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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="The Khalsa Fauj" data-source="post: 50782" data-attributes="member: 4028"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: red">Side</span></strong><span style="color: red"> <strong>Note</strong>: We must know that the writer when referring to the king near Satluj river, is directing the talk towards Guru Gobind Singh Ji. It is further made clear when it says that followers from all over the places came and received boons. Not only that, it also talks about the king being young and a religious leader. There should be no doubt that it is directed towards Guru Gobind Singh Ji.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chariter 16</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Near the Satluj River, a king lived happily. A prostitute arrived in the city to make money. 1.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Anandpur was newly established and was under control of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Sikhs mostly lived there so it is hard to believe that a prostitute would have customers in Anandpur Sahib. Is this not an attack on character of Sikhs?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Everyone knew her as Shujeeya but her lovers referred to her as Ludeeya. Every man who saw her, became attracted to her and received pleasure in the heart. 2.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Who were her lovers? Were they Sikhs? The writer fails to make it clear. Did the Sikhs also become attracted to her and visited her? Is this not an attack on character of Sikhs?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">She was attracted towards the king but she could not convince him. She thought about ideas to meet the king. 3.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">(She thought) He doesn’t for love me so what should be done? He doesn’t come to my house and neither does he call me to his house). 4.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Some way has to be found to meet him fast. She thought that maybe he could be won over through jantars and mantars. 5.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">She was exhausted trying jantars and mnatars but he king didn’t visit her. Then she plotted a ploy to allure the king. 6.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">She dressed in orange clothing which the Yogis wear and bowed to the king when entering the king’s court. 7.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Did the prostitute not know where she was going? Did she think that the Guru would fall for her? Is this not an attack on Guru Sahib? Is this not questioning the character of Guru Sahib? Then the writer says that she tries jantars and mantars. Maybe the writer didn’t know but Gurmat doesn’t agree to performing mantars. It is strictly against Gurmat. The writer again fails to mention that mantars are against Gurmat. Also Guru Ji was so unaware that he could not tell the difference between a woman dressed as a yogi and a man dressed as a yogi? Is this not an attack on the greatness of Guru Gobind Singh Ji?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Seeing the Yogi, the king was impressed internally and thought about receiving some mantars from the yogi. King called a messenger, told him what to say and sent him to the Yogi (prostitute) so he the king could learn the skill of mantars. 8.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Once again, the writer makes Guru Gobind Singh Ji as a king searching for mantars. Someone could say that the mantars here don’t mean the magic spells but it means consultation or virtues. Even if that point is accepted, it still doesn’t make it correct as there is no reason to learn virtues from a yogi or have consultation with yogis on Panthic or even personal matters. Guru is the one who teaches others, not the other way around. However, the mantars here mean magic spells. This will be proven later in the chariter. Is this not slandering Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Could someone promoting this garbage be considered a Sikh of Guru Nanak or Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Is there any shame left?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">King’s servant went to the Yogi. Whatever the king had said, the servant repeated to the Yogi. Servant asked the Yogi to give some mantars to the king and to please complete this task for his boss (king). 9.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So Guru was sending his servants to make appointments to learn mantars from yogis? Why was Guru Sahib so desperate to learn mantars when they are not even as per Gurmat? Guru Sahib said something and did something?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The yogi opened his/her eyes after 3 hours and told the servant to bring the king to her/his house if the king wanted to learn virtues. 10.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Bring him to me at midnight. With Gorakh’s blessing, the king will not go back empty handed. 11.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Why did the yogi have her/his eyes closed for 3 hours? Closing eyes is also against Gurmat. Gurbani calls it hypocrisy and the writer again fails to mention this. The writer then says with Gorakh’s blessings; here Gorakh means Gorakh Naath the yogi. Gurmat only says to worship Akaal and look for help from Akaal. Not some deities or humans or saints, no matter how great they are. This is evidenced in the concept of ‘<em>Pooja Akaal</em> <em>Kee’</em> meaning worship of God. God is worshipped by following Gurbani. Gorakh Naath was the founder of the yogi sect of Hinduism. Was Gorakh Nath greater than Guru Nanak that the 10th Nanak had to go to a follower of Gorakh to learn virtues? Guru Nanak proved the path of yogis wrong as evidenced in ‘<em>Sidh Gost</em>’ written in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Tria Chariter promoters say that those questioning Tria Chariters are questioning Guru and Gurbani. After reading this verse, it should clear on who is questioning Guru and Gurbani.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The servant relayed the message back to the king and woke him up at midnight. He took the king to the yogi’s house. Upon seeing the king, the yogi felt great pleasure. 