does not simply effects them individually but whole extended families </p><p></p><p>and communities.Sometimes their bad and negative actions affect the </p><p></p><p>local Gurduaras as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When faced with no money to finance their negatives habits and </p><p></p><p>actions, they resort to criminal activities first on a small scale than </p><p></p><p>it grows wider.They steal from parents the meagre earnings or </p><p></p><p>savings, they pawn the poor wife's little jewellary</p><p></p><p>WE cannot disagree at all with this is happening.Though Veerin Singh did not use as </p><p></p><p>many words, his message was understood and appreciated.The gist of his </p><p></p><p>plea and argument was understood and well received by the three member </p><p></p><p>editorial panel and two adminstrators.There a lot of todays evil truth </p><p></p><p>in what he spoke about and it certainly is a very grave issue that </p><p></p><p>should concern the whole community , rising above any factional, </p><p></p><p>jathebandi,and sikh philosophical views and divisions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>His question was:Is it not better these youth go to ANY Naam Simran </p><p></p><p>group, Jatha or Gurduara and get involed in proactive activities and </p><p></p><p>actions and learn about Sikhi and God, than dying out on the roads, and </p><p></p><p>life of destruction.</p><p></p><p>Again, we CANNOT disagree at all with him in principle and as short </p><p></p><p>term solution. given our history.We believe it is better than the </p><p></p><p>scenario we, on his prompt, have outlined in the first three </p><p></p><p>paragraphs of this editorial.</p><p></p><p>WE agree,It is better the youth get involved in Naam Simran, either </p><p></p><p>through simple Gurduara and sadh sangat, or through facilitated groups </p><p></p><p>by Sikh learned, or through the jathas that claim Sikhi persuasion </p><p></p><p>openly.IT will save many lives and families from destruction and death </p><p></p><p>and pain.No doubt about that.</p><p></p><p>But, we have a question for Veerin Singh JI, perhaps he can help find a </p><p></p><p>solution too.If we look back in Sikh history, but as history requires a </p><p></p><p>lot of time and we dont have that, so we will skim through quickly, </p><p></p><p>Sikh religion is an all compassing religion.It continues to be even </p><p></p><p>today through a clearly defined parameter .The proof in the pudding can </p><p></p><p>be seen that it welcomes all to its Gurduaras.It encompases all types </p><p></p><p>who call themselves Sikhs.It welcomes the Khalsa, Gursikh, Sikh, Patit </p><p></p><p>Sikhs, Sehajdhari Sikhs, even the hinud groups who profess Sikh </p><p></p><p>religion and never take the amritpaan.Many Muslims too revere The Sikh </p><p></p><p>gurus and parts of Sikh religion if not the whole.In principle it is a </p><p></p><p>very inclusive religion, though it has very clearly defined pillars of </p><p></p><p>the faith that can never be questioned nor shaken off.These are Kirrt </p><p></p><p>Kamaai, Wand Shakna, Naam Japna,through guidance Guruship of the Guru </p><p></p><p>Granth Sahjib; and work to lead the life of sant sipahi-khalsa in karni </p><p></p><p>and kathni [in practice & deeds].Included in this core principles is </p><p></p><p>the issue of identity and service with humilty to humanity.Period.No </p><p></p><p>two way questions about this.</p><p></p><p>Sikh history accepted all the above groups and individuals as part of </p><p></p><p>its domain.Sehadharis came from Sind and other provinces, Nirmala, and </p><p></p><p>Udasi,patits and Sikhs and Gursikhs and and hindus who professsed to be </p><p></p><p>Sikhs were an inclusisve entity.But whta then hapapned these various </p><p></p><p>groups started to enforce and create their versions of practices, some </p><p></p><p>of which were totally alien to Gurbani.Others like Udasi and Nirmalas </p><p></p><p>seeing that money comes when brahmin type practices are intoruduced, </p><p></p><p>began their own rituals, that were never part of Gurbani.These groups </p><p></p><p>took over main historical Gurduaras , and also introduced statute </p><p></p><p>worship.Even Harmander Sahib had hindu devtas lined up everyhwere, </p><p></p><p>and these were ONLY removed around 1930s.