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    A spiritual discipline consists of choices a person makes in life, for the purpose of entering into deeper relationship with God. Practices are specific techniques one might employ consistent with a more general discipline. Actual practices by adherents in most religions often differ from the written tenets of their faiths in their holy books.

    ਭਗਵੈ ਵੇਸਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ਬਹੁ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਹੋਇ ॥

    Bhagvai Vays Bharam Mukat Na Ho-ay, Baho Sanjam SaaNt Na Paavai Ko-ay, Gurmat Naam Paraapat Ho-ay.

    No one is liberated by wandering around in saffron-colored robes. Tranquility is not found by strict self-discipline. But by following the Guru's Teachings, one is blessed to receive the Naam, the Name of the Akal Purkh.-----Guru Amardas, Raag Basant, AGGS, Page, 850-18


    Humans are mostly undisciplined by nature. So they look to God for guidance in their actions, and if these are inadequate, they look for more actions. For spiritual growth, however one has to follow the discipline prescribed in his or her faith.

    Discipline is of two types;

    1. Internal

    2. External

    Internal discipline includes acceptance and submission to, God’s Will. One has to go beyond meditation, prayer and reading AGGS. One has to live in the teachings of Sabd Guru honestly and truthfully.

    External discipline includes rituals, symbols, simplicity, selfless service, and solitude. Spiritual practices can be sound and helpful, but they can become the home of superstition and magic, too. No mechanical recitation of the Sabd in any form is effective. One must contemplate and understand the meaning of the message of the Sabd. This world, heaven or hell or anything else does not supernaturally bend to anyone's bidding. Devotional aids are there to help one direct oneself toward God. The moment one begins to believe that he has developed some special powers or merit of his own; he becomes a believer in some magic. He is then idolatrous, and in breach of the teaching of the Sabd pretending to be a true worshipper.

    ਸਿਆਮਲੰ ਮਧੁਰ ਮਾਨੁਖ੍ਯ੍ਯੰ ਰਿਦਯੰ ਭੂਮਿ ਵੈਰਣਹ ॥ਨਿਵੰਤਿ ਹੋਵੰਤਿ ਮਿਥਿਆ ਚੇਤਨੰ ਸੰਤ ਸ੍ਵਜਨਹ ॥

    Siaamlan Madhur Manukhaneh Ridiayn Bhoom Vairneh, Nivant Hovant Mithia Chaytnan Sant Svajhneh.

    The mortal man may be beautiful and speak sweet words, but in the farm of his heart, he may still harbor cruel vengeance. He pretends to bow in worship, but he is false. Beware of him, O, friendly Saints.-----Guru Arjan, Sahskirti Sloke, 60, AGGS, Page, 1359

    Body, mind and senses are very much like untrained horses. It is for us to decide whether we should yield to every impulse of our physical organism or hold it back in check. This is the first step in self-discipline. It means that we must begin to act thoughtfully and teach our body and mind to be reasonable. The purpose of self-discipline mostly, is not to gain merit but to check greed and sloth in mind and body. Excess in any direction is detrimental to our progress.

    The restless mind does not know the way of devotion. It is like a wild elephant, mad, and reprobate, wandering in the illusion of Maya. Without accepting the Will of God, human mind does not achieve poise. For this he must discard egoism, distinction, and the malady of doubt. Human mind is avaricious and forgetful. At times it is meditating, performing austerities and at other times indulging in pleasures of life. It is gripped with desire and duality. Sometimes it is king or hero in the battle. It sheds fear and pride with the Grace of God and becomes devoted and thoughtful towards the love of fellow human beings. As it is being purified with spiritual progress, it develops the divine vision. To become disciplined one has to break the bondages of mother, father, son, daughter, wife, siblings, progeny and Maya.

    Disciplined way of life;

    ਸਾਚੀ ਰਹਤ ਸਾਚਾ ਮਨਿ ਸੋਈ ॥ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਕਥਨੀ ਹੈ ਪਰੁ ਰਹਤ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥ ਨਾਵਹੁ ਭੂਲੇ ਥਾਉ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥

    Saachee Rehat Saacha Man Soyee, Manmukh Kathnee Hai Per Rehat Na Hoyee, Naavoh Bhoolay Thaou Na Koyee.