12.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Who cares if the yogi felt pleasure or not. What does it have to do with Gurmat?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Yogi asked the king to send all the people away from the site and call for sandalwood sticks, wick lamp, rice, flowers and good liquor. 13.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The king did as asked and told the people to go away. He also received the sandalwood sticks, wick lamp, rice, flowers and good liquor. 14.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then the king sent all of his people away and stayed there pleasurably to learn the mantar. 15.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: What does liquor have to do with virtues and what do others items have to do with learning virtues? Items such as wick lamps, sandalwood, rice, flowers, etc. are used in learning mantars (magic spells) and not when learning virtues. Therefore, it should be clear that the mantars here mean magic spells which are against fundamentals of Gurmat. Once again the writer tries to make Guru Gobind Singh Ji look like a person who doesn’t know much about his surroundings. This is a direct attack on Guru Gobind Singh Ji.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">When the king was alone, the yogi said that I will show you magic now and will teach you the mantar later. 16.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Gurmat also doesn’t accept showing off of magic powers. Once again, the writer fails to mention that this is against Gurmat.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">From male, I will become a female, and then I will become a male again. Being a male, I will teach you mantar and being a female, I will have sex with you. 17.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: There should be no confusion here as this is not magic but a fraud. There is nothing special in looking like a woman and then looking like a man. Only a confused person would want to look like the opposite gender. Example, those who shave hair are usually confused as they want to cut hair and look more like females than males.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">King Said:</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The male who gives mantar is like a father and woman who gives mantar is like a mother. They are to be served and are not be had sexual intercourse with. 18.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: These statements which seem like the writer is promoting Gurmat are just sugar-coating on poison. Don’t be fooled by these.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Guru has to be served for mamy years and then after trying hard, the mantar has to be received. Therefore, it is proper to bow to Guru. Hey witty! Then tell me why should sex be had with him/her? 19.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So suddenly the yogi becomes Guru of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Where are the brains of promoters of this slandering of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Do these people have mental problems? Is their mission to promote these yogis or other anti-Gurmat paths as better than the path of Guru Nanak? Who are the real slanderers of Guru? Promoters of such stories or the ones who oppose these?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then the yogi said that I performed his clever act to meet you. Now have sex with me my beloved. Now get on my bed. 20.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Did the woman think that Guru Sahib was so easily going to get on her bed and have sex with her?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">My body has been thirsting to meet you and my body parts have become weak. Hey beloved! Come and accommodate yourself on my bed and make love with me today. 21.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If you try to run away then I will get you caught as a thief and if you let me go, I will speak foul to you. Otherwise, have sex with me without a thought. 22.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">When a woman, filled with lust, comes to the one who she loves and if the loved one lets her go without fulfilling her desire, that person shall be thrown in deep hell. 23.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If a woman’s body is filled with lust but a man refuses to fulfill her desires, he should be thrown into the deep pit of hell. 24.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So people of Anandpur had the character of Guru Sahib in question that they would believe a prostitute and accept Guru Ji as a thief? Guru Ji wasn’t like a lot of the Gurudwara committee members or granthis who steal money from Gurudwaras. Did the prostitute seriously think that her threats and tactics were going to work? What are the threats of being thrown in hell to Guru? Even Sikhs don’t care about hell or heaven so then why would Guru believe in it? Gurmat rejects the hells and heavens after death. Writer again fails to preach Gurmat and keeps promoting Sikhs and their Guru as followers of Hindu philosophy.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Creator has given me birth in the house of a prostitute. I took the appearance of a Yogi to meet you. Now quickly place yourself on my bed. I will live as your slave. Don’t make me more anxious. 25.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So is it Guru’s fault that she is born in a prostitute’s house? She didn’t have to be a prostitute. What is the purpose of writing that the appearance of yogi was only taken to meet the king? Also Guru Sahib didn’t look for slaves. Guru Sahib freed the people from slavery; not made them slaves.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">So what if you are smart and are young adult. I have been pierced by separation from you so don’t leave my desire unfilled. 26.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: It looks like the woman is lecturing Guru on what to do rather than Guru Sahib lecturing her on what is right and what is wrong.