</p><p></p><p>Because suddenly it dawned upon caring Sikh intellectuals that Sikhi </p><p></p><p>was being erased slowly and polluted through shadowing means by </p><p></p><p>nefarious individuals with nefarious agendas.The mahant of Nankana </p><p></p><p>Sahib along with many others elsewhere wanted to ensure the Sikh </p><p></p><p>Gurduaras remain their personal domain and wealth.Thus these educated sikhs felt there was a need </p><p></p><p>for Singh sahba Movement, a SRM to codify the SIKH practices based upon </p><p></p><p>Gurbani.Thus many people became aware that not all groups were doing </p><p></p><p>it rightly, many had their personal agendas in brainswashing people </p><p></p><p>with little things and subtle changes to Gurbani.That was the basis </p><p></p><p>small groups were rejected and total Panthic agenda was delivered, </p><p></p><p>which some even today without evidence claim was only a draft, because </p><p></p><p>they have probably attended one such small group and been brainwashed </p><p></p><p>into rejecting total Sikh panthic Unity agenda, that took almost 18 </p><p></p><p>years based upon GURBANI,Sikh historical facts and factual sikh history </p><p></p><p>and establsished precedents to conclude and finalised.</p><p></p><p>So ask yourslves, how can such small groups that came about years later </p><p></p><p>claim to have the original practices and knowledges, often based upon </p><p></p><p>the heresay of their group leader, who has probaly died many years </p><p></p><p>before.The Punjab of 1930/40s and 50s may accept this utter nonsense claims , as people were not </p><p></p><p>educated.But with education today, these people may still attempt to </p><p></p><p>feed unsupported lies as their facts, is bound to be questioned by </p><p></p><p>those who can reason, but it is followed blindly by those who have no </p><p></p><p>capacity to reason.That is the simple defining line.</p><p></p><p>Elsewhere little men 'ambitious'with personal grandoise minds ; men </p><p></p><p>with little education started off their own deras.Some stole names of </p><p></p><p>historical deras and started claiming ownership and originality.One </p><p></p><p>like the Jatha Chowk Mehta in Amritsar, 250 miles away from Damdama </p><p></p><p>Sahib began claiming to be damdami.Another like the AKJ, who only </p><p></p><p>emerged after the death of Bhai Randhir Singh ji in about 1943, now </p><p></p><p>claim their maryada is original from the Gurus.Then we have numerous </p><p></p><p>others claiming all sorts by mere word of mouth that they dispense to </p><p></p><p>those that visit them and soon whole families , villages and towns are </p><p></p><p>carrying this word of mouth around and began believing the false to be </p><p></p><p>truth!It is said if one lies enough times, people will start believing </p><p></p><p>the lies to be truth!THIS IS EXACTLY THAT HASD HAPPENED WITH SIKHS.AT </p><p></p><p>that stage the SIKH population was largely uneducated and all </p><p></p><p>information was passed through word of mouth or through village </p><p></p><p>gurduaras or the little schools attached to these Gurduaras.Many had </p><p></p><p>perhaps read the Guru Granth sahib, and could even recite verbally, </p><p></p><p>but what they had learnt was what they were told.Their education was </p><p></p><p>not based upon explorative mind and logical questioning and </p><p></p><p>understanding.When such types are confronted and asked to explain, they </p><p></p><p>not only cannot epxlain but they get angry and resort to gutter </p><p></p><p>language.Ifthey answer at all; they say who are we to question the Gurus?</p><p></p><p>Questioning the existence of a jatha 250 miles away from Damdama sahib </p><p></p><p>claiming the title damdami is hardly questioning the GURU JI?or can </p><p></p><p>these people not understand the language and words?We have not come </p><p></p><p>across anyone who has questioned anything from the Guru Ji, Guru Granth </p><p></p><p>sahib.</p><p></p><p>When they are asked how did AKJ claim authority over the rest of the </p><p></p><p>panth, when it only emerged in 1943, they say it was Bhai Randhir Singh </p><p></p><p>ji who says so.But Bhai Randhir Singh never said he had any authority </p><p></p><p>OVER the panth anywhere.He followed the sikhya of Guru Granth sahib.He was not a Guru.The </p><p></p><p>panth started in 1469, [or when Guru Nanak ji was 30],Bhai Randhir </p><p></p><p>Singh preached ONLY Gurbani all his life[between 1904 and 1943] and </p><p></p><p>dedicated his life to fight against colonialism.He never started any AKJ </p><p></p><p>jatha.So where did this JATHA come from?Some ambitious followers </p><p></p><p>decided to sat it up, as the name of Bhai Randhir Singh would offer </p><p></p><p>him/them the personal fame they were/was after ...How does that then make </p><p></p><p>it superior to the Sikh Panth that already existed since 1469?There </p><p></p><p>are many such stories.They dont have answers and dont like being questioned.