    Through the lifestyle of Truth, the True Akal Purkh comes to dwell in the mind. The self-willed talks about it, but does not practice the truth. Forgetting the Name, he finds no serenity.-----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 831-12

    Until and unless worldly bondage, attachment and evil are destroyed, mind cannot become disciplined. The person who knows how to conquer lust, wrath, avarice, boasting and pride, can possess the sovereignty of the whole world.

    ਮਨਿ ਜੀਤੈ ਜਗੁ ਜੀਤੁ ॥

    man jīṯai jag jīṯ.

    Conquer your own mind, and conquer the world.-----Guru Nanak, japji, AGGS, Page, 6-17

    Self discipline and self-control enable humans to organize and unite many forces. They begin to increase their power for both thought and action. Under the influence of ego a person may do something, the very thing he knows to be destructive. He may later regret it forever.

    Endurance is one of the greatest assets in life. For him who has conquered himself, his self is a friend. An unconquered lower self acts as an enemy. We become our own enemy when we are thrown out of balance by anger, hatred, grief or any intense emotion, despite being ritualistically religious;

    ਧੋਤੀ ਊਜਲ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਗਲਿ ਮਾਲਾ ॥ ਔਤਰਿ ਕੋ੍ਧੁ ਪੜਹਿ ਨਾਟ ਸਾਲਾ ॥

    Dhotee Oojal Tilak Gal Mala, Anter Krodh Parheh Naat Saalaa.

    He may wear a clean loincloth, apply the ceremonial mark to his forehead, and wear a mala around his neck. But if there is anger within him, he is merely reading the script for his part, like an actor in a play.-----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 832-6

    ਨਾਨਕ ਸਚੇ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨੁ ਕਿਆ ਟਿਕਾ ਕਿਆ ਤਗੁ ॥

    Nanak Sachay Naam Bin Kia Tikka Kia Tug.

    O Nanak, without the True Name, of what use is the frontal mark, or the sacred thread?-----Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 467-6

    ਘਰ ਮਹਿ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਨਦਰਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ਗਲ ਮਹਿ ਪਾਹਣੁ ਲੈ ਲਟਕਾਵੈ ॥ਭਰਮੇ ਭੂਲਾ ਸਾਕਤੁ ਫਿਰਤਾ ॥ਨੀਰੁ ਬਿਰੋਲੈ ਖਪਿ ਖਪਿ ਮਰਤਾ ॥ ਜਿਸੁ ਪਾਹਣ ਕਉ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਕਹਤਾ ॥ ਓਹੁ ਪਾਹਣੁ ਲੈ ਉਸ ਕਉ ਡੁਬਤਾ ॥

    Ghar Meh Thakur Nader Na Aavai, Gal Meh Paahn Lai Latkavai, Bharmay Bhoola Sakat Firtaa, Neer Birolai Khap Khap Martaa, Jis Paahan Kuo Thakur Kehta, Oh Thakur Lai Oas Kou Dubtaa.

    Within the home of his own self, he does not even come to see his Akal Purkh and Master. And yet, around his neck, he hangs a stone god. The faithless cynic wanders around, deluded by doubt. He churns water, and after wasting his life away, he dies. That stone, which he calls his god, pulls him down and drowns him.-----Guru Arjan, Raag Suhi, AGGS, Page, 739

    ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਮਦੁ ਪੀਆ ॥ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਭਗਤਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਸੁਖੁ ਥੀਆ ॥

    Naam Visaar Maya Mud Peeya, Bin Gur Bhagat Naahee Sukh Theeaa.

    Forgetting the Naam, the Name of the Akal Purkh, he drinks in the wine of Maya. Without devotional worship to the Guru, there is no peace.-----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 832-7

    We pray, meditate, study and go through all the practices meant to give us spiritual impetus, yet we stand still, or even take a step backwards. A person may adopt morality but lack patience, forbearance and forgiveness. When anger overtakes us, all the earlier dogmas and theories go for nothing.

    There are two ways to approach self-discipline by self-exertion or self-abandonment.

    1. For those who have surrendered themselves wholly to the highest power, there is no room in their hearts for any darkness, anger or evil. Social harmony and order in our lives are also vitally important in life. When our thought, mind and heart are all focused, the messages of AGGS get engraved within us. We may find high ideals arising within us spontaneously. The lower instincts will touch us no more.