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Don’t waste the time anymore. I am under control of lust. I am drowned in lust up to my head. Don’t let me off with sexual intercourse and don’t have ego due to my desire like black clouded night. 27.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">People come to you from all over the places and receive the boons which they wish for. What wrong have I done that I can not have you? I will be the slave of your slaves. Proceed to my bed. 28.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The king said that he came to learn mantars and that she played this act. Why should I have sexual intercourse with you? I am really scared of falling from my faith. 29.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Then the prostitute accuses Guru Sahib of having ego because he didn’t agree to her wishes according to the story. Is it ego to keep moral code of conduct and refuse to participate it morally corrupt acts? So Guru Sahib refused to have sex because of fear of falling from faith and nothing to do with morals and shame? If Guru Sahib wasn’t the Guru of Sikhs, he would have agreed to the prostitute and participated in sexual activity? How low are the Tria Chariter promoters going to fall morally? Don’t these people fear God when they slander Guru by linking such garbage to Guru Sahib?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">That woman tried persuasion through many ways. She tried many opinions and persuasions. She tried many jantars and mantars. However, she could not persuade the king into her hands. 30.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Mantars don’t work on Gursikhs so forget about trying them on Guru. Shows the lack of knowledge the writer has.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">She went into the veranda and started shouting “thief” “thief”. She tried to scare the king to meet him. She came back to him and said to listen to her. She said that the king can either have sex with her or she will get him tied up. 31.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Hearing “thief” “thief”, people came to the location. Woman told the people that she started talking while in her sleep. When the people were gone, she held the hand of the king. She told the king to have sexual intercourse with or her face being tied up. 32.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: It says the king’s hand was held by her. Didn’t the king snap his hand away from her? Guru Sahib didn’t mind prostitutes holding his hand? Isn’t this an attack on character of Guru Sahib?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then the king thought in his mind that the concept of mantars is to put on an act and run away. 33.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If I run, I lose honor. If I have sexual intercourse, I fall from religion. Due to both of these issues, the situation has become very hard to handle. May God protect me now. 34.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then king thought that if a son is born, he will become a pimp and if a daughter is born, she will be a prostitute. By having sexual intercourse, religion is lost and by running, I will be tied up. 35.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Does the verse talking about having pimp or prostitute as child according to Gurmat? Does this mean Guru Sahib would have fulfilled her wish had it not been the fear of child being born as prostitute or pimp? Is this not a direct attack on character of Guru Sahib?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">King said, “hey beloved! Listen to me. I was just checking you devotion towards me. Whoever finds a beautiful woman like you and lets her go, is a big imbecile. 36.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: The woman keeps calling Guru Sahib as beloved in a *******ed way and Guru Sahib doesn’t say a word to stop her? How low the chariter promoters going to go to link this garbage to Guru Sahib? Would Guru Sahib ever say that the one who lets go of a beautiful woman is an idiot? When are these enemies of Guru and Guru’s Panth going to stop attacking Guru and Gurmat?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If a beautiful woman like you is received, anyone who thinks about forsaking her, his having birth is shameful. 37.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Get a large amount of poppy husk, cannabis, and opium quickly. Being happy from the heart, feed me cannabis. 38.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">You drink a lot of liquor and feed me cannabis. I will have sexual intercourse with you for 12 hours. 39.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So all those who follow Gurmat had no point in being born? Is this not a direct attack on Gurmat? Is this what the naked legs ones read and promote as Gurmat? Would Guru Sahib ever order drugs? Would Guru Sahib ever tell a woman who doesn’t belong to him that he would have sex with her for 12 hours? Are these stories the reasons why they are often caught in sex scandals or rapes? Can these people ever be considered Sikhs? According to the rehat maryada, they can not be. This is the reason why they reject the rehat maryada and make their own maraydas. Who are the real enemies of Guru? Those who promote garbage like this or the ones who oppose it?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chaupai</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Without knowing, she became joyful after listening to these words. She could not tell between fact and falseness. Being really happy in the heart, she ordered the drugs the king had ordered. 40.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: The writer seems to have a grudge against women. Maybe his wife ran away or performed one the tricks on someone else. What is so great about fooling women? Is this Gurmat?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Poppy husk, cannabis, opium and deep grinded cannabis and liquor prepared seven times were brought. 41.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Isn’t this verse promoting drugs? Not once have drugs been denounced in the chariter. Would Guru Sahib not say how bad drugs are? Shows that this isn’t work of Guru Sahib.