</p><p></p><p>Locally we see this with Baba Sohan Singh Ji.He dedicated his life to </p><p></p><p>sewa and Sikhi from Guru Granth sahib.He was a very simple man who was </p><p></p><p>staunch believer of Gurbani .Anyone who met him , was given the support </p><p></p><p>to understand Gurbani and nothing BUT GURBANI.Gurbani and Gurbani.But </p><p></p><p>these days many are attaching miracles, pilgramges etc ect and what </p><p></p><p>goes ,on which we rather not comment upon.</p><p></p><p>However, we hope no Sikh will indulge in any vices that destroys </p><p></p><p>her/him, his/her relatives,community and town.To fight these vices </p><p></p><p>from destroying our youth, we may not need any religious Sikh group, we </p><p></p><p>just need lots of education,enlightenment and awareness through a joint </p><p></p><p>community effort collected solely for this purpose alone.History tells </p><p></p><p>us involving the sikh religious groups may just carry on promoting </p><p></p><p>their own agendas under guise of Sikhi, youth and welfare of the </p><p></p><p>community and result in further continued divisions.We recognise that </p><p></p><p>some do not fall within this category.But lately largely very fanatical </p><p></p><p>elements have emerged.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With such issues having been happened and undermined the Sikhs and </p><p></p><p>religion, how does Sr Veerin Singh proposes we address the issues </p><p></p><p>without diluting the Sikh religion and its unique identity.Because the </p><p></p><p>groups who point blank refuse to adopt the total Sikh Unity agenda are </p><p></p><p>bound to cause more issues and problems and divisions, if not through </p><p></p><p>accidents than fights and quarrels.Basically,sadly Sr Veerin Singh in </p><p></p><p>this un-ideal world, we are caught between the deep blue sea and the </p><p></p><p>devil.</p><p></p><p>Only Sache Paatshah Guru Ji may be able to change our destiny, despite </p><p></p><p>all our anger and frustration.But like Guru Gobind Singh says, grant me </p><p></p><p>thy boon, so I will never refrain from fighting the righteous , is the </p><p></p><p>only hope we can carry on with and support all positive actions to </p><p></p><p>unite, save the youth and the identity and sikh religion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaan Pardesi, post: 176472, member: 7047"] FACE BOOK Malaya Samachar EDITORIAL:30th of November. [COLOR=Red]Chan Pardesi ji Please give us a url or link to the original so we do not tempt charges of plagiarism. It will not matter if someone does not have a Facebook account. They can read the article here, and Facebook will still get the credits. Thanks, spnadmin[/COLOR] The issues below are related mainly to the Sikhs in Malaysia, but we believe Sikh communities across the globe probably face similar challenges and destructive actions among the youth. ... Recently, one of our readers, Sr Veerin Singh asked a very pertinent question,He argued that we are a small community.Many of our youth are indulging in soul, mental and body destroying activities.Many take to smoking, drugs and alcohol.They go out and indulge into immoral activities like night clubs, prostitution visiting and binge parties, where taking body destructing drugs are the norm and buzz activities. Many then get involved in fights,accidents and gang warfare.Some go home, beat up the children.Beat up the wife, give grieve and make grave threats against aged parents and other relatives.They destruct those around them with their own dysfunctional lives and activities.They influence others, abuse others and abuse themselves.The abuse just does not simply effects them individually but whole extended families and communities.Sometimes their bad and negative actions affect the local Gurduaras as well. When faced with no money to finance their negatives habits and actions, they resort to criminal activities first on a small scale than it grows wider.They steal from parents the meagre earnings or savings, they pawn the poor wife's little jewellary WE cannot disagree at all with this is happening.Though Veerin Singh did not use as many words, his message was understood and appreciated.The gist of his