    2. With the right attitude of mind and with the right control over ourselves, we enhance our own welfare. When our mind is distorted or clouded it becomes our enemy. Similarly, when we are puffed up with vanity and are full of egotism, we turn away from our divine nature. Ego works in both ways.

    Spirituality is not a consequence of our calculations or our doctrines. When it evolves in us and we are the first to benefit. Our lives get transformed for the better. Physically we are the same and yet we are not the same. Also, only way we raise and lift our fellow beings is to help them find a higher level of consciousness. It is because what we manifest in the body and mind is the result of what we are in our spiritual consciousness.

    Unfeeling people are often self-centered and selfish due to their way of thought and living. We should not seek the self, but seek the truth. Truth is above all and above truth is truthful conduct. Truth is something we should absorb and assimilate. Truth cleaves to no self. Lower self refers itself to ego. This is the cause of selfishness and the source of evil, and it reveals itself to self. Truth is continuous, deathless, immortal, and does not get old.

    ਸਚੁ ਪੁਰਾਣਾ ਹੋਵੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਸੀਤਾ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਪਾਟੈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਚੋ ਸਚਾ ਤਿਚਰੁ ਜਾਪੀ ਜਾਪੈ ॥

    Such Purana Hovay Nahin, Seeta Kaday Na Paatay, Nanak Saahib Sacho Sachaa Tichar Jaapee Jaapai.

    Truth grows neither old nor tattered and the all holy Akal Purkh gets manifested to mind while contemplation lasts, says Nanak.-----Guru Nanak, Raag Ram kali, AGGS, Page, 956-1

    The self-adjustments and self-possessions are essential to our well being. One who has self-control is serene in the midst of all dualistic turmoil. We need individual discipline. The mind may not enjoy this, because it has formed the habit of lighter interests. The ordinary mind finds more pleasure in reading a novel, watching movie or TV, than in studying AGGS and Gurbani. Yet one who wishes to sustain his spiritual nature has no choice but to cultivate new habits -- attend religious functions for spiritual growth and not for social recognition. These new habits must becomes a second nature, and we should come to love them. It is to be obtained through in silent meditation as well as meditation in action. Conquests one seeks in the external world are insignificant in comparison with the treasures within. Until one conquers this inner kingdom, outer conquests remain fleeting and uncertain. One’s own unwise actions may at any moment cause his ruin.

    If one has dirt out side, it can be removed with a shower, more so with soap. Then one may even put on a clean, business suit to impress the others. What about the dirt inside, which cannot be seen? It can only be removed with spiritual progress and growth.

    ਭਰੀਐ ਹਥੁ ਪੈਰੁ ਤਨੁ ਦੇਹ ॥ਪਾਣੀ ਧੋਤੈ ਉਤਰਸੁ ਖੇਹ ॥ਮੂਤ ਪਲੀਤੀ ਕਪੜੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ਦੇ ਸਾਬੂਣੁ ਲਈਐ ਓਹੁ ਧੋਇ ॥ ਭਰੀਐ ਮਤਿ ਪਾਪਾ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ॥ਓਹੁ ਧੋਪੈ ਨਾਵੈ ਕੈ ਰੰਗਿ ॥

    Bharyai Hath Pair Tan Deh, Pani Dhotai Utres Khayh, Bharyai Mat Papaan Kai Sung, Oh Dhopai Navaai Kay Rung.

    When the hands, the feet and the body are dirty, water can wash away the dirt. When the clothes are soiled and stained by urine, soap can wash them clean. But when the intellect is stained and polluted by sin, it can only be cleansed by the Love of the Name.-----Japji. Pauri 20


    A person is not a conqueror in the spiritual sense unless he is willing to give up any material advantage in favor of his inner life. Each of us must bring out what is best in him. When our lower nature no longer exerts itself regardless of the nature of a provocation, then self-conquest is complete. One should be concerned about internal discipline and purity rather external cleanliness. A spiritual man is calm, a vulgar one frets about. Discipline in one’s life is wonderful for both mind and body. Spiritual discipline helps to keep our relationship with God in good working order. It may help develop intimacy with Akal Purkh. Disciplines and practices are tools for evolvement of character. They are a part of our cooperation with the Spirit in the task of remaking us into what God wants us to be. No discipline by itself can earn us heavenly brownie points, because there are no such points to earn.