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then the king thought in the mind. Today I will not have sex with her. This is the wisdom from the mantar. I will make her really high on drugs and lie her down on the bed and will run away saving my religion. I will give her 60 coins before going. 42.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: What did the king mean by not today? King was planning to indulge in sexual activity some other time? What were the 60 coins going to be given for? Was the prostitute a great preacher of Gurmat? Did she invent a special device to help people succeed in day to day activities? Does it mean it is good to give prostitutes money and make them happy? How low are the Panth enemies going to go to promote this garbage? Can these people ever be called Sikhs?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">She does not understand love. She only cares about money. Are scorpions, snakes and prostitutes ever friends of anyone? 43.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Increasing pleasure, the king made her drink a lot of liquor and to run away, he made her lofty and got her to sleep on the bed. 44.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The king fed her liquor with his own hands and through this act, drugged her up and made her sleep on the bed. 45.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So Guru Sahib filled glasses of liquor with his own hands and got her to drink it with his own hands? Can anyone ever think of Guru Sahib filling glasses of liquor and putting them to the mouth of a woman? Is this Gurmat?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">King filled glasses and fed her with his hands. He showed a lot of love towards the prostitute. When she got high and went to sleep, the king placed 60 coins there and ran away. 46.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If a woman loves you, do not love her. If she becomes intoxicated in you sweetness, do not ruin yourself in her sweetness. If you can not understand the feelings of a woman, make sure she doesn’t know the thought of your heart. 47.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Why are the same lines being repeated again and again? It seems like the writer was also under influence of drugs while composing this garbage. When he says not to love woman, which woman is he talking about? Does it include the wife? Is it doesn’t then why isn’t it made clear? If it does include the wife, then how can 2 bodies function as one if there is no trust? Is this Gurmat philosophy?</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Making the woman unconscious (with drugs) and giving her 60 coins, the king ran away. He reached home and no one saw him coming. 48.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: So the king did indeed run away? If no one saw him coming home, then how did the writer know? The writer is none other than poet Raam. Is poet Raam the Guru of these chariter promoters? Those who do accept that these are writings of poets and say these are accepted writings, do they even know what Gurmat is? Also, who accepted these writings? Is mahant narainu and company or is it is children of narainu (also known as modern mahants)? So if someone wanted to make money, just act as a prostitute and try to lure Guru of Sikhs. Those who sell their souls to RSS are no better than prostitutes like Shujeeya.</span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Arill</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Then the king came home and made a vow that he saved his faith this time with some good tricks. He vowed that he would now spread the greatness of his God throughout many countries and states. He also vowed not to look at other women. 49.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Does this verse mean Guru Sahib wasn’t telling people about God or spreading greatness of God before? Does this mean Guru Sahib used to check out women before this incidence? How low are the chariter promoters going to get? How far will they go to ruin the image of great Guru Sahib? Is there no shame or religious conduct left? </span></span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Dohra</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The lesson from that day is in my heart. Since that day, I have not been looking at other women. 50.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: navy">Investigation</span></strong><span style="color: navy">: Once again, does this mean Guru Sahib used to look at women in a sexual way before this incidence? How low are the promoters of such garbage going to go? D they fear God or Guru? Do they have no shame insulting Guru who sacrificed everything for them? Do they have no shame defaming the Guru, due to whom they have huge bellies and make a living? How far will they go to ruin the image of great Guru Sahib? Is there no shame or religious conduct left? Will anyone take action? If you care and love Guru, then spread this article to everyone you know. Otherwise, you can join the chariter promoters and become an enemy of Guru. So it is up to you to decide on which side to take. Which one will you take? Will you spread this article to everyone you know who claims to be a Sikh?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Some lines such as “sandalwood, wick lamp, rice, flowers and good liquor was brought” are repeated again and again. This shows that the writer wasn’t in the right state of mind when writing these chariters. This turns out to be more of a male chariter rather than a female chariter. Also, not to forget, in the end, the prostitute wins as her motive to collect money was also fulfilled. This is a direct attack towards Guru Gobind Singh Ji. No Sikh of Guru Nanak will tolerate this and can never accept this litter as Gurbani.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Chariter 16 translation and analysis completed!</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Please kindly forgive any mistakes and provide any suggestions.