plea and argument was understood and well received by the three member editorial panel and two adminstrators.There a lot of todays evil truth in what he spoke about and it certainly is a very grave issue that should concern the whole community , rising above any factional, jathebandi,and sikh philosophical views and divisions. His question was:Is it not better these youth go to ANY Naam Simran group, Jatha or Gurduara and get involed in proactive activities and actions and learn about Sikhi and God, than dying out on the roads, and life of destruction. Again, we CANNOT disagree at all with him in principle and as short term solution. given our history.We believe it is better than the scenario we, on his prompt, have outlined in the first three paragraphs of this editorial. WE agree,It is better the youth get involved in Naam Simran, either through simple Gurduara and sadh sangat, or through facilitated groups by Sikh learned, or through the jathas that claim Sikhi persuasion openly.IT will save many lives and families from destruction and death and pain.No doubt about that. But, we have a question for Veerin Singh JI, perhaps he can help find a solution too.If we look back in Sikh history, but as history requires a lot of time and we dont have that, so we will skim through quickly, Sikh religion is an all compassing religion.It continues to be even today through a clearly defined parameter .The proof in the pudding can be seen that it welcomes all to its Gurduaras.It encompases all types who call themselves Sikhs.It welcomes the Khalsa, Gursikh, Sikh, Patit Sikhs, Sehajdhari Sikhs, even the hinud groups who profess Sikh religion and never take the amritpaan.Many Muslims too revere The Sikh gurus and parts of Sikh religion if not the whole.In principle it is a very inclusive religion, though it has very clearly defined pillars of the faith that can never be questioned nor shaken off.These are Kirrt Kamaai, Wand Shakna, Naam Japna,through guidance Guruship of the Guru Granth Sahjib; and work to lead the life of sant sipahi-khalsa in karni and kathni [in practice & deeds].Included in this core principles is the issue of identity and service with humilty to humanity.Period.No two way questions about this. Sikh history accepted all the above groups and individuals as part of its domain.Sehadharis came from Sind and other provinces, Nirmala, and Udasi,patits and Sikhs and Gursikhs and and hindus who professsed to be Sikhs were an inclusisve entity.But whta then hapapned these various groups started to enforce and create their versions of practices, some of which were totally alien to Gurbani.Others like Udasi and Nirmalas seeing that money comes when brahmin type practices are intoruduced, began their own rituals, that were never part of Gurbani.These groups took over main historical Gurduaras , and also introduced statute worship.Even Harmander Sahib had hindu devtas lined up everyhwere, and these were ONLY removed around 1930s. Because suddenly it dawned upon caring Sikh intellectuals that Sikhi was being erased slowly and polluted through shadowing means by nefarious individuals with nefarious agendas.The mahant of Nankana Sahib along with many others elsewhere wanted to ensure the Sikh Gurduaras remain their personal domain and wealth.Thus these educated sikhs felt there was a need for Singh sahba Movement, a SRM to codify the SIKH practices based upon Gurbani.Thus many people became aware that not all groups were doing it rightly, many had their personal agendas in brainswashing people with little things and subtle changes to Gurbani.That was the basis small groups were rejected and total Panthic agenda was delivered, which some even today without evidence claim was only a draft, because they have probably attended one such small group and been brainwashed into rejecting total Sikh panthic Unity agenda, that took almost 18 years based upon GURBANI,Sikh historical facts and factual sikh history and establsished precedents to conclude and finalised. So ask yourslves, how can such small groups that came about years later claim to have the original practices and knowledges, often based upon the heresay of their group leader, who has probaly died many years before.The Punjab of 1930/40s and 50s may accept this utter nonsense claims , as people were not educated.But with education today, these people may still attempt to feed unsupported lies as their facts, is bound to be questioned by those who can reason, but it is followed blindly by those who have no capacity to