    Reciting the Name of God without understanding is a mechanical repetition. It has no spiritual value. It may create false expectation of achieving one’s desires. It is of more value if one deliberates and lives in the Sabd. Resulting joy can enhance spiritual experience As Guru Nanak says in Raag Asa:

    ਇਹੁ ਤਨੁ ਧਰਤੀ ਬੀਜੁ ਕਰਮਾ ਕਰੋ ਸਲਿਲ ਆਪਾਉ ਸਾਰਿੰਗਪਾਣੀ ॥ਮਨੁ ਕਿਰਸਾਣੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਿਦੈ ਜੰਮਾਇ ਲੈ ਇਉ ਪਾਵਸਿ ਪਦੁ ਨਿਰਬਾਣੀ ॥

    Ayh Tan Dhartee Beej Karmaa Karo Salil Aapaa-ou Saaringpaanee, Man Kirsaan Har Ridai Jammaa-ay Lai I-o Paavas Pad Nirbaanee.

    Make this body the field, and plant the seed of good actions. Water it with the Name of the Akal Purkh, who holds the entire world in Its Hands. Let your mind be the farmer; the Akal Purkh shall sprout in your heart, and you shall attain the state of Nirvaanaa.-----Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 23-15

    Virinder S. Grewal
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    The fundamental premise of Sikhism is self discipline, mastery over will and conquering the mind to gain control of oneself and ones world thereby. Man Jeete Jagjeet, He who has conquered his own mind, curbed its irrational petulance, curtailed illogical inclinations and eliminated detrimental habits is released from the mortal to gain Jiwan Mukhti, Salvation during one’s lifetime.

    It is unfortunate few are blessed sufficiently to reach this plethora and echelon of consciousness. Until mortal gains faith in Gurmat he may not currently fully understand, or understanding of the cause of his actions, intentions, aims, ambitions he lives as a portal, a volatile vessel, a susceptible reactor to the dual negative and positive forces surrounding him eliciting responses without sense and reason.

    Knowledge is not Gurmat, we know consuming oil rich foods causes excess weight gain, we comprehend these oils have an addictive quality inciting an urge to consume. Reason overrides urge to ingest as much as our energy output requirements, an ingrained survival mechanism overrides sense and mortal consumes beyond his personal necessity and gains weight accruing health problems thereby.

    Will craves serotonin rich foods, aan, as carbohydrate foods containing chemicals produce a comforting effect upon the psyche. The mind knows a low energy lifestyle permits not a high carbohydrate diet and reason dictates we undergo a period of three days to forty, to enable the body to eliminate the chemicals causing craving for foodstuffs, action, watching tv, excessive talkativeness caused by internal stress, irrational mood swings caused by hormonal imbalance, etc to ward off addiction. The body requires a period to cleanse itself of any addiction, but one must understand the cause and nature of the power of Sangat, nutrition, thinking causing an effect upon a person’s bio-system.

    In Punjab we understand foodstuffs may have side effects, for example rice causes excess phlegm, we add cloves and ginger to counteract this negative effect to assist good health. Eastern society is very mindful of cause and effect, of speech, behaviour, thinking, stress etc and its society’s are based upon support for one another in good and testing times. We understand speaking in anger causes loss of respect and standing amongst peers, and results in abrasiveness with hindsight indefensible.

    The individual is a reactor in a volatile reactionary world. He evolves from a defensive existence, a retaliation against all that occurs about him, to a thinking, reasonable individual who curbs his speech according to the people about him, consumes what his mind and body requires, adjusts his responses to avoid unwarranted confrontations, curbs any irrational cravings for matter or material not useful to his physical and emotional wellbeing.

    Recitation of prayers as obligation becomes habitual and indoctrinates the mind with Gurmat it may not understand at point of recitation but becomes crystal clear in later years when the mind is matured and consciousness expanded. We know lying, anger, beimaani, and egotism hinders the spiritual progress, whilst self discipline through following traditions, adhering to rigid religious routines until they become an integral part of our moral nature and character create autonomous and self sufficient thinking people.

    For these few reasons self discipline, and discipline in ones deportment is essential in character building and spiritual awakening. There are many illustrative segment in scripture to further enhance the perfect philosophy of mans spiritual path toward self realisation.
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