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: right"><p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Harmanjit Singh</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: right"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><a href="mailto:mannharm66@hotmail.com">mannharm66@hotmail.com</a></span></span></span></p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Khalsa Fauj, post: 50782, member: 4028"] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=red]Side[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=red] [B]Note[/B]: We must know that the writer when referring to the king near Satluj river, is directing the talk towards Guru Gobind Singh Ji. It is further made clear when it says that followers from all over the places came and received boons. Not only that, it also talks about the king being young and a religious leader. There should be no doubt that it is directed towards Guru Gobind Singh Ji.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chariter 16[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Near the Satluj River, a king lived happily. A prostitute arrived in the city to make money. 1.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Anandpur was newly established and was under control of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Sikhs mostly lived there so it is hard to believe that a prostitute would have customers in Anandpur Sahib. Is this not an attack on character of Sikhs?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Everyone knew her as Shujeeya but her lovers referred to her as Ludeeya. Every man who saw her, became attracted to her and received pleasure in the heart. 2.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Who were her lovers? Were they Sikhs? The writer fails to make it clear. Did the Sikhs also become attracted to her and visited her? Is this not an attack on character of Sikhs?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]She was attracted towards the king but she could not convince him. She thought about ideas to meet the king. 3.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman](She thought) He doesn’t for love me so what should be done? He doesn’t come to my house and neither does he call me to his house). 4.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Some way has to be found to meet him fast. She thought that maybe he could be won over through jantars and mantars. 5.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]She was exhausted trying jantars and mnatars but he king didn’t visit her. Then she plotted a ploy to allure the king. 6.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]She dressed in orange clothing which the Yogis wear and bowed to the king when entering the king’s court. 7.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Did the prostitute not know where she was going? Did she think that the Guru would fall for her? Is this not an attack on Guru Sahib? Is this not questioning the character of Guru Sahib? Then the writer says that she tries jantars and mantars. Maybe the writer didn’t know but Gurmat doesn’t agree to performing mantars. It is strictly against Gurmat. The writer again fails to mention that mantars are against Gurmat. Also Guru Ji was so unaware that he could not tell the difference between a woman dressed as a yogi and a man dressed as a yogi? Is this not an attack on the greatness of Guru Gobind Singh Ji?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Seeing the Yogi, the king was impressed internally and thought about receiving some mantars from the yogi. King called a messenger, told him what to say and sent him to the Yogi (prostitute) so he the king could learn the skill of mantars. 8.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Once again, the writer makes Guru Gobind Singh Ji as a king searching for mantars. Someone could say that the mantars here don’t mean the magic spells but it means consultation or virtues. Even if that point is accepted, it still doesn’t make it correct as there is no reason to learn virtues from a yogi or have consultation with yogis on Panthic or even personal matters. Guru is the one who teaches others, not the other way around. However, the mantars here mean magic spells. This will be proven later in the chariter. Is this not slandering Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Could someone promoting this garbage be considered a Sikh of Guru Nanak or Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Is there any shame left?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]King’s servant went to the Yogi. Whatever the king had said, the servant repeated to the Yogi. Servant asked the Yogi to give some mantars to the king and to please complete this task for his boss (king). 9.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So Guru was sending his servants to make appointments to learn mantars from yogis? Why was Guru Sahib so desperate to learn mantars when they are not even as per Gurmat? Guru Sahib said something and did something?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The yogi opened his/her eyes after 3 hours and told the servant to bring the king to her/his house if the king wanted to learn virtues. 10.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Bring him to me at midnight. With Gorakh’s blessing, the king will not go back empty handed. 11.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Why did the yogi have her/his eyes closed for 3 hours? Closing eyes is also against Gurmat. Gurbani calls it hypocrisy and the writer again fails to mention this. The writer then says with Gorakh’s blessings; here Gorakh means Gorakh Naath the yogi. Gurmat only says to worship Akaal and look for help from Akaal. Not some deities or humans or saints, no matter how great they are. This is evidenced in the concept of ‘[I]Pooja Akaal[/I] [I]Kee’[/I] meaning worship of God. God is worshipped by following Gurbani. Gorakh Naath was the founder of the yogi sect of Hinduism. Was Gorakh Nath greater than Guru Nanak that the 10th Nanak had to go to a follower of Gorakh to learn virtues? Guru Nanak proved the path of yogis wrong as evidenced in ‘[I]Sidh Gost[/I]’ written in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Tria Chariter promoters say that those questioning Tria Chariters are questioning Guru and Gurbani. After reading this verse, it should clear on who is questioning Guru and Gurbani.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The servant relayed the message back to the king and woke him up at midnight. He took the king to the yogi’s house. Upon seeing the king, the yogi felt great pleasure. 12.