reason.That is the simple defining line. Elsewhere little men 'ambitious'with personal grandoise minds ; men with little education started off their own deras.Some stole names of historical deras and started claiming ownership and originality.One like the Jatha Chowk Mehta in Amritsar, 250 miles away from Damdama Sahib began claiming to be damdami.Another like the AKJ, who only emerged after the death of Bhai Randhir Singh ji in about 1943, now claim their maryada is original from the Gurus.Then we have numerous others claiming all sorts by mere word of mouth that they dispense to those that visit them and soon whole families , villages and towns are carrying this word of mouth around and began believing the false to be truth!It is said if one lies enough times, people will start believing the lies to be truth!THIS IS EXACTLY THAT HASD HAPPENED WITH SIKHS.AT that stage the SIKH population was largely uneducated and all information was passed through word of mouth or through village gurduaras or the little schools attached to these Gurduaras.Many had perhaps read the Guru Granth sahib, and could even recite verbally, but what they had learnt was what they were told.Their education was not based upon explorative mind and logical questioning and understanding.When such types are confronted and asked to explain, they not only cannot epxlain but they get angry and resort to gutter language.Ifthey answer at all; they say who are we to question the Gurus? Questioning the existence of a jatha 250 miles away from Damdama sahib claiming the title damdami is hardly questioning the GURU JI?or can these people not understand the language and words?We have not come across anyone who has questioned anything from the Guru Ji, Guru Granth sahib. When they are asked how did AKJ claim authority over the rest of the panth, when it only emerged in 1943, they say it was Bhai Randhir Singh ji who says so.But Bhai Randhir Singh never said he had any authority OVER the panth anywhere.He followed the sikhya of Guru Granth sahib.He was not a Guru.The panth started in 1469, [or when Guru Nanak ji was 30],Bhai Randhir Singh preached ONLY Gurbani all his life[between 1904 and 1943] and dedicated his life to fight against colonialism.He never started any AKJ jatha.So where did this JATHA come from?Some ambitious followers decided to sat it up, as the name of Bhai Randhir Singh would offer him/them the personal fame they were/was after ...How does that then make it superior to the Sikh Panth that already existed since 1469?There are many such stories.They dont have answers and dont like being questioned. Locally we see this with Baba Sohan Singh Ji.He dedicated his life to sewa and Sikhi from Guru Granth sahib.He was a very simple man who was staunch believer of Gurbani .Anyone who met him , was given the support to understand Gurbani and nothing BUT GURBANI.Gurbani and Gurbani.But these days many are attaching miracles, pilgramges etc ect and what goes ,on which we rather not comment upon. However, we hope no Sikh will indulge in any vices that destroys her/him, his/her relatives,community and town.To fight these vices from destroying our youth, we may not need any religious Sikh group, we just need lots of education,enlightenment and awareness through a joint community effort collected solely for this purpose alone.History tells us involving the sikh religious groups may just carry on promoting their own agendas under guise of Sikhi, youth and welfare of the community and result in further continued divisions.We recognise that some do not fall within this category.But lately largely very fanatical elements have emerged. With such issues having been happened and undermined the Sikhs and religion, how does Sr Veerin Singh proposes we address the issues without diluting the Sikh religion and its unique identity.Because the groups who point blank refuse to adopt the total Sikh Unity agenda are bound to cause more issues and problems and divisions, if not through accidents than fights and quarrels.Basically,sadly Sr Veerin Singh in this un-ideal world, we are caught between the deep blue sea and the devil. Only Sache Paatshah Guru Ji may be able to change our destiny, despite all our anger and frustration.But like Guru Gobind Singh says, grant me thy boon, so I will never refrain from fighting the righteous , is the only hope we can carry on with and support all positive actions to unite, save the youth and the identity and sikh religion. [/QUOTE]
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