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Who cares if the yogi felt pleasure or not. What does it have to do with Gurmat?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Yogi asked the king to send all the people away from the site and call for sandalwood sticks, wick lamp, rice, flowers and good liquor. 13.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The king did as asked and told the people to go away. He also received the sandalwood sticks, wick lamp, rice, flowers and good liquor. 14.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Then the king sent all of his people away and stayed there pleasurably to learn the mantar. 15.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: What does liquor have to do with virtues and what do others items have to do with learning virtues? Items such as wick lamps, sandalwood, rice, flowers, etc. are used in learning mantars (magic spells) and not when learning virtues. Therefore, it should be clear that the mantars here mean magic spells which are against fundamentals of Gurmat. Once again the writer tries to make Guru Gobind Singh Ji look like a person who doesn’t know much about his surroundings. This is a direct attack on Guru Gobind Singh Ji.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]When the king was alone, the yogi said that I will show you magic now and will teach you the mantar later. 16.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Gurmat also doesn’t accept showing off of magic powers. Once again, the writer fails to mention that this is against Gurmat.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]From male, I will become a female, and then I will become a male again. Being a male, I will teach you mantar and being a female, I will have sex with you. 17.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: There should be no confusion here as this is not magic but a fraud. There is nothing special in looking like a woman and then looking like a man. Only a confused person would want to look like the opposite gender. Example, those who shave hair are usually confused as they want to cut hair and look more like females than males.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]King Said:[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The male who gives mantar is like a father and woman who gives mantar is like a mother. They are to be served and are not be had sexual intercourse with. 18.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: These statements which seem like the writer is promoting Gurmat are just sugar-coating on poison. Don’t be fooled by these.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Guru has to be served for mamy years and then after trying hard, the mantar has to be received. Therefore, it is proper to bow to Guru. Hey witty! Then tell me why should sex be had with him/her? 19.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So suddenly the yogi becomes Guru of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Where are the brains of promoters of this slandering of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Do these people have mental problems? Is their mission to promote these yogis or other anti-Gurmat paths as better than the path of Guru Nanak? Who are the real slanderers of Guru? Promoters of such stories or the ones who oppose these?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Then the yogi said that I performed his clever act to meet you. Now have sex with me my beloved. Now get on my bed. 20.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Did the woman think that Guru Sahib was so easily going to get on her bed and have sex with her?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]My body has been thirsting to meet you and my body parts have become weak. Hey beloved! Come and accommodate yourself on my bed and make love with me today. 21.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If you try to run away then I will get you caught as a thief and if you let me go, I will speak foul to you. Otherwise, have sex with me without a thought. 22.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]When a woman, filled with lust, comes to the one who she loves and if the loved one lets her go without fulfilling her desire, that person shall be thrown in deep hell. 23.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If a woman’s body is filled with lust but a man refuses to fulfill her desires, he should be thrown into the deep pit of hell. 24.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So people of Anandpur had the character of Guru Sahib in question that they would believe a prostitute and accept Guru Ji as a thief? Guru Ji wasn’t like a lot of the Gurudwara committee members or granthis who steal money from Gurudwaras. Did the prostitute seriously think that her threats and tactics were going to work? What are the threats of being thrown in hell to Guru? Even Sikhs don’t care about hell or heaven so then why would Guru believe in it? Gurmat rejects the hells and heavens after death. Writer again fails to preach Gurmat and keeps promoting Sikhs and their Guru as followers of Hindu philosophy.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Creator has given me birth in the house of a prostitute. I took the appearance of a Yogi to meet you. Now quickly place yourself on my bed. I will live as your slave. Don’t make me more anxious. 25.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So is it Guru’s fault that she is born in a prostitute’s house? She didn’t have to be a prostitute. What is the purpose of writing that the appearance of yogi was only taken to meet the king? Also Guru Sahib didn’t look for slaves. Guru Sahib freed the people from slavery; not made them slaves.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]So what if you are smart and are young adult. I have been pierced by separation from you so don’t leave my desire unfilled. 26.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: It looks like the woman is lecturing Guru on what to do rather than Guru Sahib lecturing her on what is right and what is wrong.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Don’t waste the time anymore. I am under control of lust. I am drowned in lust up to my head. Don’t let me off with sexual intercourse and don’t have ego due to my desire like black clouded night. 27.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]People come to you from all over the places and receive the boons which they wish for. What wrong have I done that I can not have you? I will be the slave of your slaves. Proceed to my bed. 28.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The king said that he came to learn mantars and that she played this act. Why should I have sexual intercourse with you? I am really scared of falling from my faith. 29.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Then the prostitute accuses Guru Sahib of having ego because he didn’t agree to her wishes according to the story. Is it ego to keep moral code of conduct and refuse to participate it morally corrupt acts? So Guru Sahib refused to have sex because of fear of falling from faith and nothing to do with morals and shame? If Guru Sahib wasn’t the Guru of Sikhs, he would have agreed to the prostitute and participated in sexual activity? How low are the Tria Chariter promoters going to fall morally? Don’t these people fear God when they slander Guru by linking such garbage to Guru Sahib?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]That woman tried persuasion through many ways. She tried many opinions and persuasions. She tried many jantars and mantars. However, she could not persuade the king into her hands. 30.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Mantars don’t work on Gursikhs so forget about trying them on Guru. Shows the lack of knowledge the writer has.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]She went into the veranda and started shouting “thief” “thief”. She tried to scare the king to meet him. She came back to him and said to listen to her. She said that the king can either have sex with her or she will get him tied up. 31.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Hearing “thief” “thief”, people came to the location. Woman told the people that she started talking while in her sleep. When the people were gone, she held the hand of the king. She told the king to have sexual intercourse with or her face being tied up. 32.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: It says the king’s hand was held by her. Didn’t the king snap his hand away from her? Guru Sahib didn’t mind prostitutes holding his hand? Isn’t this an attack on character of Guru Sahib?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Then the king thought in his mind that the concept of mantars is to put on an act and run away. 33.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If I run, I lose honor. If I have sexual intercourse, I fall from religion. Due to both of these issues, the situation has become very hard to handle. May God protect me now. 34.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Then king thought that if a son is born, he will become a pimp and if a daughter is born, she will be a prostitute. By having sexual intercourse, religion is lost and by running, I will be tied up. 35.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Does the verse talking about having pimp or prostitute as child according to Gurmat? Does this mean Guru Sahib would have fulfilled her wish had it not been the fear of child being born as prostitute or pimp? Is this not a direct attack on character of Guru Sahib?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]King said, “hey beloved! Listen to me. I was just checking you devotion towards me. Whoever finds a beautiful woman like you and lets her go, is a big imbecile. 36.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: The woman keeps calling Guru Sahib as beloved in a *******ed way and Guru Sahib doesn’t say a word to stop her? How low the chariter promoters going to go to link this garbage to Guru Sahib? Would Guru Sahib ever say that the one who lets go of a beautiful woman is an idiot? When are these enemies of Guru and Guru’s Panth going to stop attacking Guru and Gurmat?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If a beautiful woman like you is received, anyone who thinks about forsaking her, his having birth is shameful. 37.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Get a large amount of poppy husk, cannabis, and opium quickly. Being happy from the heart, feed me cannabis. 38.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]You drink a lot of liquor and feed me cannabis. I will have sexual intercourse with you for 12 hours. 39.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So all those who follow Gurmat had no point in being born? Is this not a direct attack on Gurmat? Is this what the naked legs ones read and promote as Gurmat? Would Guru Sahib ever order drugs? Would Guru Sahib ever tell a woman who doesn’t belong to him that he would have sex with her for 12 hours? Are these stories the reasons why they are often caught in sex scandals or rapes? Can these people ever be considered Sikhs? According to the rehat maryada, they can not be. This is the reason why they reject the rehat maryada and make their own maraydas. Who are the real enemies of Guru? Those who promote garbage like this or the ones who oppose it?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chaupai[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Without knowing, she became joyful after listening to these words. She could not tell between fact and falseness. Being really happy in the heart, she ordered the drugs the king had ordered. 40.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: The writer seems to have a grudge against women. Maybe his wife ran away or performed one the tricks on someone else. What is so great about fooling women? Is this Gurmat?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Poppy husk, cannabis, opium and deep grinded cannabis and liquor prepared seven times were brought. 41.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Isn’t this verse promoting drugs? Not once have drugs been denounced in the chariter. Would Guru Sahib not say how bad drugs are? Shows that this isn’t work of Guru Sahib.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Then the king thought in the mind. Today I will not have sex with her. This is the wisdom from the mantar. I will make her really high on drugs and lie her down on the bed and will run away saving my religion. I will give her 60 coins before going. 42.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: What did the king mean by not today? King was planning to indulge in sexual activity some other time? What were the 60 coins going to be given for? Was the prostitute a great preacher of Gurmat? Did she invent a special device to help people succeed in day to day activities? Does it mean it is good to give prostitutes money and make them happy? How low are the Panth enemies going to go to promote this garbage? Can these people ever be called Sikhs?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]She does not understand love. She only cares about money. Are scorpions, snakes and prostitutes ever friends of anyone? 43.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Increasing pleasure, the king made her drink a lot of liquor and to run away, he made her lofty and got her to sleep on the bed. 44.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The king fed her liquor with his own hands and through this act, drugged her up and made her sleep on the bed. 45.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So Guru Sahib filled glasses of liquor with his own hands and got her to drink it with his own hands? Can anyone ever think of Guru Sahib filling glasses of liquor and putting them to the mouth of a woman? Is this Gurmat?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]King filled glasses and fed her with his hands. He showed a lot of love towards the prostitute. When she got high and went to sleep, the king placed 60 coins there and ran away. 46.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]If a woman loves you, do not love her. If she becomes intoxicated in you sweetness, do not ruin yourself in her sweetness. If you can not understand the feelings of a woman, make sure she doesn’t know the thought of your heart. 47.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Why are the same lines being repeated again and again? It seems like the writer was also under influence of drugs while composing this garbage. When he says not to love woman, which woman is he talking about? Does it include the wife? Is it doesn’t then why isn’t it made clear? If it does include the wife, then how can 2 bodies function as one if there is no trust? Is this Gurmat philosophy?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Making the woman unconscious (with drugs) and giving her 60 coins, the king ran away. He reached home and no one saw him coming. 48.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: So the king did indeed run away? If no one saw him coming home, then how did the writer know? The writer is none other than poet Raam. Is poet Raam the Guru of these chariter promoters? Those who do accept that these are writings of poets and say these are accepted writings, do they even know what Gurmat is? Also, who accepted these writings? Is mahant narainu and company or is it is children of narainu (also known as modern mahants)? So if someone wanted to make money, just act as a prostitute and try to lure Guru of Sikhs. Those who sell their souls to RSS are no better than prostitutes like Shujeeya.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Arill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Then the king came home and made a vow that he saved his faith this time with some good tricks. He vowed that he would now spread the greatness of his God throughout many countries and states. He also vowed not to look at other women. 49.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Does this verse mean Guru Sahib wasn’t telling people about God or spreading greatness of God before? Does this mean Guru Sahib used to check out women before this incidence? How low are the chariter promoters going to get? How far will they go to ruin the image of great Guru Sahib? Is there no shame or religious conduct left? [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Dohra[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The lesson from that day is in my heart. Since that day, I have not been looking at other women. 50.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][COLOR=navy]Investigation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=navy]: Once again, does this mean Guru Sahib used to look at women in a sexual way before this incidence? How low are the promoters of such garbage going to go? D they fear God or Guru? Do they have no shame insulting Guru who sacrificed everything for them? Do they have no shame defaming the Guru, due to whom they have huge bellies and make a living? How far will they go to ruin the image of great Guru Sahib? Is there no shame or religious conduct left? Will anyone take action? If you care and love Guru, then spread this article to everyone you know. Otherwise, you can join the chariter promoters and become an enemy of Guru. So it is up to you to decide on which side to take. Which one will you take? Will you spread this article to everyone you know who claims to be a Sikh?[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Some lines such as “sandalwood, wick lamp, rice, flowers and good liquor was brought” are repeated again and again. This shows that the writer wasn’t in the right state of mind when writing these chariters. This turns out to be more of a male chariter rather than a female chariter. Also, not to forget, in the end, the prostitute wins as her motive to collect money was also fulfilled. This is a direct attack towards Guru Gobind Singh Ji. No Sikh of Guru Nanak will tolerate this and can never accept this litter as Gurbani.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Chariter 16 translation and analysis completed![/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Please kindly forgive any mistakes and provide any suggestions.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [RIGHT][RIGHT][COLOR=navy][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Harmanjit Singh[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/RIGHT] [RIGHT][COLOR=navy][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][EMAIL="mannharm66@hotmail.com"]mannharm66@hotmail.com[/EMAIL][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/RIGHT][/RIGHT] [